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Sith Wars plus more random things
- http://web.archive.org/web/20250117202749/https://www.nhl.com/bluejackets/news/blue-jackets-star-wars-night-january-25Official star wars art (acme archvies
- Forum:TC:Unidentified Human agent (mara jade)
- Sith Wars
5000 bsw4 "An era of great conflict against the Jedi begins, including the battle of Malachore" |
- Legends tenuous connections
- Garm Bel Iblis: "[[{{{child|}}}]]" — Star Wars Encyclopedia
- Zonama Sekot: Where in the Galaxy Are the Worlds of Rogue One?
- Legends media
- Short Stories/FFG/Unlicensed
- Klikklak
- Model 201 mortar system
- M-300 hunting blaster
- Damask Holdings building the Plasma Refinery Complex in 65 BBY was including in Nexus of Power, and then Star Wars: Timelines
- "Wellspring of Life" first used in Nexus of Power repeated in other sources (The Star Wars Archives: Episodes I–III, 1999–2005 at least)
- Cosinga-class Heavy Corvette name first used in Star Wars: Build the Millennium Falcon, reused in Star Wars: Dawn of Rebellion: The Visual Guide
- Jewel of Yavin
- Veiled Sorority
- HT-77 Cold Assault Armor
- Etaan crystal
- Bleeding rock
ISD
Guns
User:ThrawnChiss7/armament
octuple
- Canon image, blurry
- Canon images, imperial i
- File:Octuplebatteries.jpg
- four guns, cleary pointing out.
- Chimaera Expansion Pack
- attack on lothal (look closely)
- two disctict turrets
single
Tower
- "The outward appearance of the Imperial II is nearly indistinguishable from the Imperial I; however, closer inspection reveals the differences The Imperial II features a communications tower between the two deflector domes on the command tower, where the
Imperial I has a tractor beam targeting array." (Starships and Speeders pg. 136)
- Apparently Star Wars Starships & Vehicles 4 calls the Tyrant and Imperial II
Engines
- Tyrant comparison
- Devastator flaps,
LEGO Ultimate Collector's Series (Set: 75252 Imperial Star Destroyer) uses flaps - Devastator, no flaps
- File:Attack on Mako-Ta begins.jpg some ISDs with flaps, some without.
- ISD's with no flaps
X (X-class)
- Sovereign (Sovereign-class)
- Subjugator (Subjugator-class)
- Executor (Executor-class)
- Maelstrom (Maelstrom-class)
- Interdictor (Interdictor-class)
- Immobilizer (Immobilizer 418 cruiser)
- Eclipse (Eclipse-class)
- Endurance (Endurance-class)
- Viscount (Viscount-class)
- Aramadia (Aramadia-class)
- Allegiance (Allegiance-class)
- Assertor (Assertor-class)
Chemistry
Canon is better than legends
Identification
- Canonhaus/Unidentified Imperial captain (asteroid victim)
- Ultimatum/Unidentified Imperial II-class Star Destroyer (asteroid collision)
- Pateesa/Jabba's Rancor
- Toos/Unidentified Imperial (Death Star)
- XJ9-CS14/None
- Sy-O/None
- Omi/Unidentified Dianoga
- Fake Wedge
- Wanten/Unidentified head-bumping stormtrooper
- Eightyem
- Merj/Morseerian homeworld
- Buzza/Chirpa's father
- Invasion of Utapau/None
- Invasion of Christophsis/None
- Invasion of Ryloth/None
- Invasion of Onderon/None
- Capture of Lola Sayu/None
Content
Names
- Sheev Palpatine
- Landonis Balthazar Calrissian
- Bossk'wassak'Cradossk
- Leia Skywalker Organa Solo
- Walex Cantwell Blissex I
- Tarr Kligson
Pictures
- Mitth'ras'safis (for a while)
- Gilad Pellaeon
- Leida Mothma
Legends is better than Canon
- (One-Arm/Unidentified wampa/Legends)/Unidentified wampa
- King of the Dragonsnakes/Unidentified dragonsnake
- Unidentified EG-6 power droid (Tatooine)/None
Major continuity disputes
Legends
- battle of hoth/legends (see below)
- Red Sky, Blue Flame
- Executor/Legends
- Clone Wars/Legends
Canon
- Practice Makes Perfect (episode)
- Ahsoka (novel) and totj, and cws7
- Aftermath (episode) and the Kanan comics
Random stuff
- User:ThrawnChiss7/Earth references
- User:ThrawnChiss7/magic
- "Although enlisted, non-clone pilots fly in some squadrons, Clone Flight Squad Seven consisted only of Jango Fett-clones" (BMF Sff36)
Ranks
- User:Vitus Infinitus/Ranks
- User:Exus Magnus/Rank plaques
- "and displayed on his uniform tunic the rank insignia plaque of a rear admiral." (Tarkin
Names
- trouble?? "is my middle name" (The High Republic: The Battle of Jedha)
- "last name" is mentioned in a The High Republic novel (I forget which one)
Canonized wookieepdia stuff
Mandalorian stuff
- Star Wars: Card Trader No set defined! after the Mandalorian civil war (Clone Wars), "the peace did not last long"
Tristan Wren in the Databank (backup link) tristan blamed sabine for her role in Madalores "fall" to the Empire.- "Kryze ran Mandalore a short while"
- the planet "fell to the Galactic Empire"
- important 20230311172702
Rank stuff
| Rank | Unit |
| High Admiral (usually Moff)[1] | Sector Group |
| Fleet Admiral[1][2] | Fleet (400 ships)[3] |
| Systems admiral (given the title Commodore)[3] | Systems Force(multiple squadrons, typically 90 ships.[3] Largely theoretical |
| Admiral[3] (typically called commander) | Squadron (multiple lines, 4-16 ships. Typically force in one star system.)[3] |
| Captain of the Line (Captain)[3] (Senior Captain)[1] | Line (usually 4, up to 20)[3] |
| Captain (always wears insignia of Sn. Cap.)[1] | Command (single starship)[2] |
Star Wars: Imperial Handbook: A Commander's Guide incorrectly states that a Admiral/Commodore commanded a fleet, when both Warfare and Imperial Sourcebook (Second Edition) state that a fleet admiral did. Per Death Star, the position of Sector admiral existed. It is presubable just another name for High Admiral. Warfare states that Fleet ADmirals always used in insignia of a full admiral. Becuase the diagram and Imperial Handbook contradict this, this information is treated as inacurate, and the diagram presented in Warfare is treated as the correct verson. The rank of Fleet Captain and Executive Captain was also used. Same as Flag Captain? System Sub-Commander, Fleet Sergeant
Imperial army
Cororal, Lieutenat, Captain, Major, Lieutenant Colonel, High Colonel, Major General, General, marshal (Surface Marshal?), (also Grand General and High General.) Second Lieutenant/Legends?
Unknown ranks
| Image | Rank | Examples | Branch |
[1] |
Lieutenant Commander | ardan, Villian Dance | Imperial Navy, bridge crew, Imperial Starfighter corps (Dance) |
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Lieutenant Commander | Gins Darone | Imperial Army? |
| File:First Lieutenant.jpg | First Lieutenant | - | Imperial Army? |
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Brigadier | Nevar | Imperial Army |
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Grand General | Malcor Brashin | Imperial Army |
Pallaeon
| Image | Date | |
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19 ABY | |
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19 ABY | |
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19 ABY | |
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early Yuuzhan Vong War c.25 or 26 ABY | |
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?, presumably late | |
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28 ABY | |
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28 ABY | |
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?, presumably late | |
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?, presumably late | |
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?, presumably late, 5 or 6 over 5 or 6 |
Grand Admirals
| Image | Character | |
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Demetrius Zaarin | |
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Thrawn | |
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Thrawn | |
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Thrawn |
here and here he as no epaulets, as well as the comics
Supreme Commander and imperial succession
- "In disgust, she [Daala] murdered most of the warlords, then consolidated command over the remaining Imperial military." (Daal cswe)
- "she murdered the thirteen strongest warlords and unified their military forces under her control"
- "Elsewhere, Admiral Daala ruthlessly wipes out a coterie of squabbling Imperial warlords in a single strike and assumes control of the Empire."
- "her defeat at Yavin 4 eleveted Pelleaon to the rank of admiral, and gave him supreme control over all Imperial military forces". (NEGTC)
- "She relinquished full command of all imperial force to Pelleaon". (NEC)
- "six months after Daala relinquished her command" (EC)
- "Daala was defeated, and Pellaeon speed in to fill the power vacuum. As supreme commander of the remaining Imperial forces" Pellaeon databank. The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, Vol. III, p. 17-18 ("Pellaeon, Gilad") says the same, but "Supreme Commander of the remaining Imperial forces"
- "Pellaeon filled her position" (TEA)... Pellaeon data
- "Pellaeon decided to approach the Imperial Rim factions, ... The Moffs agreed, makin Pellaeon the Imperial military's Supreme Commander" (TEGTW 211)
- "The moffs of the former Imperial fortress worlds threw support behind their new commander" (EC)
- "Pellaeon eventually suceeded Thrawn as fleet commander" (NEGTC)
- "The Imperial Moffs couldn't help ceded control to the Emporor's last Grand Admiral" (NEGTC)
- "Admiral Thrawn quickly took control of the Imperial fleet" (EGTC)
- [becuase of Thrawn's military achievments] "Thrawn was effectively handed the reigns of the Empire" (NEC)
- "The mainline Imperial forces under Pellaeon" fought with the Imperial Coalition. (NEC)
- "Military Executor Sedriss commanded all the forces of the ressurected Empire, from the largest World Devastotor to the lowliest stormtrooper" (NEGTC)
- Despoilers 2 says that Ennix Devian, "who laid claim to Vader's old title of Supreme Commander of the Imperial Forces".
- "Jax made Wessel his right-hand man, placing him in charge of military operations" The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, Vol. III, p. 327 ("Wessel, General Redd")}}
Imperial remnant
- GIR is "the Imperial remnant"
- "Remnant Empire" - Star Wars: Card Trader No set defined!
- "remnant Imperial" -
Star Wars: The Mandalorian — "The Pirate" - "Nevarro was home to an Imperial Remnant" Nevarro databank
- "Gideon is smart and relentless as he leads a portion of the Imperial Remnant." Star Wars: Character Encyclopedia, Updated and Expanded Edition
- GIR is "an Imperial Remnant"
- Moff Gideon's Imperial Remnant
- 2023 Topps Star Wars lists Penn Pershing and Gideon's affiliation as "Imperial Remnant", but the capitalization cannot be determined.
TC's
WP:Dict
- See Forum:SH:Re-evaluating WP:DICT and its applications, Forum:SH:Food in relation to WP:DICT
- Forum:TC:Neon (Keep)
- Forum:TC:Weapon (Keep)
- Forum:TC:String cheese (Keep)
- Forum:TC:Couch (Keep, based on floating couches)
- Forum:TC:Fever (Delete)
- Forum:TC:Various breads (NC)
- Forum:TC:City-state/Canon (NC)
- Forum:TC:Stone/Legends (Keep)
- Forum:TC:Urination (Keep, despite that fact that purple urine exists) Urine?
- Forum:TC:Pottery (Delete)
- Forum:TC:Cardboard (Delete)
- Forum:TC:Steeple-chase (Delete)
- Forum:TC:Protractor (Delete)
- Forum:TC:Toothpick (Delete)
- Forum:TC:Nation (Delete)
- Forum:TC:Field (Delete)
- Forum:TC:Warmer (Delete)
- Forum:TC:Shirt (Delete)
Measurement
Random
- X's relative is notablle (per Forum:TC:Sconto's wife) but not when used in an insulting manner (Forum:TC:Azmorigan's wife)
Thrawn Stuff
"Keeper of the Holocron" — Star Wars Insider 178 p. 87 "we can still bring back great things like Thrawn of the TIE defender" "the original Thrawn trilogy"
Prelude to Rebellion
- The term "Alliance" is used in 5 BBY (per the Rebel Files and I think Andor).
- "Cassian Andor was recruited into the Rebel Alliance by Luthen Rael" 2023 Star Wars Galaxy Star Wars Celebration Europe 2023 Card: Cassian Andor (backup link)
- "secretly working with allies such as Luthen Rael and Bail Organa to coordinate the Rebellion" 2023 Topps Finest Star Wars Card: Mon Mothma (backup link)
Andor
TarkinThrawnRebels
Other |
List of dumb articles for sources
In-universe counterparts
Canon
- Wookieepedia:Appearances/Canon/Documents
- a collection of maps in the Graf Archive/Star Wars: Galactic Atlas
- The Rebel Files/Star Wars: The Rebel Files
- Smuggler's Guide/Star Wars: Smuggler's Guide
- A History of Persuasive Art in the Galaxy/Star Wars Propaganda: A History of Persuasive Art in the Galaxy
- Galactic Explorer's Guide/Star Wars: The Galactic Explorer's Guide
- Traveler's Guide to Batuu/Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge: Traveler's Guide to Batuu
- Poe Dameron's flight log/Poe Dameron: Flight Log (and possibly all of Category:Replica journals)
- Secrets of the Jedi/Star Wars: The Secrets of the Jedi
- The Secrets of the Bounty Hunters/Star Wars: The Secrets of the Bounty Hunters
- The Secrets of the Sith/Star Wars: The Secrets of the Sith
Legends
- Wookieepedia:Appearances/Legends/Documents
- Book of Sith/Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side
- The Essential Chronology/The Essential Chronology
- The New Essential Chronology/The New Essential Chronology
- The New Essential Guide to Alien Species/The New Essential Guide to Alien Species
- The Journal of Master Gnost-Dural/The Journal of Master Gnost-Dural
- Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force/Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force
- Wanted by Cracken/Wanted by Cracken
- HoloNet News/HoloNet News
- A LONG TIME AGO.../
Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Warfare Author's Cut, Part 2 — Ancient Coruscant on StarWars.com (article) (backup link) - "The Written Word: A Brief Introduction to the Writing Systems of Galactic Basic"/"The Written Word"
- Industry, Honor, Savagery: Shaping the Mandalorian Soul, Dha Werda Verda, letter from Ahsoka Tano, Journals of Kol Skywalker, the memoirs of Isila Drutch, Oral History of the New Republic, a document about Han Solo's military career, Ackbar: Wartime Correspondence, volume 8, Portraits of the Galactic Civil War, Mitth'raw'nuruodo Reconsidered: A Patriot's Perspective, a partial audio reconstructiona, a scandoc, Portraits in Late Galactic History, Wookiee World Horror Witness!, /The Essential Guide to Warfare
Canon or Legends and why?
Precedent
- One, four-paragraph section: Felinx
- User:UberSoldat93/Precedent
- User:Tommy-Macaroni/Objections
- Wookieepedia:Editing tutorial: Master
- You can use {{SWMW}} (per 5th Fleet Security)
- You can source Dictionary.com (per Spaghetti)
- You can source to a non-Star Wars film (per Executor/Legends) or book (per Veré)
- An image is a field (per Zebitrope sector)
- Unlicensed sources don't require tags in the "sources" section (per Zebitrope sector)
- "On X" means "X is a terrestrial astronomical object (per Athio III) BMF 87 secrets of spaceflight "the status of his operation on Bespin".
- Mentions in IU documents in name don't require noting in the body, only sources. (Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Rothana, Legions of Lettow)
- Per Gorin, documents don't need to be in "Legacy".
- Images aren't needed for a GA: Parmel sector, Kol Atorn, Felinx
- Born and homeward are different. per Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Barion Raner
Useful
Sector
- *[[Western Reaches/Legends|Western Reaches]]<ref name="TEAOC">{{SW|url=news/star-wars-the-essential-atlas-online-companion|text=''Star Wars: The Essential Atlas'' Online Companion|int=Star Wars: The Essential Atlas Online Companion}}</ref>
- *[[Western Reaches/Legends|Western Reaches]]<ref name="Western Reaches">{{SW|url=news/essential-atlas-extra-sectors-of-the-mid-rim|text=Essential Atlas Extra: Sectors of the Mid Rim}} places the Mektrun [[Sector/Legends|sector]] in what ''[[The Essential Atlas]]'' identifies as the [[Western Reaches/Legends|Western Reaches]].</ref>
- *[[Western Reaches/Legends|Western Reaches]]<ref name="Western Reaches">{{SW|url=news/essential-atlas-outer-rim-sectors|text=The Essential Atlas Extra: Outer Rim Sectors}} places the Dalicron [[Sector/Legends|sector]] in what ''[[The Essential Atlas]]'' identifies as the [[Western Reaches/Legends|Western Reaches]].</ref>
- *[[Western Reaches/Legends|Western Reaches]]<ref name="Western Reaches">{{SW|url=news/essential-atlas-extra-expansion-region|text=Essential Atlas Extra: Expansion Region}} places the Vulcusion [[Sector/Legends|sector]] in what ''[[The Essential Atlas]]'' identifies as the [[Western Reaches/Legends|Western Reaches]].</ref>
System
- *[[Western Reaches/Legends|Western Reaches]]<ref name="Western Reaches">{{SW|url=news/essential-atlas-extra-sectors-of-the-mid-rim|text=Essential Atlas Extra: Sectors of the Mid Rim}} places the entirety of the [[Senex sector/Legends|Senex sector]] in what ''[[The Essential Atlas]]'' identifies as the [[Western Reaches/Legends|Western Reaches]]. As the Adoris [[Star system/Legends|system]] was located in the Senex [[Sector/Legends|sector]] per {{SW|url=news/star-wars-the-essential-atlas-online-companion|text=''Star Wars: The Essential Atlas'' Online Companion|int=Star Wars: The Essential Atlas Online Companion}}, it must have also been located in the Western Reaches.</ref>
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The Battle of Hoth (I refers to Toprawa and Ralltiir)
GR-75 medium transports like to lift off two, or even three, at a time. In this article, I will attempt to outline in as meticulous detail as possible the convoluted continuity involving the three Rebel Alliance GR-75 medium transports Thon's Orchard, Dutyfree, and Bright Hope in regards to their evacuation from the planet Hoth during the Battle of Hoth. I do this with the purpose of collating all information in a single place for efficient reference and raising awareness of this inconsistent continuity in the hopes it may all one day be officially reconciled. At the conclusion of this article, I will present a logical and well-reasoned explanation for how all of this information may be reconciled for official Wookieepedia documentation purposes using only the canon sources available to us. Note that this article focuses primarily on the evolution of the Thon's Orchard and the Dutyfree, with the Bright Hope's details mentioned last. I would be remiss without giving due credit to my colleague Cavalier One, who helped me tremendously in figuring all of this out. The problemMore than a half-dozen sources are wildly inconsistent regarding which Rebel pilots escort and pilot the transports Thon's Orchard, Dutyfree, and Bright Hope during the evacuation of Echo Base in the Battle of Hoth. HistoryThe Empire Strikes Back radio drama and script
Continuity: Brian Daley's The Empire Strikes Back radio drama (1983) first detailed a scene in which Luke Skywalker and Wedge Antilles escort an unnamed Rebel transport, piloted by a character named Tarrin, away from Hoth at the end of the battle. Wedge notes to Luke that they are the "last evacuation group." As they depart Hoth, Tarrin worryingly mentions over comlink that he's picked up two Star Destroyers on his scopes, but Wedge assures him that the Imperial ships are too far off to give them trouble. Wedge and Tarrin then safely make the jump to hyperspace while Luke goes off to Dagobah. Interestingly, the radio drama's original script (first published in 1995 as The Empire Strikes Back: The National Public Radio Dramatization) initially called for this scene to be more dramatic. Luke, Wedge, and Tarrin's transport encounter a single Star Destroyer directly in their flight path. Luke orders Wedge to pull up next to him underneath the transport so that they will appear as a single blip on the Imperials' radar. Once they're close enough, Luke orders Wedge to fire a proton torpedo at the Star Destroyer, a surprise attack that causes enough damage to the Imperial ship to allow Wedge and Tarrin to escape into hyperspace. Luke then goes off to Dagobah. Analysis: Although the radio drama and the script contradict each other, we can safely assume that the dramatization itself supersedes the script in continuity, much like a film supersedes its novelization. Galaxy Guide 3: The Empire Strikes Back, first edition
Continuity: Michael Stern's Galaxy Guide 3: The Empire Strikes Back (1989) was the next source to detail a similar scene. The short narrative Running the Gauntlet, presented as "an excerpt from the personal memoirs of Wedge Antilles," tells of how pilots Wedge, Hobbie, and Janson escort an unnamed transport piloted by an unnamed captain past the Imperial blockade using a tactic clearly inspired from The Empire Strikes Back radio drama script. In this story, Wedge pilots an X-wing while Hobbie pilots a Y-wing with Janson as his rear gunner. Their two-seated Y-wing corresponds to the BTL-S3 Y-wing model. With the transport and its fighter escort quickly approaching a Star Destroyer, which sits directly in their escape lane, Wedge realizes he needs a radical tactic, called the Tallon split, to get them through. He pulls his X-wing directly in behind Hobbie's Y-wing so that the Star Destroyer's targeting computer will register them as one vessel. At the right moment, the fighters break apart, too quickly for the Star Destroyer to track both ships simultaneously. This leaves a window for Wedge to knock out one of the Star Destroyer's sensor globes, allowing the transport to escape safely into hyperspace. As Wedge enters hyperspace himself, he thinks he hears Luke's voice saying, "Good shooting, Wedge." Running the Gauntlet was later reprinted verbatim in The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook (1993). Analysis: By this point, in 1989, we already have two major continuity errors:
The Essential Guide to Characters
Continuity: Andy Mangels' The Essential Guide to Characters (1995) makes the first attempt to reconcile these conflicting sources. In the book's "Wedge Antilles" section, Mangels explains how Wedge and Janson help escort one of the last transports, piloted by Tarrin, from Echo Base: Using the Tallon split, in conjunction with a surprise attack from Luke underneath the transport, all parties escape the fire from an orbiting Star Destroyer. In this version, Luke and Wedge pilot X-wings, while Janson pilots a Y-wing. But this contradicts Galaxy Guide 3, which states that Janson rides as the gunner in the Y-wing piloted by Hobbie. Analysis: In attempting to reconcile these sources, Mangels opted to combine details from The Empire Strikes Back radio drama script (which was published a few months prior to his own book) with the story Running the Gauntlet from Galaxy Guide 3. This served to identify Tarrin as the unnamed transport captain from Running the Gauntlet. But at the same time, it replaced Hobbie with Janson as the Y-wing pilot. By this point, we may begin to consider whether to treat the radio drama's version as being overridden in light of The Essential Guide to Characters. Galaxy Guide 3: The Empire Strikes Back, Second Edition
Continuity: Pablo Hidalgo performed a major expansion/rewrite on Michael Stern's original Galaxy Guide 3 text with the release of Galaxy Guide 3: The Empire Strikes Back, Second Edition (1996). The second edition reprinted Running the Gauntlet but notably altered the text to identify the transport pilot as Tarrin Datch and the transport as the Thon's Orchard. Hidalgo describes the Thon's Orchard as "the ship that was to be Leia Organa's transport" from The Empire Strikes Back and also as "one of the last transports off Hoth. With Wedge and Hobbie flying escort, Tarrin escaped to rejoin the fleet at the rendezvous point." He also notes that Rebel historian Voren Na'al escapes Hoth aboard the Thon's Orchard. Analysis: Hidalgo's Galaxy Guide 3 was the first source to identify Tarrin's transport by name but reinforces Wedge and Hobbie/Janson flying escort without mentioning Luke. Nevertheless, we can still reconcile Hidalgo's text with The Essential Guide to Characters to say, at this point, that Luke, Wedge, and Hobbie/Janson fly escort for Tarrin's ship, the Thon's Orchard. As a side inconsistency, M. Shayne Bell's short story Of Possible Futures: The Tale of Zuckuss and 4-LOM from Tales of the Bounty Hunters, published five months after Hidalgo's Galaxy Guide 3, changed Leia's transport to the Bright Hope, the final transport to leave Hoth, which is destroyed during its blockade run. The Bright Hope has remained Leia's would-be transport ever since. X-Wing: Isard's Revenge
Continuity: Michael Stackpole's novel X-Wing: Isard's Revenge (1999) threw a monolithic-sized monkey wrench into this whole thing. Isard's Revenge stands as the origin of the primary inconsistency between the Thon's Orchard and the Dutyfree. In Stackpole's story, Wedge runs into one Areta Bell years after the Battle of Hoth and recognizes her from the battle:
Analysis: Why Stackpole changed Tarrin's transport from Thon's Orchard to the Dutyfree is anyone's guess, but it calls everything into question. At this point, nothing regarding any of the backstory of Tarrin's transport is clear. Is the Thon's Orchard now the Dutyfree? Are they separate ships? If nothing else, it reinforces that Luke and Wedge fly escort together. Inside the Worlds of Star Wars Trilogy
Continuity: James Luceno's giant reference book Inside the Worlds of Star Wars Trilogy (2004) does the tremendous service of partially clearing up the identities of these three transports. Nothing since The Essential Guide to Characters has done more to reconcile the conflicting sources. In a fold-out Echo Base cross-section map, Luceno's book illustrates four transports stationed in Echo Base at the beginning of the Battle of Hoth, three of which are identified as Thon's Orchard, Dutyfree, and Bright Hope. Call-outs on the map identify the Dutyfree as "escorted offplanet by Luke Skywalker and Wedge Antilles" and the Bright Hope as the "last transport to leave the base," reinforcing both Isard's Revenge and Tales of the Bounty Hunters, respectively. The book also states that "the final transport, Bright Hope, lifts off with the aid of starfighter pilots Wedge, Hobbie, and Janson." This caption accompanies a film still from The Empire Strikes Back, identifying the transport in that shot as the Bright Hope. The Inside the Worlds Echo Base map was later reprinted verbatim in Star Wars: Complete Locations (2005). Analysis: Luceno definitively establishes all three of these transports as separate ships, despite the increasing continuity inconsistencies surrounding them. Although Luceno reinforced Stackpole's story by stating that Luke and Wedge escort the Dutyfree, Inside the Worlds makes no mention of Tarrin or gives any indication as to what goes on with the Thon's Orchard. Another huge clue not to be overlooked here is the positioning of the three transports within the hangar: Of the thirty GR-75 medium transports within Echo Base, these three are clearly positioned furthest away from the South Ridge evacuation launch site, meaning they are ostensibly the last three transports to evacuate. This is a crucial detail that will ultimately help solve this mess. Based on their order of positioning (the Bright Hope, in particular), we can safely deduce their order of departure: Thon's Orchard, Dutyfree, and, finally, Bright Hope. Inside the Worlds is also the first source to directly state that Wedge escorts two transports: the Dutyfree and the Bright Hope. This opens up a floodgate of possibilities for reconciling all of these sources. The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
Continuity: Bob Vitas' The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia reinforces Stackpole's version of events from Isard's Revenge. Under the book's character entry for Tarrin Datch, CSWE states that Tarrin piloted the Dutyfree, "one of the last Rebel transports to flee Hoth." The book makes no mention of the Thon's Orchard anywhere. Analysis: CSWE does little more than to repeat the Isard's Revenge information without daring to tackle the Thon's Orchard situation. It does, however, effectively confirm that the Dutyfree's positioning in Echo Base from Inside the Worlds corresponds to its order of departure. Rogues Gallery: Clearance for Immediate Launch, Star Wars Insider 146
Continuity: The 2013 Rogues Gallery department from Star Wars Insider 146 is, to date, the most recent source to provide insight into this continuity mess. Under the character heading for Tarrin Datch, Rogues Gallery states that "Datch was able to pilot the GR-75 Medium Transport, Thon's Orchard, past the Imperial blockade." Analysis: So, we've come full circle. After nearly fifteen years, we're back to Tarrin piloting his originally-named transport from Hidalgo's Galaxy Guide 3, the Thon's Orchard. The most important element of this Insider article to take into consideration is that its information was directly approved by Leland Chee, Keeper of the Holocron for the Lucasfilm Story Group, which determines all Star Wars canon. We can safely take that to mean that Tarrin does not pilot the Dutyfree, and that that particular information from Isard's Revenge and The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia is in error. But this Insider article does not clear up the nagging mess of which pilots escort which transports. Fortunately, we can piece that together for ourselves with a host of indirect supplementary sources. ResolutionThe answer Transport continuity problems? Don't worry, fellas. I got this. In reconciling sources, we do the best job we can to find a logical way to make every piece of the puzzle fit. That means piecing together disjointed bits of continuity that don't necessarily contradict each other to paint the overall picture of a scene. Let's start with what we do know...
Given that we now know that Tarrin pilots the Thon's Orchard, according to the highest authority on LFL canon, we can safely make the claim that the original reconciled events of Galaxy Guide 3/The Essential Guide to Characters are now canon. So, with that as our starting point, we begin to look at how we can piece together everything that has come since then. This is where we start analyzing secondary sources to see what supports our reconciling efforts... The Bright Hope, the last transport to leave, was escorted by six X-wing fighters, according to Tales of the Bounty Hunters. The Official Star Wars Fact File 12 confirms that these six X-wing pilots were snowspeeder pilots fresh from the battle. So, who were these six pilots? They were, at least, Tarn Mison, according to the Star Wars Customizable Card Game; Wedge, according to Inside the Worlds; Hobbie, according to Inside the Worlds; and Janson, according to Inside the Worlds. However, a problem arises with Hobbie and Janson, because it's not clear what fighter type they were in. Considering our Galaxy Guide 3/The Essential Guide to Characters reconcile, Hobbie and Janson rode in the same Y-wing, which would not count toward the six X-wings. But Inside the Worlds strongly infers that they piloted individual X-wings while escorting the Bright Hope. This next piece of evidence is the linchpin that makes this whole thing work. In the level "Battlefield Hoth" from the video game Star Wars: Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike (2003), the player, as Luke, must escort the last three transports from the base as they leave Hoth. These three transports leave at the same time. The game's official strategy guide also confirms these are the last three ships: "The last three transports are attempting to leave Echo Base, but large squads of TIEs are making it difficult." We know who the last three transports are, don't we? Thanks to James Luceno and Inside the Worlds, they are the Thon's Orchard, the Dutyfree, and the Bright Hope. That means Luke (and other NPC X-wings from that level) escorts all three of them. With this understanding, it's now a simple matter of combining everything we already know: Luke and Wedge fly escort together, according to Inside the Worlds and Isard's Revenge. Wedge, Hobbie, and Janson fly escort together, according to Inside the Worlds. And considering our Galaxy Guide 3/The Essential Guide to Characters reconcile, they all fly escort together anyway. That means all pilots and all transports leave at the same time. So, Luke, Wedge, Hobbie, Janson, and Tarn Mison must therefore all escort the Thon's Orchard, Dutyfree, and Bright Hope together at once. This fits because: a) We know that at some point late in the battle, the transports started lifting off two at a time. This is directly supported by film dialogue between General Carlist Rieekan and Leia (see the header quote at top of this article). b) The Bright Hope lifts off with other transports as a group, according to the Bright Hope card from Star Wars: The Card Game. c) Hobbie and Janson, in their two-seated Y-wing, escort multiple transports, according to Shadows of the Empire Sourcebook. And d) The Rogue Squadron III level only has the player escort the transports up to a certain point in Hoth's atmosphere before the level ends. You don't actually reach space, where the Imperial blockade awaits, at which point Galaxy Guide 3/The Essential Guide to Characters, Tales of the Bounty Hunters, and Isard's Revenge may take over with their respective details for each transport: The Thon's Orchard and Dutyfree escape, while the Bright Hope is destroyed. Loose endsBut we're still left with the nagging question of what ship(s) do Hobbie and Janson pilot? Two X-wings or a single Y-wing? This picture holds many clues. This is the aforementioned film still that Inside the Worlds uses to identify the Bright Hope lifting off, with the accompanying caption stating that Wedge, Hobbie, and Janson fly escort for it. In this picture, we see two X-wings already lifting off to escort the Bright Hope, while Luke and Wedge, who wishes Luke good luck in this scene, have yet to take off in their X-wings. In addition, we see at least four other straggling pilots still on the ground. That means, counting Luke and Wedge, there at least six pilots in total who have not yet taken off in this scene. Remember that six X-wing fighters escort the Bright Hope, so this picture leaves open the possibility that six X-wings escort the Bright Hope while Hobbie and Janson still fly their two-seated Y-wing. And then we're left with the question of how to explain the in-universe inconsistency in Isard's Revenge? After all, the conversation between Wedge and Areta Bell tells us that she served as navigator on Tarrin's transport, the Dutyfree. But we now know that Tarrin piloted the Thon's Orchard. Recall that Running the Gauntlet from Galaxy Guide 3, which we can now safely treat as the canon version of events for Tarrin's transport, was "an excerpt from the personal memoirs of Wedge Antilles." Galaxy Guide 3 is written as in-universe documentation by Rebel historian Voren Na'al, and the book states that he wrote it while still at the Rebel rendezvous point, which corresponds to the immediate aftermath of the Battle of Hoth. It's unlikely that Wedge would have gotten the facts wrong in his personal memoirs so close to the actual events. Whereas Isard's Revenge is set in 9 ABY, six years after the Battle of Hoth, so it's entirely possible that war-weary Wedge is simply misremembering the exact details of the blockade run. And perhaps Bell, who is clearly relishing the fact that famed fellow Corellian Wedge Antilles even remembers her, is simply being polite by not correcting him. To add one final continuity inconsistency to the mix, we have Ryder Windham's The Empire Strikes Back junior novelization (2004). Windham has Luke leaving Hoth without escorting any transports or running into any Imperial ships: "But as he entered space, he was surprised not to see even one of the Star Destroyers that had brought the Imperial soldiers to Hoth. He supposed it was possible the destroyers were on the other side of Hoth, beyond his visual range. And he hoped that the Rebel transports [...] had also escaped Hoth without difficulty." Given the proliferation of sources contradicting this, we just have to treat Windham's junior novel as the inconsistency that it is and ignore it. |
Some interesting things
From animation to live action
- Mitth'raw'nuruodo
- Sabine Wren
- Ahsoka Tano
- Garazeb Orrelios
- Hera Syndulla
- C1-10P
- Saw Gerrera
- Hamato Xiono
- Cad Bane
- Sabine Wren
- Ryder Azadi
- Ezra Bridger
From books/comics to live action
- Gilad Pellaeon (Appears in hologram)
- Mitth'raw'nuruodo
- Cobb Vanth
- Brendol Hux (Appears in hologram)
- Leida Mothma
- Perrin Fertha (technically Jobin's father)
- Krrsantan
- Bail Prestor Organa
- Celly Organa
From books/comics/video games to animation
Wookieepedia
- Aeromagnifier: had to be updated the day it passed CAnom
- Hutt's Delight
- Unidentified jungle world (Torch Nebula), added canon mention
- Lotho Minor, passed FA in 2019, was reviewed in 2020, 2021, and 2022.
- "Nihil conflict" was created with that title in January 2022, and the November 2023 novel The High Republic: The Eye of Darkness later identified it as such.
- "Nari's lightsaber" created with that title, Star Wars: Dawn of Rebellion: The Visual Guide later identified it as such.
- Bee: best infobox image
- Csillagok Háborúja: Jedi Visszatér Jedipedia article
- Snowball: 1stp, 1stm, 1st, 1stID, in that order.
Lore
- Mos Pelgo, Loth-cat, Espirion/Legends: first mentioned in canon
- Mapuzo/Legends
- 8 BBY, 92 BBY: empty years
- U5-GG: A canon Lego from a book
- R2-R7: From a Legends Lego set, mentioned in TCSWE
- Neutron star: "Lando 3 (First mentioned, simultaneous with Star Wars: Build the Millennium Falcon 34 Guide to the Galaxy: Types of Stars)"
- Unidentified moon: this is a non-conjectural name
- Unidentified Cyborg (Aduba-3), appeared in 1977's Star Wars (1977) 7, went unreferenced until New Planets, New Perils! in 2018's Star Wars Insider 181.
- Ossi, Electronic interference mast, Jorallan pearl
- Merj/Morseerian homeworld
- File:ReaperStarDestroyer.jpg=Pentastar Alignment/Canon
- Dark Holocron is pictured in Star Wars Jedi Master Magazine 2
- Kir Kanos is pictured here
- File:Battle of Brentaal by Bruno Werneck.jpg=Battle of Brentaal IV/Canon
- File:Plasma Torpedoes.png=BTL-S8 K-wing assault starfighter/Canon
- Untitled Pizzazz Star Wars Story, Part I? what
Interesting 1stIDs=
- Nemet:
Commander Nemet on Star Wars Authentics (backup link archived on May 6, 2020) - Mennis Duren: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - "Rogue Connections" featurette
- Ezra Bridger and Phantom where revealed at the Nuremberg International Toy Fair
- Onyx Cinder: *
LEGO Star Wars 75374 Skeleton Crew Die Onyx Cinder (in German) on Müller (July 29, 2024) (backup link archived on July 29, 2024)
Power
"It has been theorized by the Jedi and Sith alike that the balance between the light and dark sides was actually under a group of discorporate entities -the ones called the Celestials, perhaps- who had merged themselves with the Force thousands of generations earlier, and had continued to guide the fate of the galaxy ever since. In effect, a higher order of intermederies, whose powers where beyond the understanding of mortal beings. But many Sith viewed the notion with disdain, for the theoretical existance of such a group had little bearing on thier goal of making the Force subsevient to the will of an enlighted elite. Only the Sith understood that sentient life was on the verge of a transformative leap; that the manipulation of midi-chlorians- or the overthrow of the Forceful group that supervised them- the divide between organic life and the force could be bridged, and death could be erased from the continuum."[4] QGJ's spirit then reppeared to Yoda, explaining that he had learned of a way to become one with the force, yet still retain his ability in influence the physical world. This teqnique was discovered by a Shaman of the Whills, and Qui-Gon practiced the skill in the years leading up to his death at the Battle of Naboo. Qui-Gon's spirit later explained the teachings of the Whills to Yoda and Obi-wan, to ensure that thehy would be able to help anakin fulfill his destiny as the Chosen One.[5]
Science
CanonThe atom
Relativity
Reactor"magnetic confinement elements"[6] EMS
Misc"temperatures will rise to thousands of degrees"[6] Force field (CVNE) YT1300OWM 1 (C and L)"Such sensors include devices used to collect and analyze data about light, radio, and other electromagnetic emmision; sound, motion, and vibration; gravitational, nuclear, and magnetic fields; heat, pressure, and trace chemicals; and even other sensors." YT1300OWM 2 (C and ?)"Ray shielding, also known as energy shielding, protects against stellar and magnetic radiation." LegendsPlag1"The game was called Collider because players placed bets on the types and spiraling paths of high-energy subatomic particles created as a result of collisions occurring within the accelerator table and the random firings of deviating electromagnets surrounding it. Due to the unpredictable nature of the collisions, the house enjoyed only a small advantage—where the accelerators weren’t rigged—but the Kubaz was overcoming the odds by betting solely on the particle paths rather than the particle categories. With the table accelerator humming to life and the Kubaz sliding some of his chits across the gambling grid, Plagueis stretched out cautiously with the Force, sensing intense concentration on the part of the Kubaz, and then an extraordinary surge of psychic energy. The Kubaz was using the Force—not to steer particles along certain paths but to dazzle the electromagnets and significantly reduce the number of paths the created particles were likely to take" (Plaguies) DS1The Horuz system had been scavenged for raw material; asteroids and comets were being harvested from both the inner and outer belts and broken into components of oxygen, hydrogen, iron, nickel, and other elements; (DS) DS2Flux, gauss, m-particle and graviton shifts? Even with his not-inconsiderable general knowledge, those technical details were but mildly interesting, at best (DS) DS3He knew that hypermatter existed only in hyperspace, that it was composed of tachyonic particles, and that charged tachyons, when constrained by the lower dimensions of realspace, produced near-limitless energy. How this "null-point energy" had become unstable he didn't know. He only knew it had been powerful enough to turn an ISD-II and its crew of thirty-seven thousand people into floating wisps of ionized gas in a microsecond. (DS) DS4"there are enough guns to turn you into subatomic particles" (DS) DS5"Well, let me enlighten you. Beams of coherent particles, such as electron, positrons, and the like, as well as amplified photon emissions, are often focused with large magnetic rings. Let us postulate that one could, in this fash" (DS) DS6There were surgeons who could separate the two and still sleep at night, but Uli was not one of them. And so he found himself standing near the bed of a grizzled old Wookiee construction chief who had been involved in a nasty decompression accident that had required a heart-lung transplant three days past. Despite the best sterile procedures, sometimes patients developed secondary infections, and something like that had apparently happened here. The usual antivirals, antiprions, and antibiotics had been ineffective thus far, and no pathogenic agents had been collected. Nevertheless, the old Wook had a fever, he was coughing, and his blood work showed a strange shift that wasn't bacterial, prional, or viral. The patient had an elevated eosinophil count, hyper to the level of Second-Stage HES. Naturally, Uli had called in more expert help, but the medical specialist had ruled out the usual trans-species suspects-it wasn't kozema, leukemia, asthma, autoimmune disease, or drugs. The only remaining possibilities were some kind of parasitic or protozoal infestation. But the QRI scans were clean, there were no telltale nanocam images, and nothing cultured out. Save for the elevated white cells, there weren't any other real indicators. If this wasn't some previously unknown form of nosocomial infection, the only other possibility seemed to be black magic. (DS) DS7Darth Vader stood on the bridge of his warship, staring out through the forward viewport at the kaleidoscopic chaos of hyperspace. The effect, even moving at the relatively stately speed of a Star Destroyer, was akin to tumbling down an endless tunnel of amorphous, whirling patterns of light-starlight and nebulae smeared into impressionistic blotches by the ship's superluminal speed. He knew that even experienced spacers and navy personnel often hesitated to look out at it. Standard operating procedure was to keep the thick slabs of transparisteel opaqued while traveling through the higher-dimensional universe. There was something profoundly wrong about hyperspace, composed as it was of more than the three spatial and one temporal dimensions that most sentient species were used to. Looking too long into hyperspace promised madness, so the stories went. He had never heard of anyone actually succumbing to "hyper-rapture," as it was called. Nevertheless, the legends persisted. DS8Things looked unremarkable. Stihl was in great shape for a man his age, better than most humans twenty years younger. Myoconduction, brain scan, EEG, MEG, dendrite function were within limits. Afferent/ efferent speeds were slightly better than normal; heart, lungs, kidneys, liver, spleen, pancreas, repro, bowels . . . Uli looked at the blood composition readout. Platelets fine, WBC normal spread, hematocrit, hemoglobin, all normal. Except-His midi-chlorian count was over five thousand per cell. Uli blinked. That was unusual. Normal human range was less than half that. He didn't know a lot about midi-chlorians; nobody did anymore-most of the research on the subject had been done at the Jedi academy by their own healers, and their records were not available for study. |
Lost media
- Netflix AD for Star Wars: The Clone Wars
- Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Decoded
- Category:Legends LEGO comics
Technical manuel
- Lua
- Wookieepedia Help:Templates#External links
- DPL3 Manual
Old date refs
Old dating refs that I though where smart, but have now been simplified or retconned.
- "A World Between Worlds": The epilogue of "Family Reunion – and Farewell" occurs after the end of the Galactic Civil War, which Star Wars: Galactic Atlas dates to 5 ABY, so the epilogue must take place during or after that year. "Wolves and a Door" occurs prior to Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, which Galactic Atlas dates to 0 BBY, so it must take place during or prior to that year. Star Wars: Women of the Galaxy establishes there is a five year gap between "Wolves and a Door" and "Family Reunion – and Farewell"'s epilogue. Therefore, "Wolves and a Door" must take place in 0 BBY. Template:SW4Date As "Family Reunion – and Farewell" features the Liberation of Lothal, it must take place in 0 BBY. Since "A World Between Worlds" takes place in between "Family Reunion – and Farewell" and "Wolves and a Door", it must also take place in 0 BBY.
- "Wings of the Master": According to Star Wars: Scum and Villainy: Case Files on the Galaxy's Most Notorious, in the year 7973 C.R.C., Ketsu Onyo resigned from the Black Sun. It also dates the Battle of Scarif to 7977 C.R.C., four years after Onyo's resignation. Star Wars: Galactic Atlas dates Jyn Erso's mission to steal the plans of the first Death Star, which concluded with the Battle of Scarif, to 0 BBY. Therefore, it can be calculated that 7973 C.R.C. is equal to 4 BBY. Since Onyo states in "Blood Sisters" that she currently works for the Black Sun, that episode must occur by 4 BBY. Additionally, Star Wars: Galactic Atlas dates the Siege of Lothal to 4 BBY. Since "Wings of the Master" occurs after the Siege of Lothal but before the events of "Blood Sisters," it can be concluded that the episode took place in 4 BBY.
- Original version of TruthAndConsequencesDate (The Bad Batch Season 1 ends with the episodes "Return to Kamino" and "Kamino Lost," which feature an attack on Kamino dated to 19 BBY by Star Wars: Dawn of Rebellion: The Visual Guide. Therefore, the first season ends in 19 BBY. The Bad Batch Season 2 episode "Truth and Consequences" features the official formation of the Stormtrooper Corps. According to Dawn of Rebellion: The Visual Guide, that official foundation occurred in 18 BBY, thereby placing "Truth and Consequences" in 18 BBY. The events of "The Clone Conspiracy" directly proceed those of "Truth and Consequences," which places it in 18 BBY as well. As such, The Bad Batch Season 2 episodes up to "The Clone Conspiracy" take place between 19 BBY and 18 BBY.)
- Per the reasoning here, the seventh and eighth episodes of The Bad Batch Season 2, "The Clone Conspiracy" and "Truth and Consequences," can be placed in 18 BBY. The sixth episode of Season 2, "Tribe," also features the Vanguard Axis, which is an offshoot of the Droid Gotra as per Star Wars: Dawn of Rebellion: The Visual Guide. As Star Wars: Timelines places the founding of the Droid Gotra around 18 BBY, and episodes that come after "Tribe" are set in that year, the events of "Tribe" occur around 18 BBY. Additionally, all Season 2 episodes proceeding "Tribe" occur between 19 BBY, which features the end of The Bad Batch Season 1 according to Star Wars: Timelines, and 18 BBY. The Galactic Empire, the formation of which Star Wars: Timelines dates to 19 BBY, sent Mayday's squad to Barton IV over a year prior to the events of the twelfth episode, "The Outpost." As it occurs over a year into the Imperial Era and is set shortly after the events of "Truth and Consequences," the events of "The Outpost" occur around 18 BBY. Following that logic, the ninth through eleventh episodes ("The Crossing" through "Metamorphosis") are also set around 18 BBY because they occur between the events of "Truth and Consequences" and "The Outpost." Finally, all season 2 episodes set after "The Outpost" occur shortly after its events, thereby placing those episodes around 18 BBY as well.
Used templates
Notes and references
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 The Essential Guide to Warfare
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Imperial Sourcebook (Second Edition)
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 Star Wars: Imperial Handbook: A Commander's Guide
- ↑ Darth Plagueis
- ↑ The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, Vol. II, p. 165 ("Jinn, Qui-Gon")
- ↑ 6.00 6.01 6.02 6.03 6.04 6.05 6.06 6.07 6.08 6.09 6.10 6.11 6.12 Star Wars Complete Vehicles, New Edition, text probably reprinted
- ↑ Star Wars Complete Vehicles, New Edition
- ↑ 8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3 Star Wars: Complete Locations (2016)
- ↑ Thrawn Ascendancy: Greater Good
- ↑ Star Wars: Rogue One: The Ultimate Visual Guide



















