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Wampas in TCW Comic

Hey Toprawa. There are some wampas that make an appearance in Frozen Out!, the comic from Star Wars: The Clone Wars Comic UK 6.34. The comic should be on Kaskus, but let me know if you have trouble accessing it. Hope that helps. CC7567 (talk) 03:41, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Executor-like ships in Emperor's fleet.

Look, I know this was discussed three years ago, but I really need to bring this up:

You had a Star Destroyer article, Star Destroyer (Emperor's Fleet), deleted around 2009. Your reasoning was that it was just a design variation of the Imperial-class Star Destroyer.

Before I get started, I'd like to agree in regards to not creating articles on ships based on minor variances of other ships since they are redundant.

That being said, I disagree with your argument about it being deleted, because the ship in question was not simply a "minor" variant of the Imperial-class Star Destroyers. "minor variants" of ships would be like the Eclipse I and Eclipse II within the Eclipse-class Star Dreadnought or heck, the Conqueror with any Star Destroyer in the Imperial-class (ie, while definitely possessing differences, the overall design is still the same as the class in question). The Star Destroyers seen among the Imperial Fleet in the comic version of Star Wars: The Force Unleashed did not bare any resemblance to the Imperial-class Star Destroyers at all, so it is not simply a "minor variant" as you put it. For one thing, the hull shape is completely different from the Imperial-class Star Destroyer. It actually looked closer to the Executor-class Star Dreadnought or even the Assertor-class Star Dreadnought, and I'm not even talking about the exposed parts as much as the blatant overall shape of the hull. I'd forgive the exposed parts as long as they at least had the hull in the right shape.

Regarding the fact that the game had it be Imperial-class Star Destroyers, the game also had various levels that were exclusive to each version of the game, and plus, the Death Star portion of the story was also significantly different for each version, yet you guys were capable of integrating these things seamlessly into the Battle on Death Star I, and then acknowledging the differences in the behind the scenes section. I don't see how we can't do something similar with the article.

I also read that TC thread that you started in the Trash Compactor as well, and noticed your referece to Darth Vader's armor in there. I just recently saw some of the Vader pics from the comic, and I can't say it looks that much different from the films or any of his other appearances. Either way, the armor is a bad example because the armor can't be taken off without risk of killing him, and besides which, the armor still bears some overall resemblance to the other incarnations of Darth Vader, whereas the Star Destroyers in that pic bore absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to an Imperial-class Star Destroyer.

I would have done it on the TC thread, but I suspect that I can't do so thanks to it being a closed issue, so I'm bringing it to your attention on your talk page. I'm not the original author of the first attempt BTW (although I did attempt the articles of three unidentified ones), but I do think that the article should be made, as they don't resemble an Imperial-class Star Destroyer at all. I also brought up the topic on the Emperor's fleet article. Weedle McHairybug 01:44, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

  • Uh, tl;dr. What are you even talking about? Links would go a long way here. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:46, June 16, 2012 (UTC)
    • Sigh... hold on:
The ships in this panel.

The ships in this panel.

The maniac

Done and done. It didn't takes as much work as I expected; most of the paragraphs in the Presidency article were actually copied word-for-word from Daala's article. Menkooroo (talk) 19:37, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Need an AC for a third opinion

Can you take a look at Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Search for Captain Kael? CP and I can't agree, and a third opinion either way could help. Thanks. —MJ— Training Room Saturday, June 23, 2012, 16:42 UTC

AC Meeting 48

Hey Tope. Quick reminder that AC Meeting 48 is tomorrow at 4 PM EDT. Cheers.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 20:55, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

CT amendment

This is to inform you that a small amendment has been made to Forum:CT:Subcategorization and MW 1.19. The reasons for the amendment are laid out there. Please review it and make sure that you are still in support. Thanks. —MJ— Council Chambers Friday, July 13, 2012, 14:27 UTC

Addition to the Ahsoka Tano page

Hi,

I'd just like to bring to your attention a little piece of trivia that might be nice for other people to know and was curious as to if you could add it to the Ahsoka page as the site isn't allowing me to do so.

The trivia is this:

Ahsoka currently holds the record for most decapitations in a single pass beating out famed Jason Voorhes of the the "Friday the 13th" series.

Sincerely,

Infinite Freedom

--Infinite Freedom (talk) 06:22, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

ANH Radio Drama Script

Hello Tope, given that you have worked on A New Hope characters (Davin Felth immediately comes to my mind), would you have Star Wars: The National Public Radio Dramatization? I am looking for anything relevant to TK-875 and TK-119. The radio drama itself just has Luke and Leia exchange some lines about that group of troopers, and an exchange of laser fire is heard. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 00:46, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

GAN archiving

Hey Toprawa. Just a note—I think you might have forgotten about featuring [[Wookieepedia:AC/Old GAs|old GAs]] on the queue on the weekends. I fixed it up for you, so no worries. Don't worry; I forgot about it too until Cal reminded me. :P CC7567 (talk) 23:58, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Userbox pic

I am trying to upload a picture of myself to use in my user info box but it will not let me upload it. The picture does belong to me, it contains no offensive materials. I just want to upload it. I keep getting error messages. Can you help me? Matt Seay (talk) 02:37, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

  • It's likely you're not filling in the Source field, which I believe is a requirement. Just put anything in there. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:39, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
    • I have been, i can not figure out why I can not upload any picture at all. I just want to upload this one then I can just move on to my next thing on my list. Matt Seay (talk) 02:40, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
      • I really don't know what you're doing wrong without literally seeing what you're doing. The upload form is rather extensive and touchy in nature. I might suggest going down to the bottom of the page when you get the error message and there may be a notice allowing you to "go ahead and upload anyway" or something along those lines. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:42, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
        • I filled out the form and this is the message I get... <This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Combined unverified user upload prevention
          > what does this mean? I don't think a picture of me holding a lightsaber is harmful do you? Matt Seay (talk) 02:46, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
          • The content of the image you're trying to upload is irrelevant and is not what is causing your trouble. I believe the issue is that you do not have a confirmed e-mail address set up with Wikia, which is required to upload images. This is a safeguard put in place to prevent upload abuse. You need to go into your user preferences and set up and confirm an e-mail address. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:51, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
            • Okay Thanks, I thought it was blocking my image for some other strange reason, I will go to me settings and see about my E-Mail. Matt Seay (talk) 02:54, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Recent deletion

Just wanted to draw your attention to this, since the deletion log lists you as the deleting admin. —MJ— Holocomm Monday, August 13, 2012, 02:56 UTC

Orphans

Hello. I understand why you reverted my edit in the article Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (trading cards), it's just that I've been working with the "Orphan children" and the article Boa constrictor doesn't fit anywhere besides in its source. Do you know of any place else where I can link it? Winterz (talk) 19:26, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

  • No problem, I figured that's what you were trying to do. You could probably get away with just sticking it into the Snake disambiguation page. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:36, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • Well even though it carries the real-life snake "Boa"'s name, the article doesn't say about presenting any resemblance to it or even that it is a snake...wouldn't it be speculating? :P Did it anyway. Winterz (talk) 20:20, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Meeting 49

Hilarious Entertaining AC Meeting 49™ is scheduled for August 25 at 8 PM UK time like usual. Please make an effort to show up. Cheers, 1358 (Talk) 22:50, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Queue

No worries. I was going to say something, but I didn't want to nag you. :P CC7567 (talk) 18:18, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Soft redirects

Hello. For some reason I have no edit access in two soft redirects and couldn't place the speedy delete template so basically I'm here to request, if it's no bother, to place the {{ delete|Correct redirect is Living in these Star Wars }} tag for the reason there explained, in the article Living in these Star Warz, or maybe do the act yourself (also it's better to remove the tag from here thereafter to avoid confusions). Thanks for your time. Winterz (talk) 02:22, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

  • The two pages in question are fully protected from editing specifically to prevent you from doing what you're trying to do, per community consensus. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:38, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
    • Well okay but all that I've been indicating are but incorrect copies redirecting to the exact same place than the correct redirect, or directing it to empty places, having no place in the Fan Wiki either, unless they approve clone articles. Also what I wanted to nominate for deletion was Living in these Star Warz, please change. Thanks for the heads-up. I'm an idiot and didn't notice it was an archive discussion. Forget it, although there's still the orphan pages and the fact that some are just duplicates. Winterz (talk) 03:02, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
      • I think those soft redirects need to stay orphan pages, since we agreed to delete them. What duplicates exist? Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:09, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
        • Well I'm not sure I can call them that word, but most I mentioned were clone redirects of already-existing redirects. The Living in these Star Warz and Living in these Star Wars both redirect to 'Living in these Star Wars'. And some others. If I'm correct about these being considered duplicates, I'll mention th rest here. Winterz (talk) 03:20, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
          • I intentionally retained "Living in these Star Wars" as a soft redirect, since it's likely to be an extremely common misspelling. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:28, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

TCW trailer

About that video link to the official Star Wars site, for the page "Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 5", this video is an extended version from the Star Wars YouTube page. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY1uKLTWnC4&feature=g-user-u I hope you'll reconsider. -Totechalienrexstar (talk) 22:42, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hi can you sort out the verification on the Atheno Portillo page as i am finding it difficult. the source and verification is star wars insider issue 135 article Marshalling The Troops!--Darthmaul208 (talk) 22:54, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Ganks but no Ganks

Hey, Tope. As you know, the article Gank is up for AC review: Wookieepedia:AC/Gank (third review). I've given it some TLC, and the expansion has brought the article well above the 1,000 words needed for FAN. Thus, I'd like to nominate it for FA status. However, I'm not sure if this is a violation of either AC or INQ procedures, since the article is still under active AC review. Do you have any insight into this? Should I just go ahead and nominate it, or would it be wiser to wait until the AC review concludes? I'm fine with either approach, but figured I'd get clarification from an AC/INQ member first. Thanks for any help! ~SavageBOB sig 12:17, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

  • Sure, feel free to go ahead and nominate it. What happens, technically, is that we'll reevaluate the article at the next meeting, determine that it has satisfactorily addressed the issues for which it was probed thus and maintain its GA status until it theoretically passes Inq review and becomes an FA. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:41, August 30, 2012 (UTC)
    • Cool, thanks. It's been nominated! ~SavageBOB sig 23:16, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Meeting 52

Inq meeting 52 is scheduled for 7 PM ET next Saturday. Be there if you can. IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 00:23, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

AC Meeting 51

Hey Toprawa. Meeting 51 is scheduled for this Saturday, the 20th. Make sure to come as your favorite Jedi Council member, or leave notes if you can't attend. Hope to see you there! Eeth Koth (talk) 01:36, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Meeting 53

Hey Tope,

An early heads-up that Inq Meeting 53 has been scheduled for Saturday, November third at the usual time. Hope to see you there, and if not, be sure to leave some notes beforehand. Cheers. Menkooroo (talk) 12:16, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re: GA queue

Ah, okay. Are you okay with having it queued right now, or do you want to have it sidelined for now? We can always wait on it and queue it later, since that's what we've been doing for other old GAs with problems; I'll do that if you don't mind. Thanks. CC7567 (talk) 19:01, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Rikkar-Du

Hey Tope; I've done a run through of Rikkar-Du. Articles for clans, Tassa's father, etc have been done, and I fixed a few errors and assumptions not present in the issue. Can you give it a once over in regards to linking since we both know I'm a chronic under-linker :P - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 10:51, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Just double checked; should be clan's, not clans' so I've changed that. As for the dash usage - I'm never sure, to be honest. Its formatted that way in the original source, so that's how I record it, but I'm not going to object to changing it. - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 16:19, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Request

Hi there, Tope, and thanks for your help with him. As the dead guy was actually an offshoot of my favourite pet-project, I was wondering if you could spare the time to give me your ideas about how I could improve it. Thanks again and may the Force be with you.--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 19:39, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. My own life is going to be rather busy too for the next two weeks—there is a graduation ceremony coming up where I need to make an appearance. So, yeah, take your time. It is better to do it well, than fast, right?--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 22:05, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
Exactly. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:16, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

Species template

Hey, Tope, I didn't think edit to the {{Species}} infobox was anything that needed a TC to do. No one seemed to be objecting to changes to the species template in the recently closed TC, at any rate. But I didn't want to revert your change to it without getting your opinion first. If necessary, I'll start a CT to add the subspecies field. Thanks, ~SavageBOB sig 10:52, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

  • Well, wasn't that basically the whole point of that CT? To get community approval for the inclusion of a subspecies field? No consensus was achieved, and I got the distinct impression in general that many didn't feel a new field was necessary to begin with, so going ahead and just inserting a new field anyway after this CT effectively failed seems rather inappropriate to me. I would suggest starting another CT to add the subspecies field as you say. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:12, October 30, 2012 (UTC)
    • Well, actually the CT was specifically about character articles and the "Appearances" section of species articles, not the {{Species}} template. That's why I didn't think that change was particularly controversial, any more than adding "mass" to it a few months ago was. ~SavageBOB sig 01:47, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
      • My mistake. I overlooked that the CT was about character infoboxes when closing it, rather than the species infobox. If you want to re-add that, then, feel free. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:52, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
        • No problem. I've restored it for now, since Eyrezer had gone ahead and changed a bunch of affected alien articles to reflect it. I plan to revisit the CT on the characters soon (advocating for the new infobox field exclusively, since the vote was so split between the various options), and I'll include an item about this too just to be fully transparent. (At any rate, I've heard that Star Wars: Episode 7 is going to be subtitled Attack of the Subspecies.) ~SavageBOB sig 10:32, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Seven

Cue the fan community backlash. CC7567 (talk) 21:03, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

New template

I have created a new template that could be used for the talk pages of the new Star Wars movies. I saw how the talk pages have already been deleted a couple of times so I just slapped this together real quick.

WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE NEW STAR WARS MOVIES YET SO PLEASE STOP ASKING.

We only know as much as you do about the new Star Wars films to be released. And we don't know anything. This is a talk page that is for discussing edits on the main page. Anyone who posts a question asking about the movie will be blocked.

<noinclude>[[Category:Advisory templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

Just curious of your take. Use it if you want. Fe Nite (talk) 18:39, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

  • Thank you. I imagine we will adopt that or something very similar soon enough. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:42, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

My WOTM claims

Argh Toprawa, I didn't mean forging info and introducing it in the article, I just pointed out that he added several 'objects' without throughout verification and by that I mean incorrect additions of {{1st}} and {{Image}} templates, which were obviously not verified beforehand. I'm sorry if I wasn't too explicit and was misunderstood. I guess my words did sound kind of harsh but its nothing like that. I accept whatever punishment you might want to apply on me due to this misunderstanding, just understand that I was merely pointing out Revan's simple and mostly innocent flaws (or so I think). Still, I thought they could be relevant to the matter at hand. Winterz (talk) 02:48, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

You duh best

Feel free to add this to your page for helping pretty much everyone. :P Especially for all the work you did helping me get my music projects going. :) MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 03:47, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

MasterApprentice Master and Apprentice Award, awarded by MasterFred on the 5th of November, 2012

Re: Ropal

It's actually…semi-legit. I've fixed it. I can go into detail about the chronology mess, but it might just be easier to look here if you're interested. :P CC7567 (talk) 19:58, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Disney ACmoot

ACmoot inbound. Please bring a weapon of your choice for article slaying.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 00:24, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yakun Kwaad

Hey Tope; I ran the GA brush over Yakun Kwaad like you asked. The info on him is sparse, so most of it was fine. Just some linking issues, and I reffed the thing because I like it that way :p If you want to run an eye over it and think certain things need more context, etc, then let me know. - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 12:38, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for moving all of the Battle of Alaris Prime related pages. I probably would have done it ages ago if I'd known how to properly handle it, but I'm really happy that it finally got done, Cheers. :) Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 06:59, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Z-95 FAN

Hey Toprawa. Just wanted to let you know that I did a small update to the clone Z-95 starfighter on the FAN since you reviewed it, if you wanted to glance through the changes. Thanks. CC7567 (talk) 02:36, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Music LG CT

I have removed the "Lyrics" section from the guide and added a bit into the "Conception and development" section stating that the writing of the lyrics is to be included here. A link to LyricWiki will be provided in the "Further reading" section and the infobox. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 15:48, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Master and Apprentice

I, CC7567, award Toprawa and/or Ralltiir with the Master and Apprentice award.

I, CC7567, award Toprawa and/or Ralltiir with the Master and Apprentice award.

I got to thinking the other day, and I realized just how much you've been helping me since I got here. Might as well pull this one out from the bottom drawer: I remember that my first interaction with you was when you blocked me. (I know, right? I hardly remember it either, but that's how it happened.) I've learned a lot about writing, editing, reviewing, and community interaction from you since then, and it's continued even after I joined the administration. You've always been a huge help, whether it's pointing me in the right direction regarding how to address an objection, noticing a slight linking inconsistency across my articles that I didn't catch (and that no one else but you would have noticed), or simply being a great friend. I'm still learning from your attention to detail even now, but I'm happy to say that you're one of the main reasons why I began to pay so much attention to the details. Thank you for the work you do, and many this seventh Master and Apprentice award be a testament to your guidance. CC7567 (talk) 05:30, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

R4-K5 Sourcing

Hi T 'n' R! I'm in a pickle over R4-K5 at the mo, and wonder if you could help me. Information on the page, not added by me, says that R4-K5 was a Jedi Order droid - where is that info from? Is it fanon or actual info? Also, if you want to look over the article and tell me what you think of its recent overhaul by me, then by all means do so. Check the History to see what I've done! Thank you muchly, OtterSurf (talk) 21:10, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Cheers for the response! I've combed the sources and found no such information, so I've removed it as per the "Removed unverified info" protocol. OtterSurf (talk) 21:50, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

The Varg

I'm good with how it is. I wasn't really sure to begin with, and your reasoning makes sense. Thanks for the correction.

Hmmm... "I wasn't really sure to begin with" leaves a preposition at the end of a phrase... "I wasn't really sure with which to begin?" "I wasn't really sure, beginning with that which it was?" Bah, confusing. Menkooroo (talk) 01:33, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Unidentified Jedi Knight Kalandis VII

Just reminding you to take a look at Unidentified Jedi Knight (Kalandis VII) when you have the time. Thanks for the help. DarthRevan1173 RevanTOR001 (Long live Lord Revan) 11:14, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Inq Meeting 54

Santa's Elves are requested to assemble at the Workshop for Meeting 54. If you cannot attend, please leave milk and cookies. - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 21:22, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Random musings

Hey Toprawa, sorry to bother you, but I think you forgot to finish your review on the disabled base attack. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 04:35, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

  • Yes, terribly sorry. Been indescribably busy lately. Continue yelling at me if I don't get to this soon. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:38, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

AC Meeting 53

AC Meeting 53 has been scheduled for December 22nd at the usual time. Those unable to attend are encourage to think nice thoughts and leave messages of hope and goodwill towards their fellow ACs. - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 21:22, December 10, 2012 (UTC)


Spoiler Alerts

I was wondering if Wookieepedia had an official spoiler alert warn on pages, I am back on WP after a long break and have a new account so I am rusty, thanks --—C.C.R. (talk) 03:37, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Dah! Just remembered you had them on CW TV Series shows. Sorry about that. --—C.C.R. (talk) 03:37, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

74.72.159.170

Just wanted to let you know that an IP that you blocked for ban evasion in August has now tried to make an end run around the system by asking me on SWFanon to edit on his behalf. Since you are the blocking admin and might have access to CheckUser data that I don't, I'll leave it to you to determine if further punitive action for this attempt to get around the block is warranted. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 20:52, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Update request

I asked if I could update a certain template here because I was not sure if it was allowed or not. My question has gone unanswered for a few days to I thought I would direct someones attention to it. Thank you. Fe Nite (talk) 22:28, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

File:Simmon Kinberg.jpg

Hi. I noticed that you deleted the Simon Kinberg page, so I was wondering if you could delete the image that was used in the infobox on that page, File:Simmon Kinberg.jpg, because 1. It's misspelled (Simmon should be Simon; my mistake) and 2. It's not being used anywhere on Wookieepedia. Vanoden (talk) 02:15, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Tyrant class

Hello Tope, apparently Star Wars: Complete Cross-Sections confirms that all Star Destroyers attacking Hoth were Imperial II-class. Can you check that to confirm? If so, I think that means the Tyrant is in fact Imperial II-class, even if it visually looks like I-class. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 17:58, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Bulwark

Hey Tope. I thought I got everything on the Mark I from Warfare back in April; did I miss something? Also, regarding IRC, I had to get rid of my old computer, so unfortunately I won't be on IRC until I get around to installing it/doing all the other crap I need to do on my laptop. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 00:07, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

  • Ah, right, the Mark II. Figures I'd overlook that. I'll add that right away. As far as the BTS stuff goes, I might as well add a little bit about its inclusion in Warfare and the introduction of the Mark II/naming of the Mark III, but I don't think Fry's comments are really relevant to the Mark I. Probably best to leave that just in the Mark III's BTS. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 00:25, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Your RFB reminded me of something...

MasterApprentice

Be it known across the lands and seas that I, Master Jonathan, by the power invested in me by nobody whatsoever but I'm going to do it anyway because I can, have on this twenty-eighth (or twenty-ninth if you insist on using UTC) day of December in the year two thousand twelve, one week after the end of the world that never came, decreed that

His Royal Highness, the King of Toprawa and Prince of Ralltiir

has met the qualifications for and been awarded yet another

Master and Apprentice Award

of which the total number that have been previously awarded to His Royal Highness I lost count of a long time ago, and furthermore I cite as the qualification for the aforementioned award His Royal Highness's numerous discussions with myself, from our first ill-fated interaction to more recent conversations in which His Royal Highness has helped me in more ways that I can count, including without limitation molding me into a user fit to be an administrator, and furthermore I have endorsed His Royal Highness's bid for bureaucratship and will commence my journey to the requests for user rights page immediately to cast my vote in support of this outstanding citizen of Wookieepedia.

Proclaimed this   28th   day of   December 2012  

by     —MJ— Council Chambers    

(01:06, December 29, 2012 (UTC))

Re: Superman saving the queue, instead of Lois

Thank youeth for the awardeth. ;) Really, though, I do appreciate it. :) —Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 04:04, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Wookiee Cookiee

Wookieecookie
CC7567 has awarded you a Wookiee Cookie!
For fixing a major blunder on my part.
  • Thanks again for fixing that with Cal. Hopefully we shall never have to speak of this again. (As long as I don't make a mistake like that again. :P) CC7567 (talk) 05:11, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Vocatara GAN

I did that so that I could list the entries that Vocatara appeared in. The problem was that I forgot to include a separator for one of the fields and none of the entries were shown. I fixed it so that it shows the entries now. Sorry for the confusion.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 21:40, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

GA queue cleanup, round 2

If you're bored and looking for something to do, or know an AC member who is, the first 146 (!) articles on Wookieepedia:Good article queue need to be moved to Wookieepedia:Good articles/History and added to Wookieepedia:Good articles/Random. There are articles that have been sitting there since early August that have never been added to the randomizer. The longer you put it off, the more work it will be. :P —MJ— War Room 04:27, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

  • Haha, ok. Thanks for the heads up. I'll see what we can do. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:29, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
    • I know I'm not an AC, but I'll volunteer to do it if you need someone. It may sound strange, but I actually enjoy this kind of work. :P Menkooroo (talk) 04:40, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
      • Thanks for the offer! I know it's going to be a boatload of work. I'll check around and let you know. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 05:06, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
        • I think Cal has pretty much gone through and updated everything by now. If you notice there are any articles coming up on the queue that need their templates updated, you're welcome to update them. Thanks! Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 05:44, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Hey, I wanna wish you a happy new year! :) --XXLVenom998 (talk) 11:02, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Wookieepedian of the Month

Hey, just saying thanks for congratulating me for winning the WOTM. Really appreciate it :) Commander Code-8 To say hi, press 42 08:29, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

Sunspot

Hey Toprawa! Since you've already supported my Sunspot GAN, could you please strike your remaining objection? Thanks! Imperators II(Talk) 14:01, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

GAnom

Hi Toprawa. I'm currently nominating Imperial Garrison Base to good article status and your input would be very welcome. Thanks. Stake black msg 18:05, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Archiving

Hey Tope. Just FYI, since I haven't been archiving that much recently, I'm willing to archive the other four currently approved noms on the GAN page (and potentially more, since I'm hoping to get some others ready for approval). Just wanted to save you the headache. :P CC7567 (talk) 19:40, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

  • That sounds great, but there actually might end up being more than six total because I'm still reviewing GANs. If you could take three or four now, I could get the rest when I'm done, maybe? Might be easier that way. Thanks. CC7567 (talk) 19:46, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Error

I made an error here, is there any way it can be fixed?—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 19:57, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Bureaucrat

Congratulations on your successful RFB, Tope! :) You now will see one or two new buttons. Enjoy, and welcome to the pentaverate. ;) Cheers, grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 00:07, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Thank you

You're welcome, Ahsoka_in_a_cage. Congratulations again man. :) JangFett (Talk) 15:54, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

  • No problem, bro, I am glad we are friends, as well. And yes, I'll keep the articles coming.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 21:51, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

That certain matter

Hey tope, you mentioned something about a negative attitude I had early here on the Wookieepedia and that I was able to turn it around. If my guess is correct and you're talking about those certain words I wrote in DarthRevan's WOTM nomination 2 months back, I just wanted to say that I've never had any hostile action towards anyone here and I've kept myself always "clean" of conflicts or any confusions and you may note that my record is clean of any offensive or negative attitude I may have had towards another user. Yes, I understand I was being too frontal back then but that was my opinion and it didn't mean that I disliked DarthRevan, it just meant that I didn't approve of his nomination by then, but a side from that, even before those words, me and DarthRevan had several peaceful, harmless and cooperative actions towards one another. I understand that you may have confused me for trying to flame DarthRevan with those words, and even I came to regret what I said about him then, but regardless, they were still mostly non-offensive words and I was not seeking any conflict nor did I expect anyone to take it as negatively. Just wanted to clear that up, and also, congrats on the new shiny spot. ;) Winterz (talk) 02:58, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

  • No explanation needed. :) As I said in my WOTM comment, any negative opinion I may have had of you has been totally reformed by your positive behavior since then. I even told Revan how impressed I am with you. So keep up the good work. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:01, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Request

Hey, if you have some free time, I was wondering if I could get you to take a look at this and let me know if there is anything I should fix. I should have most of the information regarding the skirmish in the article, though i've got a bit left to expand and tweak. Much appreciated, Supreme Emperor (talk) 02:20, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Bulwark

Oops, thanks for catching that. :P CC7567 (talk) 19:45, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Wookieepedia and DisneyWiki Being Affiliates

Is it Possible for Wookieepedia and DisneyWiki to be Friends Byzantinefire 22:07, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Canon policy

Hi. No problem. I think we realize now how it's not very good to be overly specific in these policies, though. By our standards, right now, material from Fantasy Flight Games is not considered a valid source, even though it is. Stake black msg 20:07, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Bulwark Mark III

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Inq Meeting 55

Inq Meeting 55 is scheduled for 2/3 February. Leave notes if you can't make it. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:40, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Question

Hi Toprawa and Ralltiir, I have a question : why did you removed the picture I posted in the page of Vima Sunrider ? Maguinic (talk) 18:29, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

  • I reverted your image additions because they don't fit into the article. Images should typically alternate alignment left to right within the article, according to site policy. If you find you're cramming images into an article like sardines in a can with no more room to alternate alignment, then that's usually a sign that the article doesn't have room to support any more images. We usually have a surplus of great images for major article topics, and it's unfortunate that we can't fit in every one. We just have to be discerning and try to pick what best illustrates each article. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:42, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
    • Ok, but it is a pity, the Wiki could have a superb collection of beautiful images... And if I try to match the images with paragraphs and if the article is not saturated with images, do you will remove them ? In any case, thank you for your answer. Maguinic (talk) 20:21, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
      • You're welcome to try and work them in as best you can, just make sure that they alternate whenever possible and are sized in good proportion to the size of whatever section they are in. As long as it looks ok, I have no problem. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:24, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
        • Okay! Thank you for these informations, I will try to repect that. ;) Maguinic (talk) 14:56, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Indirect mention tags

Hi Toprawa, I have a question about using {{Imo}} tags that are mostly used in Events section. My impression was we're using these tags when something resembles some event happened before or aren't mention or appear as name of the article. To avoid confusion I put quotation marks (not completely word by word) after name of the article. I'm kinda confused why you revert my edit in Dark Tide duology even when I used Imo tag for the same event how is named in the novels (like I said not completely word by word). I'd be happy if you can clear for me when and in what circumstances is appropriate to use Imo tag to avoid each other reverting. Thank you. --Jedi Marty (talk) 20:07, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

  • Firstly, thank you for approaching me with this civilly. It is not my wish to perpetuate an edit war with you either. I don't think there's anything wrong with your use of the Imo tag. I believe you are using them correctly. My issue lies with literal, formal titles for battles. I am currently working on the Seizure of Coruscant article and am trying to track down all of that battle's formal titles. As you will see, I have currently found three. It's important to distinguish what constitutes a "formal title" and what does not. If this book, for example, refers to this battle as "Coruscant's liberation," it would not be appropriate for us to take it upon ourselves to turn that into "Liberation of Coruscant" and treat that as a formal title, since the book never literally uses that name. We should only present names according to exactly how a source describes it. Hope that helps. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
    • Thank you for your answer and example. I checked your edits on the DT duology and agree how you revert my edit. So if I'm in doubt or in complicated description in novel or other sources for already named article I'm gonna use name of the article without adding quotation marks, but using Imo tag only. --Jedi Marty (talk) 20:40, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Seizure of Coruscant

Hey Tope, liking the work you're doing with Seizure of Coruscant, just wondering whether [[Second Mission to Coruscant (Galactic Civil War)]] should be merged with it also? Rokkur Shen (talk) 23:26, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

  • Thank you. I don't remember all of that subject matter perfectly, but it seems to me like it's all part of the overall capturing of Coruscant. I think it could legitimately be merged into the Seizure article, yeah. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:47, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Image upload problem

Hi there, Tope! I've encountered a problem uploading images. Menk asked me here to add a cropped version of this pic into the article, I got it cropped but for some reason Wookiee doesn't allow me to upload it. I've been able to add pictures before, I got more than enough edits and my e-mail was confirmed years ago, but still it keeps telling me I'm not allowed to add it. Can you help?--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 22:42, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

  • Hey, Dionne. I'm not exactly sure, to be honest. Our upload form can be very sensitive sometimes. If you're uploading an identical image, sometimes it triggers a safety net because it recognizes it as potential vandalism or some such. If you scroll down to the very bottom of the upload page, there might be an option to ignore any warnings it gives you. If that doesn't help, try asking Culator. He knows more about image uploading than I do. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:46, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
I'll try that. Thanks.--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 22:48, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
You're triggering filter 17, the "unverified user upload preventation" filter. It seems that you are not a member of the "emailconfirmed" user group. Did you recently change email? 1358 (Talk) 22:49, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
No. I haven't changed it since I first joined up and confirmed it way back when. Should I try and make a new one?--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 22:51, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, try that. If the issue persists, bug Grunny. 1358 (Talk) 22:53, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Reconfirming e-mail helped and got the image uploaded. Maybe they have some kind of "deadline" somewhere and you have to reconfirm the e-mail at regular intervals.--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 23:00, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Great :) Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:00, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Hildebrandt Stennes

Hey, Tope. I just saw you added Star Wars: The Art of the Brothers Hildebrandt to the Sources of the Stennes (species) page. I'm currently working on that page and its sibling, Stennes Shifter, so I want to make reference to the image the Stennes appear in in the book, but I can't find it. Which particular image or page were you referring to? Thanks for any help! ~SavageBOB sig 13:02, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

  • The picture I got that from is on the book's "Foreward" page at the beginning. There's a Mos Eisley Cantina painting with a few of its patrons, and there's a little goblin-looking guy sitting at the table next to Momaw Nadon. I admit I wasn't perfectly clear who that was, so I took a stab. I'm not sure what the difference is between these two species, but I guess it looks more like the Shifter. Hope that helps. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:11, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
    • Ah, OK. My copy has that page missing... Does it seem that the image is intended to represent the set of characters present in the A New Hope cantina scene? In that case, it'd be Trinto Duaba, who's a Shifter. If not, we can't really tell, since the species and subspecies look identical. Thanks again. ~SavageBOB sig 21:51, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
      • Definitely yes, to answer your question, and I agree that it appears to correspond to Duaba. I had added the source to his article as well. In this picture, Duaba is sitting next to Momaw Nadon, which I'm to understand from Duaba's article is his position in the film as well. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:11, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
        • That's it. Thanks for checking! I'll add it to he Shifter article too. ~SavageBOB sig 02:49, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Quotation

Hey Tope. After I read through the manual of style, something came up while I was reviewing this article, Duwani Mechanical Products. In the quotation section of the Manual, the later point of "What a Quote includes" and the single point of "What a Quote is not" something is confusing me. Can there be quotes from in-universe guides, books, etc. or not? The said case would be this guide. Thanks. Winterz (talk) 15:05, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Moving a page

Hey Toprawa, could you move [[Second Battle of the Solar Terrors]] to Battle of the Solar Terrors? Currently the latter is a redirect to another article, so I can't do it my self. The redirect is useless, and there's no problem with deleting it to move to that page. Thanks, 501st dogma(talk) 13:07, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

  • Thanks. I'll leave the redlink here, if that's fine with you. 501st dogma(talk) 20:00, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Mutiny GAN

Sorry about that confusion on the GAn page while I tried to move the page. I realised after that I would have to rename the nomination page, and after that, my computer decided to take for ever to load the site, preventing me from moving it back. 501st dogma(talk) 21:52, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

  • Oops. It looked like you fixed it on the RC page, but you didn't. It's been remedied by me. Sorry about all of this... :| 501st dogma(talk) 22:07, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Avenger, Stalker and Behin the Magic

Can you tell exactly where BtM deals with the Avenger, Stalker etc.? I searched and could find it. I Guess that BtM was the Source which identify the Ships in this picture. Maybe you could help me, so I can update he German articles. --Modgamers (talk) 22:15, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

  • I believe it's in the "scene-by-scene" film feature. There should be call-outs that you can toggle that will identify the ships. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:17, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

74.72.159.170 again

Just wanted to let you know that this guy is at it again. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 05:34, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

The IP has now been blocked on SWFanon by Brandon Rhea for three months. I wonder what wiki he'll harass me at next? :P —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 05:54, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I guess we'll just sit back and wait for more lolz. :P Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 07:58, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Battle CT

Just in case you'd not noticed, I revised the battle titles CT with the provisions from the discussion. I mention this just because your reject vote was (at the time) contingent on them not having been included in the original wording, but that's been fixed. But if you've changed your mind in the meantime, well, not much I can do =) — DigiFluid(Whine here) 16:24, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Meeting 55

Hey Tope, Meeting 55 has been scheduled for February 23 at 4PM ET (9PM UTC). Please make an effort to show up. 1358 (Talk) 16:21, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Halloween

Hey, Tope, I wanted to follow up on the Darth Vader & Son mention of Halloween and get your opinion. I checked the book, and there's no explicit mention of Halloween. Instead, there's a gag where toddler Luke is dressed as a stormtrooper and trick-or-treating at Mon Mothma's house. She says, "Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?" That's the only text on the page. Now, this is an obvious reference to Halloween, the earth holiday. What's less clear is if it has any place being mentioned (or listed as an appearance) on our Halloween page, which is about the in-universe holiday. Of course, the book itself is quite nebulous as to whether it takes place on earth or in the Star Wars universe. What do you think? Does this deserve any kind of attention on our page, or should I just axe the appearance? ~SavageBOB sig 12:21, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

  • Yes, that's interesting, and I understand what you mean. I would consider this purely a real-world, OOU reference and therefore having no real relation to the IU Halloween. If it were me, I think I would probably remove it from the Appearances but still consider leaving a brief BTS note explaining what you just detailed here, though if you even wanted to forgo that I would not balk. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 12:51, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Snoova

Hey, Tope. Is it Snoova himself who's pictured in the Hildebrandt book, or Chewie as Snoova? I'd like to specify it's Chewie if the latter. Thanks! ~SavageBOB sig 18:49, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

  • It's a picture of Chewbacca with the following passage from the SOTE novel: "She turned to Guri, who said, 'Meet Snoova, a well-known Wookiee bounty hunter,'" referring to the disguise. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:41, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

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Klaatu

Hi Tope, is there any confirmation on the Shadows of the Empire: Luke's Taken Prisoner card that it is specifically Klaatu and not just another random Kadas'sa'Nikto? Based on likeness alone it could also be Giran or Yotts Orren. Is there any additional information regarding Klaatu from this source or Brothers Hildebrandt? Rokkur Shen (talk) 01:44, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

  • Yes, Brothers Hildebrandt states that it's meant to be a Klaatu. I was unsure myself until I read that. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 01:53, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the quick response. Just to be clear, is it quoted as "a Klaatu"? Was the Brothers Hildebrant book published prior to the species receiving the name "Nikto". This may infer that they meant it to be a member of the Nikto species rather than the specifically named character: Klaatu. Rokkur Shen (talk) 02:12, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
      • The book says "The other aliens in the scene are wearing Don Post masks of Weequay and Klaatu, who both appeared in the movies." When I added the source to these articles, I was mistakenly treating "Klaatu" as a species. I'm realizing now that it's a character. The Hildebrandts used some film props from the Lucasfilm archives for production photos, so I'm guessing this is meant to say that it's the character mask used for Klaatu. I would leave the source in the Klaatu article and re-add both of what I removed to the Kadas'sa'Nikto article. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:27, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
        • Ok, sounds good. Man, I wish I had that book. Rokkur Shen (talk) 03:40, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Brothers Hildebrandt art for Zuckuss and 4-LOM

Anything specific that I need to know, or is it just a picture-only with stuff that's already been covered by a dozen other sources? Thanks! Trak Nar Ramble on 01:58, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Emperor's skyhook

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Hasbro

Hey, Tope, where was it decided to condense all the Hasbro toy line articles into one article? I must have missed the discussion. I think it's a mistake, since these toy lines are similar to different comic book series, in my opinion, and condensing them means that the 1,000+ figures Hasbro has made all get lumped together. I'm not upset or anything; just wanted to register my opinion. :) ~SavageBOB sig 14:36, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

  • I haven't condensed the toy line articles, and I agree with you that they should remain separate. I merely moved the "Star Wars Saga" toy line article to its formal name, which is simply "Star Wars." If you read our article on it, as well as Rebelscum's blurb on that specific line, you'll see that "Star Wars Saga" is fan nomenclature for that specific line's uninspired name. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:40, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Sofixing

There's no need to overreact, man. I appreciate what you're trying to do, but your guess at my intent is way off. Menkooroo (talk) 13:25, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

  • Once again, we appreciate your willingness to help resolve lacking articles. Leaving thinly-veiled implications in the process is not appreciated, however. Thanks! Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 13:27, February 25, 2013 (UTC)
    • You can stop waving the baton; there were no thinly-veiled implications. Cheers. Menkooroo (talk) 13:30, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Insider 139

Hi Tope. Do you have Insider 139? I'm wondering if there is something "addable" to Bounty 239. If not, probably something for the BtS sections. Stake black msg 16:50, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

  • I do. He's mentioned in a blurb advertising a Boba Fett statue from the Mythos story. The relevant part reads: "Sideshow Collectibles Mythos' line of polystone statues captures Boba Fett in a pose from the expanded universe where Boba Fett is about to go after his 239th bounty, a Bith slimo who apparently deserves everything coming to him." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:15, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Image CT

Hey, I wanted to notify you of changes made to the image CT; it has been overhauled following IRC discussion and now only deals with images in scroll boxes. Feel free to review the changed proposal and alter your vote if your opinion on the new issue is different. Thanks! Cade Calrayn GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit 19:47, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

SS 1000

Correct, thanks Tope. Stake black msg 01:25, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Archiving

Hey Tope. Just so you know, I was planning on archiving Oasis mother in a few, so if you want you can leave that to me once you're finished queuing Nink. CC7567 (talk) 17:49, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Flowers and plants

Hello Tope. I just found out today that you separated the search term "flower" from the "plant" article's redirect in January. While I'm sure you did it for good reasons, I don't really think we should have separate articles. I've been working on "plant" for some time, and I believe everything about flowers has its place there, since flowers are only the reproductive organs of seed plants—as you know, of course. Don't get me wrong, I did not come here intent on changing things, but I wanted to discuss that matter with you, because if we expand on "flower", many things added will be redundant with the content of "plant." Regards. --LelalMekha (talk) 01:17, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

  • Hey, Lelal. Thanks for the message. I do understand what you're saying. I think this is basically a microcosm of the general "hyperinclusionism" debate; i.e., what deserves its own article, and what should be folded into a larger article? I am inclined to keep the flower article for the same reason I imagine we will keep the fruit article. Fruits are no less the byproduct of a plant as a flower ultimately is; would we therefore merge the fruit article into the plant article? Or, for that matter, merge any of the Imperial Palace locations into Imperial Palace, as one example? While most, if not all, of the information that would go into the "flower" article may very well be repeated in the "plant" article, I think it's important to remember that while every flower is a plant, not every plant has a flower. I believe there is ultimately enough unique Star Wars information (see here for an idea of how much the "flower" article could potentially be expanded) for the flower article to stand independent of the parent plant article. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:45, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
    • Well, now that I realize how many pages link to "flower," I can see your point. Granted, I am an inclusionist myself, but more of a "variable-geometry" inclusionist to tell the truth. ;-) Since I've been expanding on "plant", I may start working on "flower" too. I'll keep an eye on it at any rate. --LelalMekha (talk) 02:50, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Anakin Skywalker page

I'm having a problem seeing the full Anakin Skywalker page. When I get to the section where he finds Galen Marek, everything below that is covered by blank white. None of the other pages that I've gone to have had that issue. This is the only page that I can't fully see/read. DBZSSJ3 (talk) 07:25, March 10, 2013 (UTC)DBZSSJ3

The Seeker of Darkness

Toprawa and Ralltiir i would like to make a general statement i'm sorry for posting too many links on the IRC channel and i wish i could find someway to make it up in the future (Byzantinefire 00:53, March 11, 2013 (UTC))

GAs, GAs everywhere

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CT change

Just letting you know that I've altered the OOU CT based on your suggestion regarding the images in the "Main characters" section. Menkooroo (talk) 04:01, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

TOR Wampas

Hey, Tope, I've finally gotten a TOR character to Hoth, and I've been noting where wampas play a role in quest storylines. Here's what I've got so far: In the smuggler story, the smuggler (at this point, a Republic-allied privateer) goes to Shai Tenna's Pleasure Den, a bunker carved out of the Hoth ice where the Weequay pirate Shai Tenna's men hang out. The smuggler is trying to be initiated into Tenna's group, the White Maw, so he can steal an advanced cloaking device from them at the urging of Senator Dodonna (revealed in the mission "Divided Loyalties"). However, once the smuggler does the deeds requested of him for initiation, one of Tenna's men ambushes the smuggler and knocks him/her out (quest: Brotherhood). The smuggler awakens in the Wampa Cave in the Highmount Ridge region of Hoth, near the Pleasure Den. The smuggler must escape the wampa cave alive (quest: Brotherhood). There is a bonus quest here that reveals a bit more: The wampas are Tenna's pets, and the player can defeat 10 of them to complete an optional mission (quest: "Wampa Stomp"). Here, the tactics of the wampas may also be of interest to you. They come in several sizes, from roughly human height up to twice human height. The smaller ones hide in piles of snow; when you attack one of the larger ones, the smaller ones burst out and surprise attack. May be fodder for the behavior section of the article.

In other areas, we get smaller mentions in quests that are open to any Republic-allied character: We learn that a group of renegades on Hoth known as the Terror Brigade are made of ex-Mandalorians. They came to Hoth looking for thrills, among which was wrestling wampas (quest: The Terror Brigade). Later, there's a quest where the PC has to take out Master Sav, the leader of a group of cultists known as the Hailstorm Brotherhood. The Imperials once left him for dead in wampa territory. The Imperial Captain Biron (temporarily at a truce with the Republic to take out Sav) says, "He strangled one with a tauntaun femur and skinned it with his own claws. He showed up in the ice fortress weeks later, quite alive." (quest: Trick or Treat).

I'll take notes on further mentions; there will probably be a few more. ~SavageBOB sig 15:22, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

  • Thanks, Bob. Fortunately, I think I've gotten most of this already, though I'm not sure I covered every wampa bit on the planet, so I appreciate your continuing notes on this. If you see anything I'm missing or want to see anything specifically added, like the Behavior section bit, just say so. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:37, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
    • Ah, cool. I didn't notice you'd done the update. Are you playing the game, or did you get this through YouTube, etc.? Yeah, the behavior bit probably bears adding. I'll note any other quirks as I continue my playthrough. ~SavageBOB sig 19:29, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
    • Also, it seems you have a Trooper mission featuring Shai Tenna accounted for, but not the Smuggler mission I recounted above. There are apparently two versions of "Wampa Stomp," one for the Trooper, one for the Smuggler, and both should probably be mentioned as well. ~SavageBOB sig 19:32, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
      • Ok, will look into it. I just watched some guy's YouTube playthrough, which didn't appear to be comprehensive. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:34, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Sith Emperor

Wouldn't it look better if we started calling the Sith Emperor by his real name? Sith Emperor sounds generic, since numerous people held that title. Wouldn't it look better if he was called by his actual name, Darth Vitiate, from now on. In order to avoid possible confusion? —Unsigned comment by DBZSSJ3 (talk • contribs)

Official Wookieepedia Friends

If one was to ask for an official friendship with Wookieepedia, what would be main thing you would look for? A lot of information, a good format, large community, referencing, fanon/truth of information, how it would help Wookieepedia? I was just wondering. I was looking through the official Wookieepedia friend nominations in the Successful and Unsuccessful parts to see what. What do you think? Thanks! [[File:Clone trooper icon.png|16px]] Legoclones (Comlink) 18:31, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

  • Yeah, that's about the gist of it. You should be convincing us that Wookieepedia would actually benefit from being friends with you, not that you're using Wookieepedia to improve your own site. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:46, March 27, 2013 (UTC)
    • Okay, thanks!Thanks! [[File:Clone trooper icon.png|16px]] Legoclones (Comlink) 19:29, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Objections

Hey Tope, just wanted to let you know that your objections in Revan's nom have been answered more than 2 weeks ago ;). Winterz (talk) 15:48, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

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Come back! :'O MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 21:25, April 7, 2013 (UTC)