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Hello all! While perusing through our canon planet and moon articles for a project I'm working on, I noticed that many of them are in dire need of expansion, updating, illustration, and overall reorganization to better adhere to the standards in the Layout Guide and Manual of Style. This doesn't just apply to obscure planets, as even Dagobah is a stub with no "History" section. I've gauged community interest through private conversations with various editors, and I believe there is enough support to garner a collaborative effort to better our coverage in this area. With that said, below are lists of things that need to be done to various planet articles, so feel free to jump in and help in whatever way you are able! MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 19:43, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Articles

Just sign your name under a link to indicate your intention to fix the relevant issue.

Articles in need of updating

Articles in need of expansion

Articles in need of images

Articles in need of sourcing

Articles in need of creation

Articles in need of verification

Participants

  1. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 20:04, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
  2. --Lewisr (talk) 20:05, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
  3. I should be able to do a bit of stuff for Imperial planets Tommy Imperial Emblem Macaroni 20:07, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
  4. --DarthRuiz30 (talk) 20:18, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
  5. To the extent that my dignity allows me to interact with Canon subject matter. :P Imperators II(Talk) 20:54, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
  6. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 22:46, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
  7. I don't have much reference material to use, but I'll help where (or if) I can. Zed42 (talk) 23:27, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 23:41, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
  9. At Fred's request. Fan26 (Talk) 23:55, February 6, 2019 (UTC)
  10. I should be able to make some edits here or there. - Cwedin(talk) 22:51, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

  • If anybody has Star Wars: The Visual Encyclopedia, would it be possible to get higher quality version of these two images: File:AleenTVE.png and File:CarlacTVE.png? MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 03:16, February 7, 2019 (UTC)
  • I noticed Helska/Canon in the 'need of creation' section. However Helska in Legends is a star, so would one of the two need to be disambiguated? Also, as there is more than one planet in the system, would it be able to be linked to any Legends page in {{Eras}}? Zed42 (talk) 10:41, February 7, 2019 (UTC)
    • The Helska in Legends should be moved to Helska (star) per the naming policy and then the canon Helska should be at just Helska. As for the other thing, probably best to not link it to anything and maybe just use a otheruses template instead --Lewisr (talk) 13:40, February 7, 2019 (UTC)
  • A question regarding The Force Awakens Beginner Game. I've noticed that the names on the map are now being treated as generic astronomical objects rather than planets. I assume this means the wording on all the articles needs to be changed? Zed42 (talk) 05:17, February 9, 2019 (UTC)
    • Yeah. As Anil pointed out to me, the map labels non-planetary objects the same as planets, so we can't really know for certain without additional info. Imperators II(Talk) 05:34, February 9, 2019 (UTC)
      • How about the space stations with "Station" in their name? Is that enough to identify them, or do they also have to be changed? Zed42 (talk) 05:49, February 9, 2019 (UTC)
        • Good question. Legends example: Horn Station was not a space station. Imperators II(Talk) 17:43, February 9, 2019 (UTC)
          • Alright. When I have the time, I can try go through all the articles. Unless, for some reason, someone else really wants to. Zed42 (talk) 18:28, February 9, 2019 (UTC)
  • I've created the section "Articles in need of verification" for planets that had TFABG as source. These locations in the list have multiple sources so they need to verified that none of them confirms that they're planets.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 10:04, February 10, 2019 (UTC)
    • I've gone through all the planets and added the ones with multiple sources to this list. A couple of them (most of which seemed to be from Tarkin) referenced other material for their status as a planet, but the accompanying quotes only briefly mention names, so it can't hurt to check those too. Zed42 (talk) 12:39, February 10, 2019 (UTC)
  • Question regarding Antar: since nothing says its a planet, are we still going to say that Antar 4 and Dead Moon of Antar are moons of it? I'm not sure what source says Antar 4 is a moon of it, its page says it is based on Antar's placement in the TFABG map --Lewisr (talk) 18:45, February 10, 2019 (UTC)
    • Do Tarkin and Ultimate Star Wars refer to them as moons? If not, but they say they orbit Antar, I say we just refer to them as satellite objects. MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 19:21, February 10, 2019 (UTC)
      • Yes to both being referred to as moons in those two books --Lewisr (talk) 19:31, February 10, 2019 (UTC)
        • Does anything else actually mention the name "Antar" at all? It has no other sources on the page, and "Antar" on the map could just refer to Antar 4, as some other names that have numbers are shortened. Zed42 (talk) 18:37, February 11, 2019 (UTC)
          • Not that I know of, no source other than TFABG links to it --Lewisr (talk) 19:56, February 11, 2019 (UTC)
  • Another question, if a moon is stated to orbit something, can that object be confirmed to be a planet? For example, astronomical objects such as Ai'ken Prime, Kudo and Gozgo have been mentioned as having moons, but none of the respective appearances have exactly specified that they are planets. Zed42 (talk) 10:26, February 12, 2019 (UTC)
    • This most probably doesn't answer your question, but FWIW if there's no actual information on "Ai'ken Prime," "Kudo," and "Gozgo," there should only exist articles for moons of Ai'ken Prime, third moon of Kudo, and moons of Gozgo. Imperators II(Talk) 10:21, February 13, 2019 (UTC)
      • Fair comment, we can just simply adjust the current ones to what you're saying Imp --Lewisr (talk) 04:17, February 14, 2019 (UTC)
        • Ai'ken Prime and Gozgo have any other mentions, but does the fact that the third moon of Kudo is also called Kudo III change anything? Zed42 (talk) 04:27, February 14, 2019 (UTC)