This is an archive of past discussions, so please do not modify it. Please contact me on the previous page.
Darth Nox
Hi Cade! Although I don't really have as much ardor and enthusiasm as you do when it comes to such pharaonic project as the Hero of Tython, I feel inspired by your example, and I would like to start improving Darth Nox' article. However, I suspect there are many info about the Inquisitor in the Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia, which I don't own. I wondered whether you could provide me with the relevant info from that book. Do not worry, I'm aware that you keep yourself busy here, but I'm not in a hurry myself. The Darth Nox project will be a long one. Cheers! --LelalMekha (talk) 21:35, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
Meeting reminder
A reminder that Inq Meeting 59 will be in two days (if you go by ET, that's Saturday the 28th at 8 PM ET). If you can't make it, please remember to leave notes. Thanks. CC7567 (talk) 02:32, September 27, 2013 (UTC)
Images
Heyas! I was just wanted to know if there's a reason why the 3D render of Bastila is used instead of the other image. Is it because the 3D render represents her latest attire or appearance, or something along those lines? Just confused and need clarification. Thanks! --
04:53, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
House Alde embassy
Imperial strike team (Cold War)
Hello. I would like to make an argument against deletion of Imperial strike team (Cold War) page. You argue that it is not stated that those four individuals were sent to Flashpoints. I think the game evidence says the opposite. Malgus, the main character involved with the Flashpoints, is contacting exactly those four individuals throughout the individual class storylines. Some of his in-game conversations are even specific to the class (i.e. referring directly to Agent, for example). The Flashpoints take four individuals, that is in my opinion clearly established. Though the game-play mechanics themselves allow different composition of the 4 man team, for example two Agents, but that is non-canon since there are no two Cipher Nine in the universe. So the only reasonable option left is that each of the class represents one of those four that participated in Flashpoint. I fail to see how that is non-canon. Furthermore, while there is a strong and rather quite direct evidence that Wrath, Nox, Nine and Champion of the Great Hunt participated in those missions, there is no direct evidence that anyone else participated in their strike team. Sometimes Imperial Navy or Army is supporting them but they are not the strike team itself and are stated along the strike team in the participants list. Path-x (talk) 02:10, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
- There are several holes in your theory. First off, the Allusis Flashpoint features Imperial and Republic strike teams that are composed of unique NPCs who are unrelated to the class characters. Secondly, the game's dialogue is specifically tailored to individual players. If a player has not completed a specific operation or flashpoint, then dialogue will not acknowledge their participation in the event. It's speculation to definitively say that the class characters are involved; what about Operations? Just because there are four individuals on the "strike team"—which is not necessarily the same between every Flashpoint—doesn't mean that the four class characters are involved. Until there is definitive evidence on the canon outcomes of the Flashpoints and Operations, which could be completed by either faction, we can't assume that the class characters are the strike team members. Cade
Calrayn 02:18, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
- Well as for Operations, I think those can be classified as PVE end-game content while Flashpoints are storyline related. So I believe there is a difference. Now as for Flashpoints and individual class involvement, I think you have a point (though it may be just as valid as mine) but if we followed that point then we would need to remove many other things. One of the examples is Allusis Flashpoint that you mentioned yourself. Currently the page lists 1 Sith Warrior, 1 Sith Inquisitor, 1 Agent and 1 Bounty Hunter which is (according to what you stated) the same contradiction. If we are to follow what you said, then stuff like this should be also removed. Path-x (talk) 02:50, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
- Now if I may propose a compromise solution. We could still have the strike team page. Malgus being the leader is still completely canon, as well as many other things I stated on, now deleted, page. As for Wrath's, Nox's, Nine's and Champion's involvement, we could either not mention it at all or treat it as "occasional". The point I am trying to make is that I don't see the reason why the page itself had to be removed when only the "non-canon" part could be omitted. Path-x (talk) 02:50, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
- But that's assuming that the strike teams are the same, which they aren't. It's just a group of random individuals who Malgus gathers for various missions, and the characters aren't necessarily the same each time. There's no reason to be specific about the strike teams or to make articles for them. Cade
Calrayn 03:02, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
- I completely agree that the composition may have varied from mission to mission BUT I just cannot agree that it was a different strike team. There is a clear evidence that this is the same strike team (always commanded by Malgus, always operating from Vaiken Spacedock). Though Malgus may have picked different individuals to participate in his strike team, it was always his strike team. Fighter squadrons and all other units during the wars naturally change their composition throughout the time but it is still the same squadron/unit. And the reason to have an article of its own is for the convenience of the reader. The page was a hub for all the Flashpoints that Malgus and his strike team did. Path-x (talk) 03:17, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
- But that's assuming that the strike teams are the same, which they aren't. It's just a group of random individuals who Malgus gathers for various missions, and the characters aren't necessarily the same each time. There's no reason to be specific about the strike teams or to make articles for them. Cade
Hey I'm sorry I love Anakin Solo and I was going to change it back but I wanted to see how long it would take someone realize it sorry I didn't mean to make you mad or anything my bad
Build R2-D2
Isn't it non-merchandise, because it comes with a book, about r2's role in the galaxy, and adventures?Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 01:51, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
- I see nothing unique about it; it's a promotional product for a model. Cade
Calrayn 01:55, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
Source and references
Listen, I don't know what's going on. And I'm just as confused of what this is. First, I'm not trying to add any confusion towards you. Second, I was only trying to help and add the right references from the Star Wars: Galaxies. Those few edits that I did were not wrong. I added the right references.--99.56.52.29 00:29, October 4, 2013 (UTC)
Revert Raptus
Why did you revert it? That was the latest version of Raptus.--67.189.155.19 13:34, October 4, 2013 (UTC)
Armor
Hey, you were right about Attatag Gosem. I added a bit about his armor and headset; it was noticeably absent when you consider that his blaster pistol was already mentioned. I was being too prissy about it before, and the article looks better now. Hooray! Menkooroo (talk) 14:21, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
Table of Contents for list of Status Articles pages
Hi, I was wondering if you could give your input on the Senate Hall thread "Table of Contents requested for Status Articles pages" and let us know if you like the proposed Table of contents that was created by JangFett. If you want to see what it would look like, you can see it in this Table of Contents prototype page. Let us know what you think so we can implement this into the three pages (CA/GA/FA).--Richterbelmont10 (come in R2!) 18:30, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
Strategic Command
Human
90.202.244.49 16:14, October 10, 2013 (UTC)Adanar is a Human and I've got a source for it Darth Bane path of destruction typically states he is Human same with Ulabore90.202.244.49 16:14, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
90.202.244.49 18:00, October 10, 2013 (UTC)I don't know if their is a source from Darth Bane path of Destruction but thier is definitely and undeniably a source that say Adanar and Ulabore are Human in the Complete Star Wars Encyclopaedia.90.202.244.49 18:00, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but that's complete bull. I have the CSWE right here, and the word "Human" is not mentioned a single time in either of their entries. "man" does not mean Human. Cade
Calrayn 18:05, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
Lists
Hello Cade, the problem is you appear to have gone on a list purge without appending any of the applicable categorisation tags to your edits or attempting to reinsert relevant information back into the article itself. Please, if you're going to remove information, make sure that each entry you remove has been appropriately tagged with the relevant categorisation tags first. Thank you. Bo Shuda (talk) 04:11, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
- Your POV on what is triva or not is your POV. New users would find it useful to be able to identify who was there during the events of films. Since we have no category for Outlander Club patrons at that time then the list should stay. Bo Shuda (talk) 04:32, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
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Cade, I realise you have not yet gone over the 3 reverts but you are getting close. As you did not attempt to initially engage me in dialogue I'm issuing this as a reminder. As I explained before there is no relevant category so the information should remain in one form or the other. Also as previously mentioned based on your past edits to lists, you appear to remove lists without re-categorising individual entries or attempting to re-insert relevant information. This just creates more work for everyone. Thank you. Bo Shuda (talk) 04:49, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
Ministry of Travel and Hub 3 (among other things)
Cade, it's not that I regard myself as completely above suspicion, but I don't think I've displayed the habit of making things up here. If the Ministry of Travel and the Hub 3 are nowhere in the game files, it's probably because game files aren't everything. Actually, I'm one of the rare players who actually read the Aurebesh inscriptions in the game, and those things you marked as dubious come from a map kiosk shown in Kaas City. I was going to upload it and write a BTS, but I wanted to create the relevant articles first. There is still more information to dig. (And I also didn't do it right on the spot because my connection is a real nightmare tonight… It took me twenty darn minutes just to upload that pic you saw!) --LelalMekha (talk) 23:48, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, Lelal, but I was concerned by the lack of information I could find on the subject. "Ministry of Travel" seemed contradictory to all other material that said there are only three ministries in the Empire, and I wasn't sure where you were getting it, so I tagged it with a verify because I had to leave just after I saw the article. It's not that I don't trust you :P I just didn't know whether you were going to leave it as it stood without any further information. Glad that could be cleared up, and yeah, the Wook's been really bad today in terms of loading. (P.S. The game files actually are almost everything—99% of the text in the game is in the text files I have; I've only seen one instance where they weren't.) Cade
Calrayn 00:02, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
New infobox
I don't know if you did it for me, but... thank you. :D This looks like it'll be much better. Menkooroo (talk) 05:48, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
- I actually thought of it when I saw you working on the Legacy arc; it'll be useful for me too :P Cade
Calrayn 05:49, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
Battle of Hoth
Cade, as explained by my comment attached to the recent edit on the Battle of Hoth (Great Galactic War) page, the battle itself cannot take place later than 3664 BBY as per page 84 of The Journal of Master Gnost-Dural. Please stop unnecessarily reverting my edits without getting your facts straight or bothering to check them in the first place. Bo Shuda (talk) 04:54, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- As it's my FA, I'd ask you to back off and actually do your research before you come in and unilaterally try to mess with status articles. If you look at the date for the entry in which the battle is mentioned—Chapter 8—it's two years after the Battle of Alderaan, and four and a half years before the entry on page 84. That's 3,665 BBY. Cade
Calrayn 04:57, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- There's no need to be rude. From page 84: "The Hydian Way blockade has effectively cut the lifeline of the Republic. Vital resources cannot be transported from the Outer Rim to the Core Worlds, and military supplies cannot be sent to help defend our installations in the Outer Rim. Three years ago, the Republic fleet might have made easy work of this Mandalorian armada, but not after its catastrophic losses in the Battle of Hoth." The Blockade of the Hydian Way takes begins in 3661 BBY. The text implies that three years ago (ie. 3664 BBY) the fleet would have been able to deal with the Mandos, but since then the Battle of Hoth occured. That means that the Battle of Hoth must take place within the three years prior to the blockade. Bo Shuda (talk) 05:07, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- And yet, as I've already explained, that is directly countered by the actual dates reflected on the pages of the book. There's really nothing to be done here; I'll add a BTS note, but it's staying at 3,665 BBY. As for the rudeness, I'm currently dealing with an unpleasant person in real life, and in my current attitude I did not take kindly to you coming in and making major changes to my status articles. Cade
Calrayn 05:11, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know what you are referring to as my copy of the book does not have any galactic standard calendar dates printed anywhere on it whatsoever. Where exactly is this notation printed on your copy? Bo Shuda (talk) 05:13, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- In light grey font at the top of several pages, such as the entry that starts Chapter 8. It's not Galactic Standard Notation; it's off by 25,043 years, but the dating is consistent when lined up with BBY dating. The entry that mentions the Battle of Hoth is dated 21378 while Alderaan (3,667 BBY) is dated 21376. In in-universe terms, Gnost-Dural rounded three and a half years down to three years. Cade
Calrayn 05:19, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- Nope, nothing like that on my copy. I had to import the collector's edition to get the journal. Is there more than one version of this book available? Was it ever available individually? Bo Shuda (talk) 05:23, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- No, I have the version that came with the collector's edition. Cade
Calrayn 05:24, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- While I appreciate the change to the BTS section, it may be worth noting the dates as specifically noted in the journal rather than the converted dates. To say/imply that it is dated in galactic standard calendar notation is incorrect. Bo Shuda (talk) 05:42, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- No, it isn't. The dates in the journal use a reverse order calendar counting forwards in time from the founding of the Republic, thought the journal mistakenly palaces that in 25,043 instead of the correct date of 25,053 as said in the Timelines. The dates for every other entry match up correctly with their pre-established dates when translated to the Journal's dating system; the entry that discusses the arrival of the empire is dated 14 years prior to the entry on the Battle of Alderraan. The dating system is valid. Cade
Calrayn 06:27, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- No, I think you've misunderstood. Your comments directed towards me and the way the Battle of Hoth article is now written reads as if the journal uses Galactic Standard Notation to depict dates. What I meant is that the BTS needs to acknowledge the dating system used by the journal, not your translated dates regardless of whether your translations are correct or not. Bo Shuda (talk) 06:54, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- And this'll be my last comment. Since we've established that the journal has now at least made two mistakes with regard to dating (the founding of the republic and the rounding surrounding the Battle of Hoth) would it not be best to append a "circa" to the date of 3665 BBY (therefore c.3,655 BBY) until we get a confirmed date from another source? Bo Shuda (talk) 07:07, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- Now that I'm fully awake, I see what you mean about the translation. However, I'm going to stick with the surefire dates. Cade
Calrayn 15:16, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- No, I think you've misunderstood. Your comments directed towards me and the way the Battle of Hoth article is now written reads as if the journal uses Galactic Standard Notation to depict dates. What I meant is that the BTS needs to acknowledge the dating system used by the journal, not your translated dates regardless of whether your translations are correct or not. Bo Shuda (talk) 06:54, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- No, it isn't. The dates in the journal use a reverse order calendar counting forwards in time from the founding of the Republic, thought the journal mistakenly palaces that in 25,043 instead of the correct date of 25,053 as said in the Timelines. The dates for every other entry match up correctly with their pre-established dates when translated to the Journal's dating system; the entry that discusses the arrival of the empire is dated 14 years prior to the entry on the Battle of Alderraan. The dating system is valid. Cade
- While I appreciate the change to the BTS section, it may be worth noting the dates as specifically noted in the journal rather than the converted dates. To say/imply that it is dated in galactic standard calendar notation is incorrect. Bo Shuda (talk) 05:42, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- No, I have the version that came with the collector's edition. Cade
- In light grey font at the top of several pages, such as the entry that starts Chapter 8. It's not Galactic Standard Notation; it's off by 25,043 years, but the dating is consistent when lined up with BBY dating. The entry that mentions the Battle of Hoth is dated 21378 while Alderaan (3,667 BBY) is dated 21376. In in-universe terms, Gnost-Dural rounded three and a half years down to three years. Cade
- I don't know what you are referring to as my copy of the book does not have any galactic standard calendar dates printed anywhere on it whatsoever. Where exactly is this notation printed on your copy? Bo Shuda (talk) 05:13, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- And yet, as I've already explained, that is directly countered by the actual dates reflected on the pages of the book. There's really nothing to be done here; I'll add a BTS note, but it's staying at 3,665 BBY. As for the rudeness, I'm currently dealing with an unpleasant person in real life, and in my current attitude I did not take kindly to you coming in and making major changes to my status articles. Cade
- There's no need to be rude. From page 84: "The Hydian Way blockade has effectively cut the lifeline of the Republic. Vital resources cannot be transported from the Outer Rim to the Core Worlds, and military supplies cannot be sent to help defend our installations in the Outer Rim. Three years ago, the Republic fleet might have made easy work of this Mandalorian armada, but not after its catastrophic losses in the Battle of Hoth." The Blockade of the Hydian Way takes begins in 3661 BBY. The text implies that three years ago (ie. 3664 BBY) the fleet would have been able to deal with the Mandos, but since then the Battle of Hoth occured. That means that the Battle of Hoth must take place within the three years prior to the blockade. Bo Shuda (talk) 05:07, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
Spacecraft and category names
Are you sure there should be "the" in the image category name for the Arkanian Legacy? Sure, the articles are used in writing, but after taking a quick look at our spacecraft image cats I couldn't spot a precedent for the use of "the" (e.g. "Images of Millennium Falcon," "Images of Executor" etc.). Is the Arkanian Legacy a special case, or is this something that should be addressed in regard to all the image cats created for a specific spaceship? Tinwe(comlink) 17:34, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
- It's been sort of creator's preference, I believe, but when writing articles we refer to the ships as the ship name, so we should probably have the categories match up with the established grammar rules. I've changed the categories that I've come across, and I'm intending to a full run through of the KOTOR image categories to fix all the redirects and incorrect issue naming, so I was likely going to do something about the Legacy. Cade
Calrayn 17:59, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
Codex
Any chance you could provide a screenshot of the updated codex for me to submit to customer support? I doubt I'm the only one this is affecting and is likely to cause edit conflicts in the future if this is the case. Also, do you know if anyone is keeping track of individual changes to the codex that aren't mentioned in the released patch notes? It'd be good if we could comprehensively acknowledge changes in the relevant BTS sections. Bo Shuda (talk) 01:38, October 24, 2013 (UTC)
Mission to the Justicars' Sector
Using Surnames
Hi, I'm curious as to why Wookieepedia always uses surnames. Bastila's last name is only mentioned once in the game. If you use Shan, it would be confusing. Also using a surname that is shared by others, such as Carth Onasi and Dustil Onasi, would be misleading. I just want to know why this wiki uses that policy because it doesn't make sense to me. I've seen a lot of wikis that refer to characters by their first names. Nicholasemjohnson (talk) 18:51, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Because we are an encyclopedia, and it's the professional thing to do. If there are more than one character with the same last name mentioned in the same area of an article, then we use first names, but only then. Cade
Calrayn 18:54, October 27, 2013 (UTC)
OF
'Grov the Destroyer' article typo
The article title for Grov the Destroyer has a typo. It's spelled as 'Grev' instead of 'Grov'. Rakhsh (talk) 18:29, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
I can confirm this via the in-game achievements. Rakhsh (talk) 06:35, November 4, 2013 (UTC)
Should I move the article to a page with the correct spelling? Rakhsh (talk) 22:17, November 4, 2013 (UTC)
WOTM
Hi Cade! I just wanted to post a little message to thank you for supporting my nomination for Wookieepedian of the Month. I couldn't be more grateful.--LennyF (talk) 16:05, November 1, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks.
I was wondering can I help on any articles, I would be honored to help50.158.189.212 00:31, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
Wookiepedoan of the month
Can I nominate you50.158.189.212 01:10, November 2, 2013 (UTC)
Sesfan
Hello Cade, I saw that the anon was blocked for adding fanon, and I'd have to look into his other edits, however it is indeed true that Sesfan appeared in RotJ, as I remember GG5 apparently gave him the movie quote, verifying his identity as that film Mon Cal. Not sure about the Lost Command stuff, as I don't have that myself. It would appear though, from looking at the German article, that stuff was also true, but it was not confirmed that he died from his disease. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:51, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
Lassicar
Apology
I am in a way sorry for alot that has happened in the last few days i had absolutely no clue the scope of the damage of that i wrought on you IFYLOFD and the rest of the IRC i am even more upset about the loss of TOR Wiki as an affiliate for Disney Wiki and Lucasfilm Wiki i will have to live with the shame of my impulsive actions with hardly any chance of reconciliation on my part. Byzantinefire 20:52, November 4, 2013 (UTC)
DS II
Hey Cade. The new Haynes manual is not just about the first Death Star. It provides information about everything Death Star-ish, from the two movie spheres to the Eye of Palpatine or the Tarkin. And I can confirm that it does revert the size of DS II back to kilometers. --LelalMekha (talk) 20:45, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
- You can see that chart for yourself. The figures aren't in here—they're elsewhere in the book—but at least you can see I'm not joking. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:11, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
- Ughh. But wait... That chart directly contradicts the statement that it's 160 km. Regardless, this is kind of ridiculous... Cade
Calrayn 21:13, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
- While I totally agree with you on the silliness of it all, why do you say the chart contradicts the figures? I didn't measure it all, but the scale looks okay to me. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:16, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
- Because the first Death Star is already 160 kilometers. Yet the chart shows the second station as being larger. Cade
Calrayn 21:17, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
- Ah! Let me explain, then. The size of DS I has also been reverted back to its former 120 km in diameters. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:20, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
- Because the first Death Star is already 160 kilometers. Yet the chart shows the second station as being larger. Cade
- While I totally agree with you on the silliness of it all, why do you say the chart contradicts the figures? I didn't measure it all, but the scale looks okay to me. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:16, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
- Ughh. But wait... That chart directly contradicts the statement that it's 160 km. Regardless, this is kind of ridiculous... Cade
Hero of Tython
Hi Cade, today I just played Jedi Knight mission from TOR and once I got my personal ship, I already have option to go assist Republic Fleet with codename Shield or go to Ord Mantell. Depends on ur choice. In ur nominating article u wrote it's after first travel to Ord Mantell and after mission to Imp. secret underground facility and later capturing of Kira Carsen. Thought I'd just let u know. Cheers and keep up good work. --Jedi Marty (talk) 03:46, November 9, 2013 (UTC)
Biographical novels in Timeline of books
Hello there!!
I saw you undid the modifications I did on the Timeline of books page. I thought I'd do with those 3 biographical books (Obi-Wan's, Vader's and Luke's) what was done with "The Wrath of Darth Maul" in that page. Most of the events on that book are flashbacks. But the "present" event (Maul remembering all that during his exile in Lotho Minor) takes place in 21 BBY, hence the "(51 BBY–32 BBY in flashbacks)" line. I've been doing some modifications so the Wookieepedia timeline agrees more with the one established on the Essential Reader's Companion. Let me know if you agree so we can change it.
--Darthktulu (talk) 02:37, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
EC Meeting 5
Greetings, EduCorps Meeting 5 is scheduled for Saturday, November 16th at 7 PM ET. If you are unable to attend, please leave notes on the meeting page on how the articles under review should be handled. (If you are not an EC-only member and wish to stop receiving EC meeting notifications, please leave a message on my talk page.)--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 05:58, November 11, 2013 (UTC)
Shanatka-YOLO
Ord Mantell
Cade, what source gives 11,884 BBY as the date for the colonization of Ord Mantell, and why did you remove the Dark Force Rising Sourcebook reference? That makes it look like the entire paragraph if sourced to Threats of the Galaxy, which is misleading since the book doesn't contain all of the information in that section. Werdoland (talk) 23:04, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
RE: 4350 BBY
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. It has since been corrected to reflect accurate information. I would ask that in the future, when adding {{Fact}} tags, you include that you have done so in your edit summary, so that it is immediately brought to the attention of the community at large.—Tommy 9281 Friday, November 15, 2013, 04:55 UTC
- The information you found falls under the {{Sofixit}} rule. Although I will handle it (no further action is required on your part), you are more than capable of doing so yourself, and rather than add update tags, etc, you should consider taking such initiative in the future.—Tommy 9281 Friday, November 15, 2013, 05:02 UTC
Jedaii=-Rakata war
I get the comic early as I review it for Jedi new.s Just trust me.Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 23:16, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
Beedo
You have removed content from the Beedo page regarding Marolyn Turk playing the character citing unverified content. Not sure if these qualify as verified or not:
facebook.com/SciFiSignersUnited
"Marolyn Turk who portrayed 'Beedo' in Star Wars - Return of the Jedi will be attending the Memorabilia Birmingham show as a guest signer Nov. 23-24, 2013"
celebrityink.eu/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=3101
"MAROLYN TURK as Beedo - Star Wars: Episode VI - Return Of The Jedi"
aveleyman.com/ActorCredit.aspx?ActorID=77116
"Star Wars Episode VI: Return Of The Jedi - Beedo - 1983"
forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/showphoto.php/photo/125235/title/turk-signing/cat/500
Turk Signing Beedo photographs
Revert
- Is there a reason you reverted the edits to Matukai? I was fixing the italics of a book name that should be italicized. Atarumaster88 (Talk page) 04:34, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
Lew Brell
The grammar and spelling were both actually improved by my edits. The quality of the article was improved immensely by them. Please read the version before my edits carefully and then make a judgement. The quality of the article before my edits was in dire need of a cleanup. I do not see how its current condition is acceptable. --Gnarscien (talk) 06:18, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- I wanted to apologize if you felt I was in any way disrespectful during our dispute over this, or that I was edit warring. I have settled for simply making corrections to the article's spelling and punctuation without removing anything. I still feel it needs a great deal more work, but I realize that feeling is not mutual. --Gnarscien (talk) 08:42, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- No reason to break up the paragraphs? What about for ease of reading? Typically, overly large paragraphs are discouraged, as they simply become "walls of text". Those paragraphs were far too large and did not separate the information into logical chunks. --Gnarscien (talk) 22:55, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- Again, you're assuming that you know the site's standards. Paragraphs of that length are more than fine; they're the standard for most articles. Cade
Calrayn 22:56, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- If you say so. --Gnarscien (talk) 22:58, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- Where it begins "In the year 3643...", a new paragraph should begin, as it brings up an entirely new time period in his life. --Gnarscien (talk) 23:00, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- No, because then we'd have a dozen single-sentence paragraphs. There's no need or reason to break up paragraphs like that. Cade
Calrayn 23:02, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- "A dozen single-sentence paragraphs?" No, just one additional paragraph. It is standard writing convention to begin a new paragraph when starting a new subject. What does it detract from the article that that one paragraph is split in two? --Gnarscien (talk) 23:07, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- Again, you're assuming that you know the site's standards. Paragraphs of that length are more than fine; they're the standard for most articles. Cade
- No reason to break up the paragraphs? What about for ease of reading? Typically, overly large paragraphs are discouraged, as they simply become "walls of text". Those paragraphs were far too large and did not separate the information into logical chunks. --Gnarscien (talk) 22:55, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
My Sandbox Timeline
Hey Cade, just letting you know that you don't need to update my Sandbox Timeline anymore. I merged the format changes a while back, and now I copy the current page over to my sandbox anytime I want to test a change. Tainb'ocu'chulainn (talk) 19:21, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
Double redirects
Hey Cade. When you're moving or redirecting an article, please make sure to check its corresponding "What links here" page to see if there are any double redirects that should be changed, as for Unidentified Rakata fighter. It'll save time for others and also depopulate the Double Redirects page. Thanks. CC7567 (talk) 17:00, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, and I'll be sure to check that from now on. Cade
Calrayn 21:58, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
Hutt Cartel affiliation
While I mostly agree with the edits you're making to the characters with Template:Hutt Cartel character infobox, shouldn't the employees of Jabba and other Hutts that are confirmed to be affiliated also be considered affiliated and thus keep their Cartel infoboxes? Calk Fen, for instance? --Gnarscien (talk) 23:47, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
Question
Can I get the Welcome anon post please75.34.192.144 21:53, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
Nonstandard years
Hi Cade! First of all, great work automatizing {{Year}}. The issue is, though, that status articles about nonstandard years like 45-x-920p and 2-237-93 (see others) are messed up as a result. Could you kindly have a look into that? Cheers. Stake black msg 17:08, November 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Nice! Thanks. Stake black msg 20:45, November 23, 2013 (UTC)
Re: Despot War
Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi: Force Storm 1 does not give a definitive date for the start of the Despot War. While I agree that the issue does give a definitive end date of 25,805 BBY, the start date is still ambiguous. Please explain your revert. Bo Shuda (talk) 03:20, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Can you explain your latest edit also? Where exactly in the novel does it state this? Bo Shuda (talk) 03:24, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
- I refuse to be goaded into another edit war with you so can you please explain your edits? I do not wish to have to take this any further. Bo Shuda (talk) 03:27, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Numerous places, including Queen Hadiya's quote in 25,805 where she is inciting the Settled Worlds against the Je'daii, place the beginning of the war in that year. Cade
Calrayn 03:35, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you. But next time please include some form of descriptive note in the edit summary that explains your reasoning or provide a response on the users talk page. This is not the first time that you have caused conflict due to this trend. Bo Shuda (talk) 03:44, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
- There is no need for that snide comment in the edit summary either. There was no need to make this personal. Backtracking your edit simply to avoid a "spectacle" rather than aspiring to provide accurate and well-informed information comes across that you're editing/reverting in a purely combative nature and/or taking a "your word against mine approach" rather than showing some restraint and valuing what others may have to offer. I hope you reflect on this as I, along with many others, only wish to improve the accuracy of the Wook. Bo Shuda (talk) 05:15, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you. But next time please include some form of descriptive note in the edit summary that explains your reasoning or provide a response on the users talk page. This is not the first time that you have caused conflict due to this trend. Bo Shuda (talk) 03:44, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Numerous places, including Queen Hadiya's quote in 25,805 where she is inciting the Settled Worlds against the Je'daii, place the beginning of the war in that year. Cade
- I refuse to be goaded into another edit war with you so can you please explain your edits? I do not wish to have to take this any further. Bo Shuda (talk) 03:27, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
?? bold link
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_III:_Soresu it is the same as here???, --Marco 1907 (talk) 14:33, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Hi there. It really shouldn't, and if I wasn't on a phone at the moment, I'd remove it. It's common practice to not link in bolded text for alternate names. Cade
Calrayn 14:36, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
Military Ranks
Why can't the different clone trooper ranks be kept on the Military Ranks page? It's useless to just have the highest rank in different militaries put on the military ranks page. The whole point is to have all the ranks. If there is a good reason for eliminating all the ranks below supreme commander, then why aren't the ranks during the Jedi civil war eliminated? I believe ideally all the ranks for all the different militaries should be added. People visiting the Military Rank page are probably looking for chain of command stuff. Everyone knows the Supreme Chancellor is completely in command of the Republic Military, so it's far more beneficial to include the ranks below.
76.18.4.243 14:48, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
Lifespans
Why are you reverting my edits? Purpilia (talk) 03:50, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
- Because, as you've been told before, that's not how the lifespan field is used. It's for the life expectancy. Cade
Calrayn 03:52, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
- The why is it called life span? Doesn't the information I added speak to that. I mean, its viable information that deals with ages of the species.Purpilia (talk) 03:55, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
- Then it belongs in the body, not the infobox. "Lifespan" is defined as the length of time that something is alive - the life expectancy - not what you've been adding. Cade
Calrayn 03:58, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
- But that isn't what either of those terms mean. The differences between life span and life expectancy are way above what we normally catalog here. Life expectancy is an average, while life span is the greatest age ever to be reached. Isn't including the information the UAA provide a more encyclopedic approach that gives reader a more accurate picture of the species' age and more worthy of infobox placement then the oldest age ever reached or an average?Purpilia (talk) 04:02, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
- No, because it's inordinate amounts of info that don't belong in the infobox. Five or six bullets on average is too much for a field; that info belongs in the body, and "lifespan" is just the variable name used in the template - the documentation identifies it as life expectancy, and that is how it is treated in status articles and other species articles. Cade
Calrayn 04:07, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
- No, because it's inordinate amounts of info that don't belong in the infobox. Five or six bullets on average is too much for a field; that info belongs in the body, and "lifespan" is just the variable name used in the template - the documentation identifies it as life expectancy, and that is how it is treated in status articles and other species articles. Cade
- Then it belongs in the body, not the infobox. "Lifespan" is defined as the length of time that something is alive - the life expectancy - not what you've been adding. Cade
Pernicar
I just re-added that paragraph to the bts as it is necessary to explain the discrepancies between the two sources. Bo Shuda (talk) 01:59, December 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Also, as per my comment and the edit summary. Pernicar's article may need a severe overhaul to satisfy featured status as it currently does an inadequate job of explaining the inconsistencies/chronological discrepancies surrounding events before and after Pernicar's death in both sources. Is there a template that can be placed on individual pages to state that articles need a review? Bo Shuda (talk) 02:04, December 3, 2013 (UTC)
Template
The template is there as a warning to future editors. The fact is that Pernicar exists in two sources that conflict. The template's purpose is to warn future editors that the two sources have conflicting information and that they need to check these sources before making edits. While you believe that the article itself does not conflict with itself the fact is that there are numerous events in the novel and comic that do conflict surrounding his death and have impact on the chronological flow of events. The article somehow past review with numerous errors related to the battles that were never even identified correctly which makes me question the accuracy of this article altogether. The article could benefit from an entire rewrite. If you do not replace the template I will be forced to take it to the forums which I'd like to avoid. Bo Shuda (talk) 04:08, December 3, 2013 (UTC)
- I've readded the template after discussion with other users, as the conversation between Hoth and Farfalla about Pernicar differs. However, I'd strongly advise you to drop your hostile attitude, and if you have a problem with the article, then please don't complain to me—take it up with the actual author. Cade
Calrayn 05:37, December 3, 2013 (UTC)
Asajj
Hello Cade, I am hear to talk to you about the Asajj Ventress article, and for my reasons for editing the species information, though the clone wars series said she was a dathomirian, the species that she belongs to is still debatable, though the series was cancelled before explaining it, it could be possible that Mother Talzin lied to her, the same way she lied to maul and savage to make the believe they're brothers, ultimately weakening maul, so the memories given by Talzin could of been one of her tricks, due to the fact that she was even able to convince Ventress that she was dead. Gdude00 (talk) 04:40, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
- It's called a retcon. The Clone Wars frequently disregarded and overwrote previous continuity, and the source for her species didn't come from Talzin. Cade
Calrayn 05:02, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
- If only I had some pull in the producers.--Mike Gilbert 19:15, January 1, 2014 (UTC)
Sorry
Sorry not posting in the correct place I thought I was.--IG Series (talk) 20:43, December 8, 2013 (UTC)IG Series
RE: Weapons
Sorry to add to the TOR workload, it was already beyond the scale of anything else here on the Wook with you taking in on a crazy portion of it. I'll continue to help however I can as I slowly progress through the game, I have a fair few character screen shots although a lot could probably be from better angels, as well as a growing supply of weapons. Thanks for the list it's going to make working out what to add and what to scrap a lot easier! Still, getting pictures of all of these could take years, although know that some day if this ever gets done I might return to the terrifying world of TOR's armor and clothing.... Ayrehead02 (talk) 01:32, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
Edit Revert
Why'd you revert my edit. Please reply to me promptly. --173.150.235.115 22:04, December 14, 2013 (UTC)
First Battle of Bothawui info
Hey Cade, I see that the First Battle of Bothawui has been given a name and some new info via Galactic Starfighter. I won't have access to the game for a bit, so I was wondering if you could leave an outline of the pertinent information on my talk page or via email. If the information is too extensive then feel free to say no; I'll be able to find it all myself in time. I'm only asking to get it updated as soon as possible. Many thanks, Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 20:18, December 17, 2013 (UTC)
Rikdine Don't Lose That Number
First experience
Just downloaded SWTOR. Combat's difficult and I want to see holograms and introduction movies. Can you please give me pointers?--Mike Gilbert 22:21, December 24, 2013 (UTC)
The Hero
- Well well well...just wanted to congratulate you for this triumph. It's an article that I've been accompanying since early and I'm glad you succeeded in getting it to FA. Good work, silly texan. Winterz (talk) 04:35, December 26, 2013 (UTC)
Flatcake
Resettlement Zone lab
Image
I was going to add a concept art image from one of the video commentaries on the Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season Five discs, but I don't know what the licensing is that I would put on the information box. Can you help me?KyranEllis (talk) 14:43, January 2, 2014 (UTC)KyranEllisKyranEllis (talk) 14:43, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
- Television screenshot, as it's from the TV series' Blu-ray. However, as Special:Upload's wonky at the moment, it's easier to simply upload an image with the licensing and fill out the information manually after the image has been uploaded. Cade
Calrayn 15:06, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
Hello Cade i would like to inform you the my article was in fact not fanon as it was deleted for i would like you to know i found a mention to Zada Markul in a star wars novel and used the internet to find more information leading me to have as much as i needed to make the article. So if you could review it again and let me know why you believe it is fanon. I am also aware some of the pieces of my article may be incorrect and fan fiction of another star wars fan i had very little part in reality of making this article i simply used what little i found and compiled it into an article.
Manofwar53 (talk) 00:37, January 3, 2014 (UTC)Manofwar53
Combat Cloud Car
Why the revert? The source clearly refers to them as a distinct category of air vehicles of which several different designs are manufactured, including the Talon I. Victor321 (talk) 16:12, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
- Present-tense un-Wookified info and potentially unsourced; it's been validated, but the capitalization of cloud car was unnecessary. The content's been moved to the correct page. Cade
Calrayn 16:21, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
RE: "we are not a forum"
Exactly. You're a site run by cynical, progress-fearing non-wikians who are scared to try new things. You don't even have the old visual editor for heaven's sake, never mind the new one! No offense meant, just pointing out that IMO, other wikis of smaller size that cover topics as expansive as this wiki's topic *Cough*Warhammer 40K wiki*Cough*Lord of the Rings wiki*Cough are growing extremely rapidly compared to this wiki when it was at a similar stage. Therefore I can only conclude that if you were to enable new available features this wiki would not suffer, it would in fact prosper. Slug out. --The flesh is weak, it shall be purged, until only Iron remains! 16:20, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
- We're most definitely not "scared" to try new things; we just see that they're not worth having, and Wikia has screwed use over enough times so that we inherently distrust their changes. We're certainly not suffering; we're still prospering far beyond any other wiki. Wikis are meant to be encyclopedias, not Facebook-esque social sites, and your idea of "growth" isn't an increase in quality or size; we still are far more active and higher quality than other wikis. It's your opinion to think otherwise, but keep those opinions off the talk pages, as the {{Talkheader}} specifically states that talk pages are for discussion of changes to the articles—the actual point of an encyclopedia. Cade
Calrayn 16:25, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
Satele
Hi Cade, I just thought that this might be of interest to you in relation to your Satele Shan nomination. --Jinzler (talk) 20:18, January 4, 2014 (UTC)
Re: The Old Republic
Hello, Cade, and thank you for the cookie. You have been doing amazing work as well, I already found both the page you linked as well as some others through the "What links here" feature and they have been extremely useful. As for the articles you removed (like Minder Seventeen), I created them because there are many other alias articles on Wookieepedia, such as Arica, so I thought it would be okay. It's been hard to keep track of all those Minders and Watchers without fake ones, you know. --End0 da Baker (talk) 16:38, January 5, 2014 (UTC)
- What template to use instead of Dialogue then? --End0 da Baker (talk) 16:59, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. I'm still new to much of this. --End0 da Baker (talk) 17:03, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
Dates for the Sith Warrior
Hey Cade! Since I'd like to nom the Beast of Marka Ragnos for the Barn Burner some time soon, I'd like to know whether it's possible to pin down a date for Act 1 of the Sith Warrior storyline. --LelalMekha (talk) 16:29, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
- c. 3643 BBY would be the best estimate we've got at the moment. The Republic sides are more confirmed in Act I; {{TOR dates}} can be used in the reference. Cade
Calrayn 16:31, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. So I take it I should source that statement ("c. 3643 BBY")to the game itself? --LelalMekha (talk) 19:32, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
Yavin roster
Just wanted to comment on removing that pilot roster from the Battle of Yavin page. I'm guessing it's a rule that a plain list of participants shouldn't be included? To me, the real reason to have that list there is a lot of people tend to be very interested in that list of pilots and possible pilots at Yavin. The brief section of listed pilots in the Guide to Warfare generated more interest than a lot of the book. And it's actually a nice bit of information to have out there for readers and writers. I'd say if exceptions can be made, this is one good case for it. --JMM (talk) 19:27, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
- ...and there's a lot more info than just participants and deaths in the other removed sections. Including those who fled the scene, etc. Not trying to be a pain, but it just seems strange to me to chop up an article about such a huge SW event. --JMM (talk) 20:05, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
- That's what the prose sections are for. Why on earth would we list every person who participated, died, or survived in every single battle? The lists would be endless, and they look terrible; we have a Layout Guide for a reason. Information should be include in the prose, not in lists. Cade
Calrayn 20:16, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
- I realize it could get messy if that was included in every battle page. I was just saying maybe an exception for that major battle can be made, like it has been for years now. I suppose that could just encourage people to start putting it on every page, but again, it doesn't seem to have happened for all this time. I can see the point with the roster, though I would say that at least the longer section that was taken out could easily be rewritten to not be a simple list. --JMM (talk) 21:01, January 6, 2014 (UTC)
- Just FYI, one of the admins contacted me to let me know they'd decided to allow the pilot lists to stay. I did however edit the casualties/survivors section to be prose because there's really no reason for that to be a list. --JMM (talk) 16:57, January 7, 2014 (UTC)
- That's what the prose sections are for. Why on earth would we list every person who participated, died, or survived in every single battle? The lists would be endless, and they look terrible; we have a Layout Guide for a reason. Information should be include in the prose, not in lists. Cade
Copying
- Um I'm not copying them as is. Its the only source about the starships other than physical descriptions. How else would you parse that information? Razzy1319 (talk) 19:56, January 9, 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, missed some of the categories. but dont know how Im making those blank lines Razzy1319 (talk) 21:07, January 9, 2014 (UTC)
Image Warning
- About to upload around 55 images of speeders from Star Wars: The Old Republic. Just informing you guys Razzy1319 (talk) 17:01, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
Brought to you by PepsiCo
Well....
I remember reading it years ago, I don't know the exact page sorry. If you want to delete it, then do so.Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 00:40, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
Image Policy on...
- grabbing screenshots from the official swtor website? Razzy1319 (talk) 23:15, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Don't worry, its just easier to upload them together rather than 1 at a time Razzy1319 (talk) 00:32, January 12, 2014 (UTC)
- Uggh, Thanks! lol. Razzy1319 (talk) 17:01, January 12, 2014 (UTC)
- Thought they didnt have articles yet, put the subtitles in to remind me of their lore Razzy1319 (talk) 03:36, January 13, 2014 (UTC)
- Whats the policy on direct copying from the codex? I see some articles that looks like they were copy pasted from the game codex. Razzy1319 (talk) 17:26, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
Iridonians
Eeth Koth was an Iridonian and a member of the Jedi High Council during the Clone Wars. He should be listed under notable Iridonians --JesseStarfall (talk) 04:41, January 12, 2014 (UTC)
Okay Eeth Koth was from Nar Shadaa but his species is Iridonian Zabrak. I suppose you would be right though it could kind've go either way --JesseStarfall (talk) 05:29, January 12, 2014 (UTC)
Cookie for Cadegorization
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- Dat cookie. * Winterz takes a bite without Cade noticing * ... nomnomnomnom..ah yes, good work! Winterz (talk) 18:11, January 13, 2014 (UTC)
The LFC template
I appreciate your point of view on the usage LFC template, however it has been in widespread use on Wookieepedia for several years in relation to Living Force articles, including several of status. I'm not sure that you can just unilaterally remove it from articles without any community discussion just because you don't like it. The article in question where you have removed the template was approved as a Comprehensive Article with the template in place and I plan to revert your edits for now until such a time that greater community discussion is given on the matter. At the moment this is just your opinion against mine and I am of the impression that on this wiki in such situations it is better to just go with the established practice until consensus can be reached that the new way is better. Thanks. --Jinzler (talk) 18:31, January 13, 2014 (UTC)
Tal Nami TOR
Hi Cade I see you've put an update tag on Tal Nami, could you tell me where in the game they appear? I assume it's a codex entry or a mention in convo? Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:38, January 17, 2014 (UTC)
- Check underneath the update. I've got the crew skill mission text hidden. Cade
Calrayn 18:40, January 17, 2014 (UTC)
- Ah thanks I missed that! Updated now, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could take a quick look and tell me if I've misunderstood anything. I'm also not sure if a game mechanics tag is required for the crafting missions? Thanks also for the heads up about picture uploads the new system threw me off slightly. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:01, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
EduCorps Meeting 8
EduCorps Meeting 8 will be held on February 8th at 7 PM ET. Don't be afraid of the smile.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 00:56, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
Ackbar
I don't want to start an edit war or anything like that but it states that he was 73 when he died and the year was 29 ABY. If you do the math he would be born in the year of 44 BBY. Wetro 04:16, January 25, 2014 (UTC)
Then may you add the source whatever it maybe? I am not good with adding sources. Wetro 04:27, January 25, 2014 (UTC)
- Wookieepedia is not a source. The information in the article is unsourced and cannot be used as a source unless you can find it in an officially licensed source. You've been warned before. Cade
Calrayn 04:29, January 25, 2014 (UTC)
Edit summaries
Hello Cade,
Please utilize edit summaries when making changes to pages. This gives editors a brief explanation of why actions were taken, and helps to minimize confusion thereby. This is also something that has been asked of you on several different occasions, both on your talk page and via IRC. If you have any questions or concerns regarding this, feel free to contact me. Thanks,—Tommy 9281 Sunday, January 26, 2014, 23:59 UTC
Marvel Comic
Well honestly i did not think that through but the image is of higher quality and Marvel will be mentioned here more often in the next few months. Byzantinefire 01:41, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
Droid Category
Well i did not know what to categorize it as i did not have much time. Byzantinefire 21:00, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
- But i wanted to make it and i was having at the same time and also made 3 versions of it on 3 different wiki's. Byzantinefire 21:05, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
Ifd
Cade, I've already told you twice eariler today: Please use {{Ifd}} and not the CSD tag when tagging images. Thank you for your cooperation, JangFett (Talk) 23:41, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
Never mind the gap
Hi Cade. I switched templates because the one MJ created needlessly forbids users from opting for vertical or horizontal layouts. It's also a bit more complete, which makes it more functional. It seems pointless to have both templates around. Cheers. Stake black msg 00:00, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
- First off, you didn't receive any community approval to do such a thing; secondly, the template is unnecessary. There's honestly no reason an article should ever have images paired next to each other vertically like you tried to do on Orto Plutonia—that's tantamount to a gallery, and entirely against the policy of images supporting text. Cade
Calrayn 00:04, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
- Hey. Please don't feel offended, I'm only aiming to improve the wiki, same as anyone else. How often are templates discussed in advance before creation, though? Did MJ start a discussion prior to creating Template:Double image? I really don't see how this is disruptive in any way, and I'd be hard-pressed to say two images seriously constitute a gallery. This new template provides more funcionality, I honestly don't see how that would be harmful. Stake black msg 00:15, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
- As ecks has said, there's no reason for a double-image or multi-image template to be used anywhere other than the Jedi Credit article. When you're trying to create a template that essentially violates the site's ban on galleries, it needs to be discussed by the community first. Cade
Calrayn 00:19, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
- Honestly, he has a point regarding MJ's creation of the double image template. Let's take this to a SH and discuss the templates. JangFett (Talk) 00:23, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm creating a thread on the SH. Stake black msg 00:36, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
- Honestly, he has a point regarding MJ's creation of the double image template. Let's take this to a SH and discuss the templates. JangFett (Talk) 00:23, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
- As ecks has said, there's no reason for a double-image or multi-image template to be used anywhere other than the Jedi Credit article. When you're trying to create a template that essentially violates the site's ban on galleries, it needs to be discussed by the community first. Cade
- Hey. Please don't feel offended, I'm only aiming to improve the wiki, same as anyone else. How often are templates discussed in advance before creation, though? Did MJ start a discussion prior to creating Template:Double image? I really don't see how this is disruptive in any way, and I'd be hard-pressed to say two images seriously constitute a gallery. This new template provides more funcionality, I honestly don't see how that would be harmful. Stake black msg 00:15, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
Warning
Hello Cade,
You have a habit of repeatedly ignoring reasonable administrative requests to follow very simple practices here on Wookieepedia. Furthermore, your talk page etiquette is combative, offensive, and oftentimes outright rude. While you contribute greatly and much of what you do is appreciated, to behave as though you are doing Wookieepedia a favor by being here is unacceptable. A seasoned contributor such as yourself should be setting a positive example, not being rude and borderline disrespectful to other users and members of the administration or operating around here as though you have a chip on your shoulder. Consider this therefore your official warning to curb your negative and counterproductive behavior here, something which as of late outshines your more beneficial contributions. Failure to abide this warning will most assuredly result in a block from editing. Thank you.—Tommy 9281 Tuesday, January 28, 2014, 01:07 UTC
Crawls
Force Kick.
Hi.
Since you're a player in the MMORPG Star Wars: The Old Republic, can you post a video of either the sequence or the description of the Force Kick? We kinda need either of them for the Force Kick article to see if it is applicable for the article if we're going to note Dooku, Anakin Skywalker, Luke Skywalker, and Obi-Wan Kenobi's usage of the ability in some way besides BTS material. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 23:17, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
Meteor temp page
- just wondering if its ok for me to copy your format for the meteor temp project onto my own sub user page? I will be going through some of the story and gonna scan for possible articles. Razzy1319 (talk) 05:14, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the cleanup, was gonna do that once I was finished but always better to have a more experienced hand. :D Razzy1319 (talk) 07:20, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
TOR stuff
- Anti-toxin
- Bacta tank
- Bondite
- Ceraglass
- Chrysopaz
- Fibermesh
- Jukebox
- Lacquerous
- Neuro-stimulator
- Prismatic crystal
- Resinite
- Shimmersilk
- Wind crystal
ROTHC
- Beryllius
- Carbonic crystal
- Corundum
- Frasium
- Hollinium
- Hypercloth
- Permacrete
- Rainbow gem
- Transparisteel
- Tricopper
Other notes
- Turadium should be ROTHC
- These appeared
- Bacta
- Terenthium
- Zeyd-cloth
Here you go.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 00:22, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
- Just as a note: an article exists at Wind-crystal and Lacquerous should be spelled "Lacqerous"--Exiled Jedi
(Greetings) 00:44, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
The Evasive Dire-cat
I was pointed in your direction for SWTOR related stuff. Judging by your User Page, I'm going to guess you're the correct start. ;) Anyways, I'm looking for the context on Dire-cats in SWTOR for the barn burner on Creatures. According to the older incarnation of the page before I started my romp through it they are (Mentioned only). I'm guessing it's a codex entry or a character mentions it in passing. I'm guessing they don't actually appear in person/animal. Think you can help me out (When you can, of course)? --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 19:29, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
- Heya. While it's surprising that they don't appear in Coronet or even the Coronet Zoo, they are mentioned once, by Vette in the Sith Warrior storyline on Korriban: (after being shocked) "Ow! Jerk. If you don't like that, just say so. I can do other animals, too. Dire-cat, frog-dog, Kowakian monkey-lizard, you name it." That's it. Cade
Calrayn 20:12, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
- What does he mean by that? I'm afraid I missed the context. Does he mean that he can, imitate other animals? Overall, I guess it isn't too substantial, but it can make a nice quote for the page. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 18:28, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
Ah, sorry about that. Vette is a slave in a cage, and here's the full transcript. 18:30, February 6, 2014 (UTC)
- Jailer Knash: "One more chirp from you, little bird, and you'll regret it."
- Vette: "Chirp. Chirp, chirp."
- Knash: "Hrmph. I warned you."
- Vette: "Ow! Jerk. If you don't like that, just say so. I can do other animals, too. Dire-cat, frog-dog, Kowakian monkey-lizard, you name it."
- ―Knash and Vette[src]
Ah, okay. That's useful then, implying Vette was telling the truth. Thank you! --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 19:59, February 9, 2014 (UTC)
CSM
Fan sites CT
The TC on the List of fan sites article has been moved to a Consensus track thread due to being mentioned in a policy. Feel free to adjust your vote according to the new points and options introduced. MasterFred(Whatever) 17:13, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
Boobs
Hello, I am just wondering, why is it that this wiki is so attached to the page I have been trying to recreate modestly? Please tell. —Unsigned comment by Anniecpw3 (talk • contribs)
Modification Rejection
Why is it that the page I have been trying to modify for modesty's sake is being changed back by you? It would be more modest to take out the picture of Secura.
Why have you kept changing the page I have been taking time to retain modesty on this site by changing? Anniecpw3 (talk) 21:53, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
Project: Codex part 3
Hey Cade I started writing up some of the crew skills missions from TOR today but then remembered that you have them included in your project. Is it ok if I write them and nominate them? I just wanted to make sure you didn't have them all ready on some workbench or something which would mean I'd wasted your time. So far I've done Prince of Waves, Darth Perash, the Junk Armada and the Keres II mining outpost as well as some other related pages. Ayrehead02 (talk) 17:55, February 8, 2014 (UTC)
- I guess, but I'd strongly recommend you stop nominating CANs for the moment. You have 16 already, and they're moving rather slowly, so it's better to wait until that number drops significantly. Cade
Calrayn 17:58, February 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Oh I wasn't planning on nominating them now you're right I have way too much on the CAN page as it is. For now I was just going to start creating the articles. If you'd rather I didn't do the crew skills articles though it's fine I have plenty of other things I can do. I know the TOR project is important to you and understand why you'd want to see it all through yourself. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:17, February 8, 2014 (UTC)
Wisties and SWTOR
Hi Cade! I just saw that you added a "mentioned only" SWTOR appearance to the Wistie article. Could you tell me more about that? --LelalMekha (talk) 01:36, February 9, 2014 (UTC)
- "Yes! I had time alone, free from my tribe. I listened to no voices but mine and the Wisties in the trees."
- ―Treek
That's it. Cade Calrayn 01:37, February 9, 2014 (UTC)
- Well that's... not much. :-p But I can use it in the article at least. Thanks! --LelalMekha (talk) 01:40, February 9, 2014 (UTC)
Hanar-Ye
Inq meeting scheduling
Yo Cade, please make sure to schedule an Inqmoot within the next few weeks so that we don't have another ridiculous four-month gap between meetings. Thanks. CC7567 (talk) 18:00, February 10, 2014 (UTC)
D-FENS
Okay I won't change anymore, but I still think it's very odd because everybody can fill in their own storyline... Dbrill (talk) 23:48, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
OOU LG amendment
Hey Cade, this is what I meant regarding your CT to incorporate TV series/seasons into the OOU Layout Guide. I took some additional input from Toprawa—the main changes (some of which are bolded) are revising "Published narrative works" to "Print and media narrative works" (since we're talking about both printed and televised sources now), adding "TV shows" to the list at the beginning of this Layout Guide, turning the "Media" section into a bulleted list, and finally adding the two sentences that your current CT is proposing. I think this would be worth proposing instead of what's currently in the CT since the bulleted list makes it clearer. Let me know if you have any questions/comments. CC7567 (talk) 16:48, February 13, 2014 (UTC)
Czerka
Greetings, Cade Calrayn I love Star Wars and I think that this wiki is the best place out there to find info about Star Wars King Katuunko (talk) 15:56, February 15, 2014 (UTC)
SW-wikis
The mn.starwars.wikia.com and sk.starwars.wikia.com are NOT mine (I'm not an creator/admin of them)! So, tell me: why did you delete interwikis from this article? Darth Plagueis "Mądry" - Hego Damask 17:15, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure why you're so obsessed with this single article, but we gain absolutely nothing from linking to a wiki that has one page with two sentences of gibberish that your created. Similarly, the sk wiki is a virtually non-existent wiki, with you adding a few sentences of gibberish to an article (one of eight on that site) just for the purpose of having numerous interwiki links. Cade
Calrayn 17:21, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
Removing image
Is there a reason for the removal of this image from the Mandalorian article and this cropped version? Alexrd (talk) 19:46, February 21, 2014 (UTC)
- It's not necessary to include the image that it was cropped from, and hiding images in the bottoms of scroll boxes just to save them from deletion is frowned upon. The image is unnecessary, as Sabine's article is far too short, and if it's ever needed, it can be reuploaded. Cade
Calrayn 20:59, February 21, 2014 (UTC)
Naja
Most powerful mention.
Hi.
Can we at least note he was the most powerful at the time of his defeat? We've already got two Codex and his entry in the encyclopedia that stated it, so that is official, professional information. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:04, February 25, 2014 (UTC)
Twofer
Reversion to AG-37
Hey, Cade. I was just wondering what your reasoning was behind reverting this edit. Thanks.—Cal Jedi (Personal Comm Channel) 22:50, February 28, 2014 (UTC)
- It's in the latest comic. It just needs to be properly sourced. I don't have the issue with me but I can take care of it later. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 22:57, February 28, 2014 (UTC)
Star Wars new magazine
Hi. You edited my page but this other guy added a vertify tag. I can't add the link but if you go to TFAW.com, (thats Things from another world website) it has a page their advertising the upcoming product. Cool, have a nice day.149.4.42.93 17:36, March 3, 2014 (UTC)
Commandos
Excuse me but could you move the commandos of Delta to their Imperial designations. For example: IC-1138 instead of Rc-1138. Please reply on my talk page. Thanks --73.50.153.53 00:38, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
You also have done so
| User warning: Three-Revert Rule.
You have come close to violating, or have already violated, the Three-Revert Rule. If you continue to edit-war, an administrator will block you from editing. Please reconsider your approach, and pay attention to the advice others provide.121.222.217.231 03:26, March 7, 2014 (UTC) |
Your edits were unhelpful as they removed relevant information from the template. 121.222.217.231 03:26, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
- Not really. Just because those comics are set in the same time period does not mean they belong on the Dark Empire template. Cade
Calrayn 03:30, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
Hi Cade hope I'm leaving this message in the right place but I emailed you at [redacted] when you have time, my address is [redacted]
Thanks! - Jared
Raid
Manari
Hello. As our expert on TOR, I was wondering if you know where and when Manari is mentioned in the game? I plan wrapping up one or two small articles related to it and it would be nice if I could write the planet as well. Clone Commander Lee Talk 13:41, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
- Knife's Edge Politics
- Dealing with the rigid, tradition-bound leaders of Manari is a delicate operation. Have your companion open talks with them without violating their political etiquette.
- <<1>> walked the fine line of etiquette perfectly, and the leaders of Manari were impressed at a foreigner's dedication to their ways.
- That's it. Just a Diplomacy crewskill mission. Cade
Calrayn
- Thanks a lot. :) Clone Commander Lee Talk 16:20, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
Orbital stations
Hi, I need your help since you created Category:Orbital Stations. I am cleaning up Category:Space stations and moved Corellia Space Station to Category:Orbital stations, when I noticed that capitalization was incorrect. I wanted to move the pages from Category:Orbital Stations to the correctly-named category, when I saw the description "Orbital space stations that appeared during the Cold War and Galactic War, as they're all the same type."
Here is my request: Could you identify the pages in these categories that are of this special type and sort them into a new category with a more descriptive name, ideally a subcategory of Category:Orbital stations? I would really appreciate that, since I have no idea how to name this category, and it could be that other users placed pages in Category:Orbital Stations by mistake, going just by name instead of by the description on the category page. --GySgtHartman (talk) 18:24, March 13, 2014 (UTC)
- Great, thanks for your help. From the articles themselves it is not obvious that the stations are of the same type (and of which), maybe you could add some information on this some day. --GySgtHartman (talk) 20:02, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
Star Wars Imperial Commando
Hello, Cade. I just noticed one objection of yours to Star Wars: Imperial Commando seems to be addressed, but not struck. As it dates back from February, is it possible that you forgot it? Clone Commander Lee Talk 10:08, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
Wing Guard uniform
Hello Cade, I saw that the Wing Guard uniform was redirected. I fail to see how it's different from articles such as Alliance Fleet trooper uniform, Imperial officer's uniform, etc. I also remember Scout trooper armor ended up getting its own article, when it was originally a redirect for Stormtrooper armor. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:41, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
TNT
Hello there. I only recently saw this edit you made, and I don't quite understand your reasoning for the redirect. Why don't you think Angry Birds should be treated like any other non-canon source? Stake black msg 02:44, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
- PS, I just found this in the German Wookieepedia. I was hoping you could make sense of it, since I know nothing of TOR. Cheers. Stake black msg 23:48, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
Re: Faa GAN
- Just letting you know that I've responded to most of your comments on the Faa nomination. I'm still unclear where you are seeing the Word-based apostrophe. I believe I've limited double linking but I can recheck that. -- Riffsyphon1024 17:22, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
- Updating you in regards to the Mee GAN. I hope I have covered most things. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:04, April 25, 2014 (UTC)
Ewoks: The Battle for Endor
Hi. I noticed that there is no source for the cast/crew list that you added, as it is causing an error in the references section. Adamwankenobi (talk) 17:44, March 24, 2014 (UTC)
Holiday Special
How are the links from the animated segment separate from the rest of the show? I understand that it has its own page, but it's a part of the special just as much as any of the other segments are. Adamwankenobi (talk) 19:28, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
== Hi
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Hi :P Was it hard for you to join this Wikia ?-- Emperor Jarjarkine (talk) 17:55, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
Category:Battles of the pre-Shadow Hand campaign
Hello there. If you want to put the battles of this campaign into this category (pre-Shadow), you should create its page. The page for this category hasn't been created. However, this page (Pre-Shadow) already exists if you want to use it. I let it up to you if you want to create a new page and delete the existing one. Anyway, I think we should use the Pre-Shadow page since it is written like that everywhere else. Best regards. --DKS MaXoO (talk) 19:37, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
- It's a conjectural title, so it's rather fanony to have a capital Pre. I wasn't finished working on that category yet, so I hadn't made the category yet. Cade
Calrayn 19:41, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
Mahara Kesh
{{subst:GAnotify|Mahara Kesh|1358(Talk) 16:29, April 3, 2014 (UTC)}}
Forces of Corruption
Okay, here is the chronology:
- Sometime well before the destruction of the Death Star: Mission to Mandalore, Battle of Felucia (Zann Consortium) (more like a mission though)
- Zann is imprisoned after Felucia and spends some time in prison, the game indicates that this are at least a few months
- Zann is freed by Fen: Ground Battle on Kessel, Skirmish on Honoghr, Skirmish over Mandalore (still before DS)
- Now Zann mentions that the Death Star has been destroyed to Yavin IV and wants to go there. You are given the task to "corrupt or conquer" all planets between you and Mandalore, which would be Shola (already corrupted), Nal Hutta and The Maw. You can bypass Shola. The Skirmish on Nal Hutta is not really needed, you can easily conquer the planet without corrupting it, therefore I'm unsure if this actually fits within the chronology. The Maw cannot be corrupted and therefore needs to be conquered by a space fleet.
- Space Battle at Yavin 4, shortly after you are attacked by Jabba. The Skirmish on Saleucami happens next, but you also have the possibility to corrupt the planet on some other way, so I'm once again not sure if this belongs in the chronology. Next are the Battle of Saleucami (Zann Consortium) and the Ground Battle on Hypori. All this takes place well before Episode V/VI.
- Next is the Ground Battle on Dathomir and then followed after some time by the Ground Battle on Bespin. The later one has to take place after Episode V, as the Empire controls Bespin. Xizor is killed after this mission.
- The death of Xizor is mentioned by Thrawn at the Space Battle at Carida.
- The Raid on the Imperial Archive takes place shortly before Endor as the Emperor has left Coruscant.
- In the immediate aftermath of Endor, Zann attacks Kuat. The Battle for the Eclipse is the final mission.
Hope that helps. If you got questions etc. please contact me on IRC or leave a message on my talk page. Cheers. Clone Commander Lee Talk 10:55, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
- And BTW: Does Lord Umbriss' estate need a conjecture tag? AFAIK yes, therefore I added it, but if that is wrong, please remove it or let me know so that I can undo it. Clone Commander Lee Talk 22:41, April 4, 2014 (UTC)
Unidentified criminal gang
SWTOR
Is it canon for Vette to seek revenge or to reject revenge? I'm just curious as to whether or not the dark side decision is canon in this case. --Rakhsh (talk) 22:08, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
FAN objections
Hey Cade, please note that your objections to several FANs that you've recently reviewed, including Far Orbit, Ambush on the Vulture's Claw, and XJ-6 airspeeder, have been addressed for over a week. Please make sure to follow up on them when you have the chance. In regards to the Vulture's Claw FAN, I'd be happy to further discuss the subject with you if necessary. CC7567 (talk) 19:11, April 6, 2014 (UTC)
- Yo Cade, please remember to follow up on your Far Orbit objections when you have time. Thanks. CC7567 (talk) 15:01, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
Admin
hey why aren't you administrator?--Emperor Jarjarkine Senate Hall 20:56, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
Question
Hi i wanted to know, where do you find all the information about thoses pages that you create ??--Emperor Jarjarkine Senate Hall 01:54, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
Hay Cade
I saw you made this template back in late December of last year. And I found a really short article, to which I was going to add the template, but I saw nothing, like no articles at all, use the template. Lol, what is it for? It looks useful for articles like the previously-linked one, but it looks experimental so I wanted to ask you what is was first. —Super Saiyan 7 Somebody | talk | edits 02:39, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
Amazng job fr the mainpage ! I love this new thing you added. (y) is it hard to create?Emperor Jarjarkine Senate Hall
Re: Ryloth
Thanks for pointing that out. I've taken care of it. CC7567 (talk) 03:32, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
Eseni
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