This is an archive of past discussions, so please do not modify it. Please contact me on the previous page.
Re:Bendu
Thanks, Cade. You learn so little of the Dai Bendu that any information is most welcome. If you ever come across another mention of them while exploring The Old Republic, do not hesitate to let me know. ;-) (Hopefully, Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi: Into the Void will contain interesting new material pertaining to the monks. At least, the preview function on Amazon.com reveals that they're mentioned in that book several times.) --LelalMekha (talk) 22:11, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
Imperial outpost
Nonsense
Do u have nothin better to do than ruin other people's days? —Unsigned comment by JKZ123 (talk • contribs)
Draethos (planet)
It may be worth flagging the source that first identified the planet as Thosa. I don't have all those sources so if you do it would be helpful if could add the tag to the appropriate source instead of just outright removing fact tags. I'm sure I've tried to explain this to you in the past. Rokkur Shen (talk) 05:48, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
Personality
why have you removed my edit of kyp durron ealier.User:Roguewarrior23
Kyle Katarn's circa age
If he is a little older than Jan then should his circa birth year be c. 25 BBY? I know he's not older by the way it is spelled out. --Dawth Mawl (talk) 21:57, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
Re: 10-4TO
I took care of my objections. As for Riegenn Hetuu, I just wanted to fix the old date, you can nominate him if you want to.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 19:11, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
Kathleen Kennedy Interview
The info I added to the episode VII article came from Kethleen Kennedy herself in an interview with Clever Movies. I linked the interview how is it a rumor if she said this herself and not someone else that claims to be a source inside the industry. She confirmed that the spin offs were being written as I type this post. Just wanting to know how that was a rumor and unrelated. Matt Seay (talk) 19:40, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
Kyp durron's personality
just to let you know i was writing something in but you cancel it before you let me finished it user:Roguewarrior23
WOTM
Hey Cade, just wanted to say thanks for supporting my nomination for WOTM last month. I really appreciate it. Supreme Emperor (talk) 13:55, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
{{Verify}} tags
If you were able to verify Rarsk, then see if you can do the same with Nails. Both were created by the same user at about the same time and appear to be related. :) —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 00:36, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
Star Wars: The Yoda Chronicles
Hi, I noticed you replaced the Verify tag on Star Wars: The Yoda Chronicles. While you had reason, I assure you it exists. I would be happy to add a verifiable link, but it always gets caught in the stupid filter. If you go to Jedi News.com, and scroll down, you should see an article for it. It came out today on the Lego website. Thanks190.4.11.74 03:54, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
Hi
I was just wanted to ask a question on Bree's article about talking to her in real life. I didn't wanna come across as a vandalizer. Angie Y. (talk) 02:17, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
Ragnos
Listen, I'm not trying to accomplish anything, and yes I know that he was involved in the battle (not in the dark side ending, though). But I'm trying to make u understand that Ragnos's spirit DIDN'T die, he was just defeated and imprisoned in his tomb once again when his scepter was destroyed. That doesn't count as him dying. Jaden's lightsaber never even slashed or stabbed Ragnos. Watch the light side ending of the game on Youtube or else where if u don't believe me. StarWizardWars.
Lawrence Kasdan bio
The L.K. review of the Andy Warhol/Velvet Underground Ann Arbor, MI shows seems pertinent to me (an action/adventure screenplays dismisses historic art/underground films and music). There is a request for expansion of the L.K. page on Wookieepedia, but not Wikipedia. I couldn't find confirmation that it really was his review, but it's hard to believe another (Larry) Kasdan was was the Michigan Daily film critic in the late 1960s, reviewing a performance in Ann Arbor, while the L.K. we know was at the University of Michigan. Also, I have a source, but I'm not sure how to do footnotes. Is this worth pursuing? Nick09alt (talk) 01:24, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
Arcanum
That's great, thanks very much! I will update the article shortly. --Jinzler (talk) 18:22, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
Ragnos
Look, I don't know what exactly is your problem with me doing my edits to this wikia, but I'm not trying to violet the rules. Anyway, straight to the point, Ragnos DIDN'T die in the battle, that's all I'm trying to do is just try to make u realize that. Look, I don't intend to pass as a jerk nor am I trying to say you're stupid or anything like that, but Ragnos DIDN'T die, just enclosed in his grave again and trapped there (again if you want to see the ending of the game to double-check, then feel free) but whetter the scepter was destroyed or when he was in Tavion's body when it was didn't kill him just enclosed him in the netherworld of the force. Sorry if I'm ticking u off but that's how it went. StarWizardWars. Look, Ragnos still ISN'T dead, what do I have to do to make u understand that? Again: I'm not intending to push the issues further nor am I intending to violet the rules of 3RR policy. I'm not trying to annoy you (as you're annoying me now) but I'm just trying to convince you and make u realize (with very little success). StarWizardWars.
Wookiee Cookiee
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What do I want a Wookiee Cookiee for? StarWizardWars
The Old Republic Character
I know you're always editing pages pertaining to The Old Republic, which I know nothing about since I don't play, so I think it might be best if you check out Sidonie Garen to verify the recent edits to it.
Destruction of fleets over Cyborrea
Hi Cade! Since you were the one to create the article on the attacks on Hutt Space, I was wondering if you could tell me a few things. Firstly, is the bit about the destruction of fleets over Cyborrea mentioned in-universe (if so, could you please provide the quote) or in an OOU text? Secondly, is the term "Force phantom" used specifically? And thirdly, are the "fleets" supposed to be Hutt fleets? Thanks! Imperators II(Talk) 16:10, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick response! Imperators II(Talk) 16:36, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
Explanation
Please do explain what you Found wrong with The Expanded Version of the sacking of Coruscant on the Galactic timeline.... kind of pissed me off... thanks --RevanchistABY (talk) 02:27, May 18, 2013 (UTC)RevanchistABY sorry forgot to leave a signature to the comment I just left
Ataru
Hello, I saw that you changed the stuff that I had put on the Ataru page. FYI, Nihilus and Sidious are both Ataru practitioners. If you keyframe Sidious's duel with Maul in TCW (same goes for Nihilus in the KOTOR games), you'll see what I mean. Thanks! —Unsigned comment by 66.44.50.149 (talk • contribs)
Disease
Because Tope screwed up and gave it to Cal. XD MasterFred(Whatever) 14:29, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
Message to Calrayn
Look, I'm sorry. I didn't know it was the Encyclopedia. I thought it was the game.--86.157.74.35 17:14, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
Cassa Hun
Inq 57 sauce
You are hereby invited to Inqmoot 57 and the Inquisitorius Post-Memorial Day cookout, scheduled for 00:00 June 2 UTC, or 20:00 June 1 Eastern time in the only country that matters, AMERICA. Bring your own meat, because I'm not sharing. Sharing is for Communists. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 18:10, May 23, 2013 (UTC)
Attack on the Shock Drum Facility
Eli-eli-o
List of books?
Hey Cade, why did you revert my edits to List of books. Essays and commentarys already had books listed before I got their and all of the many things I added were present on Amazon. Some like "R2-D2: Unsung Hero" were very good and deserve to at least remain as blacklinks on the page. Please explain your reasons for obliterating all my work. Thank-you.Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 06:06, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
Warning: Translate it to Polish for me. I don't understand!
Appreciate gameplay template modifications
Thank you very much, Cade. I really appreciate your help with the gameplay-related articles. Rakhsh (talk) 03:32, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
Oppressor
Wraith Squadron
- I think I accidentally blew away your duplicate link removal; I was adding images to the article and didn't realize it had been conflicted. Sorry about that. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:46, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Edit: Nope, you're good. I just need to re-add the images. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 20:47, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Edit: Nope, you're good. I just need to re-add the images. Atarumaster88
Jonkan
Jedi Handbook
I don't get it. Isn't it a Dorling Kindersley licensed product?Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 01:49, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
Serra Keto reversion?
Hello Cade Calrayn, I see you reverted my edit. I think the statement that the Encyclopedia is incorrect needs to be adjusted. I don't think we can just assume that it is in error. Just because she was present in the temple as of Order 66 is not enough to dispel the fact unless another source explicitly states otherwise. How are we to know that she wasn't expelled during the events of the film and hadn't physically left the temple yet? Bo Shuda (talk) 02:23, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
Valis
Removing irrelevant
It is not vandalism if it is correcting a problem. The behind the scenes section of Duranium is false. Even if the name was used in another scifi universe that does not mean that it had any bearing on its usage in this one. It is also impossible for anyone to claim that the substance came into existence in this universe because of star trek. So to say that it was first used in an episode of Star Trek that aired 11 years before Star Wars is inane because it is a fictional substance and its use in the Star Wars scene was not dependent on its "discovery" or invention in the Star Trek universe. To aimlessly remove my edit for this material without considering the logical reason for its removal is sloppy and inconsiderate to say the least. I hope you make future changes with a little more forethought.
J'Ruush
Chúc mừng Cade, I do not have rights to add an image so I was contemplating whether or not you could add an image of J'Ruush, thank you. --Darth Deon (talk) 17:08, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
KotOR screenshots
Hey there,
While I appreciate the effort of taking screenshots of the events shown in the game, I believe it would be more accurate to avoid any character customization in order to show more canonical and accurate visuals (e.g: using the default character robes and lightsabers for all the companion characters). Alexrd (talk) 23:22, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
Well hello there
Just wondering....
Hey Cade, I was just wondering why was my edit taken down on the Grievance Striker? Thanks! LIGHTNING12345678910 (talk) 02:37, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Because "could be held" is not present tense; therefore there is no need to change it. It's passive. Cade
Calrayn 03:51, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
Re:Revan
Man, I hoped to get him to FA… oh well. Anyway, yeah, feel free to take a look at my sub-page for any missing info and incorporate any missing info. I will begin reading and will be posting a review shortly, probably tomorrow night.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 20:25, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
Brentaal stuff
The Far Orbit has a little section on Brentaal, and two missions that take place near/on it. As for stuff that is not in the article/might be useful, the Far Orbit places its atmosphere as Type I, and the Brentaal system is mentioned as the crux (main) system of the Perlemian and Hydian ways. Lots of shipping companies have "bases" there, and quite a few are headquartered there. Brentaal produces nothing of its own, but merely acts as a shipping hub. I have more important stuff, and I'll put that here soon. 501st dogma(talk) 22:09, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Continued: Brentaal IV has a vast underworld of black markets and criminals, and Brentaal is considered one of the most busiest spaceports in the galaxy. The world is also the site of a huge Imperial Customs office, where there is a great number of customs agents, though the amount of ships coming in far exceeds the number of agents -- despite these agents, smuggled goods still pass through. Brentaal IV is also a site of a Hutt criminal faction run by Shettora, in which Puullo acts as a lieutenant. This faction helped the Far Orbit out, and exchanged goods and services with it. As for missions, Brentaal IV is mentioned in The Rival, The Trap, and appears in Raid on Brentaal. The Rival has the pirate Venslas Beeli raiding different planets around Brentaal, including the planet itself. Because the pirates keep hitting Brentaal space, the Far Orbit manages to attack the pirates. In The Trap, the Far Orbit is caught in a trap near Brentaal by Imperial forces. In the raid mission, some crew of the Far Orbit go to Brentaal IV to secure a datacard from an Alliance contact. However, they are chased by Imperial Security Bureau agents, and make a get away with the Far Orbit's help. That should be it. Contact me if you need clarification on anything. 501st dogma(talk) 22:45, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
RE
The Star Wars Takeover is a real Club Penguin event coming in July, totally 100% real. If you researched it you would have known that. I even included the link to where I got the information from, the official Club Penguin website, which is owned by Disney as well as Star Wars. Please recreate the page. Thank you.
ɐɾuıN uǝǝɹפ (talk) 18:02, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
New Articles
Hey there Cade! I think you may have the wrong person, as I have never made a page stating: Pure Blood Voss. Also, I have stopped speculating about the home planets. Thanks! LIGHTNING12345678910 (talk) 18:24, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
Note
I have only speculated on one article about home world's and the creator of the Voss article was a Wikia contributor, not a registered member. Thanks! LIGHTNING12345678910 (talk) 18:37, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
Infoboxes according to MoS
FYI:
All infobox material must be detailed in the article proper, with the following exceptions:
The out-of-universe "era" field
The "prev," "conc," and "next" fields of event infoboxes, which are not necessarily relevant to the article
→See Wookieepedia:Mofferences/November 11, 2012
—GethralkinHyperwave 00:42, June 25, 2013 (UTC)
Star Wars: The Card Game - A Dark Time vs. A Dark Time
Please note that the full name, Star Wars: The Card Game - A Dark Time, is the official designation of the game expansion, and keeping the proper designation eases navigation. —GethralkinHyperwave 23:46, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Also, I am currently working on these and it is quite disconcerting to have all my many changes report an error when I hit "Save page". —GethralkinHyperwave 23:48, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
- I noticed you were basing the move off of what you took to be a precedent in the Card Games category. However, it is not the same with all games. The precedent is to use the name that the publisher designates for the actual product. Some game companies publish the name of certain games or expansions in their promotional material with the entire parent game title and some do not. The precedent is to use what the company uses to catalog it. Fantasy Flight Games uses the entire name for the Star Wars: The Card Game expansions and delux releases in their catalog. This was the same for the WizKids Games' Star Wars PocketModel TCG, as well, which you can see the Wookieepedia follows the precedent for that game's expansions category. —GethralkinHyperwave 00:02, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I see it now.
Didn't realize this was a discussion comment spammer. Was about to leave a polite message for the user, but it seems many such warnings have been ignored. Removal is the right course in this case. —GethralkinHyperwave 03:10, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
Apology
Sorry about that i'm not entirely familiar about the rules of Wookieepedia. User:Byzantinefire 22:22, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
Re: Your edits of Deddite and Banthar
While I appreciate your interest to help out, let me assure you that there was confusion over the placing of the Fanon template (which no one has EVER done to me before because they have likely noticed the creation timestamp and understood that it was still being ironed out) in the middle of my working on the article, and your discourteous edits are just as disruptive despite my obvious placement of the large {{Inuse}} template which brings up a warning triangle with text that you had to have seen when you edited my work in progress:
As a courtesy, please do not make edits to this article while this message is displayed, in order to avoid edit conflicts.
—GethralkinHyperwave 03:27, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Additionally, just so that you are aware, the Wookieepedia's guidelines on sourcing instructs that cited references (the sources that prove the material is canon) be placed in the Notes and references section below Appearances and Sources sections. While the A&P sections are the links to the relevant articles where the sourced material is located, they are interwiki. Verifiability is listed in the Notes and references cited and listed at the bottom of the article page. Please take this into consideration next time before popping in (or reverting back) Fanon templates. —GethralkinHyperwave 03:59, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Please also note that the Fanon template does not state that Sources and Appearances sections need exist in the article, merely that sources and appearances—which are cited in the Notes and references section as verifiable proof of canonicity—need to be included. —GethralkinHyperwave 04:09, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you, I appreciate that. I also agree that the Appearances and Sources section must also be listed, however, I will also keep in mind that it is not always apparent to others that one is in the middle of editing, and will therefore use the Inuse template when creating articles. Forgive my frustration over this ordeal, but trying to create just two articles used more of my time than was necessary and the results would have been the same. —GethralkinHyperwave 04:31, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Please also note that the Fanon template does not state that Sources and Appearances sections need exist in the article, merely that sources and appearances—which are cited in the Notes and references section as verifiable proof of canonicity—need to be included. —GethralkinHyperwave 04:09, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
What fornmat does it have to be in?
My thing was based off the military that the trandoshan species have.
184.58.50.187 15:44, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
Formatting and Naboo/Chommell
According to the sourcing policy, references go after punctuation and quotation marks, so it wouldn't make sense to divide up the references, since it should go after the caption. As for Senator Amidala, it is not wrong to refer to her as Senator of Naboo. For TCW-related articles it would be better to refer to her as the senator of her homeworld rather than the sector since she is always referred as the Senator of Naboo in the series and sources related to the series. It's just like Dac, in TCW it is referred to as "Mon Cala", and as result, in TCW articles it's referred to as "Mon Cala" rather than "Dac" most of the time. Darth Pythonis (Talk) 17:22, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
- That's not the reason why I reverted you. The references are sourcing two different pieces of information. The first references the character, and the second sources the fact that they are Senator of so-and-so. 17:27, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
- oh, ops, sorry then.--Darth Pythonis
(Talk) 17:28, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
- oh, ops, sorry then.--Darth Pythonis
Taris
So we can't say that Kin Robb is Senator of Taris even though it's her homeworld confirmed from this source? Darth Pythonis (Talk) 17:42, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes. Unless the source says "she represented her homeworld" or that "she represented Taris", it's speculation. Cade
Calrayn 17:44, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry about the confusion over the Vulptereen and Trade Federation pages, I forgot to add my sources (all of which can be found on the Vulpter page). I won't make any more edits on this wiki until I learn how to reference sources correctly.
No Offense 8:23 PM July 9, 2013
Species and categories
Your CT on splitting Category:Individuals of unidentified species has passed. I have not yet deleted Category:Individuals of unknown species, for the reason suggested by Cal Jedi, namely "If for no other reason than to make it easier to see which articles need their categories changed." When that category is depopulated in favor of the more encyclopedic alternative you suggest, drop me or another admin a line and we will bahleet for great justice. jSarek (talk) 01:40, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
Brejik's Run
Hi, I see that you edited the page Brejik's Run and ask "Why was this redirected?"; I add the redirect following the Tularan Marsh page where the Brejik's Run link goes to the Tarisian Season Opener. Hope to be usefull and not to be boring ;-)
--Raih Sienar (talk) 15:04, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
CAN objection
Hello, you have an objection on the Braxis CAN that has been addressed for over a week.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 16:19, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
Battle of
CT Discussion
I have clarified the issue. The main issue is whether or not a discussion and consensus be made before launching an overhauling project that would otherwise not have any details for what that project would entail. I also clarified the use of "each"—I was going for more like each project proposal, but I think I got lost in thought and wrote it out with the impression of needing for each and every template. Not feasible if a project was to be proposed and then needed a consensus vote for each and every template item. So, I have reworded as follows: "For template overhaul without prior visible discussion" and "Against template overhaul without prior visible discussion." Hope that clears things up. Thanks. —GethralkinHyperwave 05:31, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
Rumpelstiltskin
Orgus Din Rewrite
Can you rewrite the Orgus Din page?
Murtag
A Dreary search for truth
Hey Cade, as you're one of the Wook's resident TOR experts, I need to ask you for a favor. A long time ago, an anon added information to the Darth Drear article, claiming that Drear had appeared or was mentioned in some form in The Old Republic. This claim went unconfirmed and ultimately led to the article losing its Good status. I was wondering if this has any truth in it whatsoever, as I was thinking about renominating the article. From what I've found - or rather, not found - it appears Drear has absolutely no involvement in The Old Republic, but I need to be sure before doing anything. If you have the time, could you check into this for me? I'd really appreciate it. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 01:13, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Excellent! Thanks for the help. However, if memory serves me right, I don't think there's any way to automatically restore an article's status like that, so I'll have to settle for the nomination stage again. Still, given that the net result of all this is very little change to the article, I don't imagine there being much of a hassle. :p Thanks again! Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 01:37, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
Msg-Canon
Thanks for catching my inadvertent duplication. Couldn't find it, couldn't remember the name, and thought, "why isn't something like that in the subst list?" While I was specifically trying to indicate the changing of established canon, the tag you redirected mine to is precisely what I was overlooking on that list. My eyes were as tired, I suppose, as possibly the eyes of the editor the tag was meant for. —GethralkinHyperwave 17:49, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
Re: Vote-farming
Oh, I'm sorry, it's just that I saw someone say something a little similar on JangFett's talk page.--Darth Pythonis (Talk) 21:37, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Talking about vote-farming... Is "objection-farming" allowed? In other words, is it all right to go to people's talk page to ask them to review FA, GA and CA nominations?--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 21:52, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks for clarification on the difference, Cade. I don't do IRC.--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 21:59, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, and I just wanted to say again that I'm sorry for trying to encourage an user to vote on an image proposal for an article. Thanks for letting me know. Darth Pythonis
(Talk) 22:02, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, and I just wanted to say again that I'm sorry for trying to encourage an user to vote on an image proposal for an article. Thanks for letting me know. Darth Pythonis
- Okay. Thanks for clarification on the difference, Cade. I don't do IRC.--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 21:59, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
Re: Vibro-ax
I got from Trip's edits that piping was not the correct layout. About the Vibro-ax, thanks, I didn't know that. Lol, and I just saw that I accidentally saved Vibrosword instead of Previewing changes. Thanks for the fix. —GethralkinHyperwave 19:13, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
GBA/DS Force Powers.
Point taken, but we really need to mention the moves somewhere in the article, as gameplay mechanics or not, they were still Anakin's moves. And besides, he used similar techniques when he's fought as a boss in the game as well. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 05:53, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
Ninja Turtles
Inqmoot 58
Hey Cade. Inqmoot 58 has been scheduled for July 27/28. As always, leave notes if you can't make it. Cheers, grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 18:36, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
"End Game"
Well, Cade, I understand that you have the Episode I novel and are using it to further expand the Anakin Skywalker article. If this edition has the short story, "End Game," perhaps you could use that to extend the articles on Darth Maul and others relating to the Invasion of Naboo. I can't keep this up by myself, especially when trying to use the statements in my own words. Lord KOT (talk) 19:27, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
Source
Hi, I was wondering if you had access to any of the Star Wars: The Clone Wars Comic UK because I'm looking for sources for the Confederate–Republic peace conference article since I wanted to eventually nominate it as a good article. The reason is that I don't have any of the UK comics and others who I've asked are either busy or they don't have the comic(s) that mentions about this conference. Thanks for your help. Darth Pythonis (Talk) 17:44, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
Battle of Tralus
Hello. Can you help me find the source placing the Battle of Tralus in 6 ABY. I didn't find anything in all the sources mentioned in the page. The Essential Chronology just indicaded that Thrawn was the sole remaining Grand Admiral in 6 ABY.Hk 47 (talk) 22:47, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
Watcher Three
Why move the article back to Watcher Three (Cold War)? There are no others and Watcher Three is a vacant redirect anyway! --LOST-Malachi (talk) 04:40, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
- AH, ok then, haven't gotten there yet. I will make Watcher Three a disambig page then. --LOST-Malachi (talk) 06:11, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
1st
Well, I just wanted to know what happened. I didn't mean to ruin any pages.--64.134.191.225 17:48, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
Reverting edits
Why are you reverting my edits? I was told that the redlink template should only be used for articles with more than five redlinks. Please look at the edits before you decide to revert them. 78.97.91.207 13:01, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
- I don't see the problem with a stub (which are everywhere on this wiki), if anybody wants to expand the article then he can simply add info to an article that already has all the sourcing, templates, categories, etc, but which is incomplete. It's much more convenient, especially for users who want to add information but don't know how to create a full article). 78.97.91.207 13:14, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
- The anonymous user is correct. Cade, save warnings for those who actually need them --- filling in redlinks is not spam, regardless of the length of the new article. Turning a redlink into a stub is common practice all over Wookieepedia, done all the time to satisfy FAnom and GAnom objections, and otherwise by established users of the site. A stub is better than no article at all. Menkooroo (talk) 14:24, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
Carosite
Hi Cade. What is the SW:TOR reference to Carosite? --Eyrezer (talk) 10:53, August 12, 2013 (UTC)
Re: Sanyassan
Hey Cade! I saw that you added Star Wars: The Old Republic: Rise of the Hutt Cartel in the appearances section of the Sanyassan article. Anything of interest about them? How and when are they mentioned in the game? Cheers. --LelalMekha (talk) 08:21, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
- I have the same question, but replace "Sanyassan" with "Squib." :) ~Savage
13:29, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
- Bah. Sorry, guys, I just got to work. I'll look them up at home in the TOR files; with the expansion of the level cap to 55, Rise of the Hutt Cartel added about a dozen or so new crew skill missions for each crew skill and raised the level cap to 450. Squibs and Sanyassans are just mentioned in single crew skill missions. Cade
Calrayn 14:13, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
- All right then. If you ever find a spare minute just to give me the short mission description, do it, by all means. I'd hate to see that update tage remain on one of my FAs. ;-) --LelalMekha (talk) 00:17, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for the update, my friend. :-) --LelalMekha (talk) 20:25, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
- All right then. If you ever find a spare minute just to give me the short mission description, do it, by all means. I'd hate to see that update tage remain on one of my FAs. ;-) --LelalMekha (talk) 00:17, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
- Bah. Sorry, guys, I just got to work. I'll look them up at home in the TOR files; with the expansion of the level cap to 55, Rise of the Hutt Cartel added about a dozen or so new crew skill missions for each crew skill and raised the level cap to 450. Squibs and Sanyassans are just mentioned in single crew skill missions. Cade
TOR articles
Okay. --Цар (talk) 20:02, August 13, 2013 (UTC)
Some Love ritual
Re:Tala-Reh
Whoops; my bad. It's taken care of now. Thanks for reminding me. Grand Moff Tranner (Comlink) 00:24, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
Tala-Reh's husband
C2-N2 (Hero of Tython)
First EduCorps meeting
Hello, I am inviting you to the very first EduCorps IRC meeting, which will be held at 7 PM ET on Saturday August 31st. I am inviting all Inquisitors, AgriCorps members, and EduCorps members to a meeting in order to discuss the large amount of old comprehensive articles that are in need of maintenance. I would also like to discuss the possibility of increasing the responsibilities of EduCorps-only users due to the lack of reviewers on the Comprehensive article nominations page and CA review page. Please come join the discussion on this page if you wish to participate in the meeting. I encourage anyone who wants to contribute to add any articles with issues to the appropriate section on the page. Thank you for your time.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 03:59, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
Materrus
LEGO Brickmaster's page
Here's the proof. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51c78Xz5WVL.jpg Plus, it has a self-contained lego story. Its not merch.Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 04:18, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
Cave of Evil Title Source
This is taken from the Behind the Scenes section of the article itself:
"In The Story of Starkiller, a video documentary about the Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II video game, it is revealed that the location's name is The Cave of Evil, as stated by project lead Haden Blackman and executive producer Julio Torres."
That is the source. --I am Darth Nightmaricus. All who enter my lair shall perish. 21:33, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
- And that doesn't preempt the preexisting canon name of Dark Side Cave. Cade
Calrayn 22:24, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
J'Ruush
Hello Cade, I have found a image that can be used for J'Ruush which is in need of an image, I myself am restricted from uploading for some reason, so I had to upload this to Fanon, and find a use for the image so it would not be eradicated so I used it as my profile picture and now I send you a link to a no-cookie link with an image available for use for J'Ruush. [1] --Darth Deon (talk) 02:15, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
Good to see you got my message.--Darth Deon (talk) 02:21, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
Galactic War
If you're certain of that mean multiple articles such as Emperor's Wrath (Second Great Galactic War) should be moved to shorter names too? If so, I will do it. LOST-Malachi (talk) 19:38, August 20, 2013 (UTC)
Great Houses of Alderaan
Just curious, for what reason is every House named House of "Name" instead of House "Name"? SWTOR obviously doesn't use the of in the name and only 3 of 16 Houses have pre-existing named: House of Antilles, House of Organa and House of Thul. Which means that for other 13 Houses created for the game, we use named that do not appear anywhere. And for Houses Thul and Organa SWTOR can count as a newer source that establishes a more correct designation that all that came before. LOST-Malachi (talk) 08:45, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
Dulok and Squib
Hey, Cade! I know you're super busy right now, but do you have time to transcribe the text of the crew skill missions that mention Squibs and Duloks? Thanks! ~Savage
18:40, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
- Ooooh. You caught me when I'm on my laptop, which doesn't have the files for them... When I get back to my apartment in a little while, I'll get them for you. Cade
Calrayn 18:43, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
Star Fire
Why do You want to delete this page about important SW-related video game? Sightsaber (talk) 22:14, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
Earth and Great Beyond
Okay then, what's a good tag for its appearance in Great Beyond? It wasn't even identified by name in the story, and was only IDed in supplemental materials such as developers notes. I'm doubtful it would be appropriate for it to be listed as a full appearance since it wasn't even named in its appearance, yet I want to make sure on how to proceed. Also, since I'm autistic and thus am not very good at non-verbal responses from the web, I want an actual reply, not an ignored one. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 23:34, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Frankly, I don't really care, as it's a non-canon story and it's Star Tours. I think it's kind of ridiculous that Earth is included in the galaxy, but also that you all are assuming that the "canon" Earth is the same as the non-canon Earth. However, that's beside the point. It doesn't need any tags other than the Noncanon tag; the first source/appearance were it's identified as Earth would get a {{1stID}}. Cade
Calrayn 23:38, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
Inuse
While your edit is appreciated, the page you just edited currently has a template called {{Inuse}} at the top. This template means that someone is currently working on improving the article, and to avoid edit conflicts, no one other than the placer of the template should edit the page while the message is visible. Thank you for your cooperation. —GethralkinHyperwave 02:23, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
- *sigh* That was actually completely unintentional. When I was viewing the page, there was no Inuse tag, and I did not see it when I opened the edit window. Cade
Calrayn 02:24, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
Re:EduCorps
Thanks for reminding me Cade, but unfortunately I can't make it as it'll be Sunday morning where I live, which is always occupied for me. Cheers. Commander Code-8 You lost the game! 07:44, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
Ardaniumiumiumiumiumiumiumium
You're special, just for being you
Great Houses of Alderaan
Hey Cade! Nice job you're doing with the Great Houses of Alderaan. Could you tell me where the "22 remaining houses" figure comes from? I suppose it's from the Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia? Regards. --LelalMekha (talk) 19:18, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
- Yep. Cade
Calrayn 19:24, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. BTW, does the encyclopedia also mention which house eventually got the upper hand? Of course, we all suspect that it was House Organa, but does the book outright state it? --LelalMekha (talk) 19:49, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
Cade Calrayn
CADE! YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU'RE FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRED!! You are FUCKING FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Unsigned comment by 76.200.232.138 (talk • contribs)
WOTM nomination
Thank you for supporting my nomination of WOTM for September 2013 as result for recognizing my work and hopefully some improvement for our beloved wookieepedia. -- Jedi Marty (talk) 23:27, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
Eras in the new plant template
Hey Cade. I saw that just created a new "plant" infobox, which is a fine thing! Still, I wondered wheter there should really be era tags going with that infobox. After all, species infobox doesn't have them. --LelalMekha (talk) 00:38, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
Merchandise?
I understand what your saying, but sticker books DO have a presence on this wiki. Their is even a category for them.Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 04:19, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
Would this count as merchandise as well?
I was thinking of making a page for this, but I wanted to check with you first. What do you think? http://www.amazon.com/National-Geographic-Angry-Birds-Star/dp/1426213034/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1372176063&sr=1-55 (talk) 21:21, September 2, 2013 (UTC) `Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 21:22, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, that is entirely merchandise. Any Angry Birds material should not receive an article beyond the articles for the two games themselves. Cade
Calrayn 21:53, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
Undone of your change of dawn of the Jedi
In reality, I don't give a shit, so do as you want. Do not forget to change the titles for each issue of kotor, Swtor, Legacy, Dark times, Republic, Rebellion, ... Maxattac (talk) 21:59, September 3, 2013 (UTC)
- I'm only doing this because the DOTJ issues are specifically not labelled as 6-10 and 11-15—each arc starts over. However, the Part # is valid; I'll re-add those. Cade
Calrayn 22:02, September 3, 2013 (UTC)
Pre-Republic tag
Heya, Cade. The Pre-Republic tag is not from a publishing era, but it is used to have a visual distinction between things that are timeless (no tag) and those that happen before the publishing eras start. It serves a purpose, and we need to have it. We also are in great need of a new icon, and I've pointed this out before. Please put them back. NaruHina Talk
18:50, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
- You're welcome to try a new SH to get a new eras tag, but until then, it's incorrect to use the Pre-Republic era as a tag when it's not a publishing era. A Before the Je'daii era could work, but I don't have the time at the moment to write up a SH or anything. Cade
Calrayn 19:01, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
- Cade, the Pre-Republic era tag has been used on here for nearly six years for the exact reasons that Naru said. That's a lot of precedent to overcome. If you feel that it should not be used or that a different icon should be used, please start a discussion and get consensus first. Wide, sweeping changes like what you suggest (that it should not be used at all) are not something that you should be bold with. The tags need to stay where they are until the community decides otherwise, and I will be reverting your edits for that reason. —MJ— Comlink 23:47, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry
Sorry about that, I just knew I'd have to make an edit to put the page in the past tense, and I didn't want to do that.74.72.159.170 02:30, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
Murttoc
Hello, I'd appreciate it if you were not so quick to revert my edits. This topic has been the subject of an ongoing discussion between myself, User:Hanzo Hasashi and User:Sompeetalay for a few days now. I've included a link to our discussion here. Thankyou for your cooperation. Bo Shuda (talk) 03:10, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
Seriously?
They need to be categorized. If someone wants more info on BTS material they can click on the imagecat box and find more behind the scenes imagery of particular characters; puppets or not. Find me a policy that prevents this and I'll gladly comply but your logic is ludicrous. Bo Shuda (talk) 04:07, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
TC closure
Hey, I've closed Forum:TC:Character sheets as a merge to the adventure. I will leave it to you as the nominator to carry out the actual merge. —MJ— Holocomm 18:55, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
And this as well?
Would Young DK Reader books be considered merchandise. Can I keep making pages for those products?Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 20:42, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
Yils
Inq Meeting 59
Hey Cade. Meeting 59 of the High Council of Inqusitors is scheduled for next week Saturday, September 21. Please make sure to leave notes if you cannot attend. Otherwise, see you there! CC7567 (talk) 01:39, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
- Due to a conflict with the next EduCorps meeting, Inqmoot Meeting 59 has been rescheduled for the following Saturday, the 28th. Please double-check and confirm on the meeting page if you are still able to make it. CC7567 (talk) 20:13, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
DoU
Unidentified
It is very hard to leave a reference for unidentified Jedi and unidentified clones but if you will help a fellow Jedi we can find the records. —Unsigned comment by 138.210.156.153 (talk • contribs)
You try and keep track of all the Jedi and the clones in Attack of the Clones there was 1 million clones and over a hundred Jedi! —Unsigned comment by 138.210.156.153 (talk • contribs)
People do all the time If I were to talk about Jaina Solo before she was introduced she would have been Fanon. Some of these people are on because of a book so if I decide to write a book on a whole bunch of unidentified Jedi and Clones you would not have anything to say! —Unsigned comment by 138.210.156.153 (talk • contribs)
Yeah good luck with that I have already started a script that has a chance to be the tenth Star Wars Movie and besides I say that half these people should not exist because someone wrote a book until the stick those two people in the extended universe, and yes Star Wars has an extended universe —Unsigned comment by 138.210.156.153 (talk • contribs)
You like the old republic. Nice... Anything specific you like?
References
Hey Cade! Thanks for helping on that page I just created. I'm just starting to get a hang of this "reference" business, and I was wondering if you could explain the edits you made, so that I can make sure I don't make these mistakes again. Thanks! --Scorch1162 (Priming Explosives) 02:57, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
- Once you assign a name to a specific reference (by using <ref name="___">) you can use that same reference at a later point with <ref name="___" />. It cuts down on the size of the page and helps prevent errors. Also, there wasn't a need for all those extra lines between each section. As for the categories, it's called pipelinking—though it's a special case with the categories. Thanks to what I did, the page will now be sorted as "BBY 15400" in the categories it's in. That's a specific thing we do with the year pages. Also, it might help if you go to Special:Preferences, in the Gadgets section, and click the button next to "Highlight all redirects orange." It'll make redirects like Essential Guide to Warfare show up orange. Glad I could help. Cade
Calrayn 00:19, September 13, 2013 (UTC)
EduCorps Meeting 2
You are invited to participate in EduCorps meeting 2, which is scheduled for 7 PM ET on Saturday, September 21st.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 14:13, September 12, 2013 (UTC)
RE: 4,300 BBY
On the Timeline of Galactic history, that same information is cited, I only moved the information to a new article to clear the redlink. Also, on Taris the information is cited, not from the first KOTOR, but from Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. Plus, the information on 4,300 BBY says that Taris "became known as" which would indicate that people would say this about Taris, which is what you found in the dialogues of KOTOR. I guess I could reword it so that it's more clear if you would like that! I feel that this all makes that valid. But then again, I could be wrong. What do you think? --Scorch1162 (Priming Explosives) 02:44, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Nah, none of it's valid. I actually traced the source of the info back to an anon several years ago, and it's proliferated via people reading info and copying it. The reference was false in the timeline page, and I've removed all of the other mentions of it and a few other years that I've confirmed to be fanon. 02:47, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Alright, then I apologize. I'm sorry for the mistakes. I'll delete the sandbox information to effectively kill 4,300 BBY.
Sorry again,
--Scorch1162 (Priming Explosives) 02:51, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
Spacetroopers
Hey Cal. From what I can see here, the troopers with backpack from ANH were indeed spacetroopers. The writing on the package is very clear about that. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:54, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Interesting. I added the appearance back, though there's too many images in that article for there to be another. Cade
Calrayn 21:57, September 16, 2013 (UTC)
Battle of Balmorra discussion
Hi
I knew you'd show up sooner or later. For some time I'm calling you "The Butcher of Dawidos". Sorry for my dark sense of humour. Memorize what you said about the list of supporters in the article about Revan's Sith Empire. To this day it stands as a testimony of my work. You claimed it'd be removed by the others. It wasn't. It seems only you have problems with my work :)
Seriously speaking, I don't say a final word in the Battle of Balmorra article. I really want to expand the content of it, enhancing its quality as the best as it's possible. Listing these individuals will help me find all missions and events which can be included in the main body of this article. In addition, not everyone has time to read all the text. Sometimes you need to find precise information ASAP. The second reason is quite private. I was looking for the names of Balmorra collaborators and couldn't find on the Wookieepedia. So I've decided to do it by myself. I can put myself into somebody else shoes. I'm sorry to say that but I think you can't :( But I really respect your work, especially Hero of Tython article.
Don't worry my friend :). I won't leave this article in this current condition. I will try to make it suitable for your kind (people liking lots of text) and mine (people liking short information). Greetings, Dawidos2 (talk) 15:04, September 17, 2013 (UTC)Dawidos
- I don't believe I've ever said anything about the Sith Empire list being removed by others, though after a discussion with other users, the Sith Empire list has been removed as it is entirely redundant and inferior to Category:Sith of Revan's Sith Empire and Category:Military personnel of Revan's Sith Empire. Lists are greatly inferior to categories, and if you're determined to have all of the Balmorran collaborators listed somewhere—and it certainly doesn't belong in the Battle of Balmorra article—then I'd suggest a Category:Balmorran collaborators, which can be added to the articles of all of the collaborators and included in Category:Sith Empire individuals. Your list also contains present tense, which is a major issue. Battle articles are not intended to be lists of combatants, they are intended as chronological summaries of the actual events. The individuals who participated are secondary. Cade
Calrayn 18:26, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
- Cade.I've received your message. I like your Battle of Corellia article very much. Could I finish only the Combatants section? Will something of my work survive? Maybe I could help you with something? I also like writing and updating articles about battles. Definitely, my favourite ones.Dawidos2 (talk) 17:09, September 20, 2013 (UTC)Dawidos
Well, what should we do with the ranks?
Look, we need to place the ranks somewhere, especially Cass's ranks and those from the DSTC since those weren't covered in the Essential Guide to Warfare at all. If you have any ideas as to where to place them, feel free to put them there. I really wish Wookieepedia didn't just remove the galleries, because that would have been the best place to put them. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:07, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
- There is absolutely no reason to create articles for random Imperial officers just to save the images from deletion. The images and content were removed from the Imperial rank article because it was largely original research and speculation. As for the ranks that look different, it's called artistic error and artistic license. Cade
Calrayn 21:13, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
- Fine, but we still need to do something about the Imperial officers even if it is expanding them. We've already got plenty of unidentified character articles on here, so I honestly don't see why they don't make the cut. They're characters, so they get articles. It's a wiki, after all. As far as the Ranks, can we at LEAST try to put them in the not not delete section, especially Cade's rank since that was not covered at all? Actually, I think we should create a series of tables listing variants covered in the behind the scenes section of the Rank Insignia articles, especially for reference purposes. Its not original research or speculation if its explicitly stated to have come from something like the Death Star Technical Companion, which at least the DSTC ranks were stated to have originated from that. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:20, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
- I don't understand what you're talking about, but if you have information from an actual source, then feel free to add to an article using text and references. Images aren't always necessary; they're a luxury that that requires significant text before they can be used. Cade
Calrayn 21:23, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
- According to some of the images (specifically, Dstmgmf.jpg, Dstmgnc.jpg, Dstmaj.jpg, and Dstmcom.jpg, and Dstmcap.jpg, among others), they came from the Death Star Technical Companion, which is an actual text-based source. As far as what I was babbling about earlier, I was referring to the Unidentified Imperial officers, since the way you were talking indicated that you planned to delete the articles. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:40, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
- I don't understand what you're talking about, but if you have information from an actual source, then feel free to add to an article using text and references. Images aren't always necessary; they're a luxury that that requires significant text before they can be used. Cade
- Fine, but we still need to do something about the Imperial officers even if it is expanding them. We've already got plenty of unidentified character articles on here, so I honestly don't see why they don't make the cut. They're characters, so they get articles. It's a wiki, after all. As far as the Ranks, can we at LEAST try to put them in the not not delete section, especially Cade's rank since that was not covered at all? Actually, I think we should create a series of tables listing variants covered in the behind the scenes section of the Rank Insignia articles, especially for reference purposes. Its not original research or speculation if its explicitly stated to have come from something like the Death Star Technical Companion, which at least the DSTC ranks were stated to have originated from that. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:20, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
Laeras-Wu
Preparing for War
Hey Cade. Please make sure to check your objections to the Preparing for War GAN when you get the chance; they've been addressed for over a week. Thanks. CC7567 (talk) 23:56, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
Fanon?
First of all, I am not trying to add any fanon on this site. All what I have been doing was fixing. But I was been accused. In the Archimar page, it showed a few spots that he was male. I have been reading that page perfectly, but some other user assumed it was wrong. I don't know what's going on. Second, I'm not the same guy, and I don't know why you would say something like that to me. This is not a warm welcome that I'm getting.--99.56.52.29 12:29, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
I didn't say that I read the book Before the Storm, only the page at this site. I didn't know that Archimar is mentioned once. When I looked through the page, two of the sentences had he and I thought it was male.--99.56.52.29 00:51, September 22, 2013 (UTC)
Look, please understand this, I thought Archimar was male since it said "he" two times before I edited it.--99.56.52.29 01:13, September 22, 2013 (UTC)
Corso Riggs's weapons category
Hi Cade. Exiledjedi and I are trying to figure out why a category was created for Corso Riggs's weapons? Categories are not used for weapons that are used by a single individual. --Richterbelmont10 (come in R2!) 04:11, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
- This is a specific and unique case, as he's got almost a dozen named weapons that are a focus of his personality; I can't think of another character who has a named collection like this. I'm not saying this should become common practice, but it's a unique case. Cade
Calrayn 04:13, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
UCotE
I'm apologizing for editing the page on the Exile. I had no idea it was a topic of such dissent. This was my first attempt at posting to Wookieepedia and I was not attempting to troll at all.
I played The Sith Lords when it first came out and then forgot about it, and then recently I re-installed it again to try with the restored content mod. I then wondered if there was more storyline developed around the character which brought me to Wookieepedia.
I was surprised to see that there had indeed been more backstory created, but I was also surprised at the omission of the original promotional materials for the game depicting the Exile as male. I thought that that was important enough to include in an exhaustive reference source like this one so that's why I submitted the edit.
Sincere apologies again.
P.S. The promotional artwork I was referring to were these: http://www.gamewallpapers.us/kotor-2-sith-lords
Berewold (talk) 04:45, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
KB: Turbolasers
Hey, why did you undo the post I left behind in the Knowledge bank? Everyone has some reason, and usually the person who complains about it first gets told off on some sketchy or genuine violation of policy. So let us avoid games and get straight to the point and then get past it if you really suppose something was wrong with what I said. I was already participating in that talk, there was no reason to rescind that post.99.188.36.80 04:35, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
- It was a mistake that occurred when I was rollbacking a number of consecutive edits. Your edit got caught in the crossfire. Cade
Calrayn 04:50, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
Good to know
I am pleased to hear that it was a mistake. I was psyched up, ready for a war or some contest over a minute error that had no basis in logic or reason. Thanks Calrayn.99.188.36.80 14:56, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
