Talk: Hanzo Hasashi/archive1

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Reply

Also, you might have to wait a few days to edit the GAN page, still. Good to see you got your account working. Chack Jadson ^(Talk) 20:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah, I can nominate for you. You get the credit for it, don't worry. ;) Chack Jadson ^(Talk) 20:07, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
  • All right, it's nominated. Chack Jadson ^(Talk) 20:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Wallen

I struck the sentence, BtS, and Lego objections; you fixed up the first two well enough, and since you can't add anything about the Lego Star Wars game, then I suppose that objection is pointless. However, I cannot strike the P&T objection, purely because it is required, and there's no way of avoiding that rule. Yes, you'll have to force the P&T, and if you have trouble, see Graestan about that, he's very good at writing forced P&T's. And what about the two questions I asked? Any quotes, and the redundant BtS sourcing? Cheers, DC 21:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

• Looks great, all objections stricken, AC vote given. Great job, DC 22:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
• I'll reword the P&T a bit for you. Unfortunately, the links to the online cards no longer work, so there's not much we can do about that. I'll try looking for them tomorrow. Grand Moff Tranner 20px ^(Comlink) 22:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
  • In my opinion, yes - I don't see anything that's majorly wrong with it. But that doesn't mean others with find things to object to. Just keep up the good work, and Wallen will become a GA. Grand Moff Tranner 20px ^(Comlink) 23:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
    • Sorry, but that's not the way I work. If that objection was the only thing preventing the article from passing, then yes, I would strike and support. I'm not doing this to be mean; I just want to ensure that this article will be fully sourced. Grand Moff Tranner 20px ^(Comlink) 21:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
      • I can't "support it more;" I can either object or support. And frankly, it's not the job of the AgriCorps - or anyone else - to hold your hand and guide you through the entire nomination. This is your work; therefore, it's your responsibility to see that the article contains all the info out there on Wallen. Once that is done, and I'm satisfied with it, then I will strike my vote and support. Until then, I ask you to wait. My first Featured Article nomination took a long time to pass; Good Article nominations can be the same. But Wallen will pass much faster if you take each objection and fix it right away. Grand Moff Tranner 20px ^(Comlink) 23:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
        • Pardon me for butting in, but I read you're in need of CCG pics for this article. You can probably find the ones you need here. Good luck! :-) jSarek 01:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
        • Very well, but I would like to see Toprawa's and Cav's objections satisfied before supporting. Grand Moff Tranner 20px ^(Comlink) 12:06, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
          • First off, sorry for answering a question on your talk page, Tope. Hope you don't mind. Anyway, AFAIK, you need to be registered for a few days (about 5) to edit the GAN page, regardless of how many edits you have. And mainspace edits are edits to articles, not forums, talk pages, or your userpage. Also, please be patient and stop badgering users to review your article. They'll get to it soon, don't worry. Chack Jadson ^(Talk) 22:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
            • Hey, that's understandable that you want it to get passed ASAP. Chack Jadson ^(Talk) 22:49, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Striking other users' objections

Do not strike other users' objections on the GAN page. It is up to each individual objector to strike their own objections. -- AdmirableAckbar ^(Talk) 00:23, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Wallen sources

Sure I can check those sources for you. Give me a few days to go through my collection, and I'll add them to the source list. - Cavalier One20px^{(Squadron channel)} 12:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Wallen

"So—are you still worried about being sent to the Agricultural Corps?" Wallen has been approved by the AgriCorps and awarded Good status. Feel free to add the {{User GA}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The AgriCorps thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — Cylka-talk- 18:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Fanon warning

User warning: Fanon. Please do not add your own fan-fiction to Wookieepedia articles. If you continue to add fanon to the site, you will be banned. Your input might be more welcome at the Star Wars Fanon Wiki.

- Lord Hydronium^(Oya!) 01:33, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

• Not intended to be fanon. Hanzo Hasashi 01:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Scripts aren't movies. And please understand, the transition process is long and we need to stay organized. Random users moving things willy-nilly is not going to help here. If you want to participate in the process, we'll have sign-ups starting on the 6th. - Lord Hydronium^(Oya!) 01:37, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Warning

Please stop adding unverified information to articles, such as Chiraneau. While it's obvious those are all the same actors given it's just reused footage, nothing ever states those are the same IU characters. Thank you. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Trooper

I added a note to the article saying the canonicity of the comic is in question. Chack Jadson ^(Talk) 23:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

• Eh, probably not. Don't think it matters. Chack Jadson ^(Talk) 23:30, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Executor characters

I'm going to politely ask you to drop the subject of Executor officers dying at Endor. I asked you once before when this conversation was ongoing to drop it then. I know you want to believe that every officer on the bridge died, and when you find a speck of information that seems to allude to that, you want to jump on it, but the information just isn't out there. If it was, it would have been added to the article already. Please do not add unverified information to an article unless a source explicitly states that someone died. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:21, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry bout that, sometimes I still make assumptions based off of established facts, and no I am not just trying to say what I want to be the case, I just sometimes jump to conclusions about alot of things, like when I tried to say Cane Adiss's fate was unknown because the Databank says so, even though apparently manual of style rules are not to say *insert name here*'s fate is unknown even if an official source says that it is, and when I tried to add in the info that Endicott was at the superlaser just based on seeing him there ROTJ (which you later on indeed added to his page). By no means am I trying to influence the canon or think that I have control of the canon, that was more of a thing of the past during my days as an anon, but I still do make mistakes sometimes. :)Hanzo Hasashi 01:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Understood, no worries. I just want to avoid rehatching old debates. Toprawa and Ralltiir 01:44, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Nevar

Thanks for getting that Nevar spelling bit. You'd think 7 people looking at it would have caught it. :P Kudos for having that knack for finding little bits of missing stuff in these CCG articles. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir 05:08, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Insider 83

Hey, Hanzo. Do you still have Star Wars Insider 83? Where exactly does it mention R3-O1? Thanks for any help, ~ SavageBob 03:21, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I asked another user to check for me, and he said he didn't find any mention, so it must have been a mistake by the Yodapedia people. I appreciate your help! ~ SavageBob 23:51, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re: May CAN

Hi, I misremembered. This wasn't a CT, just a discussion on SH, here: Forum:SH Archive/Request for comments: Apparently human characters. It wasn't put on CT, but was accepted by many expirienced users. Common sense rules! I won't object your nomination. I hope an Educorps member will join the discussion soon. Darth Morrt 03:33, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re: My CAN objections

Done. However, could you, in the future, wait a week before you remind me? I tend to check the nomination pages regularly. :) Cheers. 1358 ^(Talk) 20:16, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Godherdt

"So—are you still worried about being sent to the Agricultural Corps?" Godherdt has been approved by the AgriCorps and awarded Good status. Feel free to add the {{User GA}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The AgriCorps thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — 1358 (Talk) 12:52, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Davod Jon

Struck. Thanks for reminding me; I completely forgot about that. Cheers. 1358 ^(Talk) 18:52, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Stormtrooper species

Hey, Hanzo. I've been looking high and low for some source that names TIE pilots as Human, but so far no luck. There is this, from Star Wars: The Complete Visual Dictionary, p. 232: "Made up of clones, as well as human recruits, Imperial Stormtroopers are first-strike units sent into critical combat situations in support of both the Imperal Star Fleet and the Imperial Army." This might be a better reference for future stormtrooper articles, since the CSWE alludes to the Human species but doesn't outright say it. I'll let you know if I find anything on the TIE pilots, but I'm running out of places to look... (You could always start a Knowledge Bank thread on it, though; more people would see the question there.) ~ SavageBob 21:58, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks, is there a way to cite the Complete Visual Dictionary? And should the articles I just added (RGA-972 and NT-311) be cited with Complete Visual Dictionary, or can I keep the CSWE citations I added earlier today? Hanzo Hasashi 02:23, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • You can just cite the CVD normally; there's no special template for it. As for whether you should keep the CSWE sources or change it, I'd say you can probably leave your older ones as they are, you should probably start using the CVD, and for the ones that are currently nominated, change to CVD only if you feel like it. :) ~ SavageBob 03:03, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
    • Already done, thank you. And thanks for informing me about the Knowledge Bank, too.  :) Hanzo Hasashi 04:29, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

DV-523

For the record, please do not come begging me for votes. I will get to the article eventually when I have time. 1358 ^(Talk) 19:23, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

"So—are you still worried about being sent to the Agricultural Corps?" DV-523 has been approved by the AgriCorps and awarded Good status. Feel free to add the {{User GA}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The AgriCorps thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — 1358 (Talk) 19:23, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Davod Jon

"So—are you still worried about being sent to the Agricultural Corps?" Davod Jon has been approved by the AgriCorps and awarded Good status. Feel free to add the {{User GA}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The AgriCorps thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — 1358 (Talk) 18:38, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving CAN's

Hey, Hanzo. Just a reminder to follow all of the instructions for archiving successful CA nominations. Go for it! Menkooroo 02:41, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

• Whoops, seems I spoke too soon. Seems like you have it well in hand. Sorry! Menkooroo 02:43, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
  • No problem. Thanks for the reminder anyhow. Hanzo Hasashi 02:45, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
  • I think you got everything except this. I took care of it for ya, but definitely remember to update it next time. Also, be sure to add {{Subst:CA archive|successful}} at the top of each archived nom page, so that it'll be uneditable and look like this. Menkooroo 04:42, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
    • Thanks for both. With the archived nomination pages, I knew I was missing that part, but couldn't figure out what to do. It did not help that I could not even view the sources of past ones. But I saw that you took care of those by the time I went back to those pages to attempt to archive them. Hanzo Hasashi 05:04, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
      • Please add the revision numbers at the same time as the milestones. You are not in a hurry, so please follow proper procedure. 1358 ^(Talk) 19:32, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Self-archiving CANs

Hey, Hanzo. Again, I strongly recommend that you not archive your own noms to the CAN page. It's a conflict of interest in my opinion, since whoever archives a nom and either passes or fails it is supposed to also make sure that all objections have indeed been addressed. There is not a rule against self-passing and archiving, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. In short, there's no rush to get these entries off the page, so if you have a little patience, someone else will archive your successful noms for you. Sorry if this comes off as scolding; I really do appreciate the effort you put into your CA noms, and I'm glad you're so gung-ho about contributing. :) ~ SavageBob 22:20, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

• It's not just my own noms, I've archived any noms that have had either 2+ EC votes after at least 2 days or at least 4 votes if there's 1 EC vote after a full week in the past. I have also seen this done before by other users after enough time passed based on the number of votes. And I have only archived noms with all objections struck. Hanzo Hasashi 23:13, March 9, 2011 (UTC)
  • That's fine for other people's noms, but I'm just suggesting that it's a conflict of interest for your own stuff. And I'm not accusing you of doing anything wrong, so sorry if it came off I was saying you had archived things that shouldn't be archived. I'm just saying that, in principle, it would be better to let someone else do it. If I notice others archiving their own noms, I'll suggest that they not do so as well. In the end, this is just my opinion, of course. But it may be something we have to address in the future if others aren't as honest about it as you are. :) ~ SavageBob 00:03, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
    • Does the EC have the problem that the Inq had in the past of things just waiting days to be archived? This may be a symptom more than anything. Graestan^(Talk) 00:14, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
      • Sometimes, but seemingly not as much now. Hanzo Hasashi 02:06, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

The Corn Man

Hey! Yeah, the artwork from the side of the action figure packaging is definitely canon. Check out Keyan Farlander for a Featured article that uses it. I'll review Oxixo soon, I swear! Menkooroo 04:52, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Rokon

I would like to ask why you removed my added BTS sentence in Rokon. I did not suggest or argue that it was the inspiration or origin of the name; I just thought it may fit in the article, like with Csilla or Csaplar. Feel free to provide me with the explanation if I'm mistaken.—TK-999 20px^(Talk) 14:45, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

• See Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Hija, an ultimately successful nomination. On that nom, it was discussed whether Hija being Spanish for daughter is worth noting, and the conclusion was that, without proof of the Spanish word being the inspiration, it would not go into the BTS. Hanzo Hasashi 15:15, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining.—TK-999 20px^(Talk) 15:27, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

• No problem, your edit was in good faith, and I learned a Hungarian word that day. :) Hanzo Hasashi 15:30, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Vandolay

Thanks for the request, but I am not a quite good reviewer…—TK-999 20px^{(Rise of the Empire)} 15:20, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

• Alright, that's understandable. Hanzo Hasashi 15:31, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re: NT-311

Hey Hanzo, I didn't really contribute to the article per se—I didn't make any sort of copy-edit or prose fixes or anything; I just added the {{CAcleanup}} template because it shouldn't have been removed… I didn't have time to review the article yesterday, but I've reviewed it today. Jonjedigrandmaster ^(Talk) 14:30, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re: TK-622

Yeah, Akobi's entry is one of the victims of the Databank purge. In such cases, there are several possible solutions to access the data.

1. Look at the Internet archive like I did with Able. If this fails, then,
2. Check out this Chinese site, which basically includes all the databank entries. Here's Akobi's, for example.
3. Check The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia. There's a 99% chance that the entry's the same as the databank's one.

Hope that helps :) QuiGonJinn 20px^(Talk) 21:56, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

NT-311

"So—are you still worried about being sent to the Agricultural Corps?" NT-311 has been approved by the AgriCorps and awarded Good status. Feel free to add the {{User GA}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The AgriCorps thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — CC7567 (talk) 03:14, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Tantive IV

I think it would only be OK to say that they participated in the battle if it were a live-action shot on the card of one of the rebel troopers from the film. As it stands, I think it would unfortunately be speculation to say that they participated in the battle. Menkooroo 03:03, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Updating articles

Hello, Hanzo. I've noticed that you are frequently very enthusiastic to update a Featured or Good status article when you learn of new or missing information, particularly, it seems, articles I have helped write and nominate. Your boldness is appreciated, but, as the primary author and essentially the foremost monitor and caretaker of these articles, I would appreciate it even more if you would first give me an opportunity to add the update myself rather than jumping right in and trying to do the update as soon as possible. In this specific instance, I refer to Davin Felth. Simply sending me a talk page message or leaving a notice on the article's talk page will be sufficient to inform me that an update is required. Thanks. Toprawa and Ralltiir 17:27, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

• Hi, that is true I like updating various quality articles. However, I never really keep track of who's the one who originally nominated them, however the ones I am most familiar with are the minor movie characters, and coincidentally it appears you have done the most work on those ones. In any case, point taken, I shall from now on either leave talk page messages to the original nominators, or on the article in question's talk page. Hanzo Hasashi 19:58, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Dyer

Thanks; I'll take a look at the article when I have time. JangFett ^(Talk) 04:36, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

• Yeah, it needs to say "Dyer is part of Tempest Squad, Dyer commanded Tempest Squad" or something along those lines. In the Tempest article, do you know where Dyer is said to be a leader of it? I don't know where that or how Tempest originated, besides Igar and the AT-STs/AT-ATs. JangFett ^(Talk) 15:11, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
  • That's fine then. I don't think Dyer is part of the squad, unless it's mentioned somewhere. I don't think so, though. JangFett ^(Talk) 15:27, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Grond (Imperial)

"So—are you still worried about being sent to the Agricultural Corps?" Grond (Imperial) has been approved by the AgriCorps and awarded Good status. Feel free to add the {{User GA}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The AgriCorps thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — 1358 (Talk) 21:22, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Nothing?

I will but only if you can honestly tell me that you can't even infer anything about his personality. (if you can I'll put a vote in to support it). Darth Needham 17:53, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Captain Needa

If that is the case, I'll update the article once the book is released. Grand Moff Tranner 20px ^(Comlink) 18:17, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

CA Archiving

Hey Hanzo,

Just a heads-up that you archived Balith Civil War when I still had an unstruck objection. The objection was addressed, but it still needs to be struck. No need to undo the archiving here, but definitely be careful in the future. Cheers! Menkooroo 11:06, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

• No worries. It's not a big deal. :) Yeah, the objection was satisfied. Menkooroo 03:39, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Head-to-Head for Zuckuss and 4-LOM

Any new information from that book? Or is it regurgitated stuff from other sources? The Character Encyclopedia is already on my buying list (planning to grab that next week or so, actually), but if you happen to have the info from that, it'd be greatly appreciated. If I can get these outta the way prior to Zuckuss getting re-featured on the 17th, that'd be great. Trak Nar ^{Ramble on} 03:45, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

• Well as you can see from this forum, I own neither of these, but the user Sompeetalay, also one of the admins of the Dutch wiki Yodapedia, does, and he has updated articles with those sources on that site. It would appear that only Head-to-Head gives simply their heights in kilograms, which can also be done with real-world math. It doesn't seem like the Encyclopedia has anything new. Hanzo Hasashi 03:59, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Aloo there!

Hey! I noticed that you added the Character Encyclopedia as a (Picture only) source for Sim Aloo. Is it by any chance this picture? I'm on a source hunt for the dude with the tall hat. Thanks! Menkooroo 05:29, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Panno

Thank you, Hanzo. I'll add the information into the article. Grand Moff Tranner 20px ^(Comlink) 16:17, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hi!

Yeah, I'd be happy to do a pre-nom for him. I just checked the CSWE, and he doesn't have an entry. He does, however, appear in the ROTJ photocomic. The top of his face, from the eyes up, is visible in a screenshot of the rebel briefing. Nothing in the ROTJ comic adaptation, but I'll check the manga for ya. I'll get back to you with pre-nom results! Menkooroo 14:21, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

• You were right about the manga. Storybook should be available to me in about an hour. No way I'll be able to get the Disney Book and record. :P Hey, send me an e-mail at gradualferguson@hotmail.com. Some of these sources are easier to track down than you think, and I can tell you how! As for Midge, just two small things:
  • Mon Mothma inspiring him to join the Alliance would probably be at home in the bio, too.
  • "Destroyed" is used twice in a row when the Battle of Endor is discussed. Can you change one of them up?
  • All from me! Menkooroo 14:44, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
    • Satisfied like a fox! Menkooroo 15:18, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
      • Yes, I will! But first... I think you forgot to add it to the bottom of the GAN page. :) Menkooroo 02:12, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Chee on Facebook

If you're going to keep linking to Leland Chee's Facebook page, please link to specific posts. Linking to the main blog page will be useless after enough posts pile up to bury whatever fact you're trying to source. Under the top post in a thread, there will be a date or time, such as "X hours ago" or "Xday at X PM" which is actually a link to the individual post. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 17:39, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

• Alright, thanks for that. As you can see, Chee's just established more canon facts recently both today and yesterday. Hanzo Hasashi 18:25, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

You tawny boy

As you can see here, Yutani is in the Return of the Jedi Storybook, seated next to a glum-looking Lieutenant Page. You could probably say that he's in Return of the Jedi 3 --- although we don't see the faces of either him or Page, we see their legs, and we know from the film that those are their legs. Xicer9 added it as an appearance for Page when I was writing him last summer, and I agreed with his logic. As he's sitting immediately behind the main characters, he's easier to spot than some of the other characters in the briefing scene.

In Star Wars Manga: Return of the Jedi 2, there's just white space behind the main characters, save for one panel which I've just e-mailed to you. There's a moustached-man behind them, in between the two H's, who actually looks a lot like Yutani. Considering the detail that the manga adaptations often go to to include miniscule characters in the background, I'd say that it's our man. Take a look for yourself.

He is in the photocomic, seated next to Page and behind the heros. He does NOT have a CSWE entry. Hopefully this helps! Let me know if you need anything else. Menkooroo 15:22, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

• Update: Something for the Sources section --- Return of the Jedi Official Poster Monthly 4 (Picture only) . We see everything but his head sitting behind Han in a screenshot of the briefing scene. Menkooroo 15:43, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

1. I'd recommend merging Heavy weapon specialist and Heavy Weapons Specialist. They're the same thing.
2. Can "Alliance Special Forces" in the infobox be sourced to the film, or should that be to the CCG card?
3. That's all. Good job! Although I'm wondering if the info about him carrying custom repulsorlifts might be more at home in Personality & traits. Not sure... think about it. Menkooroo 04:31, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

• Done, and the last one I indeed moved. Thanks for the prenom! Hanzo Hasashi 14:43, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

As far as Grond goes: I really have no idea. I'm just learning the ropes of the INQ Redux page, and I really don't know about the AC one. I'd recommend asking a member of the AC. Menkooroo 02:03, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re: AC redux

You're right, Grond may require a trip to the AC redux page given the amount of changes that have happened. I will bring this up at the next AC meeting on the 30th. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Kilson^{(Let's have a chat)} 04:34, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

• After taking a quick glance, the only two things I could find were these:
  • You might want to mention that he was stationed on Endor in the Intro, probably in the sentence where you mention Vader's arrival.
  • In the Bts, you need to make it clear that the original Grond in Episode 6 was not confirmed to be Grond at first. Also, try putting the Bts in chronological order of events that happened.

Otherwise, it looks good. Kilson^{(Let's have a chat)} 16:11, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, a GA that undergoes major editing after it passes needs to be put on the Redux no matter what. However, we will decide if it needs to be Reduxed at the meeting. Good job working through those objections. Kilson^{(Let's have a chat)} 21:15, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

• I would say yes. Kilson^{(Let's have a chat)} 21:20, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Midge

"So—are you still worried about being sent to the Agricultural Corps?" Midge has been approved by the AgriCorps and awarded Good status. Feel free to add the {{User GA}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The AgriCorps thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 15:17, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yutani

• Hey. I don't have Behind the Magic. I know Bob does, but he won't have access to it for a few more weeks. Menkooroo 03:59, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
• Hmmm... I think it might be prudent to add them here, yeah. I'll be happy to support them, however. :) Menkooroo 04:27, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yutani

"So—are you still worried about being sent to the Agricultural Corps?" Yutani has been approved by the AgriCorps and awarded Good status. Feel free to add the {{User GA}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The AgriCorps thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 10:54, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wallen

Perfect. Clean, clear, no assumptions. Menkooroo 14:35, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Bly

After a double-check, nope. I just forgot to remove the tag. Trak Nar ^{Ramble on} 17:18, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Brooks Carlson

"So—are you still worried about being sent to the Agricultural Corps?" Brooks Carlson has been approved by the AgriCorps and awarded Good status. Feel free to add the {{User GA}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The AgriCorps thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — CC7567 (talk) 20:05, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

John Lithgow?

In all honesty, I would unquestionably interpret "part of the ground assault team that infiltrated the Empire's shield generator station on the Forest Moon of Endor" as meaning that he was on Endor. "He was part of the team that infiltrated the shield generator" means, IMO, that he infiltrated the shield generator. It doesn't say "He was part of the team that, on a completely unrelated note, happened to also infiltrate the shield generator." Menkooroo 06:17, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Niktos

Oy. I've been told by more than one person (this guy included) that that very Leland Chee post is exactly WHY they're wrong in the first place. I can't tell them apart myself, so I'll let the revert stand, and hope you've got it right and the other folks have it wrong . . . jSarek 23:27, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

• Right, I knew the pics matched up with the Decipher cards, but I'd been given the impression that those cards contradicted other information, and that other information was ultimately ruled correct. That said, looking over what we have compared to what is posted in that comment thread, I'm inclined to believe you're correct. jSarek 23:43, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Junior novel

As far as I know, the junior novel's text is nearly identical to the regular novel, but condensed in various places. There might be a bit of paring down difficult prose, but I'm nearly certain that there isn't any new info, save for in the 2004 editions by Ryder Windham which contain a few references to the prequels. I haven't actually read any of the OT junior novels, but I did read the Shadows of the Empire junior novelization prior to reading the regular book, and I can tell you that the former was just a shorter version of the latter. So, uh, to summarize, there shouldn't be any new info in the junior novel on the stormies, as far as I know. :D Menkooroo 03:33, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Kagi

Yes, I will be nominating Kagi for GA status eventually. Grand Moff Tranner 20px ^(Comlink) 21:05, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Edits to Turr Phennir's brother

Hi Hanzo,

Just to let you know that i put Dark Curse source on Turr Phennir's Bro page is because it is the source of info for the behind the scenes section

also, just wondering if you would know how to make the redlink Older Brother on Turr Phennir page link to Turr Phennir's Brother page

Thanks alot

--Dkwolf27 19:19, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Hanzo

Have worked out how to pipelink now, thanks for your help. Thought i'd just stick with not having source on, to be honest you probably know alot more than me about what's needed & whats not. -Thanks again, not sure what happened to the welcome messages, they were there before --Dkwolf27 20:00, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Wookieepedian of the Month

Hey Hanzo! Many Congrats on winning WotM hands-down!--Cal Jedi8px ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 13:08, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

• Yawah!!! Unlimited yawah to you, my friend. :) MasterFred20px^(Whatever) 13:50, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
  • Thanks everybody! :) Hanzo Hasashi 02:18, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Terry McGovern

Thanks for the info. I've added it to the article. Darth Morrt 17:06, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you for the notice. Is there anything else from the text I should know? Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:33, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
• Updated Felth. Thanks again. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:38, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Chiraneau

While your assistance is appreciated, Chiraneau is technically still my charge. I'd appreciate it if you talk with me before making any further changes to the article. Thank you. Grand Moff Tranner 20px ^(Comlink) 00:10, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

DS-181-4

Heya. All the information I know about for DS-181-4 is put in. So I'd say remove the tag. But if I do find out more information I'll definitely add it in. StarsiderSWG 01:53, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Kosh

I've removed the story from the appearances section and made a Bts note per the AC consensus. QuiGonJinn 20px^(Talk) 17:38, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Stormtrooper FAN

Thanks, but it is not just grammar. The BTS should be copyedited, and I'm sure Toprawa or Tanner or some other will have many more objections that I haven't ever thought of. Darth Morrt 02:43, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

181st Imperial Fighter Wing

The citations that you removed were put in the article in that way due to the mix of information from varied sources. If you leave only the references at the end of the paragraph, then you are saying that both references contain all the information found in the paragraph, which is not the case. Gethralkin^Hyperwave 04:51, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re: The Price of Victory

Cabbel does not appear in The Price of Victory as far as I can tell.--Exiled Jedi 20px (Greetings) 22:53, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Arven Wendk

Hi Hanzo,

I originally believed that Arven was removed from the game, but when I went to Deeja Peak several weeks back, I actually found him in the city. So yeah, he was never removed from the game -- but his quests were (they were probably bugged or something). When you talk to him, he just says he'll have work later, or something like that. I took a new screenshot of him in-game which I'll probably put in the article later.

For the actual quest dialogue he used to have, I'd have to check the TRE files.StarsiderSWG 05:09, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, just saw your conversation. I took screenshots of Dee'ja peak and all NPCs there a few days ago and also talked to all NPCs to make sure I didn't miss a quest. Wendik's quests are still active, I did them myself yesterday. I guess you have to be a overt/combatant Rebel player when you talk to Wendik to get them. The final mission for him is still bugged btw. --Craven 19:58, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, the final mission seems to be bugged. It leads you to a location outside of Deeja Peak where you are supposed to destroy something. At least for me, there was only something that looked like a large piece of metal junk. Couldn't click or destroy it and nothing else happened. --Craven 02:04, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Vindoo and others

Hi again,

Yeah that Vindoo edit looks good. I'm not sure what ship he flies specifically in the game, but I'll try to figure that out. I've been slacking a bit on updating the articles, but I'll try to get around to those when I can. I'm just using this last week to grab as many more screenshots from SWG as I can.StarsiderSWG 03:54, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Third Rock from Endor's Sun

Hanzo! If you've finished up Janse, then I'm guessing that you're on Christmas break. How did the semester go? Also, I vaguely recall not answering some questions about something on the wook that you e-mailed me a few months ago... I'll dig those up. Anyway, on to John Lithgow.

The article looks really good. I recommend adding his species and sex to the intro; it might not be absolutely essential, but someone else will probably object to it or add it themselves.

I'd mention that he's a sharpshooter before going into the 4 ABY stuff --- introducing him as a former sharpshooter probably isn't the best way to chronologically do it. Definitely keep the mention that he's no longer a sharpshooter, but establish earlier on that he is one (in the intro and bio). Make sense?

Can the detail on Han and Chewie's brawl with the troopers be skimmed down? It would be good detail for an article on the mission, but it seems a bit much for an article on Janse.

The bio seems long enough for an image. Maybe the one you used in Brooks Carlson? Alternatively, if you got a screengrab from the film of him in the briefing, you could ask Culator or somebody to get an HD shot.

I have more of a suggestion than an objection: When I wrote Page, I got some good info on why Han recruited who he did for the strike team from The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook and the Rebellion Era Sourcebook. If you check out here: (Solo) had witnessed their loyalty and dedication,[13] and was aware of their resourcefulness and ability to devise creative situations.[15] If that's applicable to all of the strike team's members, it seems like it would do well in Janse's Personality and Traits. Something to think about. Sorry that I didn't think to bring this up when you wrote Brooks; if you like it, you could add it to his article, too.

Great job! Really good to see you back with another ROTJ nom. Do Avarik and Elsek next! Menkooroo 04:52, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

• I found it! It was on facebook: Hi Jeff, when you are online, is it logical, based on Janse's former employment with BlasTech, that he was affiliated with the Empire? From October 6. Sorry I didn't respond. :S I'd say.... no. But it looks like you decided the same. :) Menkooroo 04:59, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
  • Hmmm... maybe that info is only applicable to the strike team members who served at Echo Base. Page is confirmed to have been on Hoth by a buncha other sources, but I don't think that that's necessarily the case for everyone. Maybe it's better to leave that info out of Janse, then. Do you have access to The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook? If not, check your facebook.
  • Re: The sharpshooter edit --- if the CSWE calls him a "former" sharpshooter, that should be mentioned somewhere in the article. Menkooroo 05:15, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
    • No problem. Let me know what you find. I'll be (finally!) back in Canada on Monday and will have access to my full collection then. Menkooroo 05:22, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Marmor

Hellooooo!!!!

I think you're right about Marmor. I wouldn't assume anything based on the picture other than that he was doing something at some undetermined time. The article looks really good! I made a tiny copy-edit; "extra" didn't seem like the right wording for a card game, as it usually refers to someone standing in the background of a movie.

OK. Here's what The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook has to say about Solo's strike team:

When General Solo volunteered to assemble a strike team for the highly dangerous Endor mission, he went with a known quantity—the men of Hoth base. Solo had worked beside these exceptional men on the frozen ice world. He had seen their loyalty and dedication in action. He knew they had what it took to get the difficult job done.

Luckily these same men had been stationed with the fleet since their evacuation from Echo Base on Hoth. A quick call to Major Derlin and Solo had his team assembled in no time.

They were all volunteers, eager to strike a blow against the Empire. The events that unfolded during the assault on Hoth had hardened them into a solid veteran unit, and they were itching for revenge. Solo told them that this was going to be an extremely dangerous mission and they willingly, even eagerly, accepted the risks.

... There were eleven men under Derlin.

So! It seems to me... that we can definitively say that every commando on the strike team was also at Echo Base during the Battle of Hoth. I guess some updates to Janse and Brooks Carlson are in order. Looks like you can take them to the FAN page; they'll be over a thousand words for sure! :)

There's also some info on what the strike team is up to while they wait to rendezvous with Solo in the short story Night Attack. I think I need to update Page with a couple of sentences from it, too. I can e-mail a screenshot of it to you if you need it. Menkooroo 14:33, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

• If Janse joined the rebels after Hoth, then yeah, the only update needed is probably a BTS note explaining the discrepancy. I'll take a look at Brooks tonight or tomorrow. Menkooroo 18:13, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
  • You're going to bring Janse and Kensaric to the FAN page? Awesome! Yeah, I can prenom both of those today. Cheers. Menkooroo 18:46, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re:CAN archive

Done. I seen that it was ready to archive, but I usually work my way down the CAN page when I'm archiving. I went ahead and took care of it right now, though. Cheers.--Cal Jedi8px ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 22:34, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yutani

Hey. Sorry to make your life even harder, but: http://www.starwarsccg.org/cards/v7.htm Click on the "Captain Yutani with Blaster Cannon" card --- it looks like he fought in the Battle of Hoth! Menkooroo 13:51, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

• SCRATCH THAT! The Virtual Block sets are fan-made. They're not canonical. Phew. Menkooroo 13:54, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
• Hmmm... with all of these counter-examples popping up, maybe we can't say that guys like Kensaric and Brooks Carlson were definitely at Hoth? I don't know; what do you think? Menkooroo 21:29, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
  • Looking again at the text from The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook, I think that it's safer to assume that any given Endor commando was at Hoth unless otherwise indicated. If other Wookieepedians disagree, they can bring it up on the FAN page.
    
    I'm reading through Janse right now. The update is good, but I think that a lot of the info from Night Attack can be cut. Since the article is about Janse, and not about either Derlin or Delevar, details like "the scanners picked up a large target moving toward them. Derlin suspected that the contact was an All Terrain Scout Transport; his suspicions were proven when its twin spotlights were spotted in the distance." could be shortened to only get the essential information across --- something like "the scanners picked up an AT-ST coming toward them." would be enough. Details like "although he was afraid that the pilot would simply start blasting away at the forest now that his vehicle was blind and deaf" and "believing that the launcher contained an explosive round, and fearing that the resulting explosion would tip the Imperials off to their location" would definitely be important info for Derlin's article, but not so much for Janse's. Go through the Night Attack stuff and see what can be cut or shortened in order to keep the focus on Janse and the strike team, rather than on Derlin or Delevar. Menkooroo 21:38, December 22, 2011 (UTC)
    • The changes to Janse look great. I think that there's still a little too much info, though --- for the purposes of Janse's article, stuff like "Delevar grabbed the squad's Caspel launcher and loaded a smoke canister into it. Moving into a trench in front of the walker, Delevar took careful aim at the face of the cockpit and fired a grenade straight through the cockpit window." could probably just be "Delevar fired a smoke canister into the cockpit window." Go through and see if there are any other examples you think could be shortened. That kind of detail would be great for an article on the mission, but for Janse, it's best to get only the key points across when you're talking about what someone else is doing. See if you can do the same for Kensaric's and Carlson's articles, too.
      
      I talked to Toprawa on IRC, and he agrees that it's best to assert that Brooks Carlson and the other strike team guys were at Hoth. So I think we can safely lay that issue to rest. Phew! :) Menkooroo 03:35, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

The boys in camo

I just read Kensaric! The article is really good. I have one recommendation, though: For chronology's sake, mention that Kensaric has been stationed with the fleet since Hoth and promoted to Corporal before talking about the second Death Star.

Some recommendations for Kensaric, Janse, and Brooks: The bios are pretty long --- maybe split them into two sections? It might also be a good idea to use a different image for each article. I'm sure you can find some more relevant ones; it'll certainly be more interesting than using the exploding Death Star for all three of them.

In all three articles, there are a lot of short paragraphs. Can you combine some of them, thereby producing less paragraphs? Menkooroo 05:48, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Bald guy

I can't seem to find him in any of the adaptations. As for checking the film, to be honest, I think that that's something you should be able to do yourself. If you do find him, let me know what scene he's in, and I'll scour the comic adaptations and stuff really closely.

Final pre-noms for the strike team guys coming TONIGHT! Menkooroo 18:21, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

• Heya Hanzo,
  
  I still felt like there was way too much detail from Night Attack. I made an edit to Janse that cut a good amount of detail. Some things that I felt were extraneous included: detailing the types of weapon that everyone carried, giving too much context on Corporal Beezer, and specifying that every action was based on an order from Derlin. For an article about Janse, those aren't really important things to note. What do you think? Let me know. A couple more things: Those first two sub-sections of the biography are both very short; it might be best to combine them into one. And be sure to alternate the images from left to right. Make those kinds of changes to Kensaric and Brooks, too, and I'll be happy to support them on the FAN page! :) Menkooroo 05:35, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sources

Please remember to include the {{Imo}} tag next to items in article Sources lists that do not directly reference the article subject. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:26, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Chiraneau and others

"Assembled troops" sounds more like actual soldiers to me, so I'd say no. Grand Moff Tranner 20px ^(Comlink) 21:28, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Appo

No it did not. It mentions that he chased off Bail with other 501st members, but nothing about who said what. JangFett ^(Talk) 23:22, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Vul

It doesn't look like he's in any of the comics. For an obscure background Human, the PhotoComic was the best bet, but he wasn't even in there. GAN that man! Menkooroo 19:47, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Retired pilot

None of them actually contradict the movie, at least not in the scene with the pilot, as the meeting takes place several weeks before the events of the film. The two books clearly portray the same scene, but contradict each other. There's no clearly defined policy on this, but usually, if there's a large enough gap between the release dates of the contradicting sources, the newer source is treated as canon. However, in cases like this, where the two media were released almost at the same time, it is up to the author's discretion to choose either version of events for the main body, as long as the other one is described in the Bts. I chose the TPM novel here because there's just more biographical info there, like the Makem Te and the Kessel Run stuff. QuiGonJinn 20px^(Talk) 20:32, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Radio Drama Script

I don't, but I think Tope might. If he doesn't, he'll probably know who does. Menkooroo 04:25, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

• Hi! Just a heads-up that I removed The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook and Rebellion Era Campaign Guide from Kensaric's "Sources" section. We don't have a policy on it or anything, but I kind of feel like a mention of a group of eleven people is too many people to call it an Indirect mention of an individual person. I wasn't sure about it, but I think it would be similar to calling a mention of the twelve-person Rogue Squadron an indirect mention of each individual pilot, which doesn't seem right. What do you think? Menkooroo 21:43, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Cabbel

Hey Hanzo. Sorry this took so long. The Cabbel scene does not appear in the radio drama script either; the Tyrant's disabling is narrated from the Rebel command center. However, it may be worth noting in the article that, according to the radio drama script (possible the actual RD too, not sure), that his Star Destroyer's shields overloaded and it lost helm as a result of the ion cannon blast. Let me know if you have any other questions. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:05, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

• Hey, Hanzo --- I don't have Behind the Magic, no. I think Bob's the one to ask about that. Menkooroo 06:00, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

There is no Cabbel!

Hey there. Yeah, that info can be sourced to the Radio Drama itself. The line is "Destroyer Shield's overloading. She's losing her helm!"

As for s'Too Vees: I found Janse in the ROTJ Storybook, in the Ishi Tib action figure, in Star Wars Technical Journal (Volume Three), and in The Essential Atlas. He is not pictured in Galaxy Guide 5 or in The Complete Visual Dictionary --- they include a different picture of the Endor Briefing. Janse can be seen in the picture where Chewbacca is sitting down, but not in the picture where Chewbacca is standing up.

Bob is the guy to talk to for Chronicles and Behind the Magic. As for The Complete Star Wars Trilogy Scrapbook --- I have no idea. Sorry. Menkooroo 05:02, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, just saw this post on my watchlist and remembered that I own the trilogy scrapbook. It's the 2004 version and there's indeed an image of the Home One briefing in it. It's the same image as in the Technical Journal, so Janse's in it. --Craven 05:26, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Rodians in ANH

Thanks for the heads-up. I've added that to the Sources of the other two articles.—Cal Jedi8px ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 03:09, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Nizuc Bek

Hello Hanzo, I have checked Battle of Carkoon's article on Wookieepedia and there Nizuc Bek is listed as one of the casualties. So, if you say he isn't DEAD, but PRESUMABLY DEAD, I think you should also change Wookieepedia's article. I will put "presumiblemente" (presumably) next to Nizuc Bek's name on the Spanish article. You should do the same on your article.----Skenar ^(Discusión) 21:27, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Why you say that you are fine with Klaatu or Unidentified man in red pants being presumably dead, but not with Nizuc Bek? I think this three characters have THE SAME FATE: they were aboard the Khetanna when it exploded, and we don't know if they escaped or not. I agree with you with the fact that maybe "presumably" isn't what you were saying, but let's think about this: if we have to chose only ONE option, what is the most probably? That they escaped, or that they didn't escape? If we don't have proves of their escape, we can't say the escaped. But you could say that we also don't have proves of them being dead, and you are right. I suggest putting "it was unknown if he survived the Battle of Carkoon, as the Khetanna exploded with all the people who were inside". I hope i have written it well. Do you understand my point of view? I suggest writing it on Nizuc Bek/Klaatu/Unidentified man in red pants article, but if we have to put something on Battle of Carkoon article... uhm, i'm not sure... maybe we could put them in the casualties list, but next to them we put "uncertain fate"? That's one option, the other is ask Leland Chee by Facebok, maybe he has an answer for that.----Skenar ^(Discusión) 21:43, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

I think your way of thinking is correct. There are more reasons to believe that two characters we saw on the Khetanna a few minutes before its destruction are probably dead, than reasons to believe that Nizuc Bek is dead (I don't remember seeing him aboard). But as you say, i also would lean towards Nizuc Bek being dead. That's why I think we should put something like "it was unknown if he survived the Battle of Carkoon, as the Khetanna exploded with all the people who were inside" on his article, and something like "uncertain fate" on Battle of Carkoon article. And thank you for the kudos! (by the way, I have never heard that word). It took me a long time but I enjoyed because that's one of my favourite scenes.----Skenar ^(Discusión) 23:50, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the information! I have add it Giran and, when the article is created, I will add Yoxgit.----Skenar ^(Discusión) 22:29, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

SWG articles

Heya, no worries. I've been a little busy lately but I should be able to get all those up to date this week. I'll start on them tomorrow most likely. StarsiderSWG 01:59, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Kensaric

"So—you've finally made it in the big leagues!" Kensaric has been approved by the Inquisitorius and awarded Featured status. Please record your achievement here, and feel free to add the {{User featured}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The Inquisitorius thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — Menkooroo 20:31, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Hanzo! It's your first FA. Congratulations. You've been working hard for a long time on this site, and it must feel great to know that your work will finally be appearing on the front page! Have a great semester, and we all hope to see more FAnoms from you come summertime. Menkooroo 20:31, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Cabbel

The shuttle's class is not identified although it does list the class of the shuttle they stole from the Imperials on the Tyrant as a Lambda-class shuttle. However, The Price of Victory indicates that they boarded a different shuttle on Hoth when taking Madine to the Champion.--Exiled Jedi 20px (Greetings) 23:45, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Cabbel

"So—are you still worried about being sent to the Agricultural Corps?" Cabbel has been approved by the AgriCorps and awarded Good status. Feel free to add the {{User GA}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The AgriCorps thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — CC7567 (talk) 04:56, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Palso Thern

Palso Thern is of sufficient length to be GAed. It is my suggestion that you nominate it as-is. graestan^(talk) 20:15, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

• 247 words by my count- a bit short. Hanzo Hasashi 20:18, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Janse

"So—you've finally made it in the big leagues!" Janse has been approved by the Inquisitorius and awarded Featured status. Please record your achievement here, and feel free to add the {{User featured}} template to your userpage to acknowledge your hard work. The Inquisitorius thanks you for your efforts, and looks forward to future nominations from you! — Menkooroo 05:22, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Hey hey, Hanzo! Here is your second FA. Great job, and as soon as college allows it, we hope to see lots more from you. Menkooroo 05:22, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Cha'a and Gank Killers

Hi Hanzo. I saw the good edits that you made to Cha'a and Gank, and I wondered if you would be interested in helping me review some of our WookieeProject Aliens: Good articles. I would like to work my way through these doing a check for redirects, missing links and a few other points. I started from "A" and have been working downward. Let me know if you are interested in helping me out with some of this as part of your contribution to the Wookieepedia. If so, I will let you know a couple of things in particular that I am looking out for. --Eyrezer 10:21, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

• Yeah sure I can look through them. Though it won't be as expediently, or at once, then when I was working through the remaining GAs from the time that WP did not have standards. And good job for rewriting Tresk Im'nel back in 2010; two years later you saved me a bit of the work I chose to do. :) Hanzo Hasashi 00:30, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
  • Great. In that case, you want to work from "Z" upward? The other thing to look out for is that some of the infoboxes will need to be refreshed as there are now some new fields in the Species template (i.e., designation, class, habitat, diet and mass). --Eyrezer 01:33, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • Sure thing. As for the infobox thing, I remember a while ago, with the new infobox code released, I made a bot request for all infoboxes to be automatically fixed, though evidently nobody decided to respond to that. Hanzo Hasashi 21:09, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
      • I asked too, but was told it could not be done. --Eyrezer 22:13, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Dyer

Hey Hanzo, since I'm away from my house, I'll take a look through my sources on Monday and let you know. IIRC, Renz's dialogue was merged with Dyer's in a few sources. JangFett ^(Talk) 13:51, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Wallen

Hey, Hanzo. Sorry for the late reply. I just checked BTM, and Wallen seems to be both pictured and indirectly mentioned, assuming he is the stormtrooper who speaks in the scene. The other two troopers are pictured as well. Hope this helps! ~Savagelink=User talk:SavageBob 23:28, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks, no worries about the lateness, I was too busy to have any involvement in yesterday's April Fool's pranks. I assumed there was nothing new to offer, thanks for giving the info. Hanzo Hasashi 22:09, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
  • Addendum: having read your post more thoroughly, does the script clearly mention him, or does it omit mentioning him, as he does not have speaking lines. Hanzo Hasashi 22:13, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
    • The script only mentions the stormtrooper who has the speaking role. I'm not sure which stormtrooper that is, but he's the only one who gets a nod. ~Savagelink=User talk:SavageBob 23:46, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
      • None of the troopers in that scene have a speaking role, but Commander Igar (called "Commander" in the Blue Harvest online script) does.
        • OK, it must be him, then. "He was armed only with this." That guy. ~Savagelink=User talk:SavageBob 23:57, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
          • Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi 23:59, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Removing GAcleanup tags

Hey Hanzo, while it is appreciated that you are helping out, please be aware that you must keep the {{Gacleanup}} tags in the article, as they still probed until otherwise noted in the talk page. It is also helpful for me to actually see the tag so I won't make any errors while I'm completing the paperwork. Thanks, JangFett ^(Talk) 23:39, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Mmmm... Wookiee-Cookie...

Trak Nar has awarded you a Wookiee Cookie! For your dedication to sprucing up the old Featured Articles and their continued status on this wiki! - Trak Nar Ramble on 04:51, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Nala

Hey, Hanzo. Nala Hetsime needs an update for The Essential Guide to Warfare. I can take care of it if you'd like, or I can get you the info if you want to do it. It's not very much. Let me know! Menkooroo 02:58, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

• I think it is going to push him over 250 words. It gives his homeworld and some more details about his role at Hoth. I'm happy to take care of it, but I'd feel bad if I brought it over 250. Lemme send you a scan of the page on which he's mentioned. Menkooroo 16:21, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I'd be happy to. I should have the four of 'em done before the day is done. Also, it looks like we have a picture of Oxixo without his helmet. Menkooroo 17:31, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
    • No, I mean, his infobox picture should be without his helmet. Menkooroo 17:33, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
      • Yeah! Probably best to crop out the Rebelscum logo, though. You can get a bigger and higher-quality image of Palso from RebelScum, too. Menkooroo 17:39, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
        • Image looks great. A few things about Nala: The article looks good, although the double "served" in the intro could be changed. There are a few more details from Warfare, too, such as Cinda Tarheel being his gunner, and their T-47 making it through the battle without being shot down. There are some details on the previous page about members of Rogue Flight, Blue Squadron, and Green Squadron being pressed into service as Rogue Group; in light of them, simply saying that he was "stationed on Echo Base on the planet Hoth[3] as part of the Rebel Rogue Squadron" isn't quite accurate.Menkooroo 17:53, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
          • Is there any proof that he was a Rogue before Hoth? Since the "Rogue Group" of Hoth is referred to as "Rogue Squadron" in countless other sources, I think the trading card's ID of him as a member of Rogue Squadron could very well just be referring to the Battle of Hoth. Maybe he was in Blue or Green Squadron before? I dunno. Menkooroo 18:12, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
            • What I mean to say is "he was stationed on Echo Base on the planet Hoth[3] as part of the Rebel Rogue Squadron" is suspect. Maybe he was stationed on Hoth as part of Blue or Green Squadron and only pressed into service as a Rogue when the Imps attacked. It'd probably be more accurate to say he was stationed on Hoth as a starfighter pilot, then mention that when the Imps attacked, members from the three squads were pressed into service as Rogue Flight. No assumptions as to which of those three squads he originally called home. Make sense? Check out the beginning of the "Duty Roster" section I sent you. Menkooroo 20:02, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think that image is enough to place him at the battle, no. Like you said, it could just be a patrol or something. Let me know when you're all done and the inuse tags gone, and I'll be happy to prenom. :) Menkooroo 21:01, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

• Here's the Nala prenom:
  • His trading card refers to him as a T-47 airspeeder pilot, but it seems like that's specifically in regard to the Battle of Hoth --- ie, he piloted a T-47 during the battle. I don't know if it can generally be said that "He served as a T-47 airspeeder pilot for the Alliance to Restore the Republic." That seems a little weird.
  • The bio ends with a number of short, choppy sentences. Can you clean this up?
  • Since we can definitely say that he was a member of one of those three squadrons prior to the battle, they should be mentioned before the battle is mentioned, with the text indicating that Nala was part of one of them. This might be tricky to word without using weasly sentences such as "He was either a part of Squadron A, B, or C," but this is what I suggested to 501st Dogma. Take a look and see what you think.
  • Do you think the BTS should mention Warfare? Menkooroo 03:15, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

First GA

Hey, Hanzo. Since we voted to give the Good article queue a twelve-week float, Vul Tazaene ended up being the first ever Good article to be showcased on Wookieepedia's Main Page. Congratulations! You can now brag before anyone else can. Menkooroo 00:37, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hakin

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Nala Hetsime

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One more

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Chall

Done, baby! See the CAN page. Menkooroo 17:30, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Bachenkall

Hey, Hanzo, sorry for the late reply. Bachenkall is indirectly mentioned in all the scripts, which mention the controllers. He is not pictured or mentioned by name in BTM, though. Hope this helps! ~Savagelink=User talk:SavageBob 18:49, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Bob

Hey! Yeah, I would love to help you out with Hudsol. Really glad to see someone trying to take him to GA status. :) I found him in a few sources here when I was looking for the other guys from Insider's latest "Rogues Gallery," but I'll see if there are any more later today.

Some preliminaries: Some of the references have too many sources in them. Ref [1] only needs to have one of the encyclopedias, ref [11] doesn't need to source both the game and the strategy guide, and ref [5] doesn't need more than one website. Refs [5] and [9] would benefit from {{Cite_web}}, and ref [9] should point to where the script can actually be found (see Ristt to find out where). Feel free to rewrite anything Skippy left if you think it would benefit from rewording. Menkooroo 19:07, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Grondorn

Sure, I'll go ahead and fix that up right now as best I can. StarsiderSWG 15:07, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

• Bonjour! Yes, I shall look at your muse.
  • Infobox needs to be reloaded.
  • Are there any applicable categories for his membership in the Corellian militia? Also, shouldn't it be under "affiliation" in the infobox?
  • Check out Wookieepedia:Manual of Style/Proper use of the dash for the leading quote.
  • Could the intro mention species and sex?
  • The BTS is a little lacking in context in regards to ANH.
  • Ref [3] should indicate which expansion of Galaxies he was in.
  • I'm confused by the random link on "Quest" in the BTS...
  • I wonder if the BTS image might work on the right side. I always hate it when the bullets in the "Appearances" section are pushed over. Give it a try and see what you think.
  • And, finally... let's get some quotes for the bio and P&T! Craven or Starsider might be able to help with that. Menkooroo 20:01, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
    • Cool. The skin color field is still missing from the infobox. Menkooroo 20:28, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
      • I can help with these things. I have screenshots of all his quotes in the game, so I'll add in some of those, including personality traits. Basically, I linked "quest" in the BTS pretty much for the same reason I did in the "good article" Imperial Oasis. Basically just to show people what a "quest" exactly is in the context of the game. However, if it's redundant, you could just go ahead and remove that. StarsiderSWG 22:21, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
        • Ah, I just realized the "quest" didn't redirect properly. It should work now to go to SWG Wiki. StarsiderSWG 22:24, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Palejo

Hey, I'll see what info I can find on that guy. I actually can't recall seeing him in-game, but I'll check my screenshots to be sure. StarsiderSWG 00:10, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

• Hi again. I've pretty much updated the Palejo and TK-577 articles to the best of my ability. There wasn't so much to expand upon regarding TK-577 from an in-universe perspective. The player would pretty much choose to hunt down and kill TK-577. It could be on pretty much any planet, and I'm not aware of any dialogue regarding it. StarsiderSWG 01:28, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
  • Okay, TK-577 was armed with a DL44 XT, not an E-11. There is a screenshot to verify this. For close range combat, he used a vibro knuckler. You may also want to include that the bounty for him in the game offered 25,000 credits, and these credit values varied for each of the ten fugitives. StarsiderSWG 22:52, May 22, 2012 (UTC)
    • I went ahead and update the article actually. Feel free to modify it as you see fit. You may also want to source the mention of his use of the E-11 in the cards. StarsiderSWG 23:03, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Character Encyclopedia

I don't actually have it. Sorry. Ask around in IRC; I think Culator might have it. Menkooroo 02:12, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

re:

Hey! I won't actually be on the Wook a lot for the next two weeks. I don't have any time for reviewing right now. Sorry! I'll strike my objection to Bob but I won't be able to give a full review for a while. Menkooroo 00:44, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

• I just finished resolving Janus Greejatus's outstanding issues. That's about all I can do for now; I may have time for a prenom tomorrow, but as I'm midway through doing one for LelalMekha I should probably finish that first. Sorry again! Menkooroo 02:58, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Evram Lajaie

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Brooks Carlson FA

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R3

Thank you for taking care of the update for me. However, I was aware of it. JangFett ^(Talk) 13:04, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

• No worries, Hanzo. :P JangFett ^(Talk) 13:59, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Prenom GAN review

Hey, Hanzo. I'm sorry, but I don't really do prenom reviews. I will try and look at it when you nominate it, though; it looks like an interesting article. Sorry again, and good luck with the nom.—Cal Jedi8px ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 15:11, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Chall Bekan

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Checking Star Wars BTM

Hello Hanzo Hasashi. I'v heard that you needed something checked in Star Wars: Behind the Magic. It's right here on my desk, ready to be used if you want. --LelalMekha 20:27, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

• I'll be searching for it tonight, and if find anything, I'll let you know. ;-) --LelalMekha 20:48, June 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Well, it's been really quick, I assume you know what that means. Unfortunately, I couldn't really find anything of interest, at least anything you don't already know. The "scene by scene" feature of BTM does mention the cutscene, but does not give names: "Warning sign. A Rebel Alliance sign that prohibits entry into that particular area of Echo Base. The sign is present because, in an earlier version of the shooting script, the Rebels have imprisoned several wamps behind the door shown here. As he is fleeing from Echo Base, Threepio pulls the sign from the door. Advancing snowtroopers then unwittingly enter the room, where they are mauled. The scene was cut, but the sign remains visible here." Somewhere else, it is also repeated that "a group of snowtroopers" unwittingly stumbled into the room. No specific mention of your two friends, I fear. But there are three different shots of the snowtrooper squad at the very moment they were entering the room of doom. Kind of disappointing. :-/ --LelalMekha 21:18, June 7, 2012 (UTC)
    • Don't mention it. If you ever want to have the said pictures, I have taken screencaps, just in case. --LelalMekha 21:46, June 7, 2012 (UTC)
    • The screengrabs from BTM can be found under the category "images of snowtroopers" ("To the wampa room.JPG" and "To the wampa room2.JPG") if you want to use them in the BTS, for example. --LelalMekha 14:27, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
      • If I am to believe the scene itself (as shown here[1]), looks like Narthax was the one who opened the door. But there something strange, though: the pictures I took from BTM do not seem to come from this scene... --LelalMekha 15:40, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
        • The clip seems to be the genuine deleted scene, though. You should ask someone who has the Blu-ray edition of the Trilogy, which has all the cut material. --LelalMekha 15:49, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
          • Then I have no clue. All I can say is that the pictures from BTM seem to indicate they all entered the room, while the actual clip shows only one of them did. That's a nice lil' discrepancy we've found here.--LelalMekha 15:55, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
            • They don't make it obvious on their own. Only in conjunction with the actual clip *and* the assumption that Bursk is the one behind Narthax. --LelalMekha 16:02, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
              • I made a comparsion too. See here: [2]. I believe it can be said that Narthax was the one who opened the door. --LelalMekha 16:32, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
                • Then I guess you've got everything you need to work on those articles. ;-) --LelalMekha 17:43, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Stuff

Hey, Hanzo. I'm back from my two-week break. I'll be able to do a source check for Palejo tomorrow, but can you let me know exactly where he is in ROTJ first? A screenshot would probably help, yeah. Cheers! Menkooroo 03:06, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Bob Hudsol

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TK-577

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Trey Callum and Ozzel in SWG

Hey Hanzo. Trey Callum was not explicitly named in the game, but yeah, he appeared in the comm window during the Battle of Hoth instance. I uploaded an image of him, where he's wearing some helmet that covers his entire face. In the game he just said the line from the film, "Imperial walkers spotted on the ridge" or something like that. So yeah, not really any new information there. File:TreyCallum.jpg|thumb Ozzel... I think his only mention in SWG was during at least one of the loading screens, where a line from the movies is quoted to Ozzel. He may have been mentioned at least once in some quest dialogue or item description, but I'm not positive on that. Will have to double check. StarsiderSWG 23:07, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

hth: [3] --91.67.137.81 13:03, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Mother, May I?

I know. That's why I was tweaking it again. I'll put it up for GAN once I get it read by someone else. NaruHina ^Talk 14px 00:17, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

• Just making sure. Yeah I saw that you were doing more edits and adding more words, but I wasn't sure if making it a GA was your intention or not. Hanzo Hasashi 00:25, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
  • That was always my intention. ;) Two-hundred-forty-something words with nothing to add?! Fuuuuuuuuuuu NaruHina ^Talk 14px 00:38, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Bursk

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Stormie

Hey. I found him in the Manga and the Special Edition comic. The ANH novelization, Death Star, and The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader are good candidates that should be checked --- check your e-mail. Menkooroo 05:09, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

• Yeah, that seems like an appearance in Rise and Fall. His scene isn't in the radio drama, which is with Leia and Raymus in another room when the shooting starts. Menkooroo (talk) 16:37, June 26, 2012 (UTC)
  • No problem. Also, if Rise and Fall describes the stormies being shot down, then it would be an appearance rather than a mention. Maybe an indirect appearance. Not sure. Menkooroo (talk) 16:49, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Narthax

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Muse

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Hanzo! Swell stuff. Very swell indeed. Who's next on your hitlist? Ol' Saint Nick himself? Menkooroo (talk) 04:26, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Hume Tarl

Since he served 6 years in Tempest force, and the engagement at Endor happened in 4 ABY, he would have been part of Tempest Force during the Tantive raid. I guess we can't be for certain that he was temporarely part of the 501st, though the wording could go like this in the article: Hume Tarl fought beside the members of the 501st legion... I think putting the 501 in the affiliation part of the info box would be fine since he was affiiated with them. As to him being a clone, I agree with you. Since he was a native of Corellia, and since he rose to a Sergeant, we can reasonably assume he was not a clone. 501st dogma^(talk) 11:52, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

• I have a question about Hume Tarl: In the Star Wars Customizable Card Game cards, do the pictures on the cards come from the Movies? I can't find Tarl's exact picture for some reason, but here, in the first few seconds someone walking like Tarl (compare the pictures) exits the bunker. Should I continue looking for Tarl, or is that Tarl walking out of the bunker? 501st dogma^(talk) 17:51, July 24, 2012 (UTC)
  • Good, because currently the article says he was the one who got tapped on the shoulder by Solo. Thanks, 501st dogma^(talk) 18:24, July 24, 2012 (UTC)
    • Thanks for pointing that out. I think it does count as a mention, even though its just a {{Po}} (the page looks as though the top was cut off, so it would have shown the entire Tarl). 501st dogma^(talk) 21:00, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Trooper

In the Trooper comic, the first casualty is actually the sergeant in charge of the stormtrooper boarding party. He and his men are lined up in the Devastator's hangar, waiting for the Tantive IV to come aboard. Vader approaches them and says "This Rebel vessel is a vital prize, sergeant. Your men had better be up to the task." He says "Th—they are, my Lord—!" The sergeant then points at the trooper and says "You! You go in first." The trooper sets a charge to blow the hatch inward, which causes the rebels to flinch and gives them an extra second. It works, and the trooper survives. The sergeant, however, is the first to fall, and the trooper thinks Bad luck, Sergeant—I went in first and I'm alive. Menkooroo (talk) 20:58, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

RE: CUSWE

Hey Hanzo! :) I do know CUSWE is non-canon, but it actually worries me to tell the user they can refer to a source that has inaccurate information. I'm not saying the Wook is always accurate, but that still makes me worried. By the way, if you need anything checked in Behind the agic, just tell me what is it that you need, and I'll do it now. --LelalMekha (talk) 23:22, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

• I don't know if you expected anything else about those two stormies, but there you are. Here[4] is a screengrab of the script for that "swing-above-a-shaft" scene. I've also transcribed those two bits of information:

1. "Death Star Bridge. An extendable catwalk which allows passage over the central core shaft. The bridge is controlled by a small panel, whihc Luke destroys at the beginning of the scene."
2. "Service shaft. A deep well employed in circulating and recycling the Death Star’s atmosphere* Falling into the shaft spells certain doom. However, during filming the set wwas only a few feet from the ground and the shaft’s abyssal depth was created through a matte painting; stuntmen playing stormtroopers only fell a short distance before being caught by a mattress."

Not sure if this helps you, but who knows? This may come handy for the BtS or the narrative. If you need anything else that could be checked in BTM, just let me know. --LelalMekha (talk) 00:09, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

• • Well, yes, I *think* one of them was pictured. Let me have another look and I'll let you know ASAP. --LelalMekha (talk) 17:21, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
  • There we go. As you can see for yourself here, the three stormies are pictured to illustrate the second shot of the scene (whih BTM labels as "scene 56"). --LelalMekha (talk) 17:33, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Dyer

Just like the film novelizations and comics, the radio drama is just an extension of the films. I see no contradiction other than some more dialogue for Dyer. Had Dyer said the line outside the bunker or not in the correct spot, then I could see it being an issue. There are moments, and I could find an example, where scenes in the films do not match the same scenes in the film's novelization, but both are still canon. JangFett ^(Talk) 00:56, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

• Just like in the film's novelizations, ect, certain scenes that are included in the novels do not specifically fit in the film. JangFett ^(Talk) 01:04, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
  • I understand, Hanzo, but I still do not see any contradictions to the film. I have explained the dialogue extension in the bts prior to adding the quote in the bio. I know you're reading the article, but keep in mind, the article is not 100% completed. JangFett ^(Talk) 01:10, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
    • While I appreciate your concern, please know that I am aware of the entire article's current state. If you feel that the radio drama is contradictory, I will see what I could do to make it satisfactory, but I personally cannot see anything wrong with it. As I mentioned before, the radio drama is just an extension of the films. As the article is still undergoing editing, the radio bit in the bio might not even be included in the final article. Do not worry man. :P JangFett ^(Talk) 01:17, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Palejo Reshad

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• Hey, sorry, I don't. Can't seem to find it anywhere. Menkooroo (talk) 20:00, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Two troopers in the shaft

Hey Hanzo. Did you know Star Wars Insider Special Edition 2010 had in interview with stuntman Peter Diamond, in which the "Death Star chasm swing" is mentioned? No new or specific info about the stormies, but a nice series of BtS images of the falling stuntman. --LelalMekha (talk) 00:18, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

• It is difficult to say. In fact, there aren't any written info about the falling storms, but only four pictures of a storm stuntman falling (three represent the actual fall, while the last one shows the stuntman landed on a mattress). Judging by the pics, the falling storm is apparently the first one to be shot. --LelalMekha (talk) 01:03, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
  • Let me hereby provide you with a scan of the aforementioned pics.--LelalMekha (talk) 01:12, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
• Objection #1: Why isn't there more Mountain Dew in the article? I want some Mountain Dew. I'd also accept crab juice.
• Number two (this one's a real one!): The intro is huuuuuuge. It looks almost as long as the bio. I think it should be cut down significantly (like, by half). As the intro should only get the most essential info across, specific details should be jettisoned in favor of more general summaries. As a starting point, everything after "evading TK-875's blaster fire" could probably be summarized as "The Alliance later destroyed the station." But more than that should go. Menkooroo (talk) 19:31, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
  • Good job. Any chance a little more could go? It's still a tad long. Menkooroo (talk) 19:41, July 31, 2012 (UTC)
• Cool. I don't really have time for a full prenom right now, so feel free to nom whenever. Although a recent edit summary seemed to imply that you added a source based on a guess that he was mentioned in it. That doesn't seem right. Menkooroo (talk) 19:53, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

SWG Pilots

Heya. Yeah, any of the factional pilots associated with that particular collection could take part in the battles. It was all randomized though. StarsiderSWG (talk) 01:06, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

3,654 BBY

Could you add at least one event to that article, so it looks like it has a reason to exist. NaruHina ^Talk 14px 22:40, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

RE: NPR radio drama

• I'll have to look. This week is very busy for me IRL, but I will try to get back to you this weekend once I've had a chance to check around on my collection. Atarumaster88 20px ^{(Talk page)} 05:12, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
  • Just to update, I've been looking around in my collection, but I haven't been able to find it. I'll keep an eye out for it, but no promises. Sorry. :/ Atarumaster88 20px ^{(Talk page)} 02:14, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Bast

Yeah, I am planning on too, Hanzo. JangFett ^(Talk) 13:26, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Irol

All right, Hanzo. Let me check this right now and I'll let you known ASAP. ;-) --LelalMekha (talk) 17:18, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

• Well, there we are: that picture of Irol was featured in the "Scout troopers" entry of Behind the Magic, being one of the pictures within the entry's "Image Gallery". Nothing very interesting, though. The captions says "A scout trooper aboard his speeder bike guards the Endor shield generator." And that's all about it. However, I suspect the second picture in the gallery actually features the same, although from a different angle. The caption on this 2nd picture merely says: "Scout troopers served as sentries on Endor". --LelalMekha (talk) 17:49, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Captain and stormtrooper

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Re: Insider article

Hey Hanzo. The article in question is in fact contained within a large portfolio called "The Cast". --LelalMekha (talk) 21:10, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

See! Eh!

Hanzo!

I need your help. You've written a lot of Comprehensive articles, and you're currently nominated to be an EC. I was wondering if I could get your thoughts on CAs and the CA writing process. I'm hoping to write a Wookieepedia NewsNet article similar to this one, where I give the reader the gist of what CAs are all about and then share the thoughts of some people who are and have been pretty involved in the process. I'd ask you two simple questions, and then work the answers into the prose rather than making them bulleted question-and-answer kinda things.

Are you interested? I could ask you the questions here or via e-mail. Let me know! Menkooroo (talk) 18:43, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

The article has been written! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I was able to include almost everything that you and the other two interviewees said, but I had to cut a little bit due to length. With your help, the article is much more interesting than it would have been had it just been me blabbing on. Thanks again! It should show up on the Main Page within a couple of days. The RSS feed just needs to update. Menkooroo (talk) 05:40, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

EC

Congrats on elevation to the EC, Hanzo! Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:56, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

• Congrats, Hanzo. Have fun with your new template. :P —Cal Jedi8px ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 03:01, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Braconner Bakiska

Yes it was a mistake, thanks for catching it.--Exiled Jedi 20px (Greetings) 23:40, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for spotting that, I think I can also expand on the article slightly from that blog post.--Exiled Jedi 20px (Greetings) 03:52, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Project Novels

By any chance would you be interested in joining the project. Just get back to me when you can if you interested in joining. DarthRevan1173 12px (Long live Lord Revan) 22:50, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

Stormie, stormie, scoutie

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Fact File

Hey, sorry for the delay. I swear I didn't forget about it; I couldn't find 111 in my fact file collection yesterday, but now I'm at work and I realized that it's probably with my Bultar Swan notes. I don't have the internet at home right now and I don't have my hard drive at work, hence the delay. Anyway, glad you found it. Menkooroo (talk) 03:58, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Copy-edit request

Hello there, Hanzo. In my FA nomination IFYLOFD suggested I need to have someone do a copy-edit for the article and Culator said you are good at that sort of thing. Could you lend a hand in that, please?--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 19:57, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks. I'm pretty busy, too, so I can understand that. But there is always some time for Wook.--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 20:14, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

Re: SW Insider 106

I've just checked in the article, and that mention of "ineffectual Imperial antagonists" seems to be a general statement about all the Imperials in the Holiday Special. So yes, the Commander would be one of those. --LelalMekha (talk) 16:50, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

• Why yes, I may add that. Thanks for the tip, Hanzo. ;-) --LelalMekha (talk) 16:57, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Tempest Force

Sorry, that was a mistake. It's been fixed. 501st dogma^(talk) 21:31, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

Jurokk

I don't recall seing him, but I'll check this out soon. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 14:43, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Update completed. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 14:36, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Tracer

CC convinced me that he is dead (sadly) and I change it accordingly in the near future. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 15:10, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Update done. Clone Commander Lee ^Talk 13:37, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Bail Antilles

Good catch, Hanzo. There's absolutely no evidence that Bail Antilles had died by the time of the Galactic Civil War. The "long after his death" part comes from a former stage of the article's history, when there was no mention of the Rebel agent and only a reference to the other Bail Antilles of the Sith–Imperial War. The sourcing was also a bit confusing: A Guide to the Star Wars Universe was only used to explain what the Galactic Civil War is. It has now been fixed. Hope it's clearer. :) (By the way, that "legacy" paragraph is really poor... I'm not sure three sentences deserve their own section. Ideally, I'd like to include a mention of the destruction of Alderaan, but I'm also not sure that would be legit or even useful.) --LelalMekha (talk) 10:49, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Olander

Sorry for the huge delay on this one. I couldn't find him in any of the comic or storybook adaptations, unless he's the guy on the far right here, in which case he's in the Return of the Jedi Storybook. If that's not him --- do you know where he can be found in the film? Menkooroo (talk) 14:37, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

• Do you know where he's standing in relation to Madine? I might be able to find him in some sourcebooks that use film screencaps of Madine. Menkooroo (talk) 00:11, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

M'Kae expansion

Certainly. I'll find some info from SWG to update M'Kae. I think he only had a minor blurb of an appearance, so it shouldn't be too much work. StarsiderSWG (talk) 00:34, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

• He was identified as Officer M'kae in the game, with a lower case "k". But if the original sources capitalize it, it might be a better idea to move it to M'Kae. SWG often made a habit of violating those minor details. Also, M'Kae was part of an extinct questline in SWG, so there's no screenshot of him or anything from the game, but he appears in the TRE files. I might expand the BtS a little bit more later. StarsiderSWG (talk) 21:14, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
  • No, he and the quests did appear on all the live servers, and could be completed by the players. But when Restuss was destroyed in the "Battle of Restuss", M'kae was removed from it, making the questline uncompletable at that point. StarsiderSWG (talk) 23:37, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • He almost certainly did have at least a few quotes, but I may be hard pressed to find any. I'll search my TRE files to see if I can extract any of his quest dialogue. StarsiderSWG (talk) 02:07, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Thrass copy-edit

Hi again, Hanzo. I'm back bothering you with another copy-edit request, this time on Thrass's FAN. Do let me know if you have time to do one. Thanks.--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 13:00, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks a million, Hanzo.--Dionne Jinn (Something to say?) 19:10, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Film guys

Sure, just let me know where in the film each one appears. Menkooroo (talk) 23:49, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

• Forget Feyn Gospic --- who's that guy with the awesome 1970s beard behind him? If you GAN Feyn Gospic I think you should find a better image; a film screenshot would be better quality than the CCG image. Anyway, Gospic is, randomly enough, in the fourth issue of the Special Edition comic, but Yerka is not. Cariso might be --- you could probably include both the Special Edition comic and the Manga as (Possible appearance) for Cariso, using the logic from Chad Hilse's BTS. Yerka and Gospic aren't in the Manga. Nobody's in the Marvel adaptation or the photocomic. Actually, Cariso might be in the photocomic. I'll e-mail you the relevant pages and you can figure it out. Nobody's in Contemporary motivators.

ESB guys: Nemet and the Unidentified one are in the photocomic, but M'kae isn't --- after the shot of Needa saying "Continue to scan the area," we see no more of him (his death is left out). All three are in the manga! Issue 3 of 4. Nemet's in Marvel Issue 42, as is M'Kae, although he seems to be a (Voice only). Nemet's line is different; I'll e-mail you the page. I don't have the storybook or the junior novelization. None of them are in the radio drama, which skips the scene in favor of including one where Needa confronts Vader and accepts full responsibility. Nemet and M'Kae are in the novelization, but the unidentified guy isn't --- instead, Needa tells M'kae to prepare his shuttle. None of them are in Classic Star Wars, which only refers to Needa as "the captain of the Avenger." Menkooroo (talk) 10:34, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Nemet, M'Kae and "Greyneck"

Here we are:

1. "Warrant Officer M'Kae. A signal officer aboard the Avenger responsible for reporting the Star Deestroyer's activites to the Executor. He also coordinates and tests tractor beam operations, and receives order from the fleet's flagship." --- Also Pictured
2. "Commander Nemet. A logistics officer aboard the Avenger. A member of the Line Branch of the Imperial Navy, Nemet reports vital scanner information to Captain Needa. Like many Imperials, he is extremely competitive." --- Also pictured
3. As far the one I call "Greyneck" is concerned, he appears in picture, and he is indedd referred to as "Communication Officer". His lines are "Captain, Lord Vader demands an update on the pursuit." and "Yes, Captain Needa." The script also says that Needa "and his men" duck as the Falcon sweeps past the window.

Couldn't find anything else anywhere in BtM. Nothing new, it seems. --LelalMekha (talk) 10:40, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks very much for your kind remarks. Andykatib 1:00 pm, 4th December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Character Encyclopedia

I flipped through it page by page and checked Needa's entry twice. I didn't see him. There's an image of Needa's corpse and two officers looking on from behind Vader, but I can't tell who they are. Sorry. Trak Nar ^{Ramble on} 02:27, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Knuckles

Come to think of it, no, it's not established how his eyes came to be blue. OOU, it's an obvious coloring error, but IU we have no explantion. I see your point though about it possibly being genetic. There could have been other reasons as well, like some sort of disease that affected the eyes or something. I still think the fact that his eye color was different should be noted somehow, but I honestly can't think of a neutral wording that wouldn't specify the reason for the change in color. If you have something in mind, feel free to adjust the wording as you see fit. QuiGonJinn 20px^(Talk) 21:33, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Maer

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Unidentified stormtrooper

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Chief gunnery officer

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Thank you

Hey, Hands. We've spoken already, but I just wanted to say a huge thank you once more for your support and kind words on the RFB nomination. I'm glad we've become good friends. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 06:07, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

The Avengers

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