Talk: Goodmind

An article about the Dark Lord who says, "He is ready, Nadd."

Do you think an article about him or her should be created?

Interlang

Interlang links should be added alphabetically, please be more careful with your edits. Thanks--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 08:09, November 2, 2019 (UTC)

General Madine

• The reason I took out General Madine (in addition to other officers with ranks of admiral and general) is because the commanders list is not a participation list. We know Madine commanded a cruiser at Endor but he wasn't on overall theatre commander. Ackbar commands the naval forces, Calrissian commands the starfighter forces and Solo commands the ground forces. Luke was part of the Jedi-Sith duel on the Death Star II while Chirpa commands the Ewok forces. On the Imperial side, Palpatine and Vader commanded the Jedi-Sith duel on the DSII, Jerjerrod commanded the battle station, Piett commanded the Imperial forces (with Sloane taking command as per The Levers of Power after Piett's death) and Hewex commanded the Army forces (since Dyer technically died before the battle actually began and unsure of what Igar was actually up to as yet). The commanders list should be for overall theatre commanders, not for everyone above the rank of lieutenant!. Madine was present yes, but he didn't appear to be commanding anything beyond one ship. Making a participants list would probably be good for each battle to show who was there (it was done in the past) and I'm all for it. But Madine (or Hera or Cracken or Garrick Versio or Jhared Montferrat) don't need to be in the commanders list. I don't really see the need for all squadron leaders to be in the list either (Calrissian is overall starfighter wing leader for the battle afterall) but I wasn't able to win that fight.--Noash Retrac (talk) 05:37, November 12, 2019 (UTC)

3966 BBY

As I pointed out here when I trash compacted the page originally, the use of four-thousand-years is more of a vague estimate rather than something specific, I would avoid re adding it onto the page unless a source specifically dated it, thanks! What was the page you mentioned that use approx dating? Best to check that one out --Lewisr (talk) 19:15, December 23, 2019 (UTC)

• Hmm never seen anything like that done on here outside of that example, I would say its best to remove those --Lewisr (talk) 19:42, December 23, 2019 (UTC)

Mandalore the Great

Because the episode didn't say that Mandalore the Great was the leader of the Mandalorians --Lewisr (talk) 16:34, December 28, 2019 (UTC)

• In Legends yes, does it mean it still in canon though --Lewisr (talk) 21:05, December 28, 2019 (UTC)

Image

Please fill the {{Information}} template and add it to File:Din Djarin's clan.svg--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 00:18, December 30, 2019 (UTC)

SVG Image

I was under the impression as the image its self is not from official source, it came from reddit, that it was not allowed per Wookieepdia's image sourcing rules. But perhaps I'm wrong. LadyVader1005 (talk) 00:48, December 30, 2019 (UTC)

• Per our Images policy, "Logos and other line-art may be redrawn as SVG, though a source image should be uploaded and linked in the {{Information}} template.", this only applies to Logos and similar images.--DarthRuiz30 (talk) 01:10, December 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hey not sure how to communicate properly on this site but about your question on the "Mandalorian" page - In chapter 8 Mando does say it's a creed. This is a new thing, however. All mandalorians shown in canon have been the same species. So one of the groups (it appears to be what was left of Death Watch) started adopting any species. Makes sense, because Darth Maul did lead them at one point. But, to say that Mandalorian is a creed, culture, code, etc pertaining to multiple species since ancient times is incorrect.

SonOfNarShaddaa (talk) 01:56, January 6, 2020 (UTC)

Carbonite

Just because carbonite blocks are stored in a ship doesn't mean it's a part of it. Han Solo was stashed aboard the Slave I, but that doesn't mean the Slave I has a carbon chamber. UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:58, February 18, 2020 (UTC)

• He was frozen within a carbonite block, which has its own freezing system. Again, it doesn't mean it's a part of the ship. UberSoldat93 (talk) 08:02, February 18, 2020 (UTC)
  • Since it isn't outright confirmed by any material that the Crest has a system in place, I suggest we remove it for now. UberSoldat93 (talk) 09:38, February 18, 2020 (UTC)

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Paz Vizsla

Its still unconfirmed at this point, House/Clan Vizsla might not even be a thing anymore. Do we assume Lor San Tekka is part of the San Tekka clan solely on the name? No, the same applies here --Lewisr (talk) 22:26, July 12, 2020 (UTC)

(Rover paul (talk) 13:58, October 10, 2020 (UTC)) noticed on timeline of galactic history it says battle of malachor/canon wondering which war this one is from (Rover paul (talk) 13:58, October 10, 2020 (UTC))

Surik s blade

(Rover paul (talk) 17:50, 10 February 2021 (UTC))are we sure this is referencing Meetra surik I was thinking the blade part is referencing were she put her lightsaber in the ground in the jedi temple from legends (Rover paul (talk) 17:50, 10 February 2021 (UTC))

Ossus canon page

(Hi on the ossus canon page in the galactic republic section 122bby the legends page as been added needs changing to canon thought you should know (Rover paul (talk) 22:04, 5 October 2021 (UTC))

Jaguada

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Legends and canon

(Rover paul (talk) 01:15, 28 March 2022 (UTC)) wonder when some of these will brought back into canon officially instead of a myth from nexus of power can’t understand why aleema keto was left out we have some mentions of rian Ruh witch would make jedaihh order canon and mention of satele Shan witch would make her canon but I heard that was from legends section and from naval armament and equipment ancient sith Wars mention could be the old sith Wars because we now have back the great sith war from light of the Jedi we do have a couple of sith worlds brought back but nothing on dromund Kass wonder if exegol as replaced it and one more they diceded not to use the sith Muriel in rise of skywalker so maybe they want all new Sith Lords and not legends ones but I do hope they keep zannah as banes apprentice and female because at first they said in phantom menace novelisation zannah was male Suppose we have to wait and see with the tv series as well but seems they want to change a lot with them understand they want new things as well and when they do bring some old things back they decide to change it like I said just have to wait and see what they do sorry it’s a bit long this just wonder what your opinion is on some what I mentioned (Rover paul (talk) 01:15, 28 March 2022 (UTC))

Jaguada's star

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Inner Systems

Hey there. I actually looked and you are absolutely correct. I totally missed that reference book that came out in November, so I’m going to go ahead and change as I continue to fix the page. I’ll probably end up going and making a separate subsection in the article discussing reunification, and the influence that the remnant’s former leaders had on the development of the centrist movement.

Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention. I appreciate it.

~Darth Ravigious

Moving Unidentified script to Unidentified Aurebesh script (Jedha)

Just a heads up, I've moved Unidentified script (#39 in your Created Articles) to Unidentified Aurebesh script (Jedha) and I'm planning to get rid of the redirect soon, so you should update your list when you can. AurekFonts (talk) 16:21, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

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What a Jedi Makes

What exaxtly is disputed about What a Jedi Makes like you claimed here? Lewisr (talk) 15:07, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

• I assume it has to do with the whole B'ankora deal? Lewisr (talk) 15:28, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
  • Thanks for clarifying! Lewisr (talk) 16:21, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

B'ankora date note

It needs to include how we know it's 17 BBY, it just says it's in 17 BBY with no explanation Lewisr (talk) 16:21, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Odan-Urr

What is the reference to Odan-Urr in Master & Apprentice? Lewisr (talk) 01:46, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

• Thanks! Lewisr (talk) 02:15, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Kuati

No sorry, that was an error on my part Lewisr (talk) 17:30, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

B'ankor Refuge

I would say so, it looks to be in a city, and we know that Imperial City encompasses the entire planet Lewisr (talk) 14:02, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Re: Imperial Energy Division headquarters

Hi Goodmind, I am honestly not sure, although based on the similarities between the Imperial Energy Division headquarters page and the Project Celestial Power complex page it seems like they might be. I'll have to check the novel to see if this is indeed the case. Wok142 (talk) 00:30, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

• Okay just letting you know that I revisited the novel and I believe I've sorted everything out. Wok142 (talk) 01:52, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Lightsabers and Jedi Equipment

Not really no sorry, you'll have to just search through to find it Lewisr (talk) 17:12, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Old Republic-era

Why would it be? Unless a source used it without one then we shouldn't consider that an option Lewisr (talk) 17:21, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Imperial exodus

One page doesn't justify another existing, it seems all the information is better served on the Empire/First Order/relevant pages in my opinion Lewisr (talk) 19:31, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Chiss Expansionary Fleet and Chiss Defense Fleet

If they are treated as separate entities then sure, it can just be noted in one instance referred to one that way Lewisr (talk) 12:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

• I think it's unnecessary to put the in 27 BBY bit, but the rest sounds fine Lewisr (talk) 18:28, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

RE: Mitth Legends Symbol

File:CEDF symbol.svg could be the Mitth family symbol. In fact, that might even be the authorial intent. However, as far as I'm aware, no source has described the Mitth symbol in Legends, and it would be assumption to label it as such. ThrawnChiss7 ^{Assembly Cupola} 21:00, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Chiss Senate

Hi, could you elaborate on the merge request you have placed on Chiss Senate? UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:31, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

RE: SWTOR Chiss Ascendancy "Welcome to Copero" symbol

Don't worry about tracking down another image, the 2 references you gave were perfect. File:Chiss Ascendancy-SWTOR.svg. Brules Talk

Re:Old redirect

Just the general corvette article (this was 2014 so not sure whether it was still the Legends one or the Canon one already). Imperators II^(Talk) 06:26, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

RE: Stybla family crest

Sorry about the long wait on this one. File:Stybla family crest.svg. Brules Talk 01:00, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Helmet Collection ABY dates

Hi, those ABY dates (e.g. 100 ABY) are just for point of reference, they aren't meant to have pages of their own to begin with. UberSoldat93 (talk) 09:53, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Picket Force Two

Thrawn was only ever considered for command of the unit, and it was never outright stated he was given command of Force Two specifically Lewisr (talk) 15:33, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

• While it's a reasonable assumption to come to, it's still just that because LE never actually specified what the group was. The book only says picket group, so for now it would better to not assume it to be PF2. At the least we can just make a seperate page for Thrawn's picket group and later merge if sources call for it Lewisr (talk) 17:41, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Out of continuity events

There probably is an event like that somewhere, but nothing comes to mind immediately. What prompted to ask? Lewisr (talk) 14:42, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

• Why can't they exist? Lewisr (talk) 14:59, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
  • Vagaari disappear between Outbound Flight and Survivor's Quest, so there couldn't have been any wars before the one started in Survivor's Quest. --Goodmind (talk) 15:18, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
    • Could they not happen before Outbound Flight? Lewisr (talk) 15:20, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
      • Without knowing the material I really can't say for sure, if it's possible they happened at any point they still could Lewisr (talk) 02:31, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Chiss Senate

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Hammerly

What's the evidence for Hammerly being in "Jedi Night"? Lewisr (talk) 18:13, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

• Sounds like it would be an Imo in that case Lewisr (talk) 04:00, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Galactic Senate Building

You're welcome to leave a request on Wookieepedia:Bot requests for such moves! Lewisr (talk) 15:57, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Galaxy Guide

I'd probably also defer to Legends, have no clue about the book at all though Lewisr (talk) 00:32, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Christophsis crystal

Uhh I guess since we treat Ilum crystal the same way, we should probably do the same with this one. We do see kyber original to Christophsis so should be fine Lewisr (talk) 03:09, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Mandela effect

I'm not quite sure what you mean exactly Lewisr (talk) 15:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

• I guess it's possible someone put queen by mistake, but without checking all the sources I can't say for sure. You could at least temporarily remove it Lewisr (talk) 15:34, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

RE: Gamer magazine titles

• If they are not italicized in the magazine, yeah, only quotation marks would be enough. Rendering all titles in bold seems like a pure aesthetic choice to me, so I don't think you need to worry about that. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:14, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Jedi war room

I don't really know besides the film, the canon one linked might not be the same room because we don't have a depiction in those stories, so it's hard to know for sure Lewisr (talk) 18:03, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Attack on Dalna

That one refers to the attack mentioned by Sha'nai Plouth in chapter 13 as taking place a few days before Lewisr (talk) 01:07, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

ISB West End Games

Not sure off the top of my head, but trying looking at the Death Star Technical Companion. They did have a bit about uniforms in there with some illustrations. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 11:13, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Re:Lothal/Dominus sectors

No, I don't think linking those as counterparts is called for. Personally I'd bet it's just a case of Canon ignoring/overriding previous continuity instead of borrowing from it. As for others, so far I'm only aware of two pairs where objects in one continuity are placed in a given sector where in the other continuity their coordinates would fall inside another sector: Dalnan (Canon) and Tunka (Legends) and Metatessu (Canon) and Kastolar/Halla (Legends). Imperators II^(Talk) 14:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

RE: Chiss uniforms

We can't know for sure that novel cover depicts that particular armor mentioned in another the novel. That quote about the ability to absorb energy weapons just says Chiss uniforms, without explicity establishing that as a feature for this allegedly completely separate variant of it. Also, Chiss uniform is not exactly an article just for "fleet uniforms" as you suggest. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 01:32, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

• The novels are naturally connected with each other, but there isn't any clear indication of this unique armor appearing in all these novels. And besides, this is not the only problem with that article, as I have pointed out above. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:15, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
  • Again as I've said above, the cover of the novel X might not be depicting something from novel Y. Even if it did, the other two issues I mentioned above about the article still remain. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:51, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
    • I honestly don't know what else I can say about the issues you are asking without repeating my very first message above: "We can't know for sure that novel cover depicts that particular armor mentioned in another the novel. That quote about the ability to absorb energy weapons just says Chiss uniforms, without explicity establishing that as a feature for this allegedly completely separate variant of it. Also, Chiss uniform is not exactly an article just for "fleet uniforms" as you suggest." Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 14:34, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
      • Sorry, but I don't see how what you are saying addresses the points I raised above. Furthermore, Thrawn being an "unreliable narrator" in an entire novel is simply your own point of view, not an encyclopedic fact. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 15:02, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
        • I'm sorry but I cannot answer your question without repeating my last three messages. If you feel strongly about it, you are welcome to start a discussion thread to receive input from more editors. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 15:47, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Re: Klasse Ephemora

Greetings Goodmind, that map you refer to has not changed since it's inclusion in The Essential Atlas, with the exception of Celwis being incorrectly spelled as "Celvis". Klasse Ephemora has always been the system name per the appendix. We have no confirmation that the star is also named that; Jason Fry would make an assumption that there is (but we can't). Mobus, following the nomenclature established by Dan Wallace & Jason Fry, is in parenthesis to indicate that it is located within the Klasse Ephemora system. The Klasse Ephemora page as is, is wrong. Simply taking a look at the Legends page should be enough to see that. I would separate them but good luck trying to convince the admin around here otherwise. Have a great day! P.S. The page appears to have been brought to status by a banned user so I would not object to you approaching the admin in separating them. Personally, I'm done trying to achieve anything around here. LadyNeret (talk) 02:48, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Vagaari pirate operations

I'm not that overly familiar with the exact details, what exactly would be the issue timeline wise? Lewisr (talk) 15:27, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

• Well that would be stretching by multiple years, perhaps it refers to a different operation? I don't know Lewisr (talk) 16:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Observation gallery

What are the mentions? Would need to see what it says before making a call Lewisr (talk) 15:14, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

• If it's clear they are being treated as the same then feel free Lewisr (talk) 16:07, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Layout Guide

Hi, Goodmind. When re-structuring articles, please follow the formats in the Layout Guide. Feel free to message me if you have any questions about it. Thanks, Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 20:57, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Eighth Family stronghold

Wouldn't something like 'The Mitth family operated an Eighth Family stronghold where trial-borns of the family were required to have a hearing to renounce their family rank.' work? Lewisr (talk) 23:07, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

• I wouldn't say so, it's the only thing we know that happened there Lewisr (talk) 23:13, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
  • I don't think it's really that necessary, but if you really want to Lewisr (talk) 21:21, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
    • I agree with the other EC's that it should be moved to an unidentified title Lewisr (talk) 15:39, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
      • I'm not understanding your point, if it doesn't refer to a specific stronghold then the page is really presented wrong since you're currently treating it like it's talking about a specific thing. All you'd need to do is move the nomination page to match the new page title Lewisr (talk) 17:06, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Re:Canon pictures in Legends BTS

No idea how many articles like that are out there, but you can see the argument in favor of this particular case here. Imperators II^(Talk) 07:07, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Re:Geroon Planetnamia

Hello there. Looks like all that Geroon needs can be seen in action here. Hope that helps, Imperators II^(Talk) 07:19, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

S-thread

Hi, Goodmind. I have noticed you have moved XXt-26 S-thread tracker to a new namespace with a capitalized "Thread." Could you please provide a source for that? All of the sources listed in that article favor "S-thread" instead as far as I can see. Thanks, Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 11:58, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

• The name is written all in caps there, which doesn't provide any information regarding the capitalization of "Thread." Since the source uses "S-thread" in prose instead, I have moved the page back to its orignal name. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
  • I don't see it in the Essential Guide. Could you please provide a page number? Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:39, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
    • The actual prose on p. 130 seems to still favor the decapitalized version, which is also the case in The Official Star Wars Fact File 85. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 13:49, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
      • I don't see any reason to disregard the prose. And we have no reason to assume Fact File 85's decapitalization is a "typo." Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 14:56, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
        • Sorry, but considering a spelling accurate for an article but as a "typo" for another one just doesn't make sense. Also, could you please point out where "xxt-26 s-tread tracker" appears in the Fact File, according to your edit? Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 16:34, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
          • Are you talking about this? Isn't it written all in caps? Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 18:03, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
            • Yes, but your use of the {{ID}} template suggests it was misspelled and was written in all lowercase, which is simply false information. You can check out this to learn more about its proper use, and please refrain from making such assumptions in the future. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 18:43, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
              • I'm not assuming anything. It is written in all caps, just like comic-book speech. But it indeed doesn't provide any information on capitalization. But the way you used the template erroneously suggests otherwise. Please see the template instructions above. There is nothing more I can say about this. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 19:15, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

RE:Eighth Family stronghold

It's fine, it shouldn't need much further Lewisr (talk) 15:26, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

• That should be fixed now, was just a matter of removing the dup entry Lewisr (talk) 16:12, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Place between places

I don't think a page is really necessary, iirc Place between places wasn't actually an official name just something Rey likened it to. And while the book may have a few pages on it, we still don't have confirmation it was the WBW at this point Lewisr (talk) 16:43, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Re:Qui-Gon Jinn Gray Jedi

Hello. As to your first question, if we really don't have any confirmation that Jinn actually was a Gray Jedi, then yeah, I don't listing Jinn's Appearances there is valid. As to the second question, I have next to no expertise on Gray Jedi, so you'll have to ask someone else about that. If it were me writing up that article though, I'd probably first try and see if it can be made to work as a single article instead of two. Hope that helps, Imperators II^(Talk) 16:50, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Unidentified Eighth Family stronghold

Hey! As a heads up to let you know, the objection I left on Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Unidentified Eighth Family stronghold is 10 days old so please could you address it ASAP Lewisr (talk) 23:21, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

• I thought it was being treated as a singular thing as in a structure but fair enough. Thanks for the quick response Lewisr (talk) 03:50, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Re:Weyland facility

Hello! No idea, sorry, you'll have to ask someone who's familiar with both subjects. Imperators II^(Talk) 08:19, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

RE: The Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook

I'm not too familiar with the format of the overall WEG sourcebooks, but I don't think the entire book is part of an in-universe document. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 16:45, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Sith cave

Could you please point me out where the Sith cave appears or is mentioned in Star Wars (2020) 35? Thanks, Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 15:44, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

• Besides that one taking place in a different timeframe, they don't seem to be the same vision, most notably per Luke's lightsaber. Also, that astral plane (or whatever it is) appears multiple times when Vader meditates in Darth Vader (2017), not only when he is in the cave. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 17:04, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Re:Trade route

Hello. It depends on whether there is a need for such fields - are there any examples of trade routes being dissolved or restored? I know there are at least approximate dates for the dissolution of some routes, and reorganization is a tricky one - there is the implication that, for example, the older praediums were "reorganized" into the modern super-hyperroutes, but the sources for the Dustig Trace cast doubt on the assumption that said praediums necessarily ceased to exist. Imperators II^(Talk) 16:32, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

• Sounds like adding a new parameter for dissolution date might be a good idea, then. Right now there's a bit of a lull in bot operator activity, but I'll make a note of this to make a request when it picks up again (so that we aren't left with heaps of pages with missing parameters while we wait). Imperators II^(Talk) 19:52, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Puffer Problems

I have it, so I'll take a look at the story Lewisr (talk) 04:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

• From what I can see, the tendril like things don't really match an Anzati's, so I'd say unless the artist/author said it was one to not treat as one Lewisr (talk) 04:38, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

RE: Ban

Both accounts have been blocked, thank you for reporting. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 05:16, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Narrative vs sourcebooks

I don't believe that really is codified anywhere, the best I can kind of see in policy is here though doesn't really address what you're asking. But taking story material is pretty much the standard, and I'm sure you could find Matt Martin or someone else saying as much Lewisr (talk) 20:59, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Geonosis Jedi victims/survivors

I'm not sure a category is really needed for the survivors and victim of that team, it's just a singular event in comparison to the Jedi Purge yeah Lewisr (talk) 19:53, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Species family unit

I can't give an amount in terms, but if there's notable info on it then it doesn't really matter how much there is Lewisr (talk) 19:45, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Re:Rakatan holocrons

Hello. Offhand I don't recall any unique info that would make an article separate from the general holocron one necessary for Rakatan-created holocrons. Imperators II^(Talk) 19:36, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Darth Revan's Sith Holocron Featured status

I don't know either, but are you sure some weren't added after the review went up? Lewisr (talk) 19:56, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

• The bts needs to cleared up a bit regarding the Path of Destruction info, it also needs to include the two other identifications for the holocron in it Lewisr (talk) 21:22, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  • I refer to the following 'The Holocron was used as a major plot device for the titular character to destroy the Brotherhood of Darkness and establish the Sith Order's Rule of Two.' Lewisr (talk) 06:05, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
    • It should be removed Lewisr (talk) 19:44, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
      • Yes I'm sure, it's not needed to be there Lewisr (talk) 22:08, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
        • The current name seems fine, there doesn't seem to be a need to change it Lewisr (talk) 01:55, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Lightsabers vs first/second/third

I think it's because more often than not the sources group Ahsoka's lightsabers together as a pair, plus she wields them together Lewisr (talk) 16:25, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

• It should probably be split if there are multiple being used independently and not wielded together, I don't really recall Leia's specific case in Legends though Lewisr (talk) 03:38, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Nexus of Power non-canon section

I think it's a pretty clear cut statement Lewisr (talk) 18:08, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

The Architects

Do you have access to the cited sources? Any idea why The Architects/Legends was redirected and speedy deleted? Fate of the Jedi: Apocalypse is quite clear in that the Killiks, who had direct contact with the Son and Daughter when they joined with them, only named the Son and Daughter as the Architects with no mention of the Father or Abeloth. I thought from an in-universe perspective the Killiks first-hand knowledge would take precedence over Insmot Bowen who from an in-universe perspective did not have first-hand knowledge of either the Celestials/Architects... Most other in-universe sources are also just speculation from individuals that the Celestials/Architects are one and the same. From an in-universe perspective, I still don't think we can conclusively say the Architects/Celestials are 100% confirmed as the same and therefore thought it important to have two separate pages. Celestial oubliette (talk) 02:04, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

• Maybe so, (can you provide quotes from the Atlas please?), but in 2013 The Imperial Warlords: Despoilers of an Empire co-authored by Dan Wallace (co-author of 2009's Atlas) treats the Ones and the Celestials as two separate things. Celestial oubliette (talk) 04:07, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
  • "are believed" means this is a supposition and not confirmed. Is that quote attributed to a particular individual within the text? Celestial oubliette (talk) 04:18, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
    • At the very least, given the collective sources and appearances it appears that the Killiks "Architects" (the Son and Daughter) may be different to those "Architects" assumed by other galactic citizens to be the Celestials and deserve their own page. Celestial oubliette (talk) 04:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
      • Or do you think it best that "Architects" are described on both the Ones page and also the Celestials page? Celestial oubliette (talk) 04:26, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
      • No, I'm not convinced at all, thankyou for pointing that fact out regarding thier unreliability of conveying true history. I've re-read that passage in the novel. I'll try flesh out and source appropriate quotes regarding the "Architects" on the relevant pages rather than re-creating the page. But I may create an Architect disambiguation page to help make it clear for people. Thanks for the quotes and discussion. Celestial oubliette (talk) 05:20, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

The Rakata and the Unknown World

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Ordu Aspectu response

You mean on if he is really rur? As I recall, Aphra doubts him, and the author confirmed Eteneral Rur is not actually Rur. As we now allow authorial intention to be cited via tweets and the like, that can be cited Editoronthewiki (talk) 14:51, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

• Yeah, see the archive of the tweet on Rur in bts. should be reflected in article body per new rules Editoronthewiki (talk) 14:54, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Questions

I can't really answer your first right now as I'm without my sources for the moment. And for the second, it's not really accurate, as I believe he was intended to go to take up position as the marshal of Valo's Jedi temple Lewisr (talk) 16:26, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Tython region

Yes it certainly makes it clear it's in a different region, so I don't see why not Lewisr (talk) 21:05, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

RE: Sith symbol

• An "unidentified" redirect page to Sith doesn't really help with navigation in the search box. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 18:23, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
  • It was a redirect page when I deleted it, although now looking at the original version, if all we know about it is that "an unidentified X symbol was a symbol for the X," it probably doesn't warrant its own article and can be cover in the article for X. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 21:06, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Newer sources vs multiple sources

I don't think it has been codified anywhere, what is the case here? Lewisr (talk) 20:03, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

• Usually we would defer to the newer source unless it was clearly in error. What is the latest source on that and what number does it give? Lewisr (talk) 20:20, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
  • Key being 'nearly' not exactly that many. You could just note no number and just say in the bts that sources are not consistent with the number Lewisr (talk) 20:30, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
    • What do they use? Lewisr (talk) 20:16, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
      • And why is that number fanon? Lewisr (talk) 20:46, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
        • I did see that, but I don't see how that's necessarily an issue in canon, it night be weird but what else can we exactly do? Lewisr (talk) 21:01, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
          • I do agree sometimes its bad to give such hard numbers, but I don't see how that's our fault Lewisr (talk) 21:08, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Planet image preference

It probably depends on the instance, do you have one in mind? Lewisr (talk) 19:43, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

• If it depicts only systems then you should probably use the other in the infobox and posibly use the other on the body if space Lewisr (talk) 19:57, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Re:Dark Holocron

Hello. Interesting, I wasn't aware that there's an apparent contradiction concerning this holocron. I don't have a quick solution to offer, I'd have to look more in-depth at all of the relevant sources. Imperators II^(Talk) 11:18, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for writing articles for the Dark Lords in Empire’s End.

I feel like nobody ever talks about that scene, so I’m glad to see you talk about it. Darklordoftech (talk) 20:11, 30 November 2023 (UTC)darklordoftech

Ghost groups

I can't say that I would know really for sure, but quite possibly yes Lewisr (talk) 17:39, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

• Probably better to judge on a case by case basis, hard to determine the notability of all at once Lewisr (talk) 02:32, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Does the group do anything of note? Lewisr (talk) 03:55, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
    • Then it would be better to not make this one, there's not much notability and can be covered on existing pages Lewisr (talk) 04:02, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
      • I'm not familiar with these comics entirely but looking at it they don't really seem to be the same, though the ones in 3 seem to actually do something Lewisr (talk) 06:28, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
        • I don't think that is talking about that group of ghosts, unless I missed something Lewisr (talk) 00:32, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
          • Oh I see, well it does add another source for them. I guess the only way you can really see notability wise is just make and if someone puts up for a TC try put your argument forward for keeping Lewisr (talk) 04:49, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
            • The category says it's for individuals, but I think you could also add the page into there unless there was a better alternative Lewisr (talk) 15:04, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
              • Probably just an error in using the wrong name for where it happened Lewisr (talk) 17:19, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Jedi Quest and TOTJ: Dark Lords of the Sith

I haven’t read Jedi Quest: The Final Showdown, so I can’t answer your question on that. As for TOTJ, I got the impression that the Dark Lord who says “He is ready, Nadd” is the same Dark Lord who marks the foreheads of Exar and Ulic. I’m not sure how to reconcile the Great Temple and the thrones in Dark Lords of the Sith and Empire’s End with the tombs in subsequent media. Darklordoftech (talk) 21:47, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Darklordoftech

Re:Talk archive

Hello. If you're referring to my talk page, yeah, I regularly archive its messages manually. Imperators II^(Talk) 11:42, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Ancient scripts

Are they confirmed to be the same thing? Lewisr (talk) 16:17, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

• Then I don't understand what you mean by your original question Lewisr (talk) 16:29, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
  • If it's different then split them Lewisr (talk) 16:41, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
    • You'd be better to ask Anil, he would be able to tell you Lewisr (talk) 20:59, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

RE: Ancient scripts

The book explicitly states that the blade's inscription is in ur-Kittât with runes of the Sith/runic Sith symbols. Just because we have never seen some of the runes isn't enough to assume that the Visual Dictionary is incorrect and this is actually a new, unidentified alphabet. Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 22:09, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Re:Temple of Exar Kun

Hello! Yes, the "New canon subjects" clause of the Notability policy explicitly starts with "New canon subjects that share a name with a Star Wars Legends counterpart [...]". Imperators II^(Talk) 11:14, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Response

The stuff in that book surronding carbonite is in the Imperial Era stuff by Andressa Divo, though I don't believe the case file things have a confirmed writer. In regards to Era of the Sith, there's probably more yeah. It's a bit weird because the Aphra series establishes that the Ascendant were operating during the Sith's reign, but only talks about them as being destroyed centuries before Lewisr (talk) 16:30, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Nouane engagement

It seems to be the same thing Lewisr (talk) 13:01, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Propaganda

I did not see a mention of them in the propaganda book just the big statue of Sistros. I'm afraid I have no clue what GE says about it, I've never been there, not sure if there's anything online? Lewisr (talk) 00:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Dating

Neither are good really, why is it 5000 BBY if Tarkin is in 14 BBY? Lewisr (talk) 16:35, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

• Then it would be better to not put a hard date on it and just say close to 5000 years Lewisr (talk) 16:38, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
  • It is, but why is it 5000 BBY specifically being used and not one of the other years? Lewisr (talk) 17:08, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
    • Doesn't look like there was any sources or anything on it Lewisr (talk) 17:13, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
      • I would just leave it as what you've got it now, until something a bit more clearer is mentioned Lewisr (talk) 17:19, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
        • If anything I think the enclosure bit Lewisr (talk) 17:27, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Sith Wars

That seems to be a collection of all the wars between the Jedi and Sith. I don't believe which specific war the Chiss were part of is exactly clear Lewisr (talk) 19:28, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oh hmm that's something at least, though still not entirely specific as to which one Lewisr (talk) 19:39, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Shrine

That quote only says the Sith held the shrine first Lewisr (talk) 16:36, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Ashmead's Lock

I think it's clear to say thousands of years is fine. Generally when they say Old Republic during the Imperial Era and beyond they mean the Galactic Republic, they are usually prtty specific if they meant the Republic that predated that one, so the lack of here probably indicates the Republic which came before the Empire Lewisr (talk) 18:39, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Moraband and Onderon

Is something suggesting the are linked then? From what I've seen, a source hasn't yet. Sure, not sure why it would have appeared in canon but not legends also. It would be better to see what the episode cited says, if not then better to remove that idea from the page Lewisr (talk) 01:41, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

• Agreed that it would not be the government itself, better to change it to an organization or something Lewisr (talk) 02:00, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
  • I don't understand what you're asking re Moraband and the Hundred Year Darkness Lewisr (talk) 02:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
    • They could have settled on Moraband after being formed and adopted it as their homeworld, or they could have been founded on Moraband Lewisr (talk) 02:43, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
      • Probably in the aftermath for now Lewisr (talk) 17:01, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Re:Onderon Royal Family

I don't know, no. I'm not seeing in any sources. Have you checked the comics? Imperators II^(Talk) 16:01, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Audio

I do not believe there is something similar for audio Lewisr (talk) 14:29, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Re: Mara Jade green dress

Here ya go. - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 02:15, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Re:Pre-retcon Great Hyperspace War

Hello. If you're referring to the account of Sadow's destruction of the Denarii stars in the opening scene of the first issue, I don't see a reason why the differences can't just be described in the Behind the scenes section of the Great Hyperspace War article. Imperators II^(Talk) 08:44, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Re:Ashas Ree

Hello! To the first question: if you're referring to the "roamed the uncharted systems" line, I don't even consider that as an indirect mention of the Ashas Ree system specifically, and there's no relevance to that respective to the planet that isn't already covered on the article anyway. As to the surveillance droid, yeah, I suppose it is indeed notable enough for an article of its own. Imperators II^(Talk) 08:32, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Ashas Ree

Hey Goodmind! You have several unaddressed objections that are 10 days unaddressed and several that are 9 days unaddressed on your Ashas Ree GAN, if you would get to them when possible please. Thank you! Lewisr (talk) 19:59, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

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