Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting 123

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Agenda

Old

• Unidentified 501st stormtrooper (diff • review)
• Generis/Legends (diff • review)
• Rugosa/Legends (diff • review)
• Rango Tel (diff • review)
• Duron Qel-Droma (diff • review)
• Oron Kira (diff • review)
• Buick (diff • review)
• Yam'rii/Legends (diff • review)
• Han Solo's sky house (diff • review)
• Dusty Duck (diff • review)
• TIE/sh VIP shuttle (diff • review)

New

Expand as needed. See Maintenance bin.

• Mantis Syndicate
  • Unsourced Bts.
  • Redlink.
  • Needs some major subsectioning. MasterFred(talk) 21:54, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
• Darth Maladi
  • Infobox-exclusive information.
  • Refs 2 and 35 needs to be formatted properly with {{WebCite}} and backup links.
    • Both have cite_web, but I can't create backup links because it appears that neither pages exists anymore.VergenceScatter (talk) 21:38, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
      • Never mind, Nano found old backups. VergenceScatter (talk) 21:51, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Article can use multiple paragraph breaks to fit the Oasis skin.
  • "Early life" can use an image (e.g. Devaron).
    • Done.VergenceScatter (talk) 21:38, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
  • "Sith Imperial War," "Seeking Skywalker," and "Personality and traits" can all be subsectioned further.
  • Can use an Equipment section.
  • Unsourced BTS information. UberSoldat93 (talk) 15:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
    • All of the above should be addressed. VergenceScatter (talk) 23:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Include all relevant fields in Cite_web instead of just the URL, title, and backup (e.g. "work," "date," "author").
  • There are unsourced paragraphs now.
  • More quotes can be added now, and they should be below section headers.
  • "Personality and traits" can use better sectioning.
  • No space for Equipment image.
  • BTS:
    • Hosts redundant information about further Appearances.
    • Missing full comic release date. UberSoldat93 (talk) 10:45, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
• Swokes Swokes/Legends
  • Inconsistent information between infobox and body; different height ranges specified.
  • Article can benefit from more subsections and images.
  • Duplicate links.
  • Unsourced BTS information.
  • Appearances need to list individual issues of The Phantom Menace comic and manga instead of just linking the whole series.
  • 1st appearance should go to the novel, which also isn't formatted properly in the section.
  • Abridged The Phantom Menace audiobook should be investigated for a mention and unabridged audiobook should presumably be added to Appearances.
  • Rework referencing to eliminate page and chapter numbers. UberSoldat93 (talk) 13:48, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• CC-1119/Legends
  • Infobox-exclusive information.
  • Double reference for death date is unnecessary.
  • Homeworld and height require a separate note.
  • Can use a lot of subsectioning and paragraph breaks.
  • Temuera Morrison voicing all helmeted clones is not supported by the Databank.
  • Unsourced BTS information.
  • Appearances section needs to list Revenge of the Sith adaptations individually.
  • Check Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader and Revenge of the Sith audiobooks for mentions. UberSoldat93 (talk) 11:24, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Gaeriel Captison
  • None of the BBY/ABY dates appear to be referenced correctly
  • The GrS date needs to be removed from the infobox
  • General underlinking (and in some cases overlinking) throughout
  • The article body's images need to come up with more attractive captions than just "Gaeriel Captison"
  • The article could benefit from more images overall, such as indirect ones describing the Bakura incident and its players
  • File:Captison with Kurtzen.jpg has some background artifacts than can be cleaned up
  • Could probably use an Equipment section
  • Add audiobooks to Appearances
  • Lucasfilm Fan Club Magazine 21 in the Sources should presumably be able to use the relevant citation template and link to a specific article of that magazine issue
  • Ref 12 should use a citation template. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:23, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Hindane Darcc/Legends
  • Suspected missing refs in second and fourth paragraphs of the body.
  • Underlinking.
  • Duplicate links.
  • Grammatical errors.
  • Missing context for several subjects in the body.
  • Improper link formatting: see Wookieepedia:Manual of Style#Formatting.
  • Extraneous detail in BTS.
  • BTS needs to note the origin of the name "Hindane."
  • File links need correct formatting.
  • Legends announcement needs to utilise the proper template.
  • Judging from the images, there's enough to warrant an equipment section.
  • I'm fairly sure ref notes for some of these dates are needed. Speaking of, we can also say when Palpatine died.
  • The article seems confused as to whether Darcc captained the Executrix or not. On the Executrix doesn't specifically state he was, and instead implied that Tarkin was the ship's captain. However, in the next section, it's stated "Darcc was reassigned from captaining the Executrix." So, which is it? Tommy-Macaroni 13:59, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Oh, and Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader's audiobooks need to be checked for possible appearances. Tommy-Macaroni 14:01, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
• Erisi Dlarit
  • Infobox-exclusive information.
  • Dates are not sourced properly.
  • Can use more sectioning and several paragraph breaks to fit the Oasis skin.
  • Some of the image captions can connect to the article better.
  • Could use an Equipment section.
  • Unsourced BTS information.
  • Check and add X-Wing audiobooks to Appearances. UberSoldat93 (talk) 12:08, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
• MK-09
  • The behind the scenes sentence about how a certain thing "contradicts known established movie canon and several other sources" only has a single citation to Return of the Jedi, and no other stuff.
    • Fixed. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 21:26, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Unneeded behind the scenes sentences with some of the sources/appearances. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:32, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Fixed. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 21:26, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
• Onara Kuat
  • Infobox-exclusive information
  • I believe we can see her hair color reasonably enough to at least call it dark, if not brown
  • Skin color can be specified in infobox and article body
  • General underlinking
  • Not all, and possibly none, of the BBY dates are referenced correctly
  • Bio thumbnail image can be enlarged and needs to format its punctuation correctly
  • I find both Bio subsection titles to be lacking. The first is simply unclear as to what it's intending to mean exactly. No one in the world is going to know what "Lenoan to Danu" means until they've read through the subection, when it should be the exact opposite. The subsection title should clearly introduce the reader to what they're about to read and draw them in. And "Trouble" is such a mundane and lame subsection title. Every Star Wars character ever has "trouble." Come up with something better.
  • P/T says "During her tenure, Onara was seen as a prime example of the cutthroat and labyrinth nature of Kuati politics..." Who or what saw her as this? If this can't be qualified according to the source, it should be rewritten.
  • Could use an Equipment section
  • BTS unsourced
  • Remove duplicate link in BTS quote caption. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:34, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
• Ottegru Grey
  • Infobox-exclusive information
  • General underlinking
  • Skin color can be specified in infobox and article body
  • The BBY date in the image caption is not self-sourcing, and the one used in the article body is not referenced correctly
  • Bio thumbnail image can be enlarged and needs to format its punctuation correctly
  • Could use an Equipment section
  • BTS unsourced and can remove instances of Sources list regurgitation
  • Format Tinker, Tailor correctly in citation template. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:34, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
• Sic-Six/Legends
  • General underlinking throughout
  • Infobox-exclusive information
  • I'd say the Biology section could probably be subsectioned for a neater organizational layout
  • There are several instances of multiple end-sentence reference, like "all covered by a hard, chitinous carapace that was generally black.[1][3][2]" or "The head had four pairs of eyes,[1][3][2]". Why is this necessary? If individual parts of a sentence need to be referenced, then they should be done so, not have all the references slapped onto the end of the sentence. Otherwise, unless a claim is particularly disputed or something, multiple references like this is totally unnecessary. And any that do need to be used should be organized in numerial order, such as [1][2][3], not [1][3][2]
  • Remove duplicate link in article-body image caption, and format BTS image caption punctuation correctly
  • BTS is mostly unsourced and should remove any instances of Sources list regurgitation
  • Appearances/Sources needs to indicate whatever the first appearance/first mention, etc. was
  • Refs 10 and 12 need to use Cite web and provide backup links. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 03:34, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

Expand as needed.

• FA essay. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:50, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
• Reduxing articles not already on probation. Tommy-Macaroni 11:22, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Attendance

Positive

1. Tommy-Macaroni 15:59, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
2. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 02:17, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
3. MasterFred(talk) 04:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Negative

1. Saturday evenings continue to be troublesome for me. 1358 ^(Talk) 16:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
2. Hashtag work life. Notes are below. Supreme Emperor (talk) 16:49, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
3. Imperators II^(Talk) 17:00, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Notes

Ecks

• Kill all the old. Probe all the new, save for MK-09. Fred may wield my vote. 1358 ^(Talk) 16:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

SE

• Kill the old, probe the new except doe MK-09. Tommy can have my vote for all other things. Supreme Emperor (talk) 16:49, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Imp

• Per SE. Imperators II^(Talk) 17:00, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Minutes

Attendance

• Master Fredcerique
• Tommy-Macaroni
• Toprawa and Ralltiir

Articles stripped of Featured article status

• Unidentified 501st stormtrooper
• Generis/Legends
• Rugosa/Legends
• Rango Tel
• Duron Qel-Droma
• Oron Kira
• Buick
• Yam'rii/Legends
• Han Solo's sky house
• Dusty Duck
• TIE/sh VIP shuttle

Articles placed on probation

• Mantis Syndicate
• Darth Maladi
• Swokes Swokes/Legends
• CC-1119/Legends
• Gaeriel Captison
• Hindane Darcc/Legends
• Erisi Dlarit
• Onara Kuat
• Ottegru Grey
• Sic-Six/Legends

Articles spared from probation

• Proto One

Notes

• Wookieepedia:Featured articles/Essay will be discontinued and retired as an official Inquisitorius/FA page. It will be moved back to its original place as a subpage of Cull Tremayne. The old essay page link will be removed from all Inq pages and templates.
• Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/instructions modified so that if a page is Reduxed without prior probation, its probation page is created at the same time as its Redux page
• Toprawa and Ralltiir does paperwork and schedules Meeting 124.
• Log