Talk: JMM/archive3

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This archive page is for posts from 2021 and 2022.

Edit summaries

Thank you for contributing to Wookieepedia! When editing, please remember to provide an edit summary more often. This helps your fellow Wookieepedians, particularly those patrolling the Recent changes, understand why you are making certain changes. Thanks! Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:10, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

  • I will remember to do that going forward. Thanks for the heads up. --JMM (talk) 18:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Wam Lufba

Hi JMM, I see you added Star Wars: Return of the Jedi Coloring Book (Luke Skywalker) to the sources for Wam Lufba/Legends, and because of your tag of identifying him as Yuzzum, does that mean the source definitely indicates Yuzzum is his name and not his species? If so, a behind the scenes note should be made too, particularly since he had no name at that time. Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 16:46, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

  • At some point I had PDF scans of that coloring book. I would have to look around to find them again. Based on how I listed things in the article, my guess is the character is shown and just labeled "Yuzzum." But can't be 100% sure. --JMM (talk) 20:36, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
    • I did find a scan of the page the character shows up on. It's just as I said, it's simply a picture of the character labeled "Yuzzum." I've added some info about that to the article. --JMM (talk) 17:35, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
      • I, too, have a question about that coloring book—would you mind checking if it, or any of the other ROTJ coloring books has a possible appearance of Haash'n? JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 22:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
        • Remembering how I went through at least two of the books, I would say Haash'n wasn't in the Lando cover or the Max Rebo cover version. I never found a full version of the Luke cover. --JMM (talk) 01:44, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Thaneespi

Thanks for uploading that image of Thaneespi, athough I have to admit, I'm completely baffled as to how you got it to be of such high quality. :P JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 16:26, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

  • A great place to find bigger package images is Ebay. Some sellers will include really large scans of items on there. After I saw the recently uploaded images I went searching. --JMM (talk) 16:33, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Coincidentally, I have another Mon Calamari question—do you have access to the source you added here? If so, what does it say on Loci Rosen? JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 04:06, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
      • That was simply a caption next to a picture of the character. It then goes on to talk about the species in general and not Rosen. --JMM (talk) 04:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Peter Geddis

Hello. I will be reversing your undoing of my edit to Peter Geddis, as the information therein has been reliably sourced: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Peter_Geddis. To repeat my point made on the talk page, I am willing to obtain a copy of the certificate if necessary. Please feel free to get in touch if you have any further questions. Thank you. StrangeStatue (talk) 16:21, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Actually, that wasn't my edit. Looks like it was OOM_224. --JMM (talk) 16:56, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Backup links

Hi, just letting you know that this should be formatted with {{Disney}} and a backup link. The Jedi business link also needs an archive link. JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 17:43, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

  • I did go right back after I initially created the page and added the backup links. With the Disney template I didn't use it since Shopdisney.com isn't a subdomain of Disney.com, but it's own separate domain. I didn't think that would work. --JMM (talk) 18:02, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Images

Just something to note for the future, please do not include apostrophes in file names. Thanks. JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 04:28, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Yes, I knew that but just didn't think of it with that image until the error message came up. But for some reason the uploads go through anyway. Is there a way to rename them after upload? --JMM (talk) 14:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Topps renaming

Hi JMM! To come up with the Topps naming scheme, DarthRuiz30 and I reviewed foil packaging from cards, the Topps website (current and archives), and card collector sites Beckett.com, Cardboard Connection, and Trading Card Database. We found signification variation throughout, which was frustrating, but the most common naming scheme and the one that Topps has been using (well... mostly) on their site since around 2018 and on foil packages is: [Year] Topps [Set name]. One reason we adopted that system is for the sake of establishing consistency in naming the Topps articles, as things were pretty much a free-for-all before. I hope that helps explain our reasoning, but please let me or Ruiz know if you have other concerns or questions. Immi Thrax RainbowRebellion2 (talk) 13:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

  • That makes sense to me. I created those original old set pages, and I kind of guessed at the naming convention, so I was just curious. Their packaging and ads don't have much in the way of consistent naming, so you have to make it up. But these newer names make sense. --JMM (talk) 13:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Backup links, again

Thank you for contributing to Wookieepedia! Please note that at least one of your recent additions added an external link without including a backup link. Our Sourcing policy mandates the inclusion of a permanent archival link in all external links. Instructions for doing this can be found on the respective citation template pages. Thanks! Further contributions without backup links may lead to being blocked by an administrator. JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 17:32, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

  • JMM, I cannot emphasize enough what JediMasterMacaroni said above. You have been on this site for more than a decade and you are fully aware of our policies, including the Sourcing policy, which mandates archival links in all external links. This has been brought to your attention by multiple users. If you continue to ignore these messages, I see no other option than blocking you from editing. I hope it does not come to that. Thank you. 1358 (Talk) 17:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Sorry, folks, that link actually came from an old article I didn't create. I just copied and pasted that link from there, so the backup never occurred to me. I'll fix that on the original and the new articles I created. --JMM (talk) 17:50, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

/Legends

Hey, man, re: this edit, RoboCade's actually in the process of fixing all the redirects and will be moving that article to the title without /Canon here very soon (it's a multi-part script) so if you see cases where articles are at /Legends and /Canon without anything at the main title, it's that case, so no need to modify Template:Top. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 17:55, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Got it. Didn't realize it was in the process of that. --JMM (talk) 15:02, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Ophideraan flying serpent

Hey JMM, I wanted to ask you a question regarding the Ophideraan flying serpent article—I'm looking at moving the article to just "flying serpent," considering the term "Ophideraan flying serpent" doesn't seem to appear in any sources. Now, I'd be asking you to reach way, way back in your memory here, but you were the one who originally created the article at that name back in 2007. Is there any reason in your mind it should stay at "Ophideraan flying serpent," and it shouldn't be moved? Thanks, IFYLOFD (Talk) 01:14, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Yes, as you guessed I really don't remember back to that. There's a good chance I just chose that name as a more descriptive name than just plain flying serpent, and it wasn't ever named that. JMM (talk) 03:17, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
    • OK, sounds good. Just wanted to check in with you as the original article creator before I do anything. IFYLOFD (Talk) 03:34, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Sourcing

Hey JMM. Just a heads up, it's no longer the practice to leave one-source articles unsourced like you did with Shark Goggle. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 22:13, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

  • OK, thanks, I missed that change. I’ll go back and correct those articles. JMM (talk) 00:20, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Behind the Magic

Hi, when you added Behind the Magic as a source for Winged Gundark, Sheckil/Legends, Obsidian 8 and Obsidian 7, any new information not already documented? If not sure, then you can provide all the information provided for me to go through. Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

  • I am fairly certain the BtM information was just basically copying existing things from the CCG game and any other existing sources. --JMM (talk) 00:15, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
    • Hi, just a delayed response to please check BtM more thoroughly when adding it as a source for new information. Winged Gundark and Obsidian 7 had new information in the text alone, among things with only that source confirming the pilot's gender. If you don't carefully crosscheck the information with the other sources and other materials, then I'd suggest for you to write hidden comments with the precise information so others can sort things out. Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 19:52, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

CT wording change

Hey, just letting you know that I have modified the wording of the Imagecat CT per Immi’s suggestion. You may wish change your vote after reviewing the change. VergenceScatter (talk) 20:58, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Sorting

Heads up, sorting is easier through the MediaWiki magic word {{DEFAULTSORT}}. I've fixed it for you here. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:17, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Categories

Hello. When adding categories to pages, please make sure they are listed in alphabetical order. This means that categories starting with numbers should be placed before categories that contain only words. Thank you. VergenceScatter (talk) 18:31, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

  • OK, I'll remember that one. Though having to do that kind of makes the "add category" button useless. --JMM (talk) 18:59, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Magazine articles

Hey, just letting you know that magazine articles should be placed in quotes ("Title") rather then italics (Title). JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 15:10, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

  • Got it! --JMM (talk) 15:32, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Discord

Hey JMM. I was wondering if you'd maybe be interested in joining our Discord server. It would be great to have you there! JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 16:43, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

  • I'll take a look and see if I can. --JMM (talk) 12:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Categorizing categories

Hello there! Just wanted you to note that when creating image categories, those should also be placed into appropriate categories, like this. Thank you, Imperators II(Talk) 08:41, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Oh, yes! I missed that this time. Consider me reminded! --JMM (talk) 13:43, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
    • Hey there, it's me again. Imperators II(Talk) 09:18, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
      • Agh! I made few other new categories recently and think I did it right on those. Missed one! Consider me re-reminded. --JMM (talk) 13:26, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

WotM

Wiki
"Great shot, kid! That was one in a million!"
Congratulations — you have been elected Wookieepedian of the Month for December 2021 by the Wookieepedia community! Feel free to add the {{User WotM}} userbox to your userpage to acknowledge this honor. The community thanks you for your efforts and looks forward to future contributions from you! — Imperators II(Talk) 18:11, 3 December 2021 (UTC)


Great, thanks! --JMM (talk) 18:16, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

X-Wing expansion release date

According to these page histories, the release dates for these expansions is 1994. I have scoured books, magazines, and archived sites but have been unable to find solid evidence for this date. Do you happen to remember where you got it from? UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 20:32, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

ROTJ book-and-record

Hello JMM. Do you happen to know if Haash'n, Thaneespi/Legends, or Loci Rosen appear in the ROTJ book-and-record? Thanks! JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:50, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

  • They don't appear. There aren't many photos in the book. There are a few videos of the book on Youtube. --JMM (talk) 19:33, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Classic Return of the Jedi

Hi JMM, not sure if you have Classic Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (Random House)? I did see you changed the image of it, although that could easily be you getting the image online, without having the book? If you have that book, can you say tell me if EX-1-2 is pictured? Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 03:42, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

  • The book is actually up on Archive.org. There are very few photos, and none of them are of the TIE fighter. --JMM (talk) 13:48, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
    • Thank you. So right now I see it's limited preview. Because of that, can you also tell me if that book contains a picture of Irol? If so, based on the 1983 year, he would then have his first appearance there. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 13:52, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
      • Hi, I ended up creating an account myself, and checked both the 1983 and 1996 versions, verifying that Irol's not pictured. Thanks! Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:04, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Halcyon

At least two IU sources have said the Halcyon is a Purgill class cruiser, Midnight Horizon and Mission to Disaster Lewisr (talk) 13:46, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

  • Sorry about that! The text on the hotel's website sounded like it was written as the Purgill being a separate older ship. And other spots use the MPO-1400 Star Cruiser as its name. Kind of looks like a conflict to me, but having the MPO be also a Purgill does seem like the best solution. Unless some other source clarifies it. --JMM (talk) 14:07, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
    • No worries! It appears that Midnight Horizon also addresses that you raise, it calls them the MPO-1400 Purgill-class star cruiser and that the Halcyon is one of them Lewisr (talk) 14:12, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
      • That's interesting, so maybe that's solved. Though I still say, the website's wording makes it sound like they're talking about a different ship: "Chandrila Star Line's legendary Purgill-class starcruisers were some of the first commercial vessels to offer hyperdrive travel, and their spirit of adventure continues to this day." --JMM (talk) 16:03, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
        • Hmm I think we're gonna have to go with what IU sources here, unless some kind of in-universe source gives reason for why it isn't one, then we should treat it as one Lewisr (talk) 17:11, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
          • I agree. Could just be a matter of interpreting it. Plus, that website is a mix of in-universe and real-world, anyway. --JMM (talk) 17:20, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Mighty Chronicles

Hi JMM, do you perhaps have either Star Wars (Mighty Chronicles) or Return of the Jedi (Mighty Chronicles)? Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:08, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

  • No I looked for those online at one point, but haven't seen them. --JMM (talk) 14:43, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
    • Darn, seems both are hard to come by. Thanks again. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:46, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Source order

Hi JMM, I saw you added 1997 Topps Star Wars Special Edition to R3-T2/Legends before Star Wars: Chronicles. Given the fact that the 1st is only listed as 1997 for release date, we treat that as December 31, 1997, so it thus goes after Chronicles and anything else in 1997 with a specific date. Out of curiosity, can you confirm that card game has an earlier than February 1, 1997 release date? Even so, per the layout guide, it's still treated as the last day of 1997, if nothing officially states the date in writing. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 17:22, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

  • Actually, I overlooked that Chronicles was published so early in 1997. For some reason I thought that date was as vague as the cards. May have been confusing it with another reference book. --JMM (talk) 18:06, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
    • ...and something very funny is I found something showing the card set shipped in February 1997! Granted, that would mean it should be listed after the 1st, but funny it's so close! --JMM (talk) 18:21, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
      • Great find. If only all the publications on this site had the specific dates both pinned down and reflected in the articles. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:00, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Star Wars Official Poster Monthly 9

Hi JMM, I see you added Star Wars Official Poster Monthly 9 as a source for WED-15 Septoid Treadwell/Legends. Would that also picture WED15-I7? Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 13:41, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

  • No, it's just included in a photo of the sandcrawler scene. The old Time Tales Arcana page still live on TheForce.net has scans of all the Poster Monthly issues. --JMM (talk) 15:09, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
    • Would be nice if I can reliably find the first usage of WED15-I7 as I could write up WSB-15 sabotage droid, which it appears to be retconned as. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 17:44, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
      • Hi, so if you by chance have access to Star Wars: Chronicles, is WED15-17 pictured there? Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:00, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
        • I do have the Chronicles book. I will check it when I have the chance. --JMM (talk) 16:11, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
          • That droid doesn't seem to be in there. There's always the good chance that image from the CCG is just another droid added to a Death Star background. --JMM (talk) 03:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Re:Moving article to /Legends

Article has been moved. Thanks for the heads up! MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 22:10, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

BanthaCite

Hi JMM! {{BanthaCite}} is finally online! Sorry it took me so long to make it, I was on wookieevacation earlier this year, and since I'm back my focus was on web-related content. Anyway, you'll notice it's quite a simple template, only two parameters "issue=" and "article=" (this one is optional, so you can cite the whole newsletter with the template if you wish). You'll notice that contrary to my concept in Forum:SH:Bantha Tracks template and archive links, I ditched two parameters, "formatted=": as we don't need it since there is no article for individual articles from the newsletter, and "archivedate=": as it was opposed by Asithol. The most difficult part was to find a template icon, tried various images, but could not really find something that I was really happy with, so I went with my first attempt. I you have any questions or requests regarding this template, don't hesitate to leave a message on my talk page. NanoLuukeCloning facility 14:23, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Great, I kind of forgot about it. Or gave up after the thread went away. I'll make some use of the template. --JMM (talk) 15:10, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

5D6-RA-7

Hi JMM, whenever you get the chance, can I have information on 5D6-RA-7 from Star Wars: Behind the Magic? For one, I would like to know whatever information is given about him, while I would also like to know if that is the first source to link him to the ANH droid. Star Wars: The Action Figure Archive already does, but I'm wondering if Behind the Magic identified him as such first. Thanks! Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 13:17, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  • I can check at some point. Remember the software came after the CCG card, and included a lot of info first seen in that card set. --JMM (talk) 14:15, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
    • Behind the Magic gives the same background information the CCG card does, but it directly points the droid out in the Death Star corridor. --JMM (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
      • Thanks. Interesting it appears the CCG card image is an edited image of 3B6-RA-7, but what can one do? Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:57, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Kalit in Behind the Magic?

Hi JMM, another question about if Kalit is included in any manner in Star Wars: Behind the Magic. Could be only picturing him (note that "Who's Who in Jabba's Palace" says he's the Jawa who peeks through the bars as Oola's eaten by the Rancor, but there's more than one Jawa seen doing that, so I guess it's hinged on if all of them are pictured, though that's redundant if he's pictured looking down at Luke) to including his name, since the CCG card did already name him before the later CD-ROM's release. Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 23:53, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

  • I couldn't find anything with Kalit, not even an obvious photo. --JMM (talk) 20:47, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

A couple more requests

Hi JMM, a couple of more BtM requests. Would that source picture Allen Neff? He's definitely mentioned in the script scene, though just wondering if pictured too. No name because name wasn't thought of then. Also it's a Wittin source, so does it specifically say if Wittin's the Jawa on the image, and what information does it give? Finally, does it include Aved Luun, and if so, does it identify her in the film, or give any information? Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 18:50, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

  • I didn't see anything with Neff or Luun. Wittin is identified as a Jawa seen near Beedo when everyone's startled by Boushh and Chewbacca. It doesn't include any of the images from the article here. --JMM (talk) 01:58, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

A couple questions

Hi JMM, a couple of questions. For one, I would like to know if Kin Kian (Human) is pictured in Star Wars: Behind the Magic. Name won't be there, but the CCG named him and established him as Salm's gunner, so the Y-wing appearing = Kian at the very least is a (Starfighter only), with the question being if just that, or also pictured on Home One. Also as you're a long time Star Wars fan, and have contributed to the Databank, would you remember if this image, of a prop separately used to represent a TIE bomber (From Star Wars to Indiana Jones: The Best of the Lucasfilm Archives is one example), is used to represent a TIE shuttle in the Databank? I was informed of such, and the sole image not archived is the behind the scenes image for TIE shuttle. Another possibility is, outside of entries, somewhere else in the Databank uses that image to represent a shuttle and not a bomber? Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:06, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

  • I'm not really sure about that TIE image. But I CAN say that Kin Kian is seen in a screenshot from Return of the Jedi behind Wedge in Behind the Magic. I will add that to the sources of his article. --JMM (talk) 23:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
    • Thanks. If only Kwenn were still active, as he used the exact bomber image I talked about to represent a shuttle on his fan site. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 23:35, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Purgill-class starcruiser

Hi, I have a question regarding Purgill-class starcruiser. You mentioned that "They were some of the first commercial vessels to offer hyperdrive travel." However, I can't find that information in the given reference. Where is that piece of information from? CanePlayz (talk) 10:27, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

  • The hotel's official site page mentions it. If you follow that link in the article, scroll down to the "About Chandrila Star Line" section and it says "Chandrila Star Line’s legendary Purgill-class starcruisers were some of the first commercial vessels to offer hyperdrive travel..." --JMM (talk) 13:12, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
    • Hm, that's really weird, me and other people can't see it on the page anywhere. It's this page, right? CanePlayz (talk) 16:18, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
      • This page is the one I see it on. I see yours is a ".eu", so maybe you get redirected depending on where you are? --JMM (talk) 16:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
        • Oh, good catch, thanks. I'll check it out with a VPN or something. CanePlayz (talk) 10:14, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Daine Jir

Hi JMM, Daine Jir is on probation and, given that there were inaccurate citations to sources that didn't really say the information cited, the final unchecked item is Behind the Magic, where the article does have some information cited. If you can provide me the direct text from that, would be appreciated. Thanks! Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Here's what it says about him: "A bold and outspoken Imperial leader. He has been known to train his troops through constant crisis simulations. Unlike most Imperial officers, he does not fear Darth Vader and will openly question the Dark Lord. His fate remains unknown." --JMM (talk) 15:24, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

A couple more inquiries

Hi JMM, is Dressellian Projectile Rifle included in any manner in Behind the Magic? Could be only pictured, could have information? As for Mod Terrik, does that source by chance confirm he's seen anywhere besides the one scene with him and Felth's dialog, and regardless of answer, any information, or is the name not even mentioned? Thanks again! Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 15:03, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

  • I couldn't find even a photo of the rifle. Terrik and Felth's character are identified in the search for the droids scene, but they each just get a brief description. --JMM (talk) 17:54, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Darn, shame that source doesn't make Terrik the one forward-falling trooper seen before the Falcon escapes. Belated Jir reply, but how interesting that's yet another IU unknown fate. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 18:14, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Dorovio Bold

Hi JMM, it's very interesting you shared that Ryder Windham named Dorovio Bold after his daughter, and that Nella Bold was an intended relative. If possible, may you publicly upload that onto here, or otherwise make public (or a link if it's already public?) so it can be cited? Thanks! Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 00:48, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

  • I will check around for an actual site mentioning that fact.--JMM (talk) 14:10, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Return of the Jedi Monster Activity Book date

Hi JMM, I saw that you listed Return of the Jedi Monster Activity Book as published in May 1983 when you created the page. Is there a website or another book or something that says that it was specifically published that month? Thank! Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 00:51, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

  • I believe I found that date on one or two websites, but nothing close to official. I think I intended to search some more and get back to the article, but wasn't able to at the time. --JMM (talk) 14:22, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
    • Thanks for that. Stinks that a good amount of those early sources have a precise date very difficult to track down. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 00:47, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
      • Someone somewhere has to have an old sales catalog or something from back then that lists all those dates. --JMM (talk) 12:33, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

2014 Fact Files

Hi JMM, from seeing you adding the 2014 Fact Files to sources, just curious, would you have the 81st through 120th editions? Those are the only ones I couldn't find. Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 18:36, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

  • I also couldn't find any beyond 80. --JMM (talk) 13:22, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Allen Neff source

Hi JMM, because you added The Empire Strikes Back Series 1 Card: Enter Lando Calrissian (backup link) as a source picturing Allen Neff, I'm guessing it's listing him as the one who's obscured behind Lobot on the card? If so, can we definitely tell that's not Helder Spinoza/Legends or Bialar Selis? Thanks! Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 15:01, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

  • Actually I think that's actually Fantes Mer'darro on that card. I confused the two once before, too. I will fix that. --JMM (talk) 17:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
    • Oh okay, thanks for clarifying. Doesn't help when their location changes in different shots. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 17:46, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Torent in Star Wars Coloring book

Hi JMM, as you added that Derek Torent is in the R2-D2 edition Star Wars Coloring Book, does that book have a direct sketch of the production image of him? Thanks. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:10, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

  • I can't find the site I saw scans from the coloring book now, but I pretty certain the image was based on that production photo. It's really the only way I would've included him in the Appearances. --JMM (talk) 20:03, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Status articles thought?

Hi JMM, I saw the expansion you did to Unidentified patrol craft. Is it at all possible you might one day nominate it? Always nice in my opinion to see new nominations from users, and you've been on this site for a good amount of time. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:57, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

  • I've never nominated any articles, just because it's not something I paid much attention to. But that article is about as comprehensive as you can get on such a limited subject. --JMM (talk) 14:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Spiral in Behind the Magic

Hi JMM, since Star Wars: Behind the Magic is a listed source for Spiral, just curious, is that the first source to picture the ship? My guess is that it doesn't have any picture, and the ship was first pictured by the later CCG card, but still checking. Thanks! Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 18:55, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

  • Behind the Magic just mentions the ship in its brief description of Del Goren, so unless there's some other source out there, that second CCG card is probably it's first "appearance." --JMM (talk) 20:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
    • Thanks. There was a behind the scenes note with a reference to that source related to its picture. Most certainly then it's only referencing the fact that it's an edited version of a Tantive IV image also displayed in Behind the Magic then. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 21:06, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

LIN-V8M

Hi JMM, Star Wars: Behind the Magic isn't listed as a source for LIN-V8M, but I would still wonder if the droid is included, either name with text, perhaps just repeating what's in the CCG or Star Wars Encyclopedia, or maybe pictured only? Thanks! Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 01:31, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

  • I couldn't see any reference to the droid, even a picture. --JMM (talk) 22:25, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
    • Alright, thanks. I do wonder if the very image is just an edited version of an image of LIN-V8K, either a film still with an edited background, or a production image of V8K with an edited background. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 22:30, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

C-3PO's update

Hey mate,

Since you've made a major updates to C-3PO's and the article is now too large to be a CAN, I wanted to check if you wanted to GAN it. I feel like you've contributed more to the article that I had, but it'll lose CAN status and wanted to head that process off by just getting it GAN'd.

I can't remember why I originally didn't include that stuff in the article but surprised it wasn't brought up in the nomination process ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Alternatively we could co-nominate it? LMK :) Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 09:00, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

  • Sorry I never got around to answering. I see now that the article is on CA probation so maybe changes can be made. --JMM (talk) 01:43, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
    • I'll be looking to fix this back up and renominate it for GA, just wanted to check you were ok with that first? :) Manoof (he/him/his) RainbowRebellion2 10:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

M-HYD 684 in Behind the Magic?

Hi JMM, is M-HYD 6804 in Star Wars: Behind the Magic? If so, similar to Star Wars Encyclopedia, would it possibly identify M-HYD seemingly as the droid's name instead of the class of droid? My guess is that it isn't mentioned by name, nor pictured, as I've seen you adding that source to other droids' lists, and also I've seen you adding at least one other appearance to M-HYD 6804, and been adding sources and appearances to many of those droids' pages. Still checking though. Thanks! Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 03:17, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

  • The droid doesn't seem to be anywhere in BTM. --JMM (talk) 13:51, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Ledick Firest sources removed

Hi, with the sources you removed for Ledick Firest, is there a reason? For the first, he's pictured in a packet that comes with the figure, while the second and third include him on the packaging. The third one has images of the package in the link, and while the link for the second is to rebelscum.com and that doesn't include the image, the packaging for the second is seen here. Just wanted to discuss this, as I wasn't sure if there's something else related to removing the sources. Thanks! Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 17:07, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

  • I guess I should've explained that. In most other cases the articles haven't counted pictures of the action figures to be appearances/sources of the character. At least I haven't noticed it in many places. Listing appearances on a package that include real life photos or illustrations makes sense, but I'm not sure the figure images should be included. --JMM (talk) 19:28, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
    • Links to articles in question? I would like to see if it's at all possible it's not just because it was overlooked? I would imagine that even currently, a good amount of articles, including status articles, are missing sources or appearances. A good example is how many Topps cards were only added years later, with yourself adding a lot of them to sources, which was also great work on your part, along with the other random sources or appearances you add to articles. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:14, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
      • I don't think an actual policy exists about it. I think I am just figuring that could be a slippery slope. To include every toy package that shows a Luke Skywalker action figure in Sources would I think start making things too messy. In that case, you'd have to list half the vehicles and playsets from Kenner alone. And every action figure card back then pictured ALL the current figures. I feel including the figures in Sources is best to just show "This character had an action figure." --JMM (talk) 14:26, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
        • Huh, I was aware of the all current figures pictured on the back thing, and precedent seems to not include those, with myself back when I was actively checking making the decision to not include those. Comparable are the StarWars.com articles where the biographies of the authors who worked on other Star Wars things were removed from sources if that was the only mention, such as how Wam Lufba had sources removed where the only thing was talking about how Tim Veekhoven wrote about him in What's the Story? The action figures that are included pictured in unique scenarios on packaging or other materials I had different thoughts about though, that they should be included, albeit not as canon scenarios. I would like to welcome the thoughts of other users too. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 15:14, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
          • I just feel treating the package images as some kind of storyline would lead to so much material added to the articles it would be too much. But it wouldn't hurt to ask others' opinions. Though some people believe almost any toy information should be only on the merchandise wiki and has no place here at all. I don't go to that extreme, I just like documenting who or what has a toy version of them. --JMM (talk) 18:11, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Re: Theme park/attraction categories

I had actually completely forgotten about that, so thank you for the reminder! Let me check it out today and see what I can come up with. MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 00:26, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Formatting

Hey, formatting heads up for short works published within larger works - ie not just short stories. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

  • OK, thanks. I had seen Entrenched listed somewhere with just a simple title. I'll remember to do that going forward. --JMM (talk) 19:50, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Re: possible firsts

Hey there! I'll paraphrase Imperators II on this--that use is largely depreciated, as something either appears or does not appear/is mentioned or is not mentioned. If there's only a possibility, that should instead be noted in the Behind the scenes section (with references!) rather than the appearances section. Let me know if you have any further questions! Immi Thrax RainbowRebellion2 (she/her) 00:55, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Congrats on 40k edits!

The Jensaarai Mentor Award is given to JMM by JediMasterMacaroni for providing Wookieepedia with greater knowledge in overlooked or obscure areas.

The Jensaarai Mentor Award is given to JMM by JediMasterMacaroni for providing Wookieepedia with greater knowledge in overlooked or obscure areas.

The Wook is better thanks to your contributions - here's to the next 40,000! :P JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 19:15, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

  • Thanks very much! --JMM (talk) 20:05, 19 December 2022 (UTC)