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Contents

  • 1 Quote of the Day
  • 2 Wookieepedia:Published Works Improvement Project|Published Works Improvement Project
  • 3 FA: Earth
  • 4 i'm thinking of joining wookiepedia
  • 5 New main page
  • 6 Hi-lo
  • 7 Star Wars "Quote of the Day"
  • 8 Better and Better
  • 9 Languages
  • 10 Pre-Republic Era
  • 11 Changing the search picture.
  • 12 May fourth
  • 13 Encyclopodia
  • 14 Upper righthand image
  • 15 Le Star Wars Wiki en Francais
  • 16 Language links
  • 17 Major spoiler link
  • 18 "View Source"
  • 19 Interfaces
  • 20 Mods
  • 21 Dates
  • 22 Color
  • 23 Suggestion, yes or no.
  • 24 New Canon level
  • 25 Background of the Wiki
  • 26 Unlisted categories
  • 27 Minor main page tweak
  • 28 Search plugin autodiscovery
  • 29 Enough is enough...
  • 30 expanded
  • 31 Who placed the Quote of the day at the bottom?
  • 32 Wookieepedian of the month
  • 33 Is it encouraged for users to update the Did You Knows?
  • 34 Dissappearing Links?
  • 35 Galleries
  • 36 Huh?
  • 37 Better Featured Article Picture?
  • 38 what the?
  • 39 Wookiepedia has changed man, it should go back into it orginal glory
  • 40 This may be a dumb question but
  • 41 Quote of the day source
  • 42 User Profile Stuff
  • 43 How did you do this?
  • 44 Contributors
  • 45 Quote Move
  • 46 Current FA
  • 47 Images
  • 48 Featured Picture
  • 49 How do you make the pages blue?
  • 50 Colosseam

Quote of the Day

I proposed this in the Senate Hall and got some support there, however considering it means editing the main page I probably need an admin's permission. I was thinking of placing a small Star Wars quote at the top of the page and it being changed maybe a couple times a week. It could be from just the movies, or the entire Star Wars Universe. I request that a admin please answer this and say if its ok or not. IG-13 01:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Wookieepedia:Published Works Improvement Project|Published Works Improvement Project

I know this may be presumptious for a project that's just been started, but I think we would be able to work much more quickly and efficiently if we could have a box at the very bottom of the right column by extending the list of did you knows. All we would need in the box would be one line of text: "If you own (current project), or know it comprehensively, please go to Wookieepedia:Published_Works_Improvement_Project|Published Works Improvement Project to try and help out." If anyone can lend us a hand on this, thank you so much.--Erl 00:44, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

FA: Earth

OK, someone PLEASE tell me that this is an April Fool's joke. TIEPilot051999 05:20, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

  • What? It's List of references to Earth in Star Wars|canon. 8) —Silly Dan (talk) 05:23, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
  • It also doesn't answer my question. TIEPilot051999 05:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Think logically, why was an article written, like, five minutes before that, never appearing on WP:FA, suddenly placed on the main page on Saturday, not Sunday as usual? Of course it can be a direct invasion of fanon lovers, but it can also be something else... Wikipedia:WP:AGF :) - Sikon [Talk] 07:58, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Is there a version of the article saved anywhere? I thought it was classic... Duke Starhopper 21:28, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Wookieepedia:Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense/Earth —Silly Dan (talk) 21:50, 3 April 2006 (UTC).

Duke, I saw you on the LotR wikia...

i'm thinking of joining wookiepedia

But i need some good reasons. I'm already a member of Wikipedia as Dumoren and Homestar runner wiki as Nikolce Kocovski.

Give me some good reasons.

144.132.15.155 12:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

--A good reason would be that you want to contribute to it... HavetStorm 18:27, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

  • It involves Star Wars! That's reason enough, dammit! :P Adamwankenobi 18:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I suggest reading about the article about our site. WhiteBoy 00:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Can someone tell me a good username, maybe a star wars like name fior Nikolce Kocovski?

144.132.15.155 02:09, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I've finally Joined wookiepedia, my user name is Master Nikolce.

Master Nikolce 07:18, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

New main page

Does anyone with knowledge of formatting know if there a way to remove the extra space at the top of the new main page? I tried it myself but... Adamwankenobi 04:41, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

  • I believe the code on the third line "margin-top:+.7em;" should be changed to "margin-top:0em;", if not deleted altogether. --Xwing328 17:24, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
    • I reduced it by putting -1em. It can be changed even more, but I don't know if it will look different in other browsers or anything. Hope that helped. --Xwing328 17:42, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Cool. Looks good. See if you can remove the rest, and if there are complaints for a certain browser, then it can always be reverted. :) Adamwankenobi 18:00, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
        • There. I figured it out myself. I'm horrible at coding. Adamwankenobi 18:15, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
        • Ah no, its terrible. Is there anyway an individual user can change it back on their preferences? Jasca Ducato 18:21, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
          • What does the page look like on your browser? Adamwankenobi 18:30, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
            • Looks great! I just got back, sorry I couldn't respond sooner. I'll take a look at the code and see if there's anything else I notice. --19:50, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
              • It all squashed up, the writing is like twice the size it should be. Jasca Ducato 19:52, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
                • What browser are you using? Also, is the text for the entire page bigger, or just the top Welcome section? --Xwing328 20:15, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Hmm, whatever changes you guys made also made the "New messages" box all messed up. If you want, I can send you a test message so you can see for yourself :P RMF 03:15, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Send me a test message and I'll take a look. Adamwankenobi 03:16, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Hmm. The message box looks fine to me. BTW, I'm using IE on an XP with a resolution of 1064 x 768. Adamwankenobi 03:24, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Check the message again RMF, I moved the page to 2em instead of 2.5em, in case it was covering it up. If you could send me a test message also, I'd appreciate it. (I'm using IE on XP also) --03:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
        • OK, so even at 2.0em, the page covers up part of the message box. I think we are just going to have to move it down a bit more until it doesn't cover it up. --Xwing328 03:36, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
          • It's not really a big deal, I don't think anybody else uses Safari :) RMF 03:38, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
            • Well it cut off about half of the message box for me. Does anybody know what template that message thing uses? --Xwing328 03:39, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
              • I use Safari! Mac POWER, b*tches!--The Erl of the Talk talk What I do 03:42, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
                • Good to know I'm not alone then :P Xwing: I believe it's hard-coded into MediaWiki, although the text can be changed MediaWiki:Newmessageslink|here (only admins can edit files in the MediaWiki: namespace, however) RMF 04:04, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
                  • Let's see if we can fix this so that everyone can see the page normally with the white space removed. Adamwankenobi 04:13, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
                    • What if the box that the "Welcome to..." thing is in was removed, just leaving the text? I don't think the white at the top would look to weird then. --Xwing328 04:26, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I don't think we should use negative margin values. It screws sitenotices as well. Changed - Sikon [Talk] 09:56, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I think the navigation box should be merged with the "Welcome to Wookieepedia" box. The "Welcome to Wookieepedia" text can be moved to the left of the top box, while the naigation links can be placed at the right of the box. Wikipedia has their main page situated thisway. I think it looks better, as it makes the "featured article" section one of the first things you see by moving it up. AdamwankenobiTalk to me! My home. 06:31, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

  • The navigation box allows to better balance the columns by moving it to the left or right depending on the size of FA/DYK sections. - Sikon [Talk] 06:46, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
    • The top margin is now set at -1.6em. How is it working for everyone? AdamwankenobiTalk to me! My home. 20:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi-lo

I just came here to say Hi! =[GE]=ApocalypX 09:40, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

That and you need a "new messages" thing. A link to your talk page and a box? =[GE]=ApocalypX 09:46, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Like:
You have User talk:YOURUSERNAME|new messages.
=[GE]=ApocalypX 09:52, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

And do I have permission to use

Main Page/Archive5

[Source]
on this? =[GE]=ApocalypX 09:57, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Of course you have, it's GFDL, you needn't even ask. And please remove the <font> tag from your signature. See Forum:Signature Link. - Sikon [Talk] 10:00, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

GFDL? =[GE]=ApocalypX 10:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

And, I can't understand that. =[GE]=ApocalypX 10:03, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Star Wars "Quote of the Day"

I think we should out on the front page, a "Quote of the day" or "Quote of the week". Someone could update this every once in a while.Please someone back me up on this.

  • It's not a bad idea -- we already have the quote from Abel G. Peña, but should we replace it or supplement it? —Silly Dan (talk) 01:37, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
  • That could be okay I guess - "Quote of the Week". Though I think I'd prefer to have a "Picture of the Week" instead, similar to Wikipedia's "Today's featured picture". --Azizlight 01:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree that a weekly change of the featured quote/picture might me more convenient than a daily change, since several days will be needed for voting if it is to be decided democratically as other features in this site. I'd rather have featured quotes than featured pictures, as the Featured Picture of the Day at Wikipedia pretty much serves the function of second featured article. However, most quotes featured at the heading of articles are only credited to the characters who said them, not the authors who wrote them, so for several of them, it'll be impossible to determine the exact wording or the source. --Ace_ETP 17:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I think this idea is a very good one. –http://uncyclopedia.org/images/1/15/Darth_Cow-Small.PNG --DarthCow--Talk|Email
  • Now the Lord of the Rings Wiki has a "Picture of the Week" I think we could do this with a quote beneath it or something if we are in agreement should I go ahead with this?
  • We should have both a "Picture of the Week" and a "Quote of the Week." Palpy 13:38, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Agreed. —Unsigned comment by Bredd13 (talk • contribs)
  • When is this going to take affect again? -Bravedude
  • Sounds like a good idea

Better and Better

Just to say this wiki is getting better and better! It has articles of great quality, nad it only gets better! The best Star Wars resource! Thanks to everybody who contributes to this great wiki!=) --Andrettin 19:14, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Languages

Does anyone know if they have a page on their robots and languages (andalphabets)

Pre-Republic Era

G'day. I was just wondering, is there any particular reason why (with all the new improvements recently done to the main page, including the addition of links to the articles covering all the eras of the GFFA) there's no link to the Pre-Republic Era article? Is it because it has no real starting point? The Legacy Era has no real ending point, and it's included... Is it because there's no symbol which represents the whole era? The Rakata Infinite Empire symbol would work, even if it doesn't cover the entire Pre-Republic era. I'm just saying, it's a shame the Main Page doesn't link to an article as good as the Pre-Republic Era one, specially when it's such a long and important era, including the genesis of the GFFA itself. The fact that no EU stories have been set in it is not really an issue. --Ace_ETP 17:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Was bold and added it. Symbol lack really is an issue, though. The Rakata symbol doesn't really work---The Erl of the Main Page/Archive5 talk What I do 03:09, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Apparently there's no such thing as the Pre-Republic publishing era. - Sikon [Talk] 07:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
      • But not acknowledging a period of Galactic History in the Main Page seems odd. And why wouldn't video games and novels taking place in other times but with information about the Pre-Republic era (such as "Knights of the Old Republic" or "Lando Calrissian and the Sharu") qualify as the type of work we could list in as integrating it as a story-external publishing era? (It already undeniably is a story-internal historical era). Aren't the flashbacks to Anakin Skywalker's youth in "Tatooine Ghost" sources for Rise of the Empire era information, despite the book taking place mostly in the New Republic era? By the way, I still think we should use the Infinite Empire symbol rather than a question mark. --Ace_ETP 23:40, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
        • I tried that: the different sizing meant that it was either A) distorted B) huge or C) threw off symmetry--The Erl of the Main Page/Archive5 talk What I do 00:44, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Changing the search picture.

I think it would be a cool idea to change the search from Chewbacca to a Bounty Hunter (Boba Fett maybe?). For obvious reasons. (Bounty Hunters hunt. Search engines hunt too)

  • Good idea--Darth Mantus 12:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
    • I think Chewbacca is fine given that we're Wookieepedia, but I don't really care. The search image is free for upload at File:Search logo.png. - Sikon [Talk] 12:52, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
      • I prefer the current search image. Like Sikon said, it works well since we're Wookieepedia. AdamwankenobiTalk to me! My home. 14:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm going to make a bold suggestion, so please don't kill me.

(brace yourselves)

How about moving Chewie to the main logo? It is Wookieepedia, after all, not "Deathstarpedia." Maybe have Chewie in front of the Death Star? But it's probably better off as it is right now, what do I know? I'm sure someone took a long time to think through what the logos should be. —Unsigned comment by Bredd13 (talk • contribs)

  • We already had a vote on this, and the Death Star logo won. It has symbolism as well—like the Death Star II, Wookieepedia is still under construction, yet fully operational. Anyway, if you want to suggest a new logo, feel free to make one, and we'll vote again. --Imp 02:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Like I said, probably better off as it is. (This actually makes a whole lot of sense, actually...very symbolic, very deep. Or maybe it's just a cool looking picture.) —Unsigned comment by Bredd13 (talk • contribs)

Hey, Mantis I saw you on the LotR wiki. Any who, I like the current logobut thiink the search image should be Chewwie on the good guys, Fett on the bad, and a Kaminian for neutral things. I know it is a lot of work but it would makethe site a lot more interesting too.

May fourth

Did they mention that it was star wars day on May fourth?

  • No, that would be May 19.
  • Nah May the fourth is Star Wars day "May the fourth be with you" is the customary greeting. incidentally May 19th is my birthday HavetStorm 18:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Encyclopodia

I was surfing the web and found encyclopodia, a free utility to have all of wikipedia on your ipod, I was wondering if there was a way to do this with the Wookieepedia? --Solo89 24.45.40.60 9:20, 13 May 2006

  • Link please? - Sikon [Talk] 13:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Sorry Sikon http://encyclopodia.sourceforge.net/en/index.html -- Solo89

Upper righthand image

That doesn't look like it fully meshes with the rest of the main page. The background is a different color and it's grainier. It should either be removed or modified, IMHO. Kuralyov 07:59, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Different color? Hmm, indeed, although it's unnoticeable on my monitor. Perhaps we should ask Riff if he has a PNG version. - Sikon [Talk] 08:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Made another one based on the same concept, does it look better? - Sikon [Talk] 09:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • It still looks rather out of place, along with the about image. --SparqMan 19:59, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Indeed. Can't we just remove it? --Imp 03:07, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Le Star Wars Wiki en Francais

Wookieepedia est seulement pour les articles en Anglais. Tu peux trouver le Star Wars Wiki en Francais ici: Acceuil. StarNeptuneTalk to me! 08:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Oui je sais mais il faudrait un lien plus visible pour y allez!
  • Il serait bien que Accueil y redirige.
  • --Wikisoft* @@@-fr 08:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Could someone translate? I'm taking French but still don't completely understand it...

Language links

The whole point of the language links at the top was so that editors who speak a different language could access a sister site and maybe help out. Putting it under a category is less visible and (imo) makes those links inaccessible. StarNeptuneTalk to me! 19:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. RMF 20:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, I see. Although the links as they are currently positioned make the top box a little bit awkward and bulky, IMO. AdamwankenobiTalk to me! My home. 20:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Maybe there is some way we can fix it so it's still prominient, but not bulky? StarNeptuneTalk to me! 20:55, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Major spoiler link

That "major spoiler" link seems awkward. Is it necessary? --SparqMan 20:00, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. It's repetitive, as the user is already warned, and when they come to a page with major spoilers, they will encounter the big black spoiler warning box. AdamwankenobiTalk to me! My home. 20:41, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

"View Source"

I've been noticing that the "View Source" tab has been replaced a lot with the regular "Edit" tab. How/why is this? IF only Sysop and up can edit it, why are they switching it back to "Edit"?

--DarthCow--Talk| Email 03:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Interfaces

thumb|right|Example of what I am looking for: Jedi archive map

Any idea where can I find images of interfaces used in Star Wars movies, games or comics? I would really glad for links to articles...

Or mayby there should be created such gallery? With shots of interfaces (eg. Jedi Archive map)?

Mods

there is always cofusion about video game mods based on the star wars universe and if they are cannon or not. some people beleive that the ships are cannon such as the geonosian drednaught and legacy class super star destroyer. a whole new section should be created specifically for mods and the none cannon iformation within them —Unsigned comment by Ralok Agum (talk • contribs)

Dates

Is there any way to convince you to change the dates of the Rise of the Empire, Rebellion, and New Republic Eras? The current dates make no sense at all. The Rise of the Empire should end in 19 BBY (formation of the Empire), the Rebellion Era should be as far back as 19 BBY, and extend until 19 ABY (the dissolution of the Empire). Again, the current dates make no sense at all. —Unsigned comment by Bredd13 (talk • contribs)

  • They are, I agree, arbitrary, weird, and almost nonsensical when thought of as in-universe historical periods. However, they are actually out-of-universe eras used by Lucasfilm to divide up books, movies, comics, and video games. —Silly Dan (talk) 02:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm aware of they're origins, I just don't really care. They just don't make any damn sense! If they're going to be on the main page, they should be in-universe dates. There is already a separate in-universe era system (but those dates aren't all that good either). I think we should switch the two--make the in-universe ones on the main page, and hide the publishing dates under the carpet. —Unsigned comment by Bredd13 (talk • contribs)
    • See here. Jasca Ducato 08:31, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
      • I'm the one that wrote that. Bredd13 20:04, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Color

Why don't we simply use the sky color scheme, as it most resembles Wikipedia. I think it would be nice for the main page to stay in one form, rather than weekly alternating between designs. AdamwankenobiTalk to me! My home. 02:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Because we're very specifically trying not to be the Wikipedia. We currently have skin designers designing an entirely new design for the site which I'll be paying for and, at that time, we may again have to change the Main Page. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 02:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Cool. :) AdamwankenobiTalk to me! My home. 02:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion, yes or no.

I was thinking about it, and since this wiki has thousands of pages about Star Wars, I think we could pull of a weekly trivia challange thing. Not like a whole thing for money but you know, a fun little thing where contributing people come up with questions and every week we put up a new set for people to try to answer by themselves and see how much they know about Star Wars. This is going on too long so I just want to know if this is possible? -Bravedude

  • I'm not sure, but check out the trivia quiz in the community portal.Bonko 16:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I though we could have a poll.

New Canon level

I was thinking of harrassing Lucasfilm a little with a request that they create a new level of canon. Start a petition or something. A kind of canon for obscure little magazine stories and video games in particular. I am tired, as I am sure many of us are, that video game devs with an at best shallow understanding of the intricate connections and nuances of the SW universe create cool little additions to their games because of design decisions aimed at earning money and reaching a bigger audience, or break canonical rules for the sake of making the game-designing easier and cheaper. Without knowing it contradicts established canon or complicates issues we thought we had a neat understanding of, these people make in-universe alterations and additions for out-of-universe reasons, with the result that a lot of poor sods have to go through the trouble of retconing their crap to stabilize continuity. Not to mention us poor fans who are desperately trying to see this universe as a whole, but are baffled by the lack of consistency between sources.

How would you like a new level of canon located just below C-canon that allowed video game devs to spew their fanon to their harts desire, but didn't count as C-canon unless it appeared in another source as well?

  • Nope. Video games, unless explicitly stated, are canon unless contradicted by another source. And even "obscure little magazine stories" are cannon, the only exceptions being stats found in Polyhedron mag, and even those enjoy a form of quasi-canon, similar to what you mentioned. Moreover, I doubt your petition will get far. Oh, and how are you a "poor sod" who has to "retcon their crap"? Fans don't have any say in the canocity of a product - Kwenn 15:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I don't remember asking if it was canon. I am painfully aware it is. I was asking for opinions. And why do you doubt it could happen. It would save Leland a whole lot of retconing work to create a new level of canon, or at least put video games in the S category.
      • To what point and purpose? Why create even more overly-complex levels of canon? "Oh, well this is an official Star Wars video game, and it's part of the canon, but isn't quiiiiite as canon as that video game, because a couple of fans don't like it much." Wouldn't work - Kwenn 15:40, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
        • Are you deliberately misunderstanding? You go and do your homework (check out how KotOR and Jedi Knight have messed with the rest of continuity, giving mr. Chee a bit of extra work to do, and myself a headache), and maybe you will see that this most certainly is not a matter of a few fans not liking a some games.
          • Who are you, exactly, to have been given such a headache by some elements of a fictional universe being more fictional than other pieces of that same fiction? And yes, I'm well aware KotOR shifted the style of the era in favour of the PT and so on and so forth, but does that mean KotOR should be suddenly deemed a lower state of canon because you don't happen to agree with it? Where would the line be drawn? Dark Empire involves machines gobbling up planets, maybe that shouldn't be as canon as something else? Or maybe the Sith creating Anakin goes against what was presented in TPM, so should RotS be striken from the canon? - Kwenn 15:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
          • Isn't this also a matter of what you like and don't like? I'd say that many of the literary EU-works have messed up the continuity as well and added very silly things, in many cases much worse than KOTOR, JK etc. KEJ 16:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
          • Thank you for a valid counterargument at last. My headache is a matter of fandom.

This is not a matter of what I think is silly. This is a matter of less informed licenced creators creating works that contradict existing canon to a point where it cannot even conceivably be retconed, like KotOR's technology level. How do you retcon that?! Silly additions to the existing universe must be tolerated, since they are a matter of taste, but you shoudn't have to tolerate gross canon breach from a source that was only released to make money. My angle is that these "lesser" works be treated as less canonical becuse they were not made by the same knowledgable people who usually write the novels. Game desigers have too much else on their mind to make the kind of in-depth research we have, and therfore shouldn't be entrusted with C-canon certification, and probably wouldn't have been if not for the hordes of doe they bring to the table. And is your honest opinion that unintentional canon breach is okay, when this very site, if nothing else, has gone to the step of compiling all SW material in a way that enables us to see the universe as a whole? I have never seen this done before, and I can only assume this is why the inconsistencies have been allowed to continue for so long. I view this as a serious problem.

  • Again, how do you judge what should go in this category? Would all games simply be relegated to that category, simply because their designers apparently don't care about canon? No offense, but that's a load of osik. Besides, KotOR's tech level is easy to retcon; the galaxy enjoyed an advancement in technology with the end of the war. No post-KotOR source depicts the galaxy with the TotJ style, so there's no contradiction - Kwenn 16:32, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Not a bad retcon, not bad at all. Wish I had thought of that.

Isn't the very purpose of S-canon that everything in it that isn't in violation of C-canon, can be considered C-canon as well, at least until another work surfaces to dispute that claim? If video games were put in the S-category, the problem of deciding would solve itself. Everything that contradicts canon can be disregarded, everything else can be considered healthy additions to the universe.

      • Do what you will, but here, video games are canon - Kwenn 16:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Background of the Wiki

File:A long time ago.jpg|thumb|right200 px Could the color of the background be changed to black, which would represent space? White is rather dull, and black is the color of the opening logo to the Star Wars films. [1] --Shon Kon Ray 22:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

The writing could be blue. --Shon Kon Ray 05:31, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

  • IIRC, Jaymach is having something like this developed. Adamwankenobi 06:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Unlisted categories

  • I've noticed, while looking for articles on various types of wood, that not all categories are actually listed in the "In-Universe Articles" list. I'm not talking about subcats, I'm talking about entire categories, like "Science" and "Products". I realize they have comparatively few articles, but I feel they should still be on there, since there's no way to discover that they even exist unless you search for them, and the point of the main page list is so that you don't have to do that.
    • If you click the "In-universe categories" heading, it takes you to Category:In-universe articles, which has all of them. -LtNOWIS 03:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Minor main page tweak

I'm just chiming in to say that an administrator needs to remove the "Upcoming quotes" link from the main page as the page it links to has been deleted.–SentryTalk 05:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Wow, that was real clever of me. If I had taken a moment to view the page source, I would have realized that I could have edited Template:QOTD myself…–SentryTalk 06:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Search plugin autodiscovery

Would it be possible to incorporate search plugin autodiscovery as described here for use with the next version of Firefox (and presumably other browsers)? You can also see an example of it in use on the Wikipedia homepage.

  • I second this if anyone know how to do it. The Broox

Enough is enough...

I am tired of these KotOR quote-of-the-days. Doesn't everyone agree? Totema1 20:31, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes. But it's what they voted for. Nothing you can do about it. --RedemptionTalk 15px 20:32, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, you can nominate some good non-KOTOR quotes and hope they get lots of votes! -- Ozzel 20:36, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Whats wrong with the KotOR quotes?? It shows they're good and memorable, and that people like them. Have you ever played Kotor? Master Nikolce 07:03, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

expanded

someone was vandalizing the Skyroute D25D article by puttin a ton of expand signs. please lock. —Unsigned comment by 71.236.79.160 (talk • contribs)

Okay it might of stopped and it doesn't need protected anyways not everything needs protected. It still needs some kind of tag. I'll put a stub tag on it and also always sign your posts with ~~~~.--Team6and7 19:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Who placed the Quote of the day at the bottom?

well? --Master Nikolce 06:51, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

  • According to page history, Imperialles. I have no idea why, though. --Tinwe 06:54, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
    • I for one like the new location of the QOTD. It makes the Main Page look neater. Adamwankenobi 06:56, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Neater?? What do you mean, it looked fine before. Master Nikolce 07:07, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
        • It looks better now! Leave it. Themelle444 09:08, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
          • I did it, yeah. The QOTD section was taking up way too much space, and stealing the main focus of the page from the Navigation, FA, and category sections. Which, at any rate, are way more important than quotes. If you look at Wikipedia's Main Page, the Picture of the Day is close to the bottom for the exact same reason. --Imp 10:57, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
            • So I guess its going to stay at the bottom? I liked the previous version personally. Maybe we should have a vote or something? Chack Jadson 11:47, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
              • At first I thought somebody had deleted the section. It's a bit silly at the bottom, IMO. If it's down there where people won't see it there seems little point in it being there at all. -- beeurd talk 20:28, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
                • I second a vote on this, i like it better on the top. Ugluk: Destroyer of RedlinksWhine Here 22:39, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
                  • For good or bad i started a consensus track about it. Ugluk: Destroyer of RedlinksWhine Here 01:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
                    • I'm fine with either.--Lord OblivionComlink30px 01:47, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Wookieepedian of the month

It says on the main page that Ozzel is the Wookieepedian of the month for September. Isn't he October's Wookieepedian of the month?--Lord OblivionSith holocron30px 17:52, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Is it encouraged for users to update the Did You Knows?

Or is this frowned upon and is supposed to be an admin job? 82 Airborne 23:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Go for it! That's what it's there for. —Silly Dan (talk) 23:27, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Dissappearing Links?

I have noticed that in many important articles, such as Tatooine and Clone Trooper, links are no longer included in their featured quotes. However, other prime articles, such as Qui-Gon Jinn remain untouched in this manner. What is this all about? Totema1 21:52, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

  • A recent update to Wookieepedia:Manual of Style mandated this. —Silly Dan (talk) 22:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
    • So "Jedi Knight" and "Grey Jedi" are obscure? Totema1 23:04, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
      • No, we just haven't gone through and fixed every single quote yet. —Silly Dan (talk) 23:08, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
        • OK, I guess I can help out. Totema1 23:09, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
          • Thanks! —Silly Dan (talk) 23:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Galleries

  • I think that a new category should be added for images Smokey 19:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
    • There already is - Category:Images --Xwing328(Talk) 22:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Huh?

A while ago, someone unprotected the main page and then the page was protected again. Who is the person who unprotected the page?--SWME 23:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

It has been protected since June 11 according to the log but that protection was lost when the page was deleted. Angela talk 08:33, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Better Featured Article Picture?

Hi all, I was wondering if there's any chance of changing the image for this weeks featured article, The Battle of Nar Shadaa. I Googled some images for it, you can check them out here http://images.google.co.uk/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=Battle+of+Nar+Shadaa&btnG=Search%7Chere

Istrancis 21:46, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

what the?

where is the Darth Vader Article? I can't find it anywhere? It's one of the most important articles of wookiepedia, it just can't dissappear.

Master Nikolce 06:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

  • It was merged with Anakin Skywalker. –SentryTalk 07:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

hi darth k here i just thought i,d say hi so...HI

Wookiepedia has changed man, it should go back into it orginal glory

I still remember the time when i first joined wookiepedia. I was still deciding on what my name should be. When i joined wookie, i was a astonished: This wiki had everything: long detailed and elaborate info on anything star wars,an image on everything,refrences, special behind the scens paragraphs, special paragraphs of the characters like:personality, portrayal, special info that wiki does not have, Internal links to hundreds of different articles, from the word itself, to a sentence, to simple words like :he, she, that here ETC. This wiki had everyrthing a star wars fan needed. But things started to change:

Links to articles started disappearing, articles merging and huge debates happening, then this happened: Anakin Skywalker had merged with Darth Vader. The articles were huge themselves:

WARNING: This page is 157 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections.

Not only has this upset many people,users and general public alike, but it is as if, some wookiepedians are becoming lazy or changing wookiepedia for some bureaucratic reason.

People, wookiepdia has became "Sci Fi Site of the Week", we should still make wookie, be worthy of that honour.

All I'm saying is, wookiepeia should still be the same great website that everyone loves and appreciate, still the same detail, and best of all, the same material that even causal fans or critics like especially popular articles like Darth Vader. You may call me stupid, naive, a complete moron, or anything else you could think of. In short, let wookiepedia have the same glory that is had before.

User:144.132.4.16|144.132.4.16 04:04, 12 November 2006 (UTC) 09:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC) (i don't want to use my real name, users would or could insult me, and i prefer to not be made fun of) If you do find out my real user name, please don't insult me.

May the individual article Known in the recent past as the lone Darth Vader, rest in peace.

  • We are basing the merge on spoilers from the upcoming film The Empire Strikes Back. Apparently, Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader are...wait for it...the same person! Can you believe it? .... 04:07, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
    • I love the sarcasm. Man, it would be insane if we linked every single he or she or whatever nowadays. --Xwing328(Talk) 03:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
      • I had problems reading your rant mostly because you didn't spell "wookiee" correctly... Anyway, merging is a good idea because that keeps an article about Anakin and an article about Vader from having a lot of the same information. Plus with computers getting faster and internet speeds increasing, the majority of people can open larger pages and edit them.--Taybo20 20:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Anakin and Vader are the same person?!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! That's not true. That's impossible! OK, seriously, I agree that the AniVader article is now extremely and cumbersomely long. I voted to keep them separate. But, more people voted to merge them than separate them. Get over it. And WookieEpedia hasn't changed. Maybe your perception of it has in some way. - JMAS 20:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

This may be a dumb question but

is there a rule that prohibits users from insulting, cursing each other for any reason. What happens if a user joked to another user for a comment about an article he/she edited or made a discussion comment, and if the user got offended?

what happens then?Master Nikolce 04:09, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Well, it's hardly worth going around and using your IP (see above), but usually there's a reprimand. Wookieepedia: Civility is what we abide by. .... 04:11, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
  • See also: WP:NPA. –SentryTalk 04:13, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
    • But this also brings up an interesting case - what if the user is easily offended, and is offended by something that has no malicious intent whatsoever? Or is just offended by simple, harmless sarcasm? Where do we toe the line? .... 04:17, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

What exactly is the IP? Master Nikolce 04:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

  • 144.132.4.16. .... 04:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
    • We all have to assume good faith. If the problem escalates, both parties should follow the advice provided over at Wookieepedia:Dispute resolution. If the argument continues, you can ask for moderation over at the Administrator's noticeboard.–SentryTalk 04:27, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Ah. There you go, answered perfectly. .... 04:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

User: Thefoutdotelipsis, your writing "what if the user is easily offended, and is offended by something that has no malicious intent whatsoever? Or is just offended by simple, harmless sarcasm? Where do we toe the line?" That was what i also meant to say on my question.

Note: I Wasn't referring to me being offended, i was meaning other users, or new users or people new to internet etc. Don't think me as some one easily hurt, I'm just a nice guy whose kind to other users, who can rarely mistake someones comment as an insult. Heck, I've been AWARDED a high award for my kindness on Homestar runner wiki. So, if you find my easy kind talking worthy of a joke, well i suppose your simply acting sarcastic or funny. Master Nikolce 04:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Well, you just let admins like Sentry here worry about that. .... 04:46, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
    • I'm not joking. I just found the above comments by the above IP and yours on Talk:Anakin Skywalker to have startling similarities. .... 04:59, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Fourdot tends to be sarcastic quite regularly. I advise he tone it down some so as to not confuse others. :) -- Riffsyphon1024 05:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Ugh...I hate having to make myself foolproof. ;) .... 05:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Quote of the day source

Can the publisher of the quotes of the day please put the source of the quotes as well? (Micah Giett, 21:17 (EST) 16 November 2006)

  • Why, you don't know where "I have a bad feeling about this" comes from? :P .... 02:19, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
  • We're working on this. These days most of the quotes are sourced, invisibly. You can find out by opening up the quote's page in the archive and hitting "edit" Enochf 20:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC) (but yeah, if it's from a comic or novel, most people won't know)
  • "I have a bad feeling about this" comes form just about everything. But no, I don't read and reread all of the novels and comic books to remember every quote. (Micah Giett, 21:23 18 November 2006)

User Profile Stuff

Can someone please tell me how to get the little boxes on your profile that gives info on you? (ex) -This user is a male.

    -This user is a starwars gamer.
    -This user has an advanced knowledge of the starwars universe.

--ShadowTrooper 22:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Well, there's a topic on userbox templates, but I don't know what it is. The easiest way (I think) is to go to users with a lot of userboxes, hit their edit button, look at the code, and make your own from those examples. Feel free to look at mine for some custom examples. Jorrel Fraajic 22:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
  • {{user male}}, {{user sw-3}}. Also, see Wookieepedia:Template messages/User namespace/. —Xwing328(Talk) 23:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks for showing the link Xwing... I couldn't find it earlier. Jorrel Fraajic 00:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
    • No problem —Xwing328(Talk) 01:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
      • I had the same problem with that too, but thanks to a little researching, now I know what to do.--Humantoo 01:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

How did you do this?

I like your main page, it looks really good! I have a question: how did you get rid of the words "Main Page" on top of the main page that MediaWiki displays by default? --Spankart 20:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

  • It's actually just hidden, because the margin at the top is -2.4em. —Xwing328(Talk) 17:34, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Thanks. I tried this in my own wiki's main page, but I couldn't get it to work. If anyone feels like giving me a hand... --Spankart 00:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
      • How's that look? The number just had to be increased, and you had some uneccesary code specific to this wiki. —Xwing328(Talk) 19:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Well, now the headline is further up but it still doesn't hide the words "Main Page". I'm currently fiddling with an empty white image to do this, but it's difficult to position... --Spankart 00:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
          • Hmm, it hides it on my machine. What browser and monitor resolution are you using? —Xwing328(Talk) 02:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
          • I see...I checked it with Firefox now. If "Main Page" is showing to the left of the page, try increasing the margin-left value. You shouldn't need to use the white image either, since the table has a white background, and the image is just part of the table. —Xwing328(Talk) 02:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
            • Now it's perfect (yes I'm using Firefox) - thanks so much, Xwing328! --Spankart 17:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
              • No problem! —Xwing328(Talk) 21:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Along the same lines, I noticed that the "Main Page" header is back... is something up with the wiki formatting? Jorrel Fraajic 00:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Contributors

  • At the bottom of the page it says it was based on work by, among others, several variations of Supershadow, and a user called anal sucker. I'm assuming this is vandalism. Could some admin fix it please? Chack Jadson 15:32, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
    • It's not vandalism: it's a new feature on Wikia. See this explanation on the central Wikia wiki, and this forum where I complain about it. —Silly Dan (talk) 16:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
      • But, it says that you can remove those names with a certain code. Or am I misinterpreting it (it's confusing and seems to contradict itself)? Chack Jadson 02:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
        • You can, but we complained that it was too much work, so Wikia seems to have removed the feature for now. Angela's latest comment says that it might be brought back (since people from other wikis specifically requested it), but with restrictions. For instance, if blocked users had their userpages deleted, they might not be listed in the credits. —Silly Dan (talk) 02:46, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
          • I like it without the names listed, for what my opinion's worth. Chack Jadson 14:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
            • If there were an easy way to list only the legitimate editors of a page, I'd actually like it. The problem is that the way it was implemented yesterday, there was no easy way to do this. (There was a way, but not one I'd call "easy.") —Silly Dan (talk) 17:25, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Quote Move

  • Why was the QOTD moved? It appears it was Sikon, so can you please explain why? I liked it better on the right personally. Chack Jadson not logged in at about 19:40

Current FA

When I click on the link for the current FA, I get a redirect to the "Jedi" article, which IMO is kinda sloppy for an FA. I can't edit the main page, but could an admin fix it, please? Thanks very much.--CT-5619 helmet comlink 21:17, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Sorry, the "Jedi" article is indeed this week's FA, and yes, it's sloppy. --Imp 21:21, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Images

I have only just returned to Wookieepedia after a long break and now I find everyone getting worked up about image sources (It seems rather extreme, especially if the images are simply being used for user pages). Several of my uploaded pictures from way back, last year and the year before have now been deleted and it seems rather petty. Perhaps I've missed lots of new rules or something or am simply being stupid. Oh well--Darth Mantus 19:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Sorry. That sounded like an annoyed child!--Darth Mantus 14:36, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Featured Picture

I think it would be a good idea to pick a different picture every week and put it up like we do the featured articles.--MandalorianOrdo54 21:27, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes LOTR Wiki does that as well--Darth Mantus 14:37, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
    • No. As someone pointed out, we're already on a shaky legal ground. - Sikon 14:52, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

How do you make the pages blue?

Hi, I'm going to do a wiki of my own (not star wars!) and want to know how you made the pages light blue as opposed to the standard white? Thanks Just The Q 00:28, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

  • You have to modify the CSS stylesheets. You can add CSS styling to MediaWiki:Common.css which can be applied to all available skins on the wiki. In addition, each individual skin has its own stylesheet which can be used to make modifications to the styling of that skin alone. For instance, Sikon made some changes to MediaWiki:Monobook.css which changed the background color to light blue when using the monobook skin. The CSS markup is: body { background: #f4f8ff }.–SentryTalk 00:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok I've been given sysops or administrator or something powers on this site and I tried it but it didn't work: http://thebill.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css
I also tried something else I saw here on the star wars site that I think makes the "From Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki." bit come up. Can someone have a look and see what I've done wrong. Many Thanks, Just The Q 01:14, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, it looks likes it worked=) Remember that you have to refresh your browser cache in order to see your changes take affect immediately.–SentryTalk 01:19, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh right? - you can see it?! How do I refresh my browser then? (By the way, many thanks for your help!!!) Just The Q 01:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
And also, how do I make it so everyone else's works as well? It worked for you, didn't for me - did you "refresh your browser cache" so you could see it or did you not need to. Apologies for my ignorance - I'm new to this!!

I've figured it out! thanks - Just The Q 03:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Colosseam

Hi, I have an idea for Wookiepedia. Why don't we have a Colosseum page and every week, we should have a battle between two similar people from Star Wars (an example would be Young Obi-Wan .VS. Old Obi-Wan). And we could vote for who would win and why. Much like the Dragon's Neck Colosseam from Final Fantasy Wiki. So how about it? ShadowLaguna 22:15, 28 December 2006 (NZT)

  • Wookieepedia is not the place for battles between characters. See also Wookieepedia:What Wookieepedia is not. -- Riffsyphon1024 09:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Oh, i'm sorry I didn't read it before. My apoligies. -- ShadowLaguna 22:24, 28 December 2006 (NZT)
      • You'd probably be interested in User:BobafettH23/Friday night fight|this. -- I need a name (Complain here) 12:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
        • I'm not sure if we even support that usage of user subpages. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

This is totally better than Wikipedia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!141.150.42.233