Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting 136

Inquisitorius Meeting 136, the Most Uncertain Meeting So Far, will be held at 6:00 PM UTC / 2:00 PM ET on April 2, 2022. Or will it? No one knows. You'll have to attend to find out.

Agenda

Old items? Or new items? No one knows.

• Mitth'ras'safis/Legends (diff • review)
• Battle of Teth/Legends (diff • review)
• Battle of the Rishi moon (diff • review)
• Battle of Kiros/Legends (diff • review)
• Bilar (diff • review)
• Anti-Terrorism Unit (diff • review)
• Shawda Ubb/Legends (diff • review)
• Second Battle of Geonosis/Legends (diff • review)
• Paltr Carvin (diff • review)
• Syal Antilles (diff • review)
• Myneyrsh (diff • review)
• Sander Delvardus (diff • review)

New items. Why are we probing new items? Maybe they should be considered old items. Really makes you think.

Expand as needed. See Maintenance bin.

• Stennes Shifter/Legends
  • Page number citations.
  • I feel like only the first and second sentence of second paragraph are needed. The game statistics text is for sure not needed.
    • Addendum: meant to say the second behind the scenes paragraph. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 02:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Stennes sector isn't canon, so rewrite in some manner to reflect that. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 21:12, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
• Blount/Legends
  • Variation of this figure's packaging shows what can only be interpreted as an IU image of him on Endor. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 22:22, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
    • From discussing with others, treated the figure's image of Blount as an IU error and updated. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 13:35, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
• CT-782/Legends
  • Homeworld and height ref needs clarification.
  • Duplicate links.
  • Needs a lot more sectioning, quotes, and images.
  • Needs "Skills and abilities" and "Equipment" sections.
  • BTS:
    • Some information isn't supported by Rookies; voice actor and air date.
    • Redundant information.
    • Should note what designation the article uses.
  • Use {{CWMCite}} for Clone Wars Magazine. UberSoldat93 (talk) 05:43, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
• Sha'a Gi
  • Infobox exclusive data.
  • Behind the scenes not 100% cited.
  • Note: for whoever decides to fix it, I would advise to read the Databank and compare it line by line with whatever's cited to it. Same goes with any other written sources. Extrapolation was very common in status articles at the time, and I've fixed more than one of those. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 17:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
    • All taken care of, thank you. Samonic (Talk) 13:14, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Let's see some sectioning in the Biography.
    • Taken care of by Samonic. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 12:09, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Those images can be reduced in size.
    • Why? - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 12:09, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Missing air date.
    • What site do we use to provide accurate sourcing for airdates beyond just sourcing it to the episode itself? - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 12:09, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
  • I want to see a more relevant BTS image employed (e.g. Clone Wars logo). UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:11, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
    • I see no reason why an actual image of the character should be replaced with a generic logo. The character themselves is as relevant as you can get to the article. - Sir Cavalier of One^{(Squadron channel)} 12:09, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
• Blockade of the Rimma Trade Route
  • The Begeren ref should mention the blockade itself and provide a corresponding source.
  • Dates refs should be revised for linking and tense issues.
  • Can cut down on some of the wordy context in the first part of the intro. Same for the first body paragraph.
  • WP:MOS linking policy violations.
  • Below 1000 words. OOM 224 23:16, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
• CT-21-0408
  • The date isn't sourced properly, and the double ref for death location is unnecessary. Therefore, there should be a singular note covering both details using another source.
  • Lots of empty space for images.
  • Needs more paragraph breaks and sectioning, and thus quotes.
  • Would like to see a Skills and abilities section.
  • BTS:
    • Some information isn't supported by Rookies
    • Redundant information
    • Unsourced information.
    • Should elaborate more on LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars appearance.
  • Redlinked image category.
  • Use {{CWMCite}} for Clone Wars Magazine. UberSoldat93 (talk) 06:30, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
• Blastsword
  • BTS needs to be referenced. Imperators II^(Talk) 12:38, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Redirect. Samonic (Talk) 12:57, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
    • Taken care of the redirect. Samonic (Talk) 13:14, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
    • BtS referencing done; additional cleanup complete.—spookywilloww^talk 17:51, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
• Pash Cracken
  • Multiple redirects and one redlink. Samonic (Talk) 09:41, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
    • Done OOM 224 20:56, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
• Bane Malar/Legends
  • Behind the scenes not 100% sourced. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:35, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Certain text cited to the Databank is extrapolation, just from a skim. Databank entry should be compared line by line with what's cited to it, and article rewritten as needed.
  • 4 ABY needs another source. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 20:42, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
• Dar Keyis
  • Biography subsectioning could be added.
  • Equipment could be added.
  • Image is extremely small; there's also space for another if it can be found.
  • Missing context/linking issues peppered throughout.
  • Uncited BtS.—spookywilloww^talk 21:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
• Defender-class light corvette/Legends
  • Update required.
  • Enlarge body images.
  • Some redundant BTS information. UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:31, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
• Etahn A'baht
  • Equipment needed.
  • Many of the worlds/characters mentioned throughout the body are contextless.
  • Some of the BtS content may not be relevant.
  • Enlarge/possibly add more images.
  • Better image quality for the file under "Operation Strong Hand" (see discoloring along top)
  • Double referencing in succession box could be solved with written date notes.—spookywilloww^talk 17:51, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
    • Trimmed BtS, enlarged existing images, replaced the offending image, and removed the double references. Not got time to do the rest before the meeting, so I'll get to it on probation. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 13:11, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
• Ackmena/Legends
  • Infobox exclusive information.
  • Dates can be given for the battles of Yavin and Endor.
  • Split possible in "Broadcast blues" section?
  • Additional images could be added; some of the current ones could be made bigger.
  • Condensation of the 4-referenced instance in the BtS; can be established with less.
  • Some scattered missing links and context additions needed.—spookywilloww^talk 20:15, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
    • All done. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 14:22, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
• Voren Na'al/Legends — Potential update required. UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:07, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
  • It turned out to be information behind one of the preexisting citations to the sourcebook. Citation changed. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 03:25, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
• Llon Banjeer
  • Missing context throughout.
  • Biography sectioning could be added.
  • Equipment needed.
  • BtS could use slight trimming of some irrelevant info.
  • Infobox exclusive information.—spookywilloww^talk 00:17, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Discussion may or may not occur

Expand as needed.

• I won't be there to propose this, but as discussed on Discord, let's create WP:FAN rule #15: "[A Featured article]…must be nominated by a user who has promoted at least two articles to Good article status." This will ensure that users promoting FAs have the proper experience beforehand. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 01:10, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Attendance

Tentatively mayhaps attending

1. Certainly possibly OOM 224 16:50, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
2. Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 18:09, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Definitely unsure

1. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 17:42, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
2. UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:07, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
3. MasterFred(talk) (he/him) 18:12, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
4. Imperators II^(Talk) 08:17, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
5. Saturday nights continue to be terrible. 1358 ^(Talk) 15:21, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

This might be the notes section, but you can't tell for sure

Shayanomer

• Kill all old, keep any that are fixed.
• Probe all new, spare those fixed.
• Meeting host gets my vote. UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:17, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
• Support proposal. UberSoldat93 (talk) 04:02, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

?

• Supoort my proposal, notes per Shay. Ecks Dee gets my vote. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 03:48, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Who am I?

• Kill all old. Probe all new. Support J-Mac's proposal. OOM gets my vote. MasterFred(talk) (he/him) 18:12, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Imp

• Fred does it best. Imperators II^(Talk) 08:17, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Ecks

• Keep: Mitth'ras'safis/Legends
• Kill: all the other old articles
• Spare: Blount/Legends, Blastsword, Pash Cracken, Ackmena/Legends, Voren Na'al/Legends
• Probe: the rest of the new
• Unless SE (the only one who hasn't signed up yet) shows up, I suggest postponing this meeting. I cannot in good conscience give OOM unlimited powah. :P
• As for Macaroni's proposal, I support, but I think it should be one GA, not two. The GA process is rigorous enough to ensure any FAN nominators know what they're getting into. 1358 ^(Talk) 15:21, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Minutes

Attendance

• Master Fredcerique
• OOM 224
• Supreme Emperor

Articles stripped of Featured article status

• Battle of Teth/Legends
• Battle of the Rishi moon
• Battle of Kiros/Legends
• Bilar
• Anti-Terrorism Unit
• Shawda Ubb/Legends
• Second Battle of Geonosis/Legends
• Paltr Carvin
• Syal Antilles
• Myneyrsh
• Sander Delvardus

Articles that kept Featured article status

• Mitth'ras'safis/Legends

Articles placed on probation

• Stennes Shifter/Legends
• CT-782/Legends
• Sha'a Gi
• Blockade of the Rimma Trade Route
• CT-21-0408
• Bane Malar/Legends
• Dar Keyis
• Defender-class light corvette/Legends
• Etahn A'baht
• Llon Banjeer
• L'ulo L'ampar

Articles spared from probation

• Blount/Legends
• Blastsword
• Pash Cracken
• Ackmena/Legends
• Voren Na'al/Legends

Notes

• Imperators II does paperwork and schedules Meeting 137.
• The Inquisitorius voted to adopt Featured article nomination rule 15: "[Featured articles] ...must be nominated by a user who has promoted at least one article to Good article status."
• Log