Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting 118

The annual Inquisitorius Poker Night will be taking place on September 26, 2020, at 2 PM EST / 6 PM UTC. This will be a no-limit event so make sure that your financials are in order. As always, if you're going to bluff, make sure to leave notes.

The game

Flop

• Telosian Jedi Academy (diff • review) — extended at meeting 117
• Adar Tallon (diff • review)
• Uueg Tching (diff • review)
• Saun Dann (diff • review)
• Carosite (diff • review)
• Tiplee (diff • review)
• CC-5052/Legends (diff • review)
• Even Piell/Legends (diff • review)
• Firmus Nantz (diff • review)
• Pello Scrambas (diff • review)
• Hardcase/Legends (diff • review)

Turn

Raise if needed. Maintenance bin.

• Mission to free Wookiee prisoners — Update required UberSoldat93 (talk) 09:43, September 2, 2020 (UTC)
• Xamar
  • Last paragraph of Biography contains poorly written information that needs to be taken a look at.
  • First two paragraphs of BTS are not fully sourced; while this is being addressed, information in them that is basically a regurgitation of the Appearances/Sources sections should be removed.
  • Ref 8 should be formatted per other similar status article precedent.
  • Duplicate links.
  • Many paragraphs and sections are quite large and should be further divided and subsectioned as appropriate. This will allow for more room for additional images. Existing image thumbnails should also be reformatted for Oasis skin. Imperators II^(Talk) 13:14, September 5, 2020 (UTC)
• Bria Tharen
  • Article can use several paragraph breaks throughout to fit the Oasis skin.
    • Broken up the longest ones. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 20:06, September 23, 2020 (UTC)
  • Ref 5 needs to specify Databank entries.
    • Done. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 20:06, September 23, 2020 (UTC)
  • Can use both "Skills and abilities" and "Equipment" sections.
    • Added. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 20:06, September 23, 2020 (UTC)
  • BTS should be trimmed to remove redundant information from Appearances and Sources.
    • Removed. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 20:06, September 23, 2020 (UTC)
  • Audiobooks for The Paradise Snare, The Hutt Gambit, Rebel Dawn, Tatooine Ghost, and The New Jedi Order: Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial will all need to be checked for appearances/mentions. UberSoldat93 (talk) 15:03, September 10, 2020 (UTC)
    • Checked and added to appearances as appropriate. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 20:06, September 23, 2020 (UTC)
• Spar
  • Infobox-exclusive information
  • Height requires a separate note.
  • Biography can use a number of paragraph breaks.
  • Duplicate link in body.
  • Unsourced BTS information.
  • Legacy of the Force audiobooks (1, 2) should be checked for mentions. UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:34, September 18, 2020 (UTC)
• Nosaurian/Legends
  • Infobox-exclusive information.
  • Duplicate links.
  • Article can use sub-sectioning.
  • Redlinks.
  • Some of the paragraphs can be broken down.
  • Unsourced BTS information.
  • Remove page numbers from references.
  • References to The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia should use {{CSWECite}}.
  • Ref 65 needs to use {{DB}}.
  • Link to Star Wars: Force Collection should use {{ForceCollection}}.
  • The New Jedi Order: Edge of Victory II: Rebirth and The New Jedi Order: Star by Star audiobooks should be checked for mentions.
  • Should probably implement a scroll box for Appearances list.
  • Link to The Official Star Wars Fact File in Sources should use {{FFCite}}.
  • Enter the Unknown and Suns of Fortune need to be investigated for new information.
  • Format images properly to comply with Layout Guide.
  • Article should be cleaned up to remove extra apostrophes for italics. UberSoldat93 (talk) 19:00, September 20, 2020 (UTC)
• Omwati/Legends
  • Remove chapters and sections from references.
  • Unsourced BTS information.
  • Several of the novels have audiobook adaptations which should be checked for appearances/mentions.
  • Images should be moved below quotes.
  • If the History section has subheaders, then it should have a subheader at the beginning too.
  • Is the image under Appearances necessary? UberSoldat93 (talk) 20:27, September 21, 2020 (UTC)
• Ranulf Trommer
  • For one, it's my opinion that the level of detail in this article is insufficient. It just doesn't pass the eye test in terms of length and size. This is the main protagonist of a four-part comic series. Even without going into play-by-play, this article might easily be twice its current size.
  • Digitize comic images
  • General underlinking throughout
  • Infobox-exclusive information
  • Article needs to be sourced by individual issue, not the overall series name, so this article's entire referencing needs to be overhauled
  • BTS unsourced and lacking publication details. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:32, September 25, 2020 (UTC)
• Lens Reekeene
  • None of the BBY dates appear to be referenced correctly
  • General underlinking throughout
  • This sentence doesn't really make sense the way it's currently worded, and it's exclusive to the intro anyways. "Lens Reekeene, originally known as Lens..." Of course she was originally known as "Lens"; was she known only as Lens? This needs clarification.
  • Some of the details in the P/T need to be merged into an Equipment section, which should then be evaluated for whether it can be expanded with additional details
  • BTS is unsourced, and I'd say the second paragraph is unnecessary as of now. We can't definitively say the comic's shading didn't intend her eyes to also be blue.
  • It's unnecessary for reference 1 to repeat that its information was reprinted in something else
  • Rookie's Rendezvous will presumably be able to use the SW.com citation template since it was released online there. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:32, September 25, 2020 (UTC)
• Houk–Weequay conflicts
  • Few, if any, of the BBY/ABY dates appear to be referenced correctly. Perhaps the only ones that are are those sourced to GATORW, though I have no confidence this is true. This should definitely be checked, because it naturally was not at the time of original nomination.
  • Redirects, redlinks
  • Infobox Outcome field should be reorganized by separate bullet points
  • General underlinking throughout
  • Several larger-sized paragraphs will benefit from paragraph breaks
  • Revise incorrect end punctuation for image captions
  • A more compelling and descriptive image caption than just "Sriluur" is preferred
  • There's no reason why all the thumbnail images in the article can't benefit from image captions
  • BTS unsourced
  • This specific war almost certainly doesn't have an individual CSWE entry, so that item will need to be adjusted as necessary in the Sources list
  • Ref 2 needs to use CSWECite
  • Article needs to follow Layout Guide for battles/conflicts. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:42, September 25, 2020 (UTC)
• Glurrg
  • For starters, I'd say we need to move the tiny "Biology and appearance" image into the infobox as the main image. The one being used currently, you really can't even see what's going on there. The glurrgs are virtually indecipherable. At least in the tiny image you can see what it is, and it's certainly not the only place where we're using these little images.
  • Some general underlinking, double linking throughout
  • The "Biology and appearance" could use a paragraph break and could be written better in some places. In the middle of the paragraph, there are three sentences in a row that begin the same way, "Glurrgs, Glurrgs, Glurrgs." Mix it up a little bit.
  • In that same section, the first sentence isn't really referenced properly. It can't source the shorter-than-1.9m height straight to NEGAS like that, as that book does not mention this species. That will need a manual ref note to explain this.
  • Second paragraph of "Behavior and intelligence" could use a paragraph break, and then that section could probably be subsectioned.
  • I'd say the History section could benefit from subsectioning as well
  • Glurrgs are not mentioned in Essential Atlas, so it's not clear how that source is being used to reference the 3000 BBY date. That should use an explanatory ref note.
  • BTS is unsourced and could be written better than the "only appeared in" wording for the single source
  • "Concept art" designation is unnecessary for Sources item
  • I don't see why the parenthetical designation is necessary for the Databank ref note. Just use the correct archivedate URL in the template. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:42, September 25, 2020 (UTC)
• Battle of the World-Well
  • The BTS would suggest that his article title should not be formally capitalized, which will need to be revised in this article. The Appearances list will also need to indicate the first ID.
  • General underlinking throughout; or, in the case of the infobox, not linking upon first instance
  • Infobox can remove unnecessary single-item bullets
  • Article does not follow Layout Guide for battles
  • Thumbnail image caption could be rewritten to actually say something about the battle. It's not immediately clear if that image is even depicting this battle.
  • ABY date is exclusive to infobox and intro
  • BTS needs to specify publication date(s) and relevant authors as appropriate
  • The third BTS sentence is pure speculation typical of this article's original author and from the era in which this article was written. This needs to be removed, as does the speculative Appearances list item. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:51, September 25, 2020 (UTC)

River

Raise if needed.

Showdown

All in

1. Weeping blood comes merely from a derangement of the tear duct, my dear General. Nothing sinister. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:54, August 31, 2020 (UTC)
2. Remains to be seen. I'm heading home for the weekend to see family that've also come down, but I'm hoping I'll be able to sneak away to make the meeting. In the case I can't make it, I'll leave notes below when the {{Inqprobe}}s have been added. Tommy-Macaroni 10:25, September 26, 2020 (UTC)

Bluffers

1. Work Saturdays, notes are below. Supreme Emperor (talk) 02:22, September 26, 2020 (UTC)
2. Saturday nights are no good. 1358 ^(Talk) 10:38, September 26, 2020 (UTC)
3. Bluffers all the way. Imperators II^(Talk) 16:25, September 26, 2020 (UTC)

Fold

SE

• Kill Telosian academy, Adar Tallon, Uueg Tching, Carosite, Tiplee, CC-5052/Legends, Even Piell/Legends, Firmus Nantz, Pello Scrambas and Hardcase. Keep Saun Dann if no further issues are found, extend otherwise. Probe all the new things. Tope has my vote for any other things. Supreme Emperor (talk) 02:22, September 26, 2020 (UTC)

Tommy

• Kill: Adar Tallon, Uueg Tching, Carosite, Tiplee, CC-5052/Legends, Even Piell/Legends, Firmus Nantz, Pello Scrambas, Hardcase
• Keep/extend if further issues are found: Telosian Jedi Academy, Saun Dann
• Probe: Mission to free Wookiee prisoners, Xamar, Spar, Nosaurian, Omwati/Legends, Ranulf Trommer, Lens Reekeene, Houk–Weequay conflicts, Glurrg, Battle of the World-Well
• Spare: Bria Tharen
• Anything else, Tope has my vote. At this stage I'm hoping I'll be able to participate from my phone. Tommy-Macaroni 15:40, September 26, 2020 (UTC)

Ecks

• Notes per Tommy, on all counts. 1358 ^(Talk) 15:52, September 26, 2020 (UTC)

Imp

• Notes per ecks. :P Imperators II^(Talk) 16:25, September 26, 2020 (UTC)

The pot

Attendance

• Tommy-Macaroni
• Toprawa and Ralltiir

Articles stripped of status

• Adar Tallon
• Uueg Tching
• Saun Dann
• Carosite
• Tiplee
• CC-5052/Legends
• Even Piell/Legends
• Firmus Nantz
• Pello Scrambas
• Hardcase/Legends

Articles sent to Redux

• Telosian Jedi Academy

Articles placed on probation

• Mission to free Wookiee prisoners
• Xamar
• Spar
• Nosaurian/Legends
• Omwati/Legends
• Ranulf Trommer
• Lens Reekeene
• Houk–Weequay conflicts
• Glurrg
• Battle of the World-Well
• Imperial Sentinel

Notes

• Log
• AnilSerifoglu does paperwork