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Wow, when did the big [bad] changes happen to the article?

I haven't visited this page in like 2 months. Come back to check it out; and I see it has been completely altered and made to more look like the other timeline one (which had a horrible look, feel, and design to it). What a waste of a once good article here. *sigh* This is saddening and dissapointing. CBenoit 16:57, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

I see it was RedVix on April 4th who made the big change. May I just ask why? It was fine/better before. Now its completely screwed up. It looked near-perfect before. Now its completely horrible and mismanaged and bad looking. CBenoit 17:01, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I am just as shocked. In addition, now the Timeline of Adult Books has been replaced by the general timeline of books. I'm not one to complain, but was a discussion carried out prior to the drastic change?--Secretss 08:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Italics

Not to sound rude, but I think the list looked better with the novels not italicised.

  • Why not add comics too?

There is already one that has all books, short stories, comics, etc. I made this one for just books (thus TIMELINE OF BOOKS), its for the people who only read the books.

New Essential Chronology

Why is it placed in 28 ABY when it makes references to events from Unseen Queen, and is actually stated to have been written 36 years after Yavin? Aeods 07:24, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Contents

Is there any way to make the contents header at the beginning look better? CBenoit 16:25, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

  • I think you'd have to either make a custom template or remove it altogether, which probably wouldn't be worth it. --Xwing328(Talk) 23:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Merge Novel and Book lists?

I prefer the Novel list because the young reader books aren't included. I say either leave the 2 lists as is or change the book list to a young reader book list minus the novels. -Finlayson 00:53, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

It appears they were merged. I think it looked better un-merged. CBenoit 13:22, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Why should it be unmerged? There are two seperate timelines for the novels and the young adult books. This one simply merges both so there is no point in unmerging it.--Ranat 23 01:45, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
  • * The previous format was easier to read, less jumbled, and alot easier to navigate and such. The linear straight chronology kept it more in-line with in-universe rather than using eras and such.

I just think the previous version was much better. CBenoit 00:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Incorect Timeline

  • Storm Fleet Warnings takes place during the Clone Wars, not right before Episode II.

The Two jedi Aprentice Books shouldn't be were they are. atleast not the Jedi Aprentice SE II that should be someware after Ep I. and the Han Solo Books are out of Order. A.C. Crispon's books go TPS, THG, and then the other three Han Solo books and THEN at the same time as EP IV Rebel Dawn something needs to be done with this. does anyone ellse agree?

  • Han and Chewie go to the Corp. sector about a 1/3 of the way into Rebel Dawn. So if you list them by the year it starts, the order of the HS adventures and Rebel Dawn is correct. -Finlayson 06:18, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
  • The timeline mostly is centered off of the timeline given in the Del Rey books. Other sources contribute after that. CBenoit 12:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
  • I was thinking when it comes to books that go threw time eras/years we could do like what page number it starts for that year and ends for that year you know what I'm saying? Valin "Tnu" "Shido" Suul 23:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
    • If you want to go through each book to do that and list the pages, I guess go for it, but just make it look nice and neat.
    • The page numbers will probably be different in hardcover and paperback versions. -Finlayson 13:49, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Just make a note at the top, like we used to have for the Jedi Quest that had different timeframes (speaking of which... what happaned to that?), and have the note state that all pg. numbers go by either the paperback or the hardcover. CBenoit 13:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

ALSO, on the subject.... any truth to the change someone made moving Rebirth to 26.5 ABY rather than just at 26 ABY? CBenoit 12:11, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

The CORUSCANT NIGHTS trilogy takes place from 18.8-18.3 BBY, And the LAST OF THE JEDI Series states that "Obi-Wan has been on Tatooine for a year. So why can't the timeline put the entire Coruscant Nights trilogy before the entire Last of the Jedi series? ALSO- THE LIFE AND LEGEND OF OBI-WAN KENOBI, as well as THE RISE AND FALL OF DARTH VADER, actually TAKE PLACE in the time between Episodes V and VI. Not sure about A NEW HOPE: THE LIFE OF LUKE SKYWALKER yet. but if the novels place the story in that time period, why can't the timeline put them there? --70.5.46.204 20:38, November 13, 2009 (UTC)Jedi Master Archivist

Mist Encounter

X-Wing, why the revert? Mist Encounter should be listed due to it being in-print in a novel (BOOK). CBenoit 17:49, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Probably cause it is a short story. It is not a book itself. -Fnlayson 17:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Sry, I should've explained, but like Finlayson said, it's not a book itself. This list is only for books. For example, we have Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina, but not all the individual stories appearing within that book. —Xwing328(Talk) 18:01, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
      • This is slightly different though. This is basically the same as an e-book correct, since its available online. We have the ebooks listed, so why not list this? CBenoit 18:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
        • E-books are generally longer and are considered novellas. -Fnlayson 18:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Darth Bane: Path of destruction

In the Darth Bane: Path of Destruction article, it says the book is between 1003 BBY and 1000 BBY, not in 1020. Darth Echuta 21:17, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Galaxy of Fear

XWing32, why'd you move the Galaxy of Fear novels to 1 ABY.... when all of their pages list them as occuring at 0 ABY CBenoit 00:38, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Old Republic Era

Is it 1020 BBY or is it 1000 BBY? There seems to be numerous conflicting reports on this. CBenoit 16:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

  • The generally accepted demarcation between "Old Republic" and "Rise of the Empire" is 1000 BBY. DigiFluid 20:12, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Tales from books

Wondered about the placement of the Tales books...

[SW] Tales are comics or graphic novels, so look under Timeline of comics. -Fnlayson 21:42, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Not necessarily true; the two books he mentioned (Tales from the Empire, Tales from the New Republic) are books with multiple short stories in them. There's also three others - Tales from Mos Eisley, Tales from Jabba's Palace, Tales of the Bounty Hunters, all of which are on the timeline. -- DarkJedi613 (Talk) 01:41, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Sorry, I was referring to Star Wars Tales. Right, the Tales from books are anthologies, i.e. short stories collections. Tales of the Bounty Hunters may be similar. I know Interlude happens in 0 BBY. I don't know why the books are listed where they are. Probably cause the placement officially (or semi-officially) comes from Del Rey's time line. -Fnlayson 05:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I think thats where the placement came from. Tales of the Bounty Hunters is the same deal - anthology of short stories about the five bounty hunters chasing Han Solo in ESB. Edited by KJA. -- DarkJedi613 (Talk) 18:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Notation for young adult books

Should we add a notation like (YA) for young adult books? I personally don't mind doing so, and I think it's a good idea. My rationale: There may be people who'd like to know the entire chronology of books (both A and YA) while still being able to tell which ones are for YA. Someone might say, "if you want to tell them apart, go to the individual lists!" Well, my response is, the individual lists for A and YA books don't provide readily obtainable information on how the books from the two lists fit among each other in the timeline. By adding a simple notation to this merged list, we can hit two birds with one stone. If the only other objection is "this is too troublesome and not worth the trouble", well, I offer my services with pleasure (but only after my final exams are over =P). Oh, and we can add an (E) for the ebooks too. --Secretss 15:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

  • I thought of this too. By doing that we could delete the Timeline of adult novels and Timeline of young adult books and eliminate redundancy. — RedVix | 16:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC) (12:38 EST)
    • Oh, no that's not really my intention. I think there had been a discussion held about this, but I couldn't be bothered to read through to find out what was the consensus. I'm (or was, rather) for keeping both individual lists. I was planning on doing my Star Wars book-shopping with the adult book list. However, now I'm comparing the list with Wikipedia's Star Wars book list, and frankly, even with A, YA, and eBooks listed, Wikipedia's book list is still much easier on the eyes. I think I'll do my shopping with Wikipedia's list. Now I'm just neutral on whether Wookiepedia keeps the individual lists. Well, we'll see what happens.--Secretss 17:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Placement of The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi in the chronology

The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi has a timeline span of 44BBY to 10ABY.

The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader has a timeline span of 39BBY to 4ABY.

The placement of Obi-Wan in the chronology is in the middle of the book's timeline span (3.5ABY).

The placement of Darth Vader in the chronology is at the start of the book's timeline span (39BBY).

Inconsistencies bug me. I'm going to move Obi-Wan's book up to 44BBY in the chronology, in accordance to Darth Vader's book's placement.--Secretss 15:49, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

New version

I will replace the list with this one tonight. It will be easier to read and it contains more informations. We will also be able to delete the Timeline of adult novels and Timeline of young adult books since they are basically a copy of this one and it's really a pain to keep all three updated. With the colors of the new version, it's easy to focus on one category and ignore the rest. So if you have a last minute request, please tell me about it here. — RedVix | 17:34, 1 May 2009 (EST)

  • It's done. As I said, we should now delete the two other timelines. I will do that tomorrow if no one care. — RedVix | 04:05, 2 May 2009 (EST)
    • Thank you very much Silly Dan! — RedVix | 17:03, 4 May 2009 (EST)
      • I am colorblind and your color coding actually adds nothing for me and makes a printed list even harder to read when printed in B&W, or photocopied. Please consider a three letter abbreviation for the targeted reader age, added as a column or preceding the listing. Couldn't the text of an added three letter abbreviation be color coded and achieve the same ease of use for those with conventional color vision, while being more inclusive to the colorblind and more legible in a B&W printout? Remember old age causes loss in color vision naturally, so your awareness to the issue might be one to cultivate.*** Colorblind Designer

New Essential Chronology

Someone stuck the New Essential Chonology on this page. Does it belong here? If so, it should be fixed. He didn't seem to know how to use the table. 70.26.58.188 21:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

  • I'm going to remove it. — RedVix | 21:24, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Han Solo trilogy

The New Essential Chronology placed Han Solo and the Lost Legacy in 1-0 BBY, while Han Solo at Stars' End and Han Solo's Revenge were placed in 2-1 BBY. Moreover based on Rebel Dawn the Lost Legacy book ends in 0 BBY. What's the source for the 2 BBY date for all three books of this triolgy? Killik Brain 20:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

  • In the chronology in the first pages of all the books, it's 2 BBY. — RedVix | 15:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
    • the latest versions of those are screwed up like putting all the NJO in 25 ABY and POD in 1020 BBY... I'm sure the 2 BBY date is no longer correct for the end of the trilogy. --Killik Brain 16:41, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Position for the Han Solo Trilogy:
  • The Paradise Snare starts either 10 BBY or five months prior, "It had been ten years since Nebl had flown throught the Ylesian atmosphere...", and "... this was Ylesia. Han's fingers encountered permacrete. A landing field or road ... it hadn't been there ten years ago." - Chapter 14, Rebel Dawn. The whole tale seemed to be five months long, depending on which quote you believe, "A voice Han recognized, even though it had been nearly five months since he'd heard it..." - Chapter 15, encounter with Garris Shrike, The Paradise Snare. The second quote is below.
  • The Hutt Gambit started 5 BBY, "Five years ago, Han had spent almost six months on the steaming fungus infested world of Ylesia." -Chapter 1, The Hutt Gambit (I can't say if "nearly five months" and "almost six months" implies somewhere around five and a half months on Ylesia or not, since "nearly five" sounds like "under five"). It ends ten days before Rebel Dawn starts, "The sabacc game on Bespin would be held in ten days..." -Epilogue, The Hutt Gambit, so perhaps 3 BBY.
  • Rebel Dawn should start at 3 BBY because it starts seven years after The Paradise Snare. "Bria knew little about sabacc, but she knew Han Solo -- even after being separated from him for seven years now, she knew him." - Chapter 1, Rebel Dawn. It should end at 0 right before A New Hope, since it leads into the Cantina scene.
  • All of the events of The Adventures of Lando Calrissian occur during The Hutt Gambit. All of the events of The Han Solo Adventures occur during Rebel Dawn.Khavanon (talk) 23:59, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Not yet published books.

It should be good to have books that are not still ready in the shops marked. For example, with different letter colour. TarAldir 18:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Firstly, SIGN YOUR COMMENTS! And secondly, I tried out what you suggested. If people like it, then we can keep it. Additionally, I may have missed a few. DarthEinstein 16:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be more beneficial to do something besides changing the background though? In other words, for unreleased books you still keep the background for adult, young adult or ebook, but italicize or bold the font face so that it can be recognized as unreleased (w/o losing the information of what type of book it is). -- DarkJedi613 (Talk) 17:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree with DarkJedi613. Besides that, if should be good to have beside the title the scheduled release date.TarAldir 10:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

eBooks vs Short Stories

Most of the short stories can be downloaded from Hyperspace. Should they be added as eBooks for completeness? Of course I started adding them before I read the whole intro. I'll delete for now. :::Eniad (Boring conversation anyway.) 11:12, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

  • It's hard to separate an eBook and a short story but we usually call an "eBook" a story that was included in a book as an extra, the most recents being these Lost Tribe of the Sith crap. I see you added Judge's Call in the list but that one is a short story. If we add short stories in this list we need them all. There is dozens of them and they are hard to find since they are not all clearly indicated as short stories even here on Wookieepedia. — RedVix | 15:04, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

It has been indicated above that inclusion in a book alone is not enough to warrant its inclusion here. We need a better definition. We need one without all these exceptions.

eBook/Novella
A story shorter than a novel that has been published electronically, by itself, and contains it's own ISBN number.

That's the simplest definition I can come up with that includes all of the stories considered novellas and excludes the short stories.
—Eшσҡ $їтӈ Lōяƌ 20:05, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Inconsistencies in Novels, or mistakes in timeline? (Clone Wars period)

Have been reading my way through the clone wars era, between episodes II and III, according to this timeline, and am feeling like it's out of order. Instances such as The Clone Wars being listed as 22BBY, having Anakin as a full Jedi Knight with a new Padawan of his own, then the Cestus Deception, listed as 21BBY, and several books after The Clone Wars has Anakin as a Padawan. 76.115.146.152 02:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)Gink

  • The new cartoon and its ancillary materials has pretty throughly disrupted what was understood about the events of 22BBY-19BBY, and the people in charge of the chronology have stated they will not even attempt to sort the mess out until "The Clone Wars" has wrapped up. Dangerdan97 02:26, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Crosscurrent placement

Crosscurrent should be before Millennium Falcon, not among the Lost Tribe of the Sith.

Lost Tribe of the Sith

Book 4 needs to be placed in 4975 BBY, as the synopsis places it 25 years since they arrived on the planet (in 5000 BBY). I'd do it myself, but last time I edited this page I made a big mess :D DigiFluid 04:30, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

The Clone Wars

It just makes plain sense to put The Clone Wars books after Jedi Trial, yes the timeline in years is indeed screwed up by the new TV series, but that doesn't mean that the books chronologically should be scrwed up either; this is obviously the way to go, what do ya'll think? - Podracer1994, May 17 2010

Han Solo/Lando Calrissian Adventures and the Rebellion

In Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu, Lando wins the droid called Vuffi Raa in a game of sabacc. The droid pilots Lando's new ship, the Millenium Falcon. This takes place before Han and Lando meet in The Hutt Gambit. The timeline should go as follows:

The Paradise Snare,

Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu,

The Hutt Gambit,

Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon,

Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka,

Rebel Dawn

That being fact- Rebel Dawn takes place over the course of about 3 years, and should therefore be set concurrently with The Force Unleashed, The Han Solo Adventures, Death Troopers, Dark Forces: Soldier for the Empire, Death Star and the upcoming Adventures in Hyperspace series, as it takes place from 3-0 BBY.

--208.157.166.133 17:23, May 26, 2010 (UTC)Jedi Master Archivist

  • Most of this is correct, but with a few changes. "The Mindharp of Sharu" actually occurs during "The Hutt Gambit", not before. There's a period of a few months when Lando leaves and comes back with the droid Vuffi Raa and the items that he obtained at the end of "Mindharp". Also, the end of "The Hutt Gambit" has an epilogue occurring six months after the climax, which leads into "Rebel Dawn". The events of "The Flamewind of Oseon" and "The Starcave of ThonBoka" would have had to occur within those six months since "Rebel Dawn" starts almost immediately after the epilogue, and a very important plot point occurs in the first chapter of that book which could only have happened after the last two Lando Calrissian books. Whatever the correct years are, "The Hutt Gambit" should envelope the time frame of all three of the Lando Calrissian books.Khavanon (talk) 00:03, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

Pantheon and Secrets

What's the source for Lost Tribe of the Sith: Pantheon and Lost Tribe of the Sith: Secrets being dated at c. 3650 BBY? Imperators II 21:08, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Crosscurrent

There are some books, like The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi, whose timeline starts on some year and ends on a very long year. On that cases, the book is put on the earlier year (The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi is put on 44 BBY instead of 9 ABY). ¿So why, if Crosscurrent talks about Great Hyperspace War (5,000 BBY) and Legacy era (41 ABY), it is put on 41 ABY instead of 5,000 BBY? A thing: I haven't read the book, I'm just talking about what I have read on the articles.----Skenar Jedi Order (Talk) 01:54, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

  • I would imagine because its primary setting is 41 ABY, at least that is the impression I am getting and I haven't read it either. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 04:28, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Are all these game books offering anything to the saga? It seems to me that they aren't really novels, merely guides to playing an RPG. I thought this was a list of novels.--Nickowar 00:47, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Confusing colors

Some of the colors are confusing. On the Timeline of media, blue is for novels, and red is for not yet published. Here, red is for kids novels, blue is for not yet published and green is for adult novels. To me, it would seem more intuitively consistent to make blue adult novels, green kids novels and red not yet printed. Are there any objections to this?
—Eшσҡ $їтӈ Lōяƌ 18:37, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

  • I'm gonna go ahead and change it. In the long run, it will be easier. —Eшσҡ $їтӈ Lōяƌ 02:58, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Colorblind usability

I noticed above that a colorblind person made an unsigned comment. As I was working with colors, I began to think about it more. These colors probably make it hard for them to read the page (I'm not colorblind, so I don't know). I have an idea, and I have a feeling you're not gonna like it. Colorblindness affects 8% of males. You can read more about it here. I'm not suggesting that we remove the colors from this page. A rather out of place yet fitting quote would be "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." We should keep the colors on this page, but perhaps we could create a second page mirroring this one but with the colors removed. I know it might be a pain to do, but shouldn't we make the site friendly for everyone who enjoys Star Wars? If nothing else, it will be a more printer-friendly page.
—Eшσҡ $їтӈ Lōяƌ 03:45, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

  • Making Wookieepedia more accessible in general is an excellent idea. You're definitely onto something here. Menkooroo 01:43, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
  • I am colourblind cannot see the difference between the colours used for Adult novel and Short story collection. The other colours are ok for my type of colourblindness, but it makes it impossible for me to scan down the list and pick out all the Adult Novels which is what I want to do. I am an moderate Protanope which affects 1% of the male population. There are more common types of colourblindness but I don't know how they get on with the colours used on the page.--Ajwalt (talk) 11:33, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Missing Books?

Are there any books missing from the list? DarthRevan1173 (talk) 05:19, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Episode I Adventure Game Books

Do the Game books belong in this list? This list seems to me to be a collection of books to tell the story of Star Wars. Aren't the game books listed here guidelines for an RPG? Nickowar (talk) 00:55, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Move Death Star and Shadow Games to Rebellion Era

These two novels should be moved to Rebellion Era, as that's how Del Rey defines them. --Muju (talk) 18:36, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

There is some ambiguity about the chronology of Shadow Games. On the one hand Del Rey says it is set around the time of 2 BBY; on the other hand, the book (and Del Rey) labels the time setting as being during the Rebellion Era. Additionally, the timeline that is shown with the book shows it being after Death Star and before ANH. So, obviously, there is an error somewhere. Hopefully reading the book will shed some light on the issue, so if someone who has read the book could enlighten us, that would be great. --Muju (talk) 17:32, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Game Books

Do we really need the game books of the Star Wars adventures in the timeline? All they tell you is how to play the game that you got with them when you signed up for them. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 03:17, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

  • They are adaptations of the storyline from the corresponding novel. They tell the story and have canonical elements all their own, so they should stay like any other book. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 03:25, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

New Section

The Addition of the Gamebook Category.

All of the books that have been changed from childrens books to gamebooks have been for a reason. The Star Wars missions, Episode I adventures and Star Wars Adventures sets are game books. The 2 part books: Episode I Adventures and Star Wars Adventures require the second book to complete the story. The first part of the first book is a story then prompts the reader to go to the second book to complete the game and then return to the first book.ExarKunLives (talk) 04:39, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Lost Tribe of the Sith: Pandemonium edit war

I don't really care all that much whether or not it is included in this timeline, but I've seen a ton of edits and reverts on this and it's kind of annoying to watch. Is it really worth the hassle to keep it out when so many new users will add it because the other 8 parts of the series are in this timeline?

Pandemonium is a unique case in the canon. It's a novella, so it's not fully a novel nor a short story. It's the final part of a fairly long and popular series, the rest of which are all included in this timeline. It's the only e-book/novella length story I can think of, off the top of my head, that wasn't published independently anywhere else (to date).

I concede that Pandemonium technically does not belong here, not being an adult novel, young adult book or ebook, but doesn't it belong in spirit? Even Category:Ebooks includes Category:Lost Tribe of the Sith series and thus Pandemonium. Can't we just let it slide? Tainb'ocu'chulainn (talk) 12:09, August 9, 2013‎ (UTC)

Check the E-books category page again. Pandemonium is not included there. Only the Series--ExarKunLives (talk) 20:14, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

Ummm...the series is a sub-category of Ebooks, which means that all the books in the series are contained within the Ebooks category. None of the other books in the series are listed explicitly, so omitting Pandemonium because it isn't listed at the top level of the Ebooks category is a poor rationale. Tainb'ocu'chulainn (talk) 15:45, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

  • Just as a heads up, you can link to categories without including the page in the category by adding a : before Category, like [[:Category:Ebooks]] The same goes for the File namespace. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 15:48, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Not all of The Lost Tribe of the Sith are eBooks. The Category has been removed and the individual eBooks have been added to the eBooks category.ExarKunLives (talk) 16:55, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

The New Jedi Order is a similar series. It has both eBook Publications and non-eBook publications. If the category of Lost Tribe of the Sith belongs in the eBooks section. Then so does the NJO. ExarKunLives (talk) 17:04, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not going to argue for either of those series to be in Category:Ebooks. I was just noting that as the category was previously, Pandemonium was included. That wasn't even a major part of my argument anyways, just a tag-on. All I'm saying is that Pandemonium is a book in a general sense and may as well be added to this timeline. Tainb'ocu'chulainn (talk) 19:18, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Crisis of Faith

Should this not be added to the list: Crisis of Faith?

Crisis of Faith is a novella that was included in the Anniversary Edition of Heir to the Empire. Novellas are short stories not books. Only if it were released as an eBook would it belong on this list. As much as the lot of us want, it hasn't happened yet.--ExarKunLives (talk) 18:54, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Essential Reader's Companion and biographical novels

I took the liberty to do some modifications so this timeline agrees more with the timeline established on the Essential Reader's Companion (ERC). My question is where should we put the biographical novels (The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi, The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader and A New Hope: The Life of Luke Skywalker)? Most of these novels are flashbacks. The Wrath of Darth Maul is listed on the timeline as it's listed on the ERC (21 BBY), with the note "(51 BBY–32 BBY in flashbacks)" just like the ERC. I personally think this should be done with the other 3 books. --Ronnie Franco (talk) 17:03, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

  • In the Timeline of media, biographical novels are usually placed at their first entrance to the timeline, especially when there is a 'present day' introduction followed by a flashback. In the Journal Hero for Hire, there is a present day narrative interspersed with flashbacks, so it is placed in 4 ABY instead of 0 BBY. Tainb'ocu'chulainn (talk) 02:50, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Crisis of Faith has to be in timeline

I agree with ExarKunLives. The Crisis of Faith novella should be included. It certainly is not an e-book since it was released in Heir to the Empire: The 20th Anniversary Edition. But since other novellas like Darth Maul: Saboteur, Fool's Bargain, The Hive, Winner Lose All, etc. are included I believe this one should be in there, too. --Ronnie Franco (talk) 17:23, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

  • It is in the article. It's between Solo Command and Courtship of Princess Leia. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 17:35, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • That was me. I just put it there. :) --Ronnie Franco (talk) 18:17, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
    • ExarKunLives was actually disagreeing with someone who did not sign their post. ExarKunLives espouses a very strict criteria of what belongs on this list, namely, only works that are published independently in print or as eBooks. All the ones you mentioned were published separately at some point. When Crisis of Faith is, he will add it. I happen to disagree with that view based on the spirit of the work, but it's not worth the fight. I just spend most of my time at the Timeline of media. Tainb'ocu'chulainn (talk) 02:58, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

The New Disney Canon

SO do we start a new page? Or just create a new section on this page? Either way the 4 new books announced don't belong mixed into this existing timeline.--ExarKunLives (talk) 02:45, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

  • I think a new section would be enough, at least on this Timeline of books. But since Disney is also gonna release videogames and comics through Marvel, a new Timeline of media page should be created. The Heir to the Jedi novel is a special case I think since it is part of the Empire and Rebellion series where the first two novels are EU (Legends) while this last one (Heir) is Disney canon.--Ronnie Franco (talk) 02:03, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Heir of the Jedi is no longer part of the Empire and Rebellion Series. Per Del-Rey's Star Wars Books Facebook page.--ExarKunLives (talk) 03:57, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Change name?

Shouldn't we change the name of this list to Timeline of Legends books or something and make a canon Timeline of books page? DarthRevan1173 Revan Headshot (Long live Lord Revan) 00:03, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Pandemonium

Pandemonium is included in the Lost Tribe of the Sith Collected Stories book. You don't see the individual stories of the Tales books listed here. That is for the Timeline of Media and Timeline of Short Stories.--ExarKunLives (talk) 18:58, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Canceled section?

Shouldn't this list have a canceled section that lists the known canceled books kind of like the sections that are feature in the Legends short stories and Legends video games timelines? DarthRevan1173 RevanTOR001 (Long live Lord Revan) 23:25, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

Incomplete?

Why is this list incomplete? If we know that books are missing we also might know the books, right? So who can tell me which Star Wars Legends book is not in this list? -- Lorenzoni (talk) 19:31, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

  • Many young reader books, including but not limited to The Clone Wars series, are missing from the list. However, there's really no policy on which book should belong here and which should not, and people haven't bothered to include stuff like Ready, Set, Podrace!, since that would make the list unwieldy, though technically these books should be included here. QuiGonJinn Senate seal(Talk) 19:52, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
    • So maybe books like this shouldn't be marked as "Young adult novel" because that's not what they are. "Young adult novels" are books like Jedi Apprentice or Boba Fett (books). So if we don't call them "Young adult novels" they don't fit into the list and we solved the problem, right? -- Lorenzoni (talk) 20:04, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Date for Fate of the Jedi: Backlash

At present, the chart gives the paperback publication date, not the original hardcover pub date, as given in the article--136.24.27.120 07:59, May 17, 2017 (UTC)

Canon Timeline vs. Timeline of Legends

Hi, I'm new to the entire Star Wars franchise, and though I have watched the movies, I always do better with printed word and was trying to find the best chronological order to read everything in. But why are the movie novelizations included in the Timeline of Legends and not in the canon timeline? I only find the Young Reader versions within the canonical timeline. As I understand it, Legends is for books that are within the Expanded Universe but may not be canon? --Lady Castle, 9-5-2017 7:56AM

  • Hello! I copied Brandon's words here from here so I hope this helps you out!

'It's not so much that the books themselves are Legends. It's that, for the purposes of documenting information on Wookieepedia, we've put them into the Legends category. The official stance is that they are canon where they align with the films. Our understanding is that this means that only the parts that line up exactly with the films should be treated as canon. Any material original to the books would therefore not be treated as canon. So, until such time as we're told that the book-original material can be counted as canon, we don't include them in Canon pages. Note that this only applies to the novelizations of Episodes I-VI; book-original material in The Force Awakens novelization can be counted as canon so long as it's not contradicted anywhere else.' --Lewisr (talk) 12:05, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

hide button

i don't really understand how the source editing works, so i thought i would just point it out in hopes someone will know how to change it. the hide buttons aren't working. i've tried it on this page in 2 browsers now, and the hide buttons for each book format doesn't work. it works on the other timeline pages, just not here

64.229.41.80 23:11, March 10, 2020 (UTC)

GOD YES SOMEONE PLEASE FIX THIS!

151.225.231.53 09:04, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

hide button still not working

Ok, its been a little over a year now, and yet the hide button on this page still isn't working. I've tried looking at the code to the canon version of the page and tried spotting the differences between the articles, then inserting what was there and not here into the code here, but it isn't working. Like the guy who originally said this, i'm not good at editing source code, but if someone can find the difference or some other way to fix this page, that would be really helpful. Thanks!