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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Keep. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:45, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Hostage (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

As an article, this is nothing more than a dictionary entry, and one not even written as an article. As a disambiguation page, I don't really see the point. It's nothing more than a list of articles that happen have "hostage" in the title. We don't have disambiguation pages for any random word that doesn't otherwise merit an article, and thus, if this isn't article-worthy, it's not disambiguation-worthy either. ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:25, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

Delete

ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:25, August 14, 2015 (UTC)
  1. Imperators II(Talk) 20:28, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

Keep

  1. "if this isn't article-worthy, it's not disambiguation-worthy either" - that's really bad logic, since disambig pages are not encyclopedic pages. This is a worthy disambig page, IMO. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 20:28, August 14, 2015 (UTC)
  2. I hate having to go this way, but in this case it's justified. This isn't an article, it's a road sign. The "content" at the top is just for convenience. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 22:41, August 15, 2015 (UTC)
  3. Exiled Jedi (talk) 22:47, August 15, 2015 (UTC)
  4. Per Brandon. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:29, August 15, 2015 (UTC)
  5. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 23:39, August 15, 2015 (UTC)
  6. Manoof (talk) 23:53, August 15, 2015 (UTC)
  7. I've been persuaded, though I still feel like it would be more relevant if there were titles that actually started with "hostage," like The New Jedi Order: Hostage or something, rather than just any random article that happens to have word "hostage" in it. ProfessorTofty (talk) 00:14, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
    • You are correct, only articles that have "hostage" in the title (or an alternate name uses hostage in it) should be in the disambig. Trip391 (talk) 02:49, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
  8. As a disambig for hostage. Trip391 (talk) 02:49, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
  9. Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 09:31, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
  10. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 18:01, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
  11. Very definitely going to have to keep. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 19:38, August 18, 2015 (UTC)
  12. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 23:25, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

  • On a sidenote, if the article is just a disambiguation, then should it be linked to in articles like Holshef? ProfessorTofty (talk) 00:14, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
    • That's not really necessary, no. If it's something like the Senate hostage crisis, "taken hostage" should simply link to the event itself, so [[Senate hostage crisis/Legends|taken hostage]]. Trip391 (talk) 02:49, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
      • To elaborate on Trip's comment: from my understanding, disambig pages shouldn't be linked to in articles, the article should link directly to the relevant article. For example, if talking about Black hair, black should link to the Color article, rather than the Black disambig page. The disambig page is there for people when they search for an article. If I search Black, it brings up the disambig page. That page can then direct me to the color article, if that is what I am looking for, or any other article relating to black, such as the Black Fleet crisis... Manoof (talk) 23:32, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
        • Noted. Purged existing links to "hostage" in article pages. ProfessorTofty (talk) 18:15, August 18, 2015 (UTC)