Forum:CT:Sourcing Audio Description and Subtitles

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The result of the debate was Support full proposal. Imperators II(Talk) 06:37, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Quick CT to continue from this Senate Hall.

I propose that we add to Wookieepedia:Sourcing#Formatting the following passage:

In references to information found in the subtitles or audio description of a film or a television series (examples: A name (Darrb or Trinitite), gender (Unidentified Imperial warlord (commander) or Unidentified Twi'lek male server), pronouns (Elk), translations (Bib Fortuna), identifying information (Anza), or a language spoken (Poobian)), {{Subtitles|source}} or {{AD|source}} respectively will be included.

Examples: 

<ref name="Subtitles">{{Resistance|Breakout}} {{Subtitles|Disney+}}</ref>

<ref name="Audio">{{TCW|Rising Malevolence|Rising ''Malevolence''}} {{AD|Netflix, Inc.|Netflix}}</ref>

Voting will be for the subtitle and audio description parts separately. If one passes and another doesn't, the passage will be edited appropriately, removing the related wording and examples.

Vote 1 (subtitles)

Support

  1. NBDani TeamFireballLogo-Collider(they/them)Yeager's Repairs 17:49, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  2. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 17:59, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  3. bet Fan26 (Talk) 17:59, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  4. Imperators II(Talk) 18:05, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  5. —spookywillowwtalk 18:07, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  6. yes. Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 18:12, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  7. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  8. OOM 224 (he/him) 18:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  9. Lewisr (talk) 18:30, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  10. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 00:16, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
  11. Editoronthewiki (talk) 00:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
  12. Jarhead002 (talk) (he/him) 21:50, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
  13. Loqiical (talk) 23:57, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
  14. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 00:06, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
  15. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 04:21, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
  16. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 19:22, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
  17. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 19:27, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
  18. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 14:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

Vote 2 (audio description)

Support

  1. NBDani TeamFireballLogo-Collider(they/them)Yeager's Repairs 17:49, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  2. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 17:59, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  3. we ball, fam Fan26 (Talk) 17:59, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  4. Imperators II(Talk) 18:05, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  5. —spookywillowwtalk 18:07, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  6. yes. Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 18:12, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  7. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  8. OOM 224 (he/him) 18:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  9. Lewisr (talk) 18:30, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  10. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 00:16, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
  11. Editoronthewiki (talk) 14:37, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
  12. Jarhead002 (talk) (he/him) 21:50, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
  13. Loqiical (talk) 23:57, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
  14. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 00:06, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
  15. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 04:21, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
  16. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 19:22, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
  17. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 19:27, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
  18. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 14:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

Discussion

  • As far as I know, Disney+ is the only source for audio descriptions other than the no longer available Netflix AD for Star Wars: The Clone Wars. If another source becomes available I think we should pursue documenting the source of the AD in the template, similar to subtitles. The reason we should specify subtitle sources is because DVDs can differ from Disney+. Example: A quote from "Cloak of Darkness" is formatted as "Tell us what we want to know right now, or I will gut like a Rokaria'n dirt fish!" on Star Wars: The Clone Wars Seasons 1-5 Collector's Edition but as "Tell us what we want to know right now, or I will gut you like a Rokarian dirt fish." on Disney+. NBDani TeamFireballLogo-Collider(they/them)Yeager's Repairs 17:49, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
    • I think it should already be part of the template. While the Netflix AD is now lost, it was found in time for Anza Editoronthewiki (talk) 01:00, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
  • If others come up with status examples to replace the nonstatus examples given, that would be welcomed. NBDani TeamFireballLogo-Collider(they/them)Yeager's Repairs 17:56, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
    • Elk is a quite recent GA which cites the audio description for pronouns Fan26 (Talk) 18:00, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
  • Worth making the (subtitles from Disney+) into its own template?—spookywillowwtalk 18:07, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
    • I thought about pursuing that prior to the CT but I knew there was some pushback on Subtitles. So I didn't want to waste a coder's time for something that might not go through. But if it goes through, I think it'd be an easy CT to replace that bit with a template (if necessary). NBDani TeamFireballLogo-Collider(they/them)Yeager's Repairs 18:12, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
      • The template would take a few seconds to make ({{C|Subtitles from {{{1}}}}}) so probably makes sense to do that instead. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)