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The result of the debate was oppose proposal. Tommy-Macaroni 19:43, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

My proposal is that any content related to the "Filoniverse" (that is, Star Wars: The Clone Wars for the most part) is to be removed from Legends articles. If a Legends article contains information that is purely from that media, the article is to be deleted as it already contains the same information as its Canon counterpart. I believe it is quite clear that TCW does not fit within the Legends continuity (especially when paired with previous Legends versions of the same story. See: Star Wars: Clone Wars for example) and is purely within the new Canon timeline.

Support

  1. As author. Potsk (talk) 13:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
    I agree. SheevPalpatinee (talk) 17:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC) (Vote struck, reason: Per policy: General rules, item 3 -- Tommy-Macaroni 18:49, 5 July 2021 (UTC))
    Goodmind (talk) 18:45, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Sure, it's a mess of contradictions, but just like the six films, TCW is as much a part of Legends as it is a part of Canon, and we cannot simply change that. Wookieepedia must reflect how continuity is/was treated by Lucasfilm, and in this case, TCW is part of the Legends continuity. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 13:56, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  2. The fact that the Fate of the Jedi series and other titles build on such material is more than enough reason keep it as it is. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 13:57, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  3. The Legends announcement made it clear TCW is Legends: "[The films and The Clone Wars are] the immovable objects of Star Wars history, the characters and events to which all other tales must align." There's really no room for debate on this. Tommy-Macaroni 13:59, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  4. Yeah, as much as I despise Filoni's absolute disrespect for other creators' work, the series was more than just him, and it's a part of both continuities. Stuff from TCW has been extensively referenced by non-TCW Legends content. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 14:50, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  5. Erebus Chronus (Talk) 14:58, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  6. Per the others above. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 15:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  7. The Clone Wars began on August 14, 2008, but the Canon/Legends switch wasn't until April 25, 2014. Also, how would we treat Legends tie-ins to The Clone Wars? Would they be Canon despite coming out years before the switch? Would they be Legends, even if the rest of the show isn't? Legends has plenty of contradictions, but The Clone Wars is still a part of that continuity. Ramsay Sanders (talk) 15:05, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  8. AmazinglyCool CIS roundel (talk) 15:09, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  9. It is clearly stated that The Clone Wars is both canon and Legends by officials at Lucasfilm. Also Filoniverse isn't a thing and Wookieepedia only follows official sources.Moingx (talk) 15:24, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  10. You don't get to decide that Lucasfilm is wrong about what is and isn't part of the Legends continuity. VergenceScatter (talk) 16:02, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  11. SilverSunbird (talk) 16:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  12. Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:22, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  13. Per all above. 01miki10 Open comlink 16:24, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  14. JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 16:31, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  15. Immi Thrax RainbowRebellion2 (talk) 16:49, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  16. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 18:43, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  17. Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 18:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  18. This proposal feels really anachronistic for 2021. Imperators II(Talk) 19:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  19. Wok142 (talk) 19:37, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  20. Trust me, I'd love or it to not be Legends, but I understand that I don't get to make that call. MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 20:36, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  21. Green Tentacle (Talk) 21:25, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  22. 1358 (Talk) 21:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  23. Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 22:20, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  24. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 22:24, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  25. From Legends-only novels like Wild Space and comics like Clone Wars Adventures; to meaty ties to other Legends story threads in reference books like The Essential Atlas, Galaxy at War, and The Essential Guide to Warfare; to significant references in chronologically-later works like in the Fate of the Jedi series; there are simply no sensible interpretations of Legends that can outright omit The Clone Wars TV series from its corpus. jSarek (talk) 23:09, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  26. Per VergenceScatter and Fred. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 23:26, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
  27. Yeah, this really is not a good idea. —Tomotron Revanchist Sith (Star Forge) 12:19, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
  28. As much as it's in line with my own headcanon this proposal shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what our purpose on this wiki is. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 13:57, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
  29. It's officially part of Star Wars Legends as stated by Lucasfilm. Our job is simply to document. --Vitus InfinitusTalk 16:58, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
  30. This is not how this works. We document, period. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 17:11, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
  31. IFYLOFD (Talk) 17:15, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
  32. JediVahGilns Yoda cartoon (talk) 17:32, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
  33. Cire Yeldarb 20:54, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
  34. It would certainly be nice to isolate TCW from Legends, but it just isn't possible. DwartiiDelver (talk) 03:31, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
    FNines (talk) 03:42, 7 July 2021 (UTC) (Vote struck, reason: Per policy: Additional provisions, item 1 -- DarthRuiz30 (talk) 03:55, 7 July 2021 (UTC))

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