Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting 60

That's right. Your eyes aren't deceiving you. It is time for Inqmoot 60. It's been like four fucking months quite a while since the last one, so there'll probably be a lot of funny topics to discuss and we'll be sitting there until January 14 or so. The meeting will take place on midnight UTC on January 12, which means 7 PM ET. Make sure you have enough Pepsi, because this meeting will be a killer. See you there, or see you in the notes section below.

The Agenda

Kesin

Old articles.

• Zuckuss
• Bertroff Hissa
  • Updated. Cade Calrayn 17:33, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
• Aleema Keto
  • Updated. Cade Calrayn 17:33, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
• Gand
• Pzob
  • Fixed. Cade Calrayn 17:33, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
• Duel on Tatooine (Imperial Period)
  • Fixed. Cade Calrayn 17:33, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
• 4-LOM
  • Fixed. Cade Calrayn 17:33, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
• Mirta Gev
• Empirical
  • Fixed. Cade Calrayn 17:33, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
• Mighella
  • Fixed. Dang, when did I do all of these? Cade Calrayn 17:33, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
• CC-1004
  • Updated. CC7567 ^(talk) 23:27, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
• Bevel Lemelisk
  • The original issue in respect of which this article was probed appears to have been resolved. The article has undergone significant recent updates, by both myself and Protectorate, but to be honest, given that the bulk of the article was written a long time ago, it is not really up to current standards of quality. If the Inq choose to take this down the Redux route, I would be happy to address any objections raised. --Jinzler (talk) 13:16, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
    • I also added his height, hair and eye color to his P&T, ending all infobox-exclusive stats. The article's updating by Jinzler seems to have brought more context in areas, but I have not looked at the whole article, and will leave it to the Inq to decide to spare or redux this article. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 16:36, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
      • As I've similarly noted below in regards to Sienar, I believe this article should have its main image replaced with the more realistic one provided in the Death Star manual (pg 17). Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:19, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
        • Okay, cool. I'm not going to have access to a decent scanner for a few weeks and I request that the Inq consider sparing the article for now, as I do plan to make sure that the image gets uploaded soon one way or another. --Jinzler (talk) 18:34, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
• Agents of Chaos Duology
• Into the Great Unknown
• Or Die Trying
• Legacy 23: Loyalties, Part 1
  • All four of these OOU articles have been taken care of. TOTJ still needs a lot of work, though. Menkooroo (talk) 02:02, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
• Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi

Ommis

New articles. Expand as needed. Maintenance page for easy access.

• Derek Klivian—I have found out that the following text was fanon that is not actually in any of the sources it is allegedly cited to: "Klivian and Ommis ejected in time to survive the crash, and were able, despite Klivian's earlier predictions, to make it back to the evacuation staging point.[3][20][21]" Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 17:13, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
• Dominic Raynor—needs update. Cade Calrayn 17:39, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
• Calo Nord—update.
  • Protectorate handled it.
• Raith Sienar—update.
  • Updated --Jinzler (talk) 14:34, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
    • As the one who added the update tag, I think this article should also have its main image replaced with the more realistic one provided within the new Death Star manual (pg 17). Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:18, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
    • This is the image, actually, but it would need to be uploaded at higher quality. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:34, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
      • No worries. As I've stated above, I should have access to a decent scanner in a few weeks if no-one else uploads a better image before then, so feel free to probe away for now. --Jinzler (talk) 18:37, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
• Ackmena—update.
• Imperial Hyperspace Security Net—update.
• Ecclessis Figg—update.
• Cracian thumper—update. Cade Calrayn 18:06, January 7, 2014 (UTC)
• Red Nebula species—update required.
• Zsinj—is update done?
  • Update is not done, due to some pretty unique extenuating circumstances. It will be done soon, but if the rest of the Inq wants to go ahead and probe the fat man, no worries. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 23:26, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
• Mantis Syndicate—update required.
• Sriluur—update required.
• Bidlo Kwerve—{{Fact}} tag.
• Battle of Kemplex IX—two {{Fact}} tags. (Also, article could benefit from a general copy-edit for areas like reloading the infobox.)
• Battle of Koros Major—is this event's name official? The intro seems to present it as a conjectural title (in which case {{Conjecture}} should be used), but the rest of the article is a bit murky in that regard.
• Gaeriel Captison—infobox image should ideally use a cropped headshot instead of a full body image. Also, succession boxes need to specify "before-years" and "after-years." (Not probe-worthy, but article might benefit from a copy-edit to bring it up to current standards.)
• Carth Onasi—minor {{Fact}} tag.
  • Sourced. Cade Calrayn 23:28, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
• Amanoa—"before-years" and "after-years" in succession box need to be filled.
• Stranglethorn crisis—requires sourcing throughout the article.
• Chertyl Ruluwoor (Human)—requires full sourcing.
• Lumiya—"before-years" and "after-years" in succession boxes need to be filled.
• Freedon Nadd—"before-years" and "after-years" in succession boxes need to be filled. CC7567 ^(talk) 22:16, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Moustache

Discussion items here. Expand as needed.

• Wedge Antilles – (This is down here instead of in the section above because it does not need probing; I just want to make the Inq aware of why I'm handling it the way I am.) I have now updated this article (sorry for the delay; I blame the lack of any Inqmoots giving me a deadline :P), but issue 12 has introduced an entirely new story about Rogue Squadron's origins. If you go the the section "Rooting out a spy" and click edit, you can see the new story commented out. Given the amount of material that has potentially been revised here and how heavily this article deals with the early days of Rogue Squadron, I don't feel comfortable performing major surgery on this article until we have more details about what stories can be salvaged and what ones become non-canon. It is possible, though I feel it unlikely, that the comic series itself will resolve the discrepancy, but we'll have to wait until March at the very least for that; otherwise, we'll have to start asking questions to Chee and the new Story Group. Until we get the needed information, I am leaving the new origin story commented out to prevent the article from being self-contradictory.
• The RFAN page—it's not doing any harm, but it hasn't seen activity from any Inqs since April of last year. Do we still want it around if no one's going to use it? CC7567 ^(talk) 22:16, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Attendance

This is relevant to my interests

1. 1358 ^(Talk) 00:18, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
2. BOUT TIME BRO Cade Calrayn 00:18, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
3. Moustache we can believe in. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:20, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
4. HOLY FUCK HE ACTUALLY DID IT IFYLOFD ^{(Enter the Floydome)} 00:23, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
5. CC7567 ^(talk) 03:21, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

How about no

1. JangFett ^(Talk) 16:46, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
2. Unlikely to be back in time. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 18:21, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Notes.txt

1. KESIN 2014
   • Keep: Zuckuss, Bertroff Hissa, Aleema Keto, Pzob, Duel on Tatooine (Imperial Period), 4-LOM, Mirta Gev (Please give it a copy-edit), Empirical, Mighella, CC-1004, Agents of Chaos Duology, Into the Great Unknown, Star Wars: Legacy 23: Loyalties, Part 1, Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi, Or Die Trying
   • Kill: Gand, Bevel Lemelisk
   • Probe: Derek Klivian, Dominic Raynor JangFett ^(Talk) 16:46, January 3, 2014 (UTC)
2. Green Tentacle:
   • Keep: Zuckuss, Bertroff Hissa, Aleema Keto, Pzob, Duel on Tatooine, 4-LOM, Mirta Gev (or redux since it's a big update), Empirical, Mighella, CC-1004, Bevel Lemelisk (unless there's some specific reason to do otherwise), Agents of Chaos, Into the Great Unknown, Or Die Trying, Legacy 23
   • Extend: Gand (assuming it's still being worked on, most seems to have been done and the last quest was only added to the update list a few days ago), Tales of the Jedi
   • Probe: Derek Klivian (he did survive and join up with the others, but the wording and sourcing for that bit could be improved), Ackmena, Imperial Hyperspace Security Net, Ecclessis Figg, Cracian thumper
   • Spare: Dominic Raynor, Calo Nord, Raith Sienar Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 18:21, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Minutes

Attendance

Present

• Cade Calrayn
• Cavalier One
• CC7567
• Darth Culator
• Ifindyourlackoffaithdisturbing
• Toprawa and Ralltiir
• Xd1358

Left notes

• JangFett
• Green tentacle

Absent

• Grunny

Article status

FA status kept

• Zuckuss
• Bertroff Hissa
• Aleema Keto
• Pzob
• Duel on Tatooine (Imperial Period)
• 4-LOM
• Mirta Gev
• Empirical
• Mighella
• CC-1004
• Bevel Lemelisk
• Agents of Chaos Duology
• Into the Great Unknown
• Or Die Trying
• Legacy 23

Extended

• Gand
• Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi (per #OperationSaveTOTJ)

Probed articles

• Derek Klivian
• Ackmena
• Imperial Hyperspace Security Net
• Ecclessis Figg
• Cracian thumper
• Mantis Syndicate
• Sriluur
• Bidlo Kwerve
• Battle of Kemplex IX
• Battle of Koros Major
• Gaeriel Captison
• Lumiya
• Freedon Nadd
• Chertyl Ruluwoor (Human)
• Stranglethorn crisis

Discussion log

• Wedge Antilles—further discussion will be forestalled until the arc/series is over and more information is available.
• No decision on the subject of the RFAN page.

Clerical stuff

• Three probe jokes were made, but with the pickings as they were, none were particularly good.
• Cade, the poor bastard, is stuck with both paperwork and scheduling.

Log

• Log