Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting 141

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Inquisitorius Meeting 141 will be held at 6:00 PM UTC / 2:00 PM ET on August 28, 2022. Please leave notes if you are unable to attend.

Agenda

Old items

• Biscuit Baron (diff • review)
• Jaller Obrim (diff • review)
• Jay (diff • review)
• Lamproid/Legends (diff • review)
• Lensi (diff • review)
• Mar Barezz (diff • review)
• Mar Tuuk/Legends (diff • review) — Extended at Meeting 140
• Magaloof/Legends (diff • review) — Extended at Meeting 140
• Myhr Rho (diff • review) — Extended at Meeting 140
• Nar Hida/Legends (diff • review) — Extended at Meeting 140
• Pzob/Legends (diff • review)
• Raygar (diff • review)
• Scimitar assault wing (diff • review) — Extended at Meeting 140
• Slyther Bushforb (diff • review) — Extended at Meeting 140
• Tay Vanis (diff • review)
• Theol Drost (diff • review)
• Tian Chyler (diff • review) — Extended at Meeting 140
• Tyvokka/Legends (diff • review)
• Valara Saar (diff • review)

New items

Expand as needed. See Maintenance bin.

• L'ulo L'ampar — In the 4 years since attaining status, this article has significantly increased in size thanks to newer sources, gaining ~23,000 bytes. Pending update aside, I'm recommending a Redux. UberSoldat93 (talk) 19:44, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
• Hugo Bartyn
  • I'm not familiar with the source, but I don't think that Star Wars Gamer specifies that Bartyn was born circa 583 BBY and died circa 499 BBY.
  • BTS doesn't contain references.
  • Some paragraphs could be merged.
  • Images could be added.
  • Missing an equipment section. Samonic 21:41, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
• Cabbel/Legends
  • I have decided to put this myself on the Inq meeting page, as on Discord it's been brought up that this should be a ducktest case of Cabbel on the left. My own thought was the CCG calling Cabbel a recent graduate of the Officer's Candidate School in 3 ABY would seem to make it more recent than 1 BBY. It's been brought up that recent is a relative term that could easily be interpreted as 4 years ago, based on the reader's point of view. At the end of the day, it is 4 years chronologically prior that we're talking about in-universe. I would say that a 3 ABY case of reused footage on the Tyrant would be a more obvious duck test scenario. Note also that Star Wars: Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast has Cabbel's model used for Imperial officer NPCs in the story mode. In-universe, this means there's literally confirmation that there's more than one Imperial officer who has that exact appearance... Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 19:28, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
    • If the Inq decision is that the X-Wing case is a duck test situation of Cabbel, with "recent" being quite possibly 4+ years ago, I present this rewrite. 21:27, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
      • From talking to more than one other user, rewrote the contents of the aforementioned sandbox link. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 04:08, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
        • Officer's Candidate School is a linking status article which I made a related change to, FWIW. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 04:20, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
          • Oh, in case not obvious, rewrote article on 11th. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 16:15, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
            • Seeing Imperators being unsure, for clarity, this article is in the final state, from my reevaluating the X-wing footage. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 16:26, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
• Celly Organa/Legends
  • The link to Celly Organa's husband has been removed per the corresponding Trash compactor entry, but it appears that the textual content of this article will also need to be amended accordingly. Imperators II^(Talk) 07:20, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
    • That should do the trick. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 16:03, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Seeing lots of fluff not really relevant to this article (e.g. Too much context for Alderaan, Breha's original surname, House of Organa origins)
  • Let's see a proper date note for the death date, and the HoloNet date.
  • It looks like the HoloNet entry needs an Mo tag next to it, it doesn't really count as an appearance.
  • Infobox-exclusive information.
  • Would like to see paragraph breaks and an Equipment section.
  • Missing comic publication date.
  • Check audiobooks.
  • Missing Mediacat. UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:34, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
• Comet (clone trooper)/Legends
  • Infobox bulleted list should only go one bullet deep.
  • Clone traits needs a note.
  • Improperly-sourced dates.
  • Images: Needs more illustration; digitize comic-book image.
  • BTS: Missing publication dates; redundant information. UberSoldat93 (talk) 13:54, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
• Dani
  • Infobox-exclusive information
  • Images: Digitize comic book images; needs more illustration; enlarge existing thumbnails.
  • How to resolve the eye color situation: Pick one eye color, get rid of the speculatory ref note, note the discrepancy in the BTS, and specify which color the article follows.
  • Ref 8 needs {{WizardsCite}}.
    • Resolved. NBDani ^{Yeager's Repairs} 00:04, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Underlinking.
  • Document stats from this card.
  • Can use an Equipment section.
  • BTS: No publication dates; redundant information.
    • Also, some of it is unsourced. The referencing needs to be more specific as well, i.e. don't just cramp several refs at the end of a paragraph. OOM 224 15:58, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
  • No Mediacat. UberSoldat93 (talk) 15:53, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
    • Resolved. NBDani ^{Yeager's Repairs} 00:04, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Needs more sectioning. UberSoldat93 (talk) 15:55, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
• Drikl Lecersen
  • Infobox-exclusive hair color.
  • Improper date sourcing.
  • Duplicate links.
  • Many subjects introduced without proper context.
  • Needs more illustration and sectioning
  • Needs relevant captions on existing images (e.g. Why is there an image of Caedus here? Simply stating who he is does not help).
  • Many large paragraphs to be split up.
  • BTS has unsourced and redundant information.
  • Check abridged Legacy of the Force audiobooks. UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:13, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
• Reaper (Executor-class)
  • Note visually-discernable starship traits, such as engines.
  • Eliminate unnecessary double and triple refs.
  • History needs sectioning and images.
  • No Mediacat.
    • Looks like Samonic addressed the above four, not sure about the abridged audiobook though. I may be able to check before the meeting. VergenceScatter (talk) 23:37, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Check abridged audiobook. UberSoldat93 (talk) 16:58, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
• Barukka
  • This addition has yet to be verified and added to the article if necessary.
  • Infobox-exclusive information.
  • We do not need to specify if the character is no longer affiliated with a group within the infobox.
  • Needs illustration.
  • Dates need other sources.
  • Not all subjects have context.
  • General underlinking.
  • Quote attributions should not contain links if the subjects are mentioned in the body.
  • Unsourced BTS with redundant information.
  • Check abridged audiobook. UberSoldat93 (talk) 19:27, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
• Kiro
  • Images: Digitize comic images; enlarge existing images; more illustration.
  • Duplicate links.
  • General underlinking.
  • Eliminate unnecessary multi-refs.
  • Some subjects are missing context.
  • Needs more sectioning.
  • Documents Topps card stats.
  • Can use an Equipment section.
  • Improperly-sourced BTS.
  • No Mediacat. UberSoldat93 (talk) 13:49, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
• Svivreni
  • Infobox-exclusive information.
  • Almost all of the dates are improperly-sourced.
  • Multi-refs aren't required if one source can support all the information.
  • Multiple instances of refs citing multiple sources together.
  • One Adventure Journal reference that just links the magazine instead of an article within it, and another one without the appropriate citation template.
  • Redlink.
  • Multiple subjects without proper context.
  • Eliminate page and chapter numbers from referencing.
  • Svivren's location ref needs additional elaboration.
  • Cite individual comic issues instead of the whole series.
  • Unsourced BTS.
  • Check abridged audiobooks.
  • Provide a link for the Topps card. UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:07, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
• Tyro Caladian
  • Duplicate links.
  • Dates are not sourced properly.
  • Can use more illustration.
  • A number of subjects have no context.
  • Eliminate unnecessary multi-refs and page and chapter numbers.
  • BTS: Original research; unsourced information; narrative quotes should not be added. UberSoldat93 (talk) 14:16, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Discussion

Expand as needed.

Attendance

Positive

1. OOM 224 17:39, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
2. UberSoldat93 (talk) 19:14, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
3. I *should* be on break around then, but just in case notes are below. Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 15:58, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Negative

1. Will be flying home from France that evening. 1358 ^(Talk) 16:23, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
2. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 04:43, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
3. I will be visiting the Dreaming Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 13:17, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
4. Imperators II^(Talk) 14:23, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Notes

OOM

• Keep Jay, Myhr Rho, Nar Hida/Legends
• Kill the rest
• Redux L'ulo L'ampar
• Probe the rest OOM 224 21:12, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Macaroni

• Notes per OOM but extend Lamproid, vote goes to Shay. JediMasterMacaroni^(Talk) 04:43, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

CC-8

• Notes per Macaroni Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 13:17, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Imp

• Keep Jay, Magaloof/Legends, Myhr Rho, Nar Hida/Legends, Raygar
• Kill the rest of the old stuff
• Redux L'ulo L'ampar - that guy can't catch a break.
• Spare Cabbel/Legends (?)
• Probe the rest of the new stuff
• Give Shay my vote for anything else. Imperators II^(Talk) 14:23, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

SE

• Just in case, notes per Imp. Shay can have my vote. Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 15:58, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Minutes

Attendance

• Master Fredcerique
• OOM 224
• UberSoldat93
• Supreme Emperor

Articles stripped of Featured article status

• Biscuit Baron
• Jaller Obrim
• Lensi
• Mar Barezz
• Mar Tuuk/Legends
• Pzob/Legends
• Scimitar assault wing
• Slyther Bushforb
• Tay Vanis
• Theol Drost
• Tian Chyler
• Tyvokka/Legends
• Valara Saar

Articles that kept Featured article status

• Jay
• Myhr Rho
• Nar Hida/Legends
• Raygar

Articles that had their probation extended

• Lamproid/Legends
• Magaloof/Legends

Articles placed on probation

• Hugo Bartyn
• Celly Organa/Legends
• Comet (clone trooper)/Legends
• Dani
• Drikl Lecersen
• Reaper (Executor-class)
• Barukka
• Kiro
• Svivreni
• Tyro Caladian
• Icehead
• Vana Dorja
• Mezhan Kwaad
• Arwen Cohl

Articles spared from probation

• Cabbel/Legends

Articles sent to Redux

• L'ulo L'ampar

Notes

• Supreme Emperor does paperwork and schedules Meeting 142.
• Log