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Something you may find useful

Since you're about to embark on a project that will touch thousands of pages, you might want to look at how I unshackled KillerRoboLeia3000. In addition to setting the minimum throttle settings in the user-config, I shortened the delay timers in the core and some of the support files, and there were a bunch of them.

Since I code mostly by voodoo, I basically just grepped for "idle" or "sleep" and reduced any such entries, and it worked out quite nicely. Total number of fucks given about the strain I put on Wikia: 0 -- Darth Culator (Talk) 08:05, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, but AJTD6 runs solely on AutoWikiBrowser, where "sleep" is a single setting on the "bot" tab. I usually run tasks involving a large number of pages, like the mass substitution of user talk templates a few days ago that touched over 2,000 pages, with a one-second sleep between edits, which gives me about 15 to 20 edits per minute. That's plenty fast enough for me. —MJ— Comlink 17:53, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Bah. Well if I knew a damn thing about regexes, I'd get my bot to run alongside yours. I love beating the crap out of the servers. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 02:19, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
Here's the regex: \{\{[Rr]ef\|(.+?/(ref)?>)\}\} → $1 (or \1 depending on which one Python uses to return captures from parentheses). AJTD6 is currently doing all mainspace articles in ascending alphabetical order and just reached Coruscant; if you want to, KillerRoboLeia3000 can work backwards from the Zs and they can meet in the middle. RoboLeia could also handle the few hundred non-mainspace pages that use it, some of which (like user workbenches for massive articles) may be too large for AWB, which gets stuck if you try to feed it a page larger than about 200 KB. I took care of the 40 or so largest mainspace articles manually this afternoon before starting the bot to prevent that problem on this run. —MJ— War Room 02:57, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Holopedia

Hi there.

I'm the bureaucrat of Holopedia (http://bg.starwars.wikia.com), the Bulgarian Star Wars Wiki. Today I created a page about Holopedia here on Wookieepedia, following a redlink on the page List of Star Wars Wikis in other languages.

Later you added the Notability template to it. I read the Notability policy, which I didn't know anything about before. Unfortunately I don't see a way to proof the notability of Holopedia. It is the only Star Wars encyclopedia in Bulgarian, it is associated with the only Star Wars fan club in Bulgaria and it is a sister project of Wookieepedia, but that's about it.

I saw many of the sister Wikis have information pages about them on Wookieepedia so I just thought I should add some information about Holopedia as there was a redlink. I even saw that smaller sister Wikis than ours have pages on Wookieepedia - like the Romanian Lukepedia and the Croatian Wookieepedija.

So if you have any idea about how can I keep this page on Wookieepedia, please let me know. Otherwise, please delete it along with the images in it.

Thanks, adenry 19:32, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for drawing my attention to the other sister projects that appear to be non-notable. I have just tagged eleven of them with {{Notability}}. As for Holopedia, since there's no way to show notability, I have deleted the article and all four images per your request. I apologize for having to do that, but I do have to uphold our policy on the matter. I do hope that one day Holopedia will become sufficiently notable for its own article. —MJ— Training Room 19:54, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry you had to do that, too. Sister projects should be an exception to that rule and be allowed to have a page on Wookieepedia in my opinion. We are not fansites. This would give us some recognition and urge us to keep up our work. Deleting our pages doesn't exactly excite us about our next edit. But it's not my place to decide such things, so anyway... You should also remove the redlinks from List of Star Wars Wikis in other languages, so that other misguided sysops don't waste their time creating articles that would be deleted.
By the way, Holopedia was article #100 000 on Wookieepedia.
Thanks for your help and quick response. MTFBWY! adenry 20:18, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
I'll take care of the redlinks on the list later, as I'm in the middle of a large task now. I just checked again, though, and in fact Jela Reneke was number 100,000, as confirmed by Riffsyphon1024 on the article talk page; Holopedia was number 99,999. You were close, though. :) —MJ— Comlink 20:25, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Well, it said 99 999 on a Wookieepedia page in another tab before I published Holopedia and 100 000 after I did. It was definitely #100 000. Then the number 100 000 stayed for a while (I refreshed a few times), so there wasn't a new page for at least a few minutes. Now that you deleted it, the page created after Holopedia, page #100 001 becomes #100 000, naturally. Well, I was happy for an hour or two! Sorry that you had to delete #100 000. adenry 21:07, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Well, we didn't notice that 100,000 had been reached until a couple of hours later, by which time it's possible that another article had been deleted, which would have thrown off the count as well. It's one of those cases where we can never be exactly sure. 21:11, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
It's easy to check that. Use the New Pages Special Page and the Deletion log Special page. Currently (as I'm writing) the number of articles is 100 021. The number of articles created after Jela Reneke is also 21, which currently makes Jela Reneke #100 000. Holopedia was created right before Jela Reneke, so it was #100 000 while it existed. There weren't any deletions after creating Holopedia and before deleting it (except one redirection, but redirections are not included in the total number of articles), so deleted articles don't change anything. So there you go. adenry 21:47, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Interesting. Of course, you have to consider the fact that Holopedia, at the same time, is also not even remotely the 100,000th article to be created for two reasons: first, hundreds if not thousands of pages that have been previously created aren't included in the count because they have been deleted (and I'm not even talking about vandalism and fanon here), meaning that if we count off the 50,000th article today, it won't be the same as when we first reached 50,000, and second, the count includes disambiguation pages, which technically aren't articles. So the title of "100,000th article" is really arbitrary to begin with. —MJ— Comlink 22:03, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, you can always make the math using the logs and the current number of articles. Yes, you're right, of course, who knows what actual number the articles are. Perhaps the correct wording should be "the first time Wookieepedia reached a current total of 100 000 articles" or something like that. I don't care about titles or whatever, I was just clearing things up in case the staff of Wookieepedia wanted to know the truth. The important thing is that Wookieepedia rules! adenry 22:25, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I think we'll leave Jela Reneke as the "official" 100,000th article, since it wouldn't look good to say "we had to delete number 100,000". I appreciate you being friendly and polite about the whole matter, though. :) —MJ— Training Room 22:29, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

User

Thank you so much! The Force is strong in wookieepedia.--99.56.52.40 22:12, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

I just had a look at the Manual of Style.--99.56.52.40 03:18, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

We've spoken a few times already, but a huge thank you again for all your support on the nomination and your friendship over the years. Thanks. :) Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 05:45, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. :D —MJ— Training Room 05:46, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

{{Ref}} survivors

I put a list up here of the last transcludes. My bot is just skipping them with the current regex, and looking at Padme Amidala it seems that it may be because they have linebreaks in the ref. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 14:51, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I ran into three common exceptions that the regex didn't catch: line breaks in the ref and either a space or a pipe between the end of the reference and the closing }}. I'll take care of them in a little bit. A little tweaking to the regex should catch them. —MJ— Holocomm 16:35, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Gabriel Guzman

Hi MJ,

Quick question on this page, Gabriel Guzman. Is his deviantart page an approved source? Or should it be something official, like from the Darkhorse page? Thanks. --ToRsO bOy (talk) 18:53, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

It's valid as an external link, but not as a source for the claim that he's doing that story arc, for which we need something official like the Dark Horse website. —MJ— War Room 18:58, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
Done. Can you check if I did it right? ToRsO bOy (talk) 19:20, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
Tweaked. In general, try to avoid using search results as sources, since they are highly volatile and can change at any time. In this case, I used the specific pages for the two listed issues of Fire Carrier as the sources and moved the search results page down to external links, since it's useful as a list of everything he's done. The {{Verify}} tag has also been removed. —MJ— Comlink 20:21, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
Noted. Thanks. And also, adding sources for Category:Star Wars artists is only required for future products, correct? ToRsO bOy (talk) 21:27, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
In general, a source is required unless the statement is self-sourcing. The key is the ability to independently verify the claim. In this case, if the comic (novel, game, etc.) has been released, then the statement that "X drew/wrote/designed Star Wars: Y" is almost always self-sourcing since one can verify the statement by checking the credits section of Star Wars: Y itself. In the case of future products as well as uncredited work, though, a separate source is needed since one cannot verify it through the product itself. —MJ— War Room 00:01, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Get out the laxatives!

The quickest and easiest way to do this would be to copy/paste stuff from the SH thread and massage the wording, as really, I'd be repeating myself through most of it anyway. So, I'll get started on that. The voting options I figured would be the basic "For" and "Against," with a discussion area. Can't figure out any other way to vote; we either do it or not. So, I'll get right on it. Trak Nar Ramble on 03:24, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Revert

Thankyou for the warning, MJ. I'm having difficulty explaining to Cade that my use of the { confirm-battlename } tag is a request for clarification of the canonicity of the battle name not a dispute that the battle happened or that the name is not acceptable. He seems to be under the impression that I should be appending a { conjecture } tag but refuses to do so himself. Rather he simply reverts without any explanation. I'm not in the habit of adding { conjecture } tags without proof. Would you be able to assist in this matter? Rokkur Shen (talk) 23:53, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

I frankly am not familiar with these articles or the {{Confirm-battletitle}} tag and don't really know what should be done, so I'm not going to get involved. I would suggest asked for guidance/clarification from the community by posting in the Senate Hall forum. However, both of you need to stop the edit warring. This is not the first edit war I've seen between you two recently. I will remind you that the three-revert rule is not a right to revert three times, and persistent edit warring can lead to a block even if you haven't technically violated 3RR. If you disagree on something, work it out on talk pages until you come to agreement first, then revert back to the agreed version. Continued back-and-forth reverting is not how it's done, and will lead to a block if I continue to see it out of either of you. —MJ— Comlink 00:02, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate your standpoint MJ. Thanks for the advice. Ultimately I believe it is an issue of miscommunication and as I'm getting nowhere by trying to communicate with him I will have to bring it to the attention of the wider community. Rokkur Shen (talk) 00:12, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Mazicia Organa and Celly Organa

Hello Master Jonathan. I wondered if you could, whenever you have time, give Mazicia and Celly Organa a copy-edit and a review. The first one is quite short since there are only one appearance and two sources, the second one is... well, significantly longer. I intend to nominate both these articles in the near future, but there's absolutely no deadline, so feel free to take as much time you wish—provided that you accept my request, of course. Regards. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:04, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I'll get to them soon. Right off the bat, though, I see that the lead quote on Mazicia is unsourced; can you take care of that? —MJ— Council Chambers 01:24, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, of course. No sooner said than done! --LelalMekha (talk) 01:27, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
OK, here we go. Sorry about the delay. Objections starting with Mazicia:
  • If we know that she died before Wild Space, then the death field of the infobox should reflect this.
  • For the death date, a bare reference to Wild Space is probably insufficient, as I believe the 38 BBY date is calculated off of Obi-Wan's age, and IIRC Wild Space gives neither Obi's current age nor his date of birth, so an explanatory ref describing the calculation and sourcing the date or age that the calculation starts with will be needed. (If I'm wrong and the date can be established based solely on information contained within Wild Space, let me know.)
    Common knowledge or not, it needs to be sourced. These days, the best source for novel dates is The Essential Reader's Companion, which explicitly labels Wild Space as 22 BBY. Give me a ref saying that WS takes place 22 BBY per ERC and Mand.'s death is 16 yrs before per WS, and we'll be good there. —MJ— Comlink 21:00, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
  • "This news was devastating for the Queen of Alderaan, and that traumatic event would later cause serious repercussions for her health.": The second part of this sentence seems out of place. Always keep the biography in chronological order; the bit about health repercussions should be moved down to where those repercussions actually began (unless I'm misreading it and they actually do begin here, in which case please clarify it as such).
  • The "Agrippa" reference needs to name a source for the Star of Alderaan being constructed while Aldrete was a Senator.
  • "The events that followed the Clone Wars proved that her intuition was right.": Same as the previous objection. This belongs in a Legacy subsection, not where it currently is.
  • "As years went by, Mazicia never managed to get over her brother's death, which eventually led to her own demise.": This should be the last sentence of the section. Everything after this should be subsectioned under the heading "Legacy".
  • "Queen Mazicia's son, Bail Organa, eventually became Viceroy and First Chairman of the Alderaan system following the Alderaan Ascendancy Contention in 28 BBY. He also served as the Senator of the Alderaan sector from 32 to 1 BBY." This doesn't seem directly relevant to Mazicia herself. Post-death, only material that directly deals with article subject him/herself should be included in the article.
    This is still too much. "who eventually became Viceroy and First Chairman of the Alderaan system." can still be cut as it's not relevant to Mazicia herself. —MJ— Comlink 21:00, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
  • The entire (current) last paragraph of the bio could stand to be condensed down. Try to keep it relevant to Mazicia herself. For example, the bit about her memory is OK, but the next three sentences go off on a bit of a tangent with details about Bail's feelings that belong in his own article, while here they should be summarized in one sentence focusing on "he feels this way because they cost him his mother" or something along those lines. Likewise, the three sentences about the Star of Alderaan (including the one from the objection above), could be condensed into one or two.
    The Star of Alderaan portion still needs condensing. Say something like "Another part of her legacy, House Organa continued to use the Star of Alderaan, later renamed the Tantive IV, for over thirty years, and their involvement in the Rebellion against the new Galactic Empire proved Mazicia's prediction that her family might need more protection." That's really all you need to say. —MJ— Comlink 21:00, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
  • You need a "Personality and traits" section.
  • Don't forget to apply {{1st}} or {{1stm}} in the Appearances or Sources section.
  • The succession box is missing the |before-years= and |after-years= fields.
    I meant to actually fill in the fields. :P —MJ— Comlink 21:00, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
  • The second objection above also applies to the date reference here.
    See above. —MJ— Comlink 21:00, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
  • Speaking of the date in the succession box, I'm not exactly sure how it should be written, since we know neither the start nor end dates for her reign, but we do know a date in the middle. You might want to ask around about that.
  • Do we know for certain that Breha immediately succeeded Mazicia? If so, use a source that explicitly confirms the connection or explains how we know it; if not, then it should be labeled "Eventually".
Take care of these, and I'll give it one more look-through to see if I missed anything. Also, I would suggest going through Celly and checking each of these objections here against it, since mistakes you make in one article are likely to be present in other articles as well. If you can fix some of this stuff in advance on Celly, it will make both our jobs easier. :) —MJ— Training Room 03:00, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the review, I'll start fixing the article. I must confess the source material is pretty poor, which explains why the article seems "sort of stretched, like... butter scraped over too much bread." The case of Celly should be different, though. Or at least, I should hope so. --LelalMekha (talk) 18:32, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
Now, I think I took all your comments into account. As regards the date, the book starts shortly after the First Battle of Geonosis, and the book states that Mandirly's death happened "sixteen years ago." I suppose that the Battle of Geonosis happening in 22 BBY may be considered common knowledge, but I may be wrong. Now, for the date in the succession box, I suggest using the only date we know for sure (38 BBY) with the latin phrase ft., just like you did on the Padawan birthday ritual article. --LelalMekha (talk) 20:00, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
See the comments above. Note that {{1stID}} should not be used when the subject is identified in their very first appearance or mention, as is the case here. As for fl.: "Duh! Why didn't I think of that?!" :P —MJ— Comlink 21:00, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
Thank you again. I guess the only missing things are the sources for Bouris Ulgo's dates of reign. Unfortunately, I must confess I'm quite unfamiliar with SWTOR material, and Ulgo's article currently provides no references for those dates. I'll keep inquiring. --LelalMekha (talk) 21:24, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
Looks mostly good now. Two new objections:
  • Ref 15 needs an explicit source for both Ulgo seizing the throne and the death of Panteer.
  • There is no second objection. :)
—MJ— War Room 23:12, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
And... done. My stars! Looks like a did a really butchered job on that one. I'm not supposed to be a newbie anymore, though. Let's just say I need a vacation! xD --LelalMekha (talk) 23:28, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
Last one on Mazicia: Spell out the source you just added in plain English; citation templates like {{TORcite}} generally should only be used for basic, non-explanatory references. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 23:49, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
OK, Mazicia should be ready. I'll start on Celly later this week. —MJ— Comlink 02:15, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Angry Birds Books Verified

Hello Master Jonathan. I recently created two new pages, Angry Birds Star Wars: Lard Vader's Villains and Angry Birds Star Wars: Yoda Bird's Heroes. I couldn't add the links, because the filter kept keeping the external links out, but I assure you, they both exist on Amazon.com. Could you please check them out and add the links, and then remove the verify tag. Thank-you!!!!208.68.37.137 04:06, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

The filter was not stopping you from adding the links; it just gave you a warning that the link contained the string ref=, which in some situations (but not in this case) is frowned upon. You can bypass the warning to save the page simply by clicking "Save page" again. Earlier (after your edits), I modified the warning to explicitly state that you can hit "Save page" to bypass the warning, so hopefully that should make things clearer in the future. Also, once you've added the Amazon links, you can remove the {{Verify}} tags yourself (but only after you've added the links). —MJ— War Room 04:55, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Good now ?

I hope this is the way you want the pictures to be uploaded (I think I followed the policies) ? --Morgoth's Ring (talk) 22:05, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Also (I hope this is not a stupid question) what should in the categories when I want to upload something ? Does this mean the categories the mentioned information are in in their Wookieepedia articles ? Sorry for the trouble but this wikia has far more advanced uploading/editing options than the other ones I've edited to (wich is great !) --Morgoth's Ring (talk) 22:10, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

You obviously tried to provide the necessary information (as indicated by the upload log), but Wikia fucked things up and failed to create the description page with that information (which isn't your fault). I've done that manually now, so from a deletion standpoint, you're good. However, the image is very low resolution. We prefer that images be the highest resolution possible without artificially blowing them up. I've tagged it with {{Imagequality}} for now. Could you try to upload a higher resolution version? You may need to adjust your scanner's dpi (dots per inch) setting. As for categories, images have their own separate categories (Category:Images and its subcategories), and certain types of categories go in each of the four category fields (not all of which will be used on every image). If you don't understand the system, just ignore it and someone will come along and categorize it for you. —MJ— Training Room 23:20, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
I adjusted some settings and got it to a better quality (159x168 to 421x455). --Morgoth's Ring (talk) 00:15, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
Looks better now. The other thing you should do is edit the description to indicate exactly what is being depicted in that scene, as that will make it easier for others to categorize it (I, for one, haven't the slightest clue what's going on there). —MJ— Training Room 01:32, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

welcome

Oops, sorry about that. I had the proper template saved on my userpage with the 4 tildes, but when I saved it posted my username, so when I posted it to the Zealot's talk page I accidentally copied my username instead of the tildes. My apologies, Supreme Emperor (talk) 04:47, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

On your userpage, you can use <nowiki></nowiki> tags around each template to prevent that from happening and force it to be treated as plain text. Also, don't forget to use your actual username as the first parameter instead of "your_username". —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 04:50, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know, this is what happens when you try to welcome people while half asleep:P Supreme Emperor (talk) 04:52, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Account

Hi. I am a wiki contributor and not a member. I have had a think if I should make an account. But I do not want to make mistakes so if it isn't too much to ask could you please just run down how to sign up and what happens afterwards. Many thanks. 124.181.152.246 10:28, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Basically, fill out the signup form (Special:UserSignup). After that, you might be required to check your email and click a confirmation link before your account is activated. Soon after registering (assuming you do so on Wookieepedia and not another wiki), someone will leave a welcome message on your talk page; this sometimes takes only a few minutes, other times several hours depending on who's watching the recent changes at the time. The welcome message contains links to various policies; I recommend that you read through all of them, but at the very least read WP:NOT, WP:ATT, WP:MOS, WP:S, and WP:USER, as these are the policies that newbies most commonly run afoul of. You don't need to wait to receive the welcome message, though, as you can view the template here. After that, be bold and dive in! There's nothing wrong with making a few mistakes here and there as long as you listen when people tell you you're doing something wrong, learn from the mistake, and don't do it again. —MJ— Holocomm 21:32, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

The youmay matter on the new Star Wars comics

Hey I've added the template with your model in the other issues' articles, however I'm still confused. Was Star Wars: Republic ever called just "Star Wars" comics? Because if not, then it is just one more of the hundreds of Dark Horse's comics starting with the Star Wars prefix and its pointless in the youmay case. Winterz (talk) 19:56, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it was. From the series' article: "It was originally titled simply Star Wars, and acquired its Republic title at issue #46." ;) —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 20:00, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

RC-1013 & Zez-Kai Ell's Padawan

Hey Jon, how are ya? Could you please copy-edit, review, and do a word-count for RC-1013 and Zez-Kai Ell's Padawan? Thanks in advance.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 04:49, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Zez-Kai is done with no objections at 323 words. I'll get to Sarge soon, but Lelal has a request above that's been collecting dust that I'd like to do first, so it may be a few days to a week. —MJ— Training Room 05:49, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, Jon. As for Sarge, no problem.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 14:57, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Forntay system

Hi MJ, the reason I applied a delete tag to this page is that it is not even listed like this in any source. It was identified by the Atlas authors as a mistake in the first upload of the essential atlas online companion and has since been corrected. No pages link to Forntay system, it does not exist in canon so it is an unnecessary page. The correct page is Fortnay system. If it was misspelled as Forntay in another published source then I can understand keeping the redirect but as it stands the page is totally unnecessary. Rokkur Shen (talk) 05:50, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

"It was identified by the Atlas authors as a mistake in the first upload of the essential atlas online companion". That's all the reason I need to keep it. It's a potential search query if someone is working off of a old copy of the EAOC. Any misspelling that has appeared in an official source is a valid redirect. This applies even if the error was later corrected, because we can't assume that everybody is working with the most recent version of the source. —MJ— Training Room 05:56, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
No worries. I'll let it be then. Rokkur Shen (talk) 06:12, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Atlas JCF links

Hey, MJ, Menk says you'd be able to repair this Council Forums link for me so that we could find where the content is now. Rokkur Shen's asking for proof that systems in the Atlas's Appendix are named after their planets, and this is the best lead we've got. Thanks! Cade Calrayn GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit 18:33, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Manual conversion of any IGN-format link can be done with the instructions here and here. Alternatively, if you use Firefox, there's apparently an add-on that you can download that will automatically redirect them, see here for instructions for that (note that I haven't tried it but probably should since I use Firefox). In this specific case, the converted URL should be [1], but it looks like you'll have to dig back into the thread to find the post in question due to different posts-per-page settings (IGN showed 15ppp to logged-out users and a default of 25ppp to logged-in users, the latter of whom could change it anywhere from 5ppp to 50ppp; XenForo forces 25ppp on everyone with no option to change it). —MJ— Council Chambers 19:22, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to jump in here, but I was wondering if you could do me a favor. I changed a couple of links (the first two), but I was wondering if you could please check them to make sure I did them correctly. I want to make sure I'm doing it right before I do anymore. Thanks in advance.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 01:24, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Already checked. 8t88 was fine, but on 4-8C your new URL pointed to page 1 instead of the correct post on page 26, which is probably my fault for not clarifying that the manual conversion instructions drop the page number (I've edited that into the header now and fixed 4-8C). Always check that the new URL goes to the right post, and always get the URL for the exact post, not just a page link, for better verification. I actually should modify {{JCFcite}} to take just the post number and nothing else; that way the links won't break if the posts-per-page setting is changed or becomes customizable in the future. However, for now just follow the instructions at the top of the SH page to get the direct link to the individual post. :) —MJ— Training Room 01:31, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Okay. I'll give it another shot, but I still don't fully understand this point: How exactly do you tell which post to link to? Thanks for checking all that out, though. :) —Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 01:33, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
The citation should contain the username of the poster and the timestamp in Pacific Time (which is what's shown to logged out users). Just look for a post from that user with that timestamp. —MJ— Training Room 01:38, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Okay. I noticed that just as I posted that. Sorry. :P Thanks again.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 01:40, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Take a look at the new instructions on both the SH thread and at Template:JCFcite. I've updated {{JCFcite}} with three new parameters so it takes just a post or thread number instead of a URL. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 02:22, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Questions

Hi ! As you may (or off course may not) have noticed, I have been doing a lot of work with the Essential Guides (more particular the one on droids and the one on characters). I have some questions (sorry if their stupid) I try to work as thoroughly as a can, so when I work on these, I read them page for page and write down all info that could be useful in collumns (characters, organizations, ...). Then I check if that all corresponds with the articles here and I add them on the page I'm working on.

  • Is there a guideline on how many sublevels there maximum should be made in appearances (as example: Outer Rim Territories - Tatooine - Mos Eisley - Mos Eisley Cantina) ? Up until now I've used no more than 3 (so Mos Eisley Cantina is left aside)
    Assuming you're talking about the appearances lists on source pages, there's no limit to the number of sublevels, and items should never be left out just because they are multiple sublevels deep unless it's not worth having it's own article. —MJ— Comlink 18:05, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
  • Is there an easier way to check if the mentioned info in the work is also consistent with the info on Wookieepedia (mostly organizations that are differently spelled) ?
    I'm not sure what you're asking here. Could you try to clarify what you mean? —MJ— Comlink 18:05, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
    What I referred to was that sometimes the spelling/grammar in the Guides isn't the same as used on Wookieepedia (for example System and system here) or sometimes objects are referred to as ..'s blaster, and one can't know if there is a proper name for this without checking the wikia. Is there a faster way to check multiple of these without having to type them in one by one ? --Morgoth's Ring (talk) 18:49, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
    Not really, but there are a few tips you can try. First, AFAIK we always decapitalize "system" when referring to star systems, so if the Guide capitalizes it, try it here lowercase first. As for ...'s blaster, you can try looking for a link on the article for the character itself, but in general we almost never have (and really shouldn't have) personal weapon articles other than lightsabers and similar weapons. —MJ— Council Chambers 18:56, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
  • When adding the titles, should (Mentioned only) be used if the title does not appear in a conversation or as a tag on a characters clothing, but is used in the name (as example Gial Ackbar is called Admiral Ackbar, should "Admiral" be (Mentioned only) used or not) ?
    Titles is frankly an area that I've never really worked with, and so I don't know. I would suggest either asking someone else directly or posting the questions in the Senate Hall forum —MJ— Comlink 18:05, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
  • Is there a way I could follow the pages I edited, but only the ones not marked as minor edit ?
    Unfortunately, there's no way to do this by default. If you switch to Wookiepedia's recommended skin, Monobook, in Special:Preferences (assuming that you don't already use that), you'll have a "follow this page" checkbox on the edit screen that you can use to choose on each edit whether to follow the page. —MJ— Comlink 18:05, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
  • Is there a way I could set (preferably only on Wookieepedia) the automatic spelling checker on English ? (it is on Dutch although I've chosen to display everything in English).
    Wookieepedia does not have a spell-checker; that functionality comes from your browser. In the latest version of Chrome, click the menu button in the upper right, choose "Settings...", type "spell" into the search box, click "Languages and spell-checker settings...", click the language you want to use for spell-checking (you may need to add it to the list with the "Add" button), click "Use this language for spell checking", and then click OK. Unfortunately, there is no way to do this for just one website; the change will affect all websites you visit. —MJ— Comlink 18:05, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the trouble ! --Morgoth's Ring (talk) 14:45, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

I've inserted my replies above. —MJ— Comlink 18:05, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
Oke thank you for responding so fast ! As you suggested I have posted the question about the titles in the Senate Hall forum and I will not put aside information just because there would be to many sublevels. Thank you again ! --Morgoth's Ring (talk) 13:06, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Episode IX

I found out that episode IX will be released in 2021. —Unsigned comment by IchigoKurosaki3636 (talk • contribs)

Nice, but we can't do anything with that information without a source for it. And I highly, highly doubt there is a reliable source for it at this time. —MJ— Comlink 18:05, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Infoboxes and my edits on Wookieepedia

Hi. Lately I have been working on several infobox projects in my sandbox User:Superdadsuper/Sandbox ; I have been adjusting to several infoboxes on Clone Wars Related Items however, I lack a poor sense of width/cell padding spacing numbering and coding and I do require help so that I may keep the infoboxes right when I insert more information into the box. Could you perhaps teach me. Second I am a poor writer and a majority of my edits here on Wookieepedia are reverted. I can provide much information on the game of Clone Wars Adventures however, my poor sense of writing does not serve me well and gets my edits with information in them reverted. Could you please help me with tips and such. Thanks! - Superdadsuper —Unsigned comment by Superdadsuper (talk • contribs) 22:23, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Your infobox problem is that you have {{Campaign}} inside of {{Battle}}, and that simply doesn't work. You can't nest an infobox inside of another infobox; that would require modifying both infoboxes specifically for that purpose, and I can't think of a single instance when that would be worth the hassle.
As for poor writing, the only thing I can tell you is to learn proper English. Wookieepedia is not an English school. All who contribute prose here are expected to be able to write in something resembling proper English. Proofread your own work before you save it; read it out loud if that helps you spot errors. I can't really give you more specific tips without seeing examples of your writing.
Finally, please remember to properly sign your comments by using four tildes (~~~~). Simply typing your username as you did above is not an acceptable substitute. —MJ— Holocomm 22:45, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Re: JCF quote sources

Thanks for the heads up. I will remember that in the future.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 02:33, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Appearances

  • Miscellanea

What is supposed to come here and how detailed should be gone ? Example The Force: The Force / Telepathy / Force empathy / ...

  • Technology

Somewhat the same question, how far should be gone ? Example blaster: Blaster / Blaster Cannon / Quad-Blaster Cannon / ...

  • Vehicles

Should vehicles be grouped (I mean using levels and sublevels) by Model, Class or Product Line ? I have been using Class as much as I can, but sometimes a vehicle has multiple classes and this doesn't make it easier to group them.

  • Organizations

Sometimes an organization is mentioned (I've encountered this problem with the Cross-Sections) but it isn't clear whether this organization is meant literary or is just an organization combined with a city. Example: Corusant air traffic control: This is mentioned in Episode I: Incredible Cross-Sections as an organization but when one does some research, one finds that Air Traffic Control is a building on Corusant. --Morgoth's Ring (talk) 16:51, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

You're getting into areas that I'm not familiar with here, as my very limited work on OOU articles has not presented me with these issues. Frankly, you'll be better off asking someone else here. —MJ— Training Room 20:27, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
Oke no problem ! --Morgoth's Ring (talk) 20:33, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

inactive tag

Hi, recently i've started adding the inactive tag to inactive users, I probably should have double checked sooner, but have I been doing it correctly? Thanks, Supreme Emperor (talk) 21:00, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

I was about to post this on your talk page when I saw this message, so I'll put it here instead: Hey. When you're on you {{Inactive}} sprees, if you come across one like User:Dylankidwell where the page has previously been tagged as such and the user has reverted it without making any main namespace edits, you should revert back to the previous inactive tag and report the page to WP:RFP so an admin can protect it. This applies even if the tag was reverted less than a year ago, as it's main namespace edits alone that determine inactivity (though if the tag was just recently reverted within the past couple of weeks or so, they should be allowed a reasonable chance to return to editing before reverting back and protecting). For that reason, users are not supposed to revert the tag without actually returning to main namespace editing. Likewise, the date you provide in all instances of {{Inactive}} should be the date of the last main namespace edit, not just the date of the last edit in any namespace. Thanks. Does that make sense? —MJ— Training Room 21:12, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
Makes sense, i'll go through the ones i've added the tag to later tonight and fix my mistakes. Also, for the date is there a preferred format for it like year/month/day or does that just come down to personal preference? Thanks for the help, Supreme Emperor (talk) 21:20, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
Date format is personal preference. Different people use different formats. Unless you're using ISO format (yyyy-mm-dd), though, it's best to spell out the month to prevent confusion. —MJ— Comlink 21:31, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks again for the help, Supreme Emperor (talk) 21:35, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
One quick question, when a user has only done a few edits to their userpage and nothing else do I just use the last edit date? Supreme Emperor (talk) 02:23, February 1, 2013 (UTC)
If they have never edited the mainspace, just say something to the effect of "No mainspace contributions". Also, in such cases, I would count the year from their first edit, not last, as editing just the user page and nothing else violates the precepts that we are not a webhost and that user pages are not your primary contribution. —MJ— War Room 06:10, February 1, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, i'll fix those ones tonight. Thanks, Supreme Emperor (talk) 14:40, February 1, 2013 (UTC)
Just to clarify, for those users I would put something line inactive|No mainspace edits? Thanks, Supreme Emperor (talk) 15:50, February 1, 2013 (UTC)
Essentially, yes. —MJ— Comlink 19:36, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

File:Alderaan mountians.png

Just an FYI, it's still spelled wrong. ;) I just copied the file name from the image I was replacing, but it should be mountains. not mountians. In the event you want to move it again. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 04:03, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind. I see you got it already. :) - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 04:03, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
Yep, realized the error as I was fixing the link in Grindelwald. —MJ— Council Chambers 04:05, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Disruptive behavior of an unregistered user

Hey Master Jonathan. I do not normally come and complain about other users' behavior, but... I'm a bit tired of a certain unregistered user who keeps adding unsourced information, removing tags and performing other disruptive actions despite having been told multiple times why he/she shouldn't do that. I do not wish to take part in an edit war, so you could you please intervene before that person makes us all mad? Just have a look at the history of the AC-38 article. You'll see what I mean. --LelalMekha (talk) 01:09, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

He's been blocked for a week. In the future, you can report users like this to WP:VIP or to the IRC channel instead of approaching an individual admin who may or may not be around at the moment. :) —MJ— Council Chambers 01:15, February 7, 2013 (UTC)
Right, I'll remember that. ;-) *Sigh* I think it's all too common and so sad. If at least that person had actually reacted to the message I sent them and started a discussion, maybe we wouldn't have had to block them. Stubbornness does not pay... --LelalMekha (talk) 01:21, February 7, 2013 (UTC)