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Unexpected Company

In the "Unexpected Company" mini-episode, Ahsoka lets Padme know that she knows about her relationship with Anakin. In the episode "Heroes on Both Sides", Ahsoka says that she is not surprised that she and Anakin get along so well. Padmé responds with awkwardness, obviously trying not to give away the secret between her and Anakin.

Obviously, "Unexpected Company" takes place sometime AFTER the events of "Heroes on Both Sides". —Unsigned comment by AlexAstahov2222 (talk • contribs)

"Hide/Show" function is broken for all rows that have more than one category.

Related to "Problem with Headings and Unpublished filtering" from the archive of the talk page.

Certain rows in the timeline table have more than one class on them. For example, "The High Republic: Convergence" has both "unpublished" and "comic". However, if you attempt to hide both novels and unpublished works, "The High Republic: Convergence" will still be visible.

This is due to an error on the JavaScript of the page: 

$('.timeline-toggles').find('td > a').click(function() {
    var hideBtnClass = $(this).parent().attr('class')
      , $hideContent = $('tr.' + hideBtnClass);
    if (!$hideContent.length) {
        return;
    }
    $hideContent.toggle();
    if ($(this).text().indexOf('hide') >= 1) {
        $(this).text($(this).text().replace('hide', 'show'));
    } else {
        $(this).text($(this).text().replace('show', 'hide'));
    }
});

`toggle()` hides an element if it is currently shown and shows an element if it is currently hidden. By using it twice on the same element (once to hide novels, then again to hide unpublished works), the row ends up being visible.

This could be fixed by adding a parameter to the call to `toggle()`, so that we specify whether or not we want to hide or show the element. I tried this in my browser and it seemed to fix the problem: 

$hideContent.toggle($(this).text().includes('show'));

I'd love to fix this, but there is of course no way to modify the JavaScript by simply editing the page. Does anyone know who to contact regarding fixing this? —Unsigned comment by 70.80.75.161 (talk • contribs)

  • Fixed now, thanks for the help. Change will take effect as soon as Fandom has reviewed the edit. 1358 (Talk) 21:01, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Star Wars Rebels: Season 4: Episode 11: "DUME" incorrect year on timeline.

Star Wars Rebels: Season 4: Episode 11: "DUME" is placed 1 BBY on the timeline. Thrawn: Treason takes place before this episode, which is confirmed to take place 0 BBY. Star Wars Rebels: Season 4: Episode 12: "Wolves and a Door" takes place in 0 BBY aswell, so surely there is an error on the timeline, and S4 E11 should be changed to 0 BBY. Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 18:36, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Books in wrong placement on timeline.

"Stormtrooper in Training" takes place in 34 ABY. It is placed underneath "Before the Awakening" Junior Reader book as it is an adaptation. However, surely 'Stormtrooper in training' should be moved down the timeline to before Episode VII The Force Awakens as it is set nearly before the start of the film Secondly, "Rey's First Flight" takes place around 31-34 ABY, but the date shown on the timeline is "c.34 ABY" so this should be amended aswell. Finally, "The Perfect Weapon" short story takes place in 34 ABY (see reference 203), it should be moved down the timeline to somewhere before The Force Awakens because currently it is sat before "Force Collector" which is set in 31 ABY. Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 18:04, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

  • Thanks for bringing to attention, I've moved them now! Lewisr (talk) 19:36, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
    • I believe you have made an error, ""Rey's First Flight" row is messed up. And 'Stormtrooper in training' should be placed right before The Force Awakens as it is set immediately before the film. Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 20:28, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
      • Ah that should be fixed now, thanks for spotting. I disgaree that it should be right before, there is mention a couple days passing in the story after Finn's success in the simulation room. And "The Core Problem" takes place the day before Poe leaves for Jakku, so I think it's placing is fine for now Lewisr (talk) 20:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

"Masters" Short Story Row

"Masters" should say occurs concurrently to Return of the Jedi, and set in 4 ABY. It is Currently missing this.

  • Nvm, I guess it did publish the edit. Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 21:24, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Also, when I try to make changes (very small ones), it gives me HTTP 504 and gateway timeout. So I am unable to make changes and can only report them here. Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 21:20, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

  • It says this and it is hit and miss whether it publishes the edit or not. I wonder if it is a problem on my side or not? Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 21:24, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
    • Not certain, but if you'd rather just note things here then you're welcome to, or you can on my talk page and I'll get to them when I can Lewisr (talk) 21:36, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Tales of the Jedi: Episode 4: "The Sith Lord" missing year.

Tales of the Jedi: Episode 4: "The Sith Lord" is set during 32 BBY, and occurs concurrently to Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace. Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 20:22, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Hyperspace Stories 1 missing year.

Hyperspace Stories 1 is set during 22 BBY, as it takes place after the Clone Wars begins, but Anakin Skywalker is visibly younger in this than in Star Wars: The Clone Wars film. Star Wars: Galactic Atlas dates both of these to 22 BBY, thus placing Hyperspace Stories 1 in the same year.

"A Jedi's Duty" short story is missing a year

A Jedi's Duty takes place in 21 BBY, as it is set immediately prior to the Second Battle of Geonosis, which is dated to 21 BBY by Star Wars: Galactic Atlas.

Placement of individual Battlefront 2 campaign missions on the timeline.

Hey, I have made a list of where exactly each of the battlefront 2 campaign missions would take place on the timeline, and have given an explanation for each mission as to why I have placed them there. I feel like adding these will benefit the timeline, as the legends media timeline does this with video game campaign missions and anyone new to Star Wars wanting to explore more of the canon eu may not realise there are campaign missions that link closely with other comics/novels and films, as currently the time displays Star Wars Battlefront II as 32 BBY - 35 BBY in one row. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15iJCWFpWgN5CS3MBBnK533lTIW76udbuW1lSpbBWZHs/edit?usp=sharing Some adjustments may need to be made but I hope this is good enough to be added to the timeline!

Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 23:12, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

  • yes boss i added them to the timeline but the VG part of the row is bugged i think someone will need to fix that cheers SwilerWithAnIronFist (talk) 21:58, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
    • Hey man, great work and I see its been fixed, however there is only one error I can see, Mission 5 says it takes concurrently to and immediately after Shattered Empire 3, it seems to be mixed up with mission 6, as mission 6 takes place concurrently to and immedeidiately after. Thanks for the work! Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 22:29, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

"Tales of Villainy: The Gaze Electric" & "The High Republic Adventures" during "Light of the Jedi"

"Tales of Villany: The Gaze Electric" & "The High Republic Adventures #1-2" are set during "Light of the Jedi". If I'm wrong, changed should be second reference on page "Tales of Villainy: The Gaze Electric" where is said "'Tales of Villainy: The Gaze Electric' takes place concurrently to 'The High Republic: Light of the Jedi'".

  • According to DJO, Adventures starts after LOTJ, relevant tweet here. Given that Gaze Electric leads into those it almost certainly starts after LOTJ as well Lewisr (talk) 23:53, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Edits which i cannot publish due to an error

The edits that still need to be completed are:

  1. Darth Vader (2017) 1 - Needs to say occurs concurrently and immediately after Revenge of the sith
  2. Tales of the jedi ep 6 - opening occurs concurrently to revenge of the sith
  3. Kanan 5 - Frame story occurs after Kanan 1
  4. Kanan 1,7,8,9,10 and 11 need †, and they need to say 4 BBY
  5. edited reference for [77] which states along the lines of "Kanan comic series frame story is set "fifteen years" after the kanan 1 flashback which is set during order 66
  6. Kanan 6 needs to be moved before Kanan 7

Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 01:28, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Audiobooks and audio dramas

I have three questions dealing with audio productions on this page
Why does this page not include audiobook adaptations, when they are included on every appearances section?
Why are audio productions listed as novels, not all audio productions have a script versions, and if they do the links on this page link to the audio versions.
Why aren't the German audio drama adaptations not included? (same thing goes for the French junior novel adaptations)

I would fix these issues myself, but the page crashes every time I try to edit it. -MontztheMan02 (talk) 05:22, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

  • The page is far from being complete, it has a notice that indicates it's in need of major work!


1) I can't really answer as I don't know, we do have List of canon audio productions if that helps
2) There currently isn't an option to list things down as audio dramas so novel seemed like the best alternative, and the audio always was announced first so it was just listed first on the timeline
3) I don't know anything about them so I can't really add them myself, and simply just no one else has done it yet

I'm sure these aren't entirely helpful answers to you, but it's the best I can do as of now sorry! Lewisr (talk) 05:37, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Re: #2 (entries for audio dramas/audiobooks)
I suggest adding two new categories, if anyone well-versed enough in the necessary formatting and content would be up for such an undertaking. The first category would be for audio works (a simple note in individual entries could indicate the specific format), and the second - "short form video", "online video", or such (for things like the Tales of the Jedi episodes, and the Rebels and Resistance shorts). Adding these two categories would keep the category key tidy (with an even number of items), while making it possible to more accurately include works of these types. -- k1darkknight (talk) 20:43, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Tales of the Jedi

The first three episodes of Tales of the Jedi are listed with the chronological order of 2, 3, 1. Is this correct, in that episode 1 takes place after episodes 2 and 3, or is episode 1 misplaced? Livingston (talk) 16:33, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

  • It's correct that episode 1 is set chronologically after 2 and 3. Episode 1 (Life and Death) features Ahsoka as a young child, whereas episodes 2 and 3 feature Dooku before he left the Jedi Order, which is before Ahsoka was born Lewisr (talk) 16:37, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Visual Editing no longer works on table

Hi, just wondering if this was intentional or not, as source editing is bringing up a Https error again, and visual editing was the only thing that worked for me.Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 13:45, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Return of the Jedi – Emperor Palpatine 1?

The timeline includes an upcoming comic book by this title, but looking at the sources, it doesn't look like this is an actual existing comic book? The source is the Amazon listing for the paperback collected edition of Marvel's Return of the Jedi comics, and this is the list of comics, which doesn't include "Emperor Palpatine". "COLLECTING: Star Wars: Return of the Jedi - Jabba's Palace (2023) 1, Star Wars: Return of the Jedi - Ewoks (2023) 1, Star Wars: Return of the Jedi - Lando (2023) 1, Star Wars: Return of the Jedi - The Empire (2023) 1, Star Wars: Return of the Jedi - The Rebellion (2023) 1, Star Wars: Return of the Jedi - Smugglers (2023) 1, Sprouse Return of the Jedi 40th Anniversary Variants" So it sounds like this comic doesn't exist? Beleko (talk) 15:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

my edit did the opposite of what it should have done

There were some sentences which had ", and ". (Which are wrong they should be inside the ")

I tried to replace all the wrong ones with the correct way but it just made them all wrong.

Sorry Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 17:33, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Later "Filoni-verse" placement

In February, Jon Favreau seemed to say that there was some not-insignificant length of time, between S2 and S3 of Star Wars: The Mandalorian. In the video attached to this tweet - https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1630794513244467200?s=20 - he waffles between saying that grogu was with luke:

- "more than one" year,
- "somewhere between one and two" years, and
- "uh, zero and two years."

From his tone, I feel the "zero to two" comment is just him doing a little "CYA", just in case. Based on all of the above, I suggest that there are four reasonable options for placement of Fett, Mando S3, Ahsoka, Skeleton Crew, and the as-yet-untitled Filoni-helmed film:

1) c. 10 ABY for all
2) c. 10 ABY for Fett, c. 11 ABY for the rest
3) c. 11 ABY for all, or
4) c. 9-11 ABY for all.

Finally, I feel these should be tagged with the "†" indicator for "Exact Placement Unknown".

Thoughts?

(Also, any edits per this post will need someone else to do them, as I have the same problem editing the timeline chart as others here have mentioned.) --k1darkknight (talk) 22:12, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

  • Star Wars: Timelines places Book of Boba Fett in 9 ABY, so Fett is confirmed to be 9 ABY. This Tweet states that Ahsoka is around the same time as Mando. This starwars.com article states that Skeleton Crew is set in the same time as Mando and Ahsoka. As Timelines dates Mando S1 and S2 to 9 ABY, it is assumed they are set the same year. Also the canon timeline mentions "Official sources for timeline placements are always given precedent over "logical" placements.", and as StarWars.com is an official source, the years cannot be changed for "reasonable" placement or what Favreu said (which has been proved wrong with Timelines). Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 14:12, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
  • Does Timelines date S3 at all? If not, then S3 and everything after it could still take place as late as 11 ABY. In that case, Skeleton Crew and Ahsoka would still be "set in the same time as Mando", if no one has specified that it's all in the same year. So I'd propose that, while everything through Fett be left as either "9 ABY" or "c. 9 ABY", Mando S3, Ahsoka, and Skeleton Crew should be "c. 9-11 ABY", with the "†" indicator. I mean, assuming there is no mention of placement for S3, or Grogu returning to Mando, other than Favreau's comments. --k1darkknight (talk) 21:45, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
  • Timelines does not date S3 at all. Season 3 latest can take place in 10 ABY, as there is not a 2 year gap between Fett and Mando S2. Mando S1, S2 and Fett should be "9 ABY" and not "c.9 ABY" as they are dated 9 ABY, not circa. Timelines dates the final episode of Fett to 9 ABY, which is when grogu returns to Mando. Only official sources have dates Mando to 9 ABY, and ahsoka, skeleton to "same time as mando", so thats what will be presumed until an official date is set. Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 15:45, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Reference error

There is an error somewhere causing this page to be included under "Pages with reference errors". I originally thought that was only due to the "Halcyon Legacy" ref - currently unavailable (no text provided for two instances of this ref). After playing with it in my own sandbox and removing these two refs the error was persistent.

Not sure how the "Timelines" ref actually produces this error, but I've also removed every instance of it (<ref name="Timelines" />) as well and the error was suddenly gone. This needs to be fixed somehow, but I have no idea how this ref does its trick.

Could it be due to the overwhelming number of actual <ref name="Timelines" />? I've also tried replacing the "Timelines" name with something else, the same thing happened and removing it again released the article from the above mentioned category. --Orgus Ordo (talk) 16:54, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Star Wars Galaxy of Adventures (comic series)

Why are only 3 out of 14 of the Star Wars Galaxy of Adventures (comic series) issues included here? As these contain "reused panels and storylines from the previously released graphic novel adaptions", should they be here at all? Do these 3 contain exclusive material?

  • The page is far from being complete, it has a notice that indicates it's in need of major work. I remember removing some of them as they do not contain any new material, so it would pretty much be a double entry. Feel free to remove them if they contain no unique material, as to my knowledge all of them are reused stuff. Rxxxxxxxxxx (talk) 17:11, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

New Hide/Show toggle button

I was wondering if a new hide/show toggle button could be added to hide or show adaptations. For example, for The Force awakens there is 1 novel adaptation, 4 JR novel adaptation, 17 YR novel adaptations, 7 comic adaptations, and 5 TV adaptations. This is the case for every other movie and a couple of tv series. I think it would help with the pollution of similar content.

Young Jedi Adventures Shorts placements

Hello. I can't find a reasoning for the placements for the Young Jedi Adventures shorts. Why are they all set specifically after episode 2 of the TV series and why is the third short considered the last short chronologically? PurpleVanilla (talk) 19:11, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

  • I've put these in release order unless someone can share a reasoning for a different chronology. Rebelcrimsonbear (talk) 15:31, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Sorting by Release Date - Unreleased Entries at Top

When sorting the table by release date, all unreleased entries without a predicted release date ("Released" cell blank) are sorted as the earliest dates. Suggest utilizing "data-sort-value=9999" for the (currently) 45 unreleased entries which would allow for them to remain blank and still be sorted after released entries, and unreleased entries with a predicted release date.

Eras

Could we maybe divide the canon timeline by the official eras? —Unsigned comment by 99.124.158.124 (talk • contribs)

Can we bring back the writers column?

I actually really liked being able to see the list of writers for each piece of media, and I'm not sure the simplicity gained by removing that column outweighs the loss of that information. Is there a reason that column was seen as adding unnecessary complexity? —Unsigned comment by Smsdude45 (talk • contribs)

Yes, it was removed because it being gone allows for the source traversal bot (User:C4-DE Bot) to assist editors sitewide with source ordering much easier. It is a loss of information, but several editors in the Discord felt that the benefit of being able to widen the existing columns + helping the bot (which saves our editors many hours of time, allowing us to better update pages) was well worth.—spookywillowwtalk 03:40, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Missing season and episode numbers for the TV series.

Please add back in season and episode numbers, not sure why these were removed.—Unsigned comment by 75.176.29.194 (talk • contribs)

These were removed because the timeline is used/maintained using a bot for our sitewide sources project, as it's pretty hard to manage, and taking them out makes maintaining it much easier. Though we do know it results in a slight loss of utility, it means we can keep it up to date better, as editors.—spookywillowwtalk 17:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Inclusion of release dates for unpublished entries that are probably canceled

I find it odd to include a release date for entries that were never released. Should probably move both What is the Story of Princess Leia? (2021) and Young Jedi Adventures: My First Comic Reader Level 1 (2023) to "Canceled content" and remove from this list at this point. Rebelcrimsonbear (talk) 20:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

  • If they have been cancelled then we should for sure remove them, but do we know they have been? Lewisr (talk) 01:46, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Poe Dameron comic dating

Reading SW: Timelines at the moment and it places the formation of Poe's Black Squadron at 34 ABY. Is the TRoS Visual Dictionary considered more important or is the placement of 32 ABY for the comics an error? PurpleVanilla (say hi) 06:53, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Timelines has a few issues regarding Poe, it puts Poe joining the Resistance in 33 ABY, but then puts events where he was put of the Resistance before he joined (such as BB-8 liberating droids in "Robot Resistance" and the business with C-3PO's new arm in Star Wars Special: C-3PO 1 which also appears in Force Collector in 32 ABY). So until another source clears up the timeline issues I think we've decided to stick with the 32 ABY date for the formation Lewisr (talk) 20:11, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

New Audio Category

So, are we going to assign anything to this? Six canon audio drams and six Choose You Destinies? Anything else? Rebelcrimsonbear (talk) 14:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Catching up with Legends

With 2,442 published Canon entries on this table as of today, it is rapidly approaching the size of the Legends table (currently 2,589 entries). For the last 17 years of Legends (1997-2014), media was being released pretty regularly at about 100 per year. The Canon era has seen about 230 per year released, also very linearly. At that pace, this list should pass Legends next summer. Rebelcrimsonbear (talk) 16:15, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Young Jedi Adventures Timeline

Hi, I had previously brought up this topic to user Lewisr. First, I want to thank you all for the great work you do on the timeline, it is an amazing accomplishment and you all should be really proud of. Now, I think the current placement for Young Jedi Adventures needs a big rearrangement. As most of us now, the second half of S1 ties into Phase One of The High Republic Initiative: we meet Estala Maru, Ember, Bell Zettifar, Loden Greatstorm, we go to Starlight Beacon, mentions to Avar Kriss and the finale is set the same day of Starlight Beacon opening. The last episode of the first season, therefore, is set during Light of the Jedi epilogue, which is confirmed to be 232 BBY. Now, we currently have all Season One and Season Two of YJA taking place in 232 BBY, but this cannot be. So far, the show has had two Life Days: one in episode 19 from S1 and another one in episode 9 from S2. This means: 1) the first Life Day is before Light of the Jedi (232 BBY) and 2) the second Life Day is after Light of the Jedi (232 BBY).

Furthermore, in episode 8 of Season 2, Kai mentions it has been one year since they traveled to Omaka for Dunkutu Day (this is obvious because it is an annual celebration) but it further confirms YJA S1 (from episodes 1-19) take place the year before the second Life Day, which is months after the ending of S1. Young Jedi Adventures S1 episodes 1-19 are set in 233 BBY.

The second Life Day featured in the show (YJA S2 E9) therefore must be the Life Day from YJA S2, placing it concurrently to the events of "A Coruscant's Solstice" which is the Life Day of 232 BBY. Of course, there is no problem so far until we deal with the elephant in the room: Yoda. Yoda has to be missing by the time of YJA S2 Episodes 5-11, since 232 BBY is the same year where he disappears after the battle of Trymant IV. Yoda has to remain missing for the next seasons of the show (until they are set in 230 BBY in order to avoid a timeline inconsistency) so lets hope they are aware of this.

My suggestion for the timeline is the following:

  • Keep the current watch/reading order for Young Jedi Adventures S1 Shorts, Young Jedi Adventures S1 episodes 1-19, Galactic Training and more the same, just change the year from 232 BBY to 233 BBY.
  • For 232 BBY I recommend the following order:
    • Young Jedi Adventures S1 episodes 20-24
    • Young Jedi Adventures: My First Comic Reader Level 1 (said to include adventures with Yoda, fits better at this point in the timeline rather than after the first chunk of S2)
    • Into the Dark
    • Light of the Jedi
    • Young Jedi Adventures S1 Episode 25
    • Starlight: Go Together
    • A Test of Courage
    • The High Republic (2021) #1 (Yoda mentions he is still on sabbatical but plans to return once the Star Hopper is finished, which is very soon, supposedly)
    • The High Republic: Jedi Brave in Every Way (set shortly after Starlight's inauguration)
    • Young Jedi Adventures: Pop-Up Peekaboo!
    • Young Jedi Adventures Free Comic Book Day 2024 (Yoda takes Qort, Farzala and Lula, his new apprentices on the Star Hopper to Tenoo)
    • Fun with Nubs
    • Keep the order between Young Jedi Adventures S2 shorts and Young Jedi Adventures S2 Episodes 1-4. I would place Nubs-tacle Course before Episode 4 since they are both Yoda's last appearance in YJA media. The closer they are too each other, the better.)
    • Tales of Villainy: The Gaze Electric
    • The High Republic Adventures (2021) #1-2 (Qort, Farzala and Lula have been training with Yoda for a while now, the Emergences are still happening).
    • Young Jedi Adventures S2 Episode 5 (not particular reason, but in order to spread the new episodes accordingly I think this works).
    • The Edge of Balance Vol. 1
    • The High Republic Adventures (2021) #3-5 (it has been a week since THR Adventures (2021) #2, Yoda goes missing.)
    • Young Jedi Adventures S2 Episodes 6-7.
    • Starlight: First Duty
    • The High Republic (2021) #2 (Keeve has been a Jedi Knight for a while, and #2 picks up after Kriss is sent to Kazlin, which happens at the end of First Duty.)
    • The High Republic (2021) #3-5
    • Young Jedi Adventures Episodes 8-9 (Life Day of 232 BBY)
    • A Coruscant Solstice
  • For 231 BBY:
    • Young Jedi Adventures Season 2 Episodes 10-11
    • The High Republic Adventures (2021) #6-7 (it is said that it has been a couple of months since Yoda's disappearance.

I am looking forward with discussing this with all of you.Marvelus (talk) 01:53, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

  • Thanks for putting this, I really appreciate it. I'm a rookie here and know very little about THR, but I like these discussions so I'll try to talk some of the things that caught my attention. As for the main point, your theory at 233 BBY. Maybe it is just my lack of English skills and my lack of understanding, but I can't understand how it could be defined as 233 BBY. It would be wrong to assume everything is 232 BBY since a year has definitely passed, but since S1-25, the crossover with LotJ, and S2-4, where Yoda appears, are located between their respective Life Day episodes and Dunkutu Day episodes, it is simple to assume It may be both a transition from 233 BBY to 232 BBY and a transition from 232 BBY to 231 BBY. And given that YJA is announced as 200 years before the Phantom Menace, it seemed natural to assume that it was moving from 232 BBY to 231 BBY for me. Also, the order of the episodes does not necessarily correspond exactly to the chronological order. However, this possibility would definitely make things too complicated, so I'm not opposed to assuming that the episode order is chronological.あざした (talk) 03:57, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
    • Thanks for your kind comments! My arguments/evidence is that in YJA S2 Episode 8, Kai says that it has been a year since the events of YJA S1 episode 18. So it is the year before. YJA S2 Episode 8 occurs the same year that LotJ epilogue, so this places YJA S1 Episodes 1-19 the year before the events of YJA S2 Episode 8. So far, Young Jedi Adventures (except for the shorts) does follow a chronological order. There is n reason to believe otherwise. I would be willing to make some compromise if Yoda appears in new episodesof the second half of YJA, but there is no reason to believe YJA does not occur chronologically when the show itself pretty much states it is.Marvelus (talk) 04:25, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
      • Hmmm, sorry, but I feel that you have not clearly provided any evidence for your assertion that YJA S2-8 and the LotJ epilogue are the same year. Also note that even if the same year is explicitly stated in the work, it does not mean that it is the same year in the ABY/BBY calendar. Each calendar system has a different reference point. Therefore, I do not believe that we are truncating the possibility of a 232 BBY to 231 BBY transition. (I also wanted to say that I enjoy watching YJA and know that they are basically in chronological order, but we have no clue about the independent episodes that do not have a clear back and forth relationship with other episodes, even if they were not in episode order.)あざした (talk) 15:03, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
        • Dropping in; Lew and I will be working on some logic here (rough at the moment, obviously) to tie together if anyone cares to add to it, and then I'll email Michael Olson or some of the directors Wook keeps on file. But I do want to point out that the upcoming Star Wars: The High Republic: The Lightsaber Collection does definitively frame YJA as chronological; still not enough to place YJA S2 necessarily firmly in the suggested years unless researched. For that, we do have to wait until the ref book's non-convention release due to policy, but still usable once it comes out.—spookywillowwtalk 20:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
  • There's certainly some room to argue that a lot of the earlier episodes need to be "c." to set them "around" 232 or 233 BBY rather than in either, but, the barrier to proof to set something definitively in one year is a pretty high barrier to meet onsite. The Life Day episodes specifically, as well as the other annual festival, are specific entries that are dateable; but as for episodes that don't themselves mention specific events, they then fall into the circa void. This of course is alleviated a little bit by when some characters first meet others (and then recognize them in a later episode), thus allowing us to assign chronology to some of the episodes in-universe; otherwise though, the only reason they're listed in release order like they are is simply because we don't know otherwise. Switching up some of the Appearances ordering is a bit more loose than the prose requirements; several of the changes above seem like they have merit to be explored (and a date template established for, like Template:RebelsDate or Template:TCWcanondates); but definite wary on assigning much in specific years unless there's more proof to be had, as it doesn't quite meet our general barrier to entry. And though a bit more loose than the prose requirements, even the apps list does need some sort of reason to be moving stuff around, so while some have good logic behind them, some marked as "no particular reason" don't really have any standing to base on for moving them. (Even if we know how old someone is in a film; we say c., since who's to say if their birthday is soon, thus landing in a different BBY? Unless its specifically [x] years old before [Battle of Yavin]. Same logic.)—spookywillowwtalk 04:17, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
    • I have watched all the episodes, and so far, they are all chronological order, the same way they are in release order. The timeline of the episodes is linear and there is no reason to believe they are not happening in chronological/release order. In this case, they are the same. My point is that YJA S1 Episode 18 is said in Episode 8 to have occur the year before. Since the show is in chronological order, Episodes 1-19 have to occur the year before Episode 8, which is set in 232 BBY. I believe there is a reason why Yoda just appeared in episode 4 of YJA S2 and why Bell appears without Loden. We are past LotJ in 232 BBY, after YJA S2 Episode 9 (Life Day), we are already looking at the year of 231 BBY. Is there something that could potentially hold back this change? Marvelus (talk) 04:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
      • Several of us have watched the episodes too. Essentially, what I was saying (and having conferred with some folk in the site Discord about this in a few conversations) is that there are definitely many changes that can be made as proposed. But there's also some logic here that is far too shaky for what we normally prefer, and since this would be a major change affecting hundreds of pages, "no particular reason" (the reason listed for season 2 episode 5) for sticking some of the episodes where they're at isn't really going to fly. I also want to reiterate that a lot of media on Wookieepedia is set a "circa" a year because we don't know the exact cutoff dates of the BBY years. For some episodes that could potentially land either at the very end of 233 BBY or the very start of 232 BBY, we leave that as "c." and don't definitively put it in one year. We do take context clues into account, but we also rely on LFL reasoning when we can, rather than one editor believing there must be a reason for something. So—tldr; yes, there is very much a lot that'll hold up this change. It'll be looked at and many will be moved in some form as suggested, but it'll be held up until we're able to take a look at what can be sourced to policy standard without assumption, as well as the date template creation. I do, unlike the other above, agree that it's mostly chronological, but this needs to be explained out in detail in the date template for as to why that is (context clues such as Chigg, Andraven, color of Kai's lightsaber, etc); we cannot assume that this is known, so the date template needs to specify all of these outright to build the case of the ordering, much like the TCW template did before Timelines made it obsolete. These context clues must be ones that are not "by omission" though (drawing connections not explicitly defined in source material is original research); the lack of something is not 1000% confirmation of the opposite, always, so character dialogue referencing past events is much more definable and unbiased. And finally, any—especially in S2—that could be on the border of the end of 232 BBY or the start of 231 BBY, aren't going to be placed in either year but rather "around [X BBY]," because we never do know the exact day of the cutoff.—spookywillowwtalk 04:41, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
        • Oh of course, I understand the necessity to place and date things as factually as possible (the one you point out for YJA S2 Episode 5 is one that I didn't expect to change, just put it my two cents out there). I understand that there are obviously major conversations to be had and I trust the Wookieepedia team completely. Thank your for explaining further your initial response. I am still very unfamiliar with the policies of this site. I would be glad to take part of the conversations when you and the rest of your team are able to look at it, if I am allowed. While I do agree some things cannot be placed factually like YJA S2 Episode 5, I do think 233 BBY makes the most sense for S1. I do hope S2 Part 2 doesn't mess up the timeline. So far, they have fit right. Marvelus (talk) 04:54, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Doctor Aphra Annual 2

Soo, I'm getting a "server returned error: HTTP 504" bs message error whenever I try to edit this. Would someone be so kind and edit the article to put the "Doctor Aphra Annual 2" a little bit higher? The article puts it after Doctor Aphra (2016) 31 but it clearly isn't the case.

The comic Doctor Aphra (2016) 27 has Nokk and Winloss (protagonists of Annual 2) refering to the events that happened in the annual and it even has the typical message of "Read about this story in Doctor Aphra Annual 2", so it couldn't happen after that. And much less between 19 and 26 as Aphra is imprisoned and then barely escapes during those comics.

The Annual 2 also mentions that Aphra is working for a crime syndicate (Son-tuul Pride) and that her boss is a homicidal maniac (Triple-Zero). She starts working for the syndicate in #14 and stops in #19, but in #15 she starts working in the important and long mission to retrieve Triple-Zero's memories, so I'm guessing the perfect spot for the annual 2 would be between 14 and 15.

Urgalak (talk) 09:29, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Jedi Temple Challenge

Why was Jedi Temple Challenge added? It's a game show.—Unsigned comment by WinkingMonk (talk • contribs)

As long as its media thats made in an official capacity, it gets added, as the bot uses this page to order the Appearances on articles. It doesn't matter so much what type of media it is necessarily, so game shows would be added.—spookywillowwtalk 01:52, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Split Entries

All entries should be ordered based on the beginning of the "main events." There should not be two entries for Dark Disciple, Kanan 3, and Kanan 11. Rebelcrimsonbear (talk) 20:04, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

  • Removed the second entry and added a note on the first Lewisr (talk) 04:17, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Novelizations in a different language

Junior Novelizations that are in another language should not be included or put in a separate list. This means the French novelizations on the list. Otherwise, might as well add in every book that gets translated into another language. —Unsigned comment by an anonymous user (contribs)

  • They are still listed because those books are unique and not just a one-to-one translation book with English counterpart. Hope this helps. Cheers! Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 09:30, 4 October 2025 (UTC)