Forum:CT:Top Template Eras

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The result of the debate was Keep the era fields and Support all proposed additions. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 22:08, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

This CT is a follow-up to Forum:SH:The Top Template and Canon Eras.

As mentioned in the above-linked Senate Hall thread, the StarWars.com page StarWars.com Star Wars Eras on StarWars.com (backup link) provides a source for the existence of multiple eras in the Canon continuity of Star Wars. Currently, the template {{Top}} has fields for the eras of the Legends continuity; however, it does not have them for Canon. This is primarily due to the fact that, until fairly recently, Canon did not have well-defined publishing eras.

The following Consensus Track thread covers the future of the era fields in the Top template, including whether or not they should continue to be in the template at all, and whether or not the Canon publishing eras should be added. Each Canon publishing era has an individual vote; this is due to the fact that the Dawn of the Jedi, Old Republic, and New Jedi Order eras in Canon, while established to exist, do not have any clearly defined content (this is not to say no existing content would fall within them, but we currently don't have explicit examples of such content beyond the upcoming Mangold and Obaid-Chinoy films for Dawn and NJO, respectively).

Each Canon publishing era proposed for the template also has a corresponding image that should be used in the same manner as the current Legends eras. If any of the Canon eras are implemented into the template, the documentation of {{Top}} will remove the "Legends only" clarification in the relevant section, and add subsections separating the field shortcuts for Canon and Legends.

Remove the era fields from {{Top}} entirely

This vote is regarding the removal of the era fields from {{Top}} in their entirety, as some may believe they no longer belong in the template. If this vote passes, all other votes in this Consensus Track thread automatically fail.

Support (Remove eras)

Oppose (Keep eras)

  1. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Rsand 30 (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 01:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 03:44, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. Very nice idea Panther436 RedNihilEye (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  6. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 07:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  7. Legends articles have era icons, and it's time for canon to do likewise. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 09:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  8. imo these icons should be used with reason on pages for non-narrative sources though Imperators II(Talk) 11:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  9. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  10. Rakhsh (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  11. 01miki10 Open comlink 13:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  12. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  13. Loki-Is-Cool Jedi symbol 16:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  14. Zed42 Wolfpack emblem (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  15. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 23:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  16. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
  17. Sanathestarr (talk) 16:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Add the Dawn of the Jedi

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Star Wars: Timelines does not provide a definitive range for the Dawn of the Jedi era. Timelines describes the time prior to the High Republic Era as occurring from c.26,000 BBY–501 BBY; this range must include both the Dawn of the Jedi and The Old Republic era as such, though it is not yet known where the Dawn of the Jedi era ends and The Old Republic era begins.
This vote is regarding the addition of the Dawn of the Jedi era to the template. This field would be enabled via the shortcut "dotj", and would utilize File:DawnofJediWhite.png as its icon. The icon will link to Dawn of the Jedi era.

Support (Add DotJ era)

  1. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Rsand 30 (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 03:46, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Panther436 RedNihilEye (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 07:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  6. I'd love to see more of Ahch-To. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 09:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  7. Imperators II(Talk) 11:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  9. Rakhsh (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  10. 01miki10 Open comlink 13:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  11. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  12. Loki-Is-Cool Jedi symbol 16:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  13. Zed42 Wolfpack emblem (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  14. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 23:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  15. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
  16. Sanathestarr (talk) 16:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose (Remove DotJ era)

Add The Old Republic

TORWhite

Star Wars: Timelines does not provide a definitive range for The Old Republic era. Timelines describes the time prior to the High Republic Era as occurring from c.26,000 BBY–501 BBY; this range must include both the Dawn of the Jedi and The Old Republic era as such, though it is not yet known where the Dawn of the Jedi era ends and The Old Republic era begins.
This vote is regarding the addition of The Old Republic era to the template. This field would be enabled via the shortcut "tor", and would utilize File:TORWhite.png as its icon. The icon will link to Old Republic-era.

Support (Add TOR era)

  1. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Rsand 30 (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 03:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 07:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. Hopefully SWTOR will keep running. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 09:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  6. Imperators II(Talk) 11:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  7. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  8. Rakhsh (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  9. 01miki10 Open comlink 13:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  10. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  11. Loki-Is-Cool Jedi symbol 16:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  12. Zed42 Wolfpack emblem (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  13. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 23:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  14. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
  15. Sanathestarr (talk) 16:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose (Remove TOR era)

Add The High Republic

HighRepublicBlack

For media between c. 500 BBY–100 BBY per Star Wars: Timelines
This vote is regarding the addition of The High Republic era to the template. This field would be enabled via the shortcut "thr", and would utilize File:HighRepublicBlack.png as its icon. The icon will link to High Republic Era.

Support (Add THR era)

  1. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Rsand 30 (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 03:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Panther436 RedNihilEye (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 07:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  6. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 09:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  7. Imperators II(Talk) 11:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  9. Rakhsh (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  10. 01miki10 Open comlink 13:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  11. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  12. Even more so than the earlier eras, as this era has a lot of canonical material and very little Legends material. Loki-Is-Cool Jedi symbol 16:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  13. Zed42 Wolfpack emblem (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  14. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 23:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  15. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
  16. Sanathestarr (talk) 16:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose (Remove THR era)

Add Fall of the Jedi

RepublicWhite

c. 100 BBY–19 BBY per Star Wars: Timelines
This vote is regarding the addition of the Fall of the Jedi era to the template. This field would be enabled via the shortcut "fotj", and would utilize File:RepublicWhite.png as its icon. The icon will link to Republic Era.

Support (Add FotJ era)

  1. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Rsand 30 (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 03:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Panther436 RedNihilEye (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 07:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  6. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 09:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  7. Imperators II(Talk) 11:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  9. Rakhsh (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  10. 01miki10 Open comlink 13:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  11. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  12. Loki-Is-Cool Jedi symbol 16:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  13. Zed42 Wolfpack emblem (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  14. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 23:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  15. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
  16. Sanathestarr (talk) 16:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose (Remove FotJ era)

Add Reign of the Empire

Imp roundel alt

18 BBY–1 BBY per Star Wars: Timelines
This vote is regarding the addition of the Reign of the Empire era to the template. This field would be enabled via the shortcut "rote", and would utilize File:Imp roundel alt.svg as its icon. The icon will link to Imperial Era.

Support (Add RotE era)

  1. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Rsand 30 (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 03:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Panther436 RedNihilEye (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 07:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  6. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 09:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  7. Imperators II(Talk) 11:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  9. Rakhsh (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  10. 01miki10 Open comlink 13:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  11. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  12. Loki-Is-Cool Jedi symbol 16:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  13. Zed42 Wolfpack emblem (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  14. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 23:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  15. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
  16. Sanathestarr (talk) 16:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose (Remove RotE era)

Add Age of Rebellion

BlackRebelStarbird

0–5 ABY per Star Wars: Timelines
This vote is regarding the addition of the Age of Rebellion era to the template. This field would be enabled via the shortcut "aor", and would utilize File:BlackRebelStarbird.png as its icon. The icon will link to Galactic Civil War.

Support (Add AoR era)

  1. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Rsand 30 (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 03:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Panther436 RedNihilEye (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 07:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  6. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 09:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  7. Imperators II(Talk) 11:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  9. Rakhsh (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  10. 01miki10 Open comlink 13:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  11. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  12. Loki-Is-Cool Jedi symbol 16:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  13. Zed42 Wolfpack emblem (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  14. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 23:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  15. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
  16. Sanathestarr (talk) 16:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose (Remove AoR era)

Add The New Republic

NewRepubWhite

6 ABY–27 ABY per Star Wars: Timelines
This vote is regarding the addition of The New Republic era to the template. This field would be enabled via the shortcut "tnr", and would utilize File:NewRepubWhite.png as its icon. The icon will link to New Republic Era.

Support (Add TNR era)

  1. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Rsand 30 (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 03:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Panther436 RedNihilEye (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 07:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  6. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 09:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  7. Imperators II(Talk) 11:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  9. Rakhsh (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  10. 01miki10 Open comlink 13:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  11. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  12. Loki-Is-Cool Jedi symbol 16:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  13. Zed42 Wolfpack emblem (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  14. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 23:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  15. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
  16. Sanathestarr (talk) 16:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose (Remove TNR era)

Add Rise of the First Order

FirstOrderWhite

28 ABY–35 ABY per Star Wars: Timelines
This vote is regarding the addition of the Rise of the First Order era to the template. This field would be enabled via the shortcut "rofo", and would utilize File:FirstOrderWhite.png as its icon. The icon will link to First Order-Resistance War.

Support (Add RotFO era)

  1. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Rsand 30 (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 03:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Panther436 RedNihilEye (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 07:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  6. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 09:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  7. Imperators II(Talk) 11:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  9. Rakhsh (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  10. 01miki10 Open comlink 13:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  11. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  12. This era exists only in canon, so it definitely needs a top template. Loki-Is-Cool Jedi symbol 16:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  13. Zed42 Wolfpack emblem (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  14. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 23:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  15. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
  16. Sanathestarr (talk) 16:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose (Remove RotFO era)

Add New Jedi Order

NJOWhite

Star Wars: Timelines does not provide a definitive range for the New Jedi Order era. However, as it is the only confirmed era to follow the Rise of the First Order era ending in 35 ABY, it can be extrapolated that media taking place from 36 ABY onwards would fall within this era.
This vote is regarding the addition of the New Jedi Order era to the template. This field would be enabled via the shortcut "cnjo", and would utilize File:NJOWhite.png as its icon. The icon will link to New Jedi Order Era.

Support (Add NJO era)

  1. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 23:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Rsand 30 (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 03:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Panther436 RedNihilEye (talk) 04:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 07:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  6. OOM 224 (he/him/they) 09:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  7. Imperators II(Talk) 11:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 12:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  9. Rakhsh (talk) 12:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  10. 01miki10 Open comlink 13:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  11. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 16:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  12. Loki-Is-Cool Jedi symbol 16:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  13. Zed42 Wolfpack emblem (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  14. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 23:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  15. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
  16. Sanathestarr (talk) 16:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose (Remove NJO era)

Discuss

  • I suggest that same parameters shouldn't be used for both continuities. Would be much simpler from coding perspective. 01miki10 Open comlink 13:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Agreed, could someone create different top templates for canon and Legends, or is that too much of a hassle from the coding side of things. I'm not very code-savvy to say the least so I don't know what's best for that area. Loki-Is-Cool Jedi symbol 16:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
      • Would say it'd ideally be just different parameters in the same Top template per continuity. Every article uses the same Top template (both IU and OOU) and separating that would imo cause a lot of unnecessary inconsistency.—spookywillowwtalk 20:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
        • At this point they've all been changed to reflect the acronym of each era's name anyway. The only one that's still somewhat shared is "njo" which has the "c" prefix ("cnjo") before it. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 20:35, 7 July 2024 (UTC)