Forum:CT:Notability amendment for musical themes

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The result of the debate was support proposal. Tommy-Macaroni 16:51, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Way back in 2008, I joined the wiki and immediately began creating articles on every track on the Star Wars soundtracks. This was quickly deemed unnecessary by the community, and it was decided that only musical themes should get articles. This was never codified in policy, however, and so now I would like to finally make that happen. So, I'm proposing a new "Musical themes and motifs" section in the notability policy that reads as follows:

Musical themes and motifs may only be granted articles if they meet at least one of the following criteria:

  • They appear multiple times within a piece of media spread out between multiple scenes, or in multiple pieces of media, and are connected to a single subject (Example: Shmi's motif),
  • They are specifically named, such as in the footer notes of a soundtrack booklet, sheet music book, or other official source (Example: "The Arena") (Note that some tracks also have pages in sheet music books but should still only receive articles if they represent a single composition), or
  • They are composed as a concert suite that is included in official media (Example: "Duel of the Fates").

Note that articles are not to be granted to individual tracks on soundtracks. If a track shares a name with a musical theme, such as "The Imperial March" on the soundtrack for Star Wars: Episode V The Empire Strikes Back, the article is based on the musical piece, not the track on the album. Motifs that are not specific to Star Wars but that are included in Star Wars music also do not receive articles, and mentions of these motifs should instead link to their Wikipedia article (Example: "Dies irae").

Support

  1. As author of the proposal. MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 16:51, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. OOM 224 ༼༽talk༼༽ 16:55, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. 01miki10 Open comlink 17:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  4. Cwedin(talk) 17:03, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  5. As supporter of the proposal. JediMasterMacaroniAdmiral Ackbar RH(Talk) 17:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  6. Makes sense to me, and Fred is the maestro so I trust that this is the right direction to go in. Nice work. Tommy-Macaroni 17:13, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  7. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 17:33, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  8. Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 17:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  9. Ayrehead02 (talk) 17:38, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  10. Tracks are official divisions of these albums that are released, I see little reason for them to not be granted their own articles. Though, I feel it should be stated that these tracks are also often mastered to the point that they are not always the same as the versions present in the films, so a way of mentioning this in these potential articles should be considered. - DFaceG (talk) 17:38, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  11. NanoLuukeCloning facility 17:43, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  12. IFYLOFD (Talk) 17:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  13. VergenceScatter (talk) 18:03, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  14. Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:34, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  15. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 19:43, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  16. Zed42 (talk) 19:48, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  17. 1358 (Talk) 19:51, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  18. Braha'tok enthusiast (Hello there) 20:56, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  19. --Vitus InfinitusTalk 21:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  20. RattsT (talk) 21:18, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  21. Imperators II(Talk) 21:50, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  22. As supporter of the supporters of this proposal. Serious note though, this is a good idea. Supreme Emperor (talk) 22:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  23. Wok142 (talk) 00:49, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  24. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 01:04, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  25. Per Tommy ThatNerdWhoEditsWikis[talk] 06:03, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  26. Lewisr (talk) 23:44, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
  27. Potsk (talk) 04:58, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
  28. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 05:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

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