Forum:CT:Neutral votes on RFUR and RFRUR

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The result of the debate was Support proposal. Immi Thrax RainbowRebellion2 (she/her) 18:07, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

For those unaware, neutral votes on Wookieepedia:Requests for user rights (RFU/RFUR) and Wookieepedia:Requests for removal of user rights (RFRUR) count when tallying votes, essentially making neutral votes count as opposing votes. Forum:SH:Neutral votes on WP:RFUR has some reasoning and discussion around this. Seeing as the overall opinion believes that neutral votes either should not exist, or should not be counted toward the total, I'm bringing this to a vote. 1358 (Talk) 17:59, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Vote 1

  • Support = this option abolishes the Neutral voting sections on RFUR and RFRUR votes. Only Support and Oppose votes can be cast. People who don't wish to vote or are not eligible can leave comments in the Comments section.
  • Oppose = status quo. The Neutral voting section on RFRU and RFRUR continues to exist. People who are not eligible can leave comments in the Comments section.

Support

  1. I don't think neutral votes have any role in these votes. If you're not absolutely sure that someone is a good candidate for additional user rights, you shouldn't be supporting them, IMO. If you just want to provide additional reasoning as to why you're not participating, just use the Comments section. 1358 (Talk) 17:59, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  2. OOM 224 18:01, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  3. Per ecks. If you don't support someone's candidacy you should vote oppose. VergenceScatter (talk) 18:06, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  4. the only thing the neutral votes do is confuse users unfamiliar with it's purpose (speaking from experience lol). don't need it BloodOfIrizi Sabine Starbird (talk) 18:09, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  5. Imperators II(Talk) 18:16, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  6. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 18:16, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  7. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:29, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  8. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:31, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  9. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 19:51, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  10. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 19:59, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  11. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 20:02, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  12. —spookywillowwtalk 20:22, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  13. Wok142 (talk) 21:45, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  14. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 00:19, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  15. Dropbearemma (she/her) 01:29, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  16. MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 04:29, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  17. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 04:50, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  18. They're just kind of... pointless? - DFaceG (talk) 07:36, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  19. Rsand 30 (talk) 12:30, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
    Per ecks and vergence. Fan26 (Talk) 15:36, 22 October 2022 (UTC) (Vote struck, reason: Per policy: Blocked user -- OOM 224 07:32, 2 November 2022 (UTC))
  20. Sometimes life boils down to having to choose between a blue or red pill. Andykatib 06:34, 23 October 2022 (UTC0
  21. Samonic Signatureicon (Talk) 10:26, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
  22. SaintSirNicholas (talk) 20:02, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
  23. Jarhead002 (talk) 21:20, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
  24. LucaRoR Sigil of House Serenno (Talk) 10:10, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. I'd rather keep them around, and untallied as an option to express neutrality. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 18:13, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  2. 01miki10 Open comlink 18:35, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  3. Per Braha NBDani TeamFireballLogo-ColliderYeager's Repairs 18:46, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  4. Immi Thrax RainbowRebellion2 (she/her) (talk) 05:13, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
  5. ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 15:09, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Discussion

Vote 2

This vote is only valid if vote 1 does not pass.

  • Support = neutral votes do not count when tallying the votes for the required vote majorities on RFUR and RFRUR
  • Oppose = status quo. Neutral votes are counted when tallying the votes for the required vote majorities on RFUR and RFRUR.

Support

  1. While I think this essay on Meta-Wiki raises some good points in favor of neutral votes being counted, I think the voting option is ultimately misleading if it counts towards the opposing side. 1358 (Talk) 17:59, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  2. OOM 224 18:01, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  3. 01miki10 Open comlink 18:04, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  4. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 18:13, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  5. BloodOfIrizi Sabine Starbird (talk) 18:14, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  6. Imperators II(Talk) 18:16, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  7. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 18:16, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  8. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 18:23, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  9. Ayrehead02 (talk) 18:29, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  10. NBDani TeamFireballLogo-ColliderYeager's Repairs 18:47, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  11. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 19:51, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  12. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 19:59, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  13. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 20:02, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  14. —spookywillowwtalk 20:22, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
  15. Dropbearemma (she/her) 01:29, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  16. MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 04:29, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  17. DFaceG (talk) 07:36, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  18. Rsand 30 (talk) 12:30, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  19. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 20:23, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  20. Andykatib 06:35, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  21. Immi Thrax RainbowRebellion2 (she/her) (talk) 05:13, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
  22. Samonic Signatureicon (Talk) 10:26, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
  23. Jarhead002 (talk) 21:20, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
  24. ThrawnChiss7 (talk) 15:09, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
  25. LucaRoR Sigil of House Serenno (Talk) 10:10, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Per my vote above, I'm not a fan of neutral existing; however, I think that the vote tally should count every vote that is cast. VergenceScatter (talk) 18:08, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Discussion