Forum:CT:Excerpt clean-up

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The result of the debate was Support. —spookywillowwtalk 00:34, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
Following Forum:CT:Copyright page overhaul, I have gone through a couple dozen or so articles that used the {{Excerpt}} template box. It's got the notoriously bulky copyright text and author+source information and was intended for use on talk page and forum discussions, rather than articles themselves, where it breaks the rule of keeping to an in-universe point of view.
Across the mainspace, I have either replaced it with {{ExcerptIU}}, which is basically the same template without the out-of-universe information, or converted them to the standard {{Quote}} template in the case of short excerpts. The separate templates will allow us to continue keeping track of their usage via Special:WhatLinksHere.
A few examples of the new ExceptIU template box in action can be seen on: SWTOR in-game mail from Darth Serevin, the Ballad of Cham Syndulla, and the message in Leia Organa's keepsake chest.
To conclude the clean-up, here's a wee proposal amending how we treat excerpts with a couple quick policy additions that will codify existing usage of excerpts while keeping them consistent with the rest of our policies.

Under Wookieepedia:Layout Guide#Quotes, add the following bullet point and place it just above the last point ("For formatting rules, refer to the Quotes section of the Manual of Style"):

"*The {{Quote}} template should be used as standard. The {{ExcerptIU}} template box should be used sparingly to accomodate lengthy quotations that are necessary to provide readers a sense of an excerpt's literary qualities or complex formatting. These could include lengthy poems and song lyrics or significant documents and speeches that are directly relevant to the article topic."

Also, given the removal of the source field, I also propose to change the bullet for excerpts under Wookieepedia:Sourcing#Exceptions from this: "Verbatim excerpts using the {{Excerpt}} template require a source, but not a separate reference" to: "Verbatim excerpts using the {{ExcerptIU}} template box requires referencing in the attribution line only."

Support

  1. OOM 224 19:13, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
  2. Imperators II(Talk) 20:24, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
  3. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 20:26, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
  4. NBDani TeamFireballLogo-Collider(they/them)Yeager's Repairs 20:28, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
  5. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 21:01, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
  6. —spookywillowwtalk 00:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
  7. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 07:09, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
  8. --Vitus InfinitusTalk 13:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
  9. Wok142 (talk) 18:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
  10. ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 18:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
  11. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:04, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
  12. ThePedantry (talk) 09:05, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
  13. — Commandant Bhatoa (talk) 20:32, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Oppose

Discuss

Source: Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones Attribution: A very improper use of the Excerpt template, by OOM 224 19:13, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
It's-a clear desa Excerpts made a pact wesa desa Violators du Copyright. Senators! Dellow felegates! In response to this direct threat to policy, mesa propose that the Senate give immediately emergency votes to the Consensus Track!
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