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Limmie
Can Team Earth compete with these guys?
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"Nuuunnnnnnaaaaa!"
"Marv, that's the wrong sport."
"Do you think anyone else on Coruscant knew that?"
—Two Holonet News sportscasters

Okay, team! We can take these guys. Coruscant has just as bad of a team this year as they did when we beat them on their home field. Mark the date, men (and ladies): Saturday, 8 January 2011 at 7 PM EST (not East-sea Shawken Time, folks). We're going to trample them at our house! None of those rogues are going to get away from us this time. This match is the second in our series of the-second-Saturday-of-every-month meetings, so be ready for all the madness!

Notice. The meeting has been postponed because of insufficient attendance. Rescheduled date TBD. Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:33, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Meeting rescheduled for Saturday, January 15 at 7 PM EST. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:29, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Team Coruscant

Veterans

Probed articles from Meeting 37

Probed articles from Meeting 38

Rookies (or is it Rookiees?)

Expand as needed.

  • Xamuel Lennox — update needed
  • CC-5052 — update needed
    • I simply cannot find any new info on him or even an appearance. Until someone proves otherwise, the update tag has been removed. CC7567 (talk) 09:21, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
      • Finally found the info, so the article has been updated. CC7567 (talk) 18:13, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • Yoxgit — update needed
  • 501st Legion — update needed
  • Darth Stryfe — update needed
    • Updated. Grunny (talk) 10:13, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • Conan Antonio Motti — update needed
  • Darth Caedus — update needed
  • Wat Tambor — update needed
  • Darth Nihl — update needed
  • Tian Chyler — update needed
  • Jaina Solo — update needed
  • Shu Mai — {{fact}} tag
    • Added source. Somebody might want to slot that sentence in somewhere else rather than leaving it as a short paragraph. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:48, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
      • Merged that last short sentence in with the paragraph before it. Trak Nar Ramble on 04:13, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
  • Zam Wesell (see here)
    • I added it to this list for completeness, but I fixed it a couple of days ago. — Fiolli; 17:47, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
  • Darth Bane (see here)
    • I have given the article a cleanup, and everything seems to be in working order. I do, however, disagree that an equipment section is needed. If the Inq determines that an equipment section is needed, I will add one, but I do not see the necessity. Chack Jadson (Talk) 23:39, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Battle of the Rishi moon — "in use" for over three months. Green Tentacle (Talk) 17:55, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
    • bah, sorry. It's been fixed. JangFett (Talk) 18:05, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • Glurrg — intro redlink; however, one could probably remove it if the source simply says "at least three millenia". 1358 (Talk) 21:28, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
    • The source implies it was 3000 years before the Invasion of Naboo, so 3032 BBY. That year article was deleted by Toprawa for being unverified; the source is Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds. Year article re-created and sourced. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 15:45, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • Arca Jeth — intro redlink. 1358 (Talk) 21:32, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
    • On a closer look, it needs a general cleanup — linking and context on things need to be checked. Just start reading the bio and you'll see what I mean. Even Jeth himself comes completely out of the blue. 1358 (Talk) 21:55, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
      • Redlink is gone, although I'm doublechecking the year. –Tm_T (Talk) 10:17, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • Amanoa — intro redlink. 1358 (Talk) 21:32, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
    • Unable to find a source for that year, so it was reworked to not include such a specific number. Addressed, and I'll comb over sometime soon to make sure everything else is sound.—Tommy 9281 18:35, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • Arbra - BTS is really lacking, based on old 2007 article standards. The intro, too, probably wouldn't hurt from a general beefing up. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:53, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
    • I removed speculation from the BTS, which means that now it needs even more expanding. :P Also, the sole remaining sentence in the BTS needs to be sourced. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 00:01, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
    • The more one looks closer at the article, the more the overall lack of detail becomes evident. The Description section alone is in need of an expansion/update from new Atlas geographical information, but I feel the entire article as a whole would benefit from a general beefing up. Sorry to keep beating a dead horse when I refer to "2007-era detail." Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:01, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • Second Battle of Borleias (Yuuzhan Vong War) — Pre-Inq FA with numerous issues. Among them:
    • Fails the battle LG. (This was actually objected to during the last review, but the article was kept despite it not being fixed properly.)
    • "Additionally, other familiar tactics such as yammosk jamming, stutter firing, and Jedi shadow bombs were also employed." This could probably be expanded on (I say "probably" because I haven't read the books in a long time).
    • The prelude and aftermath sections seem painfully short compared to the rest of the article and probably should be expanded.
    • "Due to Borleias' proximity to Coruscant (or Yuuzhan'tar, as it was now called)," The parentheses need to die a slow and painful death.
    • "The Second Battle of Borleias was mentioned several times in later New Jedi Order books"; "References in other works have also been made to Battle of Borleias, an in-universe documentary produced by Wolam Tser about the course of the battle.": These BTS statements are unreferenced and not self-sourcing.
    • Many paragraphs under "Arrival of Czulkang Lah" and especially "Second offensive" are extremely short and should probably be merged with each other.
    And that just what I uncovered with a quick scan through the article. There's probably several more issues not listed above. Master Jonathan New Jedi Order (Jedi Council Chambers) 23:53, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Form V: Shien / Djem So—someone recently went through the article and made a horde of revisions that separate the article from its FA-status state. The changes should get reverted or at least be reviewed somehow, though I'm not sure in what manner we would do it. CC7567 (talk) 08:50, January 15, 2011 (UTC)
    • I'm glad you brought this up, because I was about to do the same. It doesn't seem to me that the article is even really being maintained by anyone anymore. This probably deserves some kind of deeper consideration as to what to do with this thing. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:26, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Post-game press conference

Expand as needed.

  • The Triage page. Do we really need it anymore? Does it really still serve any vital purpose? It was created as a sort of emergency measure to help the Inq better handle the nominations when the page total was at 60, but we've pretty much moved past that era with the since-revised FAN page voting procedure. It seems to me that many people practically ignore the page now as non-essential. A discussion to consider removing it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:52, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Team Earth

Starters

  1. I guess I'll be a midfielder again. — Fiolli; 17:44, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Awesome. Toprawa and Ralltiir 04:26, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  3. I call shortstop! IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 04:50, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 21:18, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
    • Might be a little late as well. If that happens, Toprawa has my vote until I arrive. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research (Comlink) 15:35, January 15, 2011 (UTC)
  5. My other function got rescheduled, so I should be there, though I might be a little late. If I am, my vote lies with Toprawa. CC7567 (talk) 08:30, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Benchwarmers (or those suspended by Darth Real-life)

  1. Darth Real-life sucks. There is a small chance I'll make it, but right now it's looking like a no. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 04:38, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, I'm out of town from the 11th to the 16th, and I have no guarantee of internet access at the newly appointed time. I'll update my notes accordingly before the meeting, to account for any changes that may have been made to the articles since I left them. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 22:35, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
    Sorry, guys; life is being bitchy to me right now. My notes are below. CC7567 (talk) 09:21, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Probably not. Grunny (talk) 13:26, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Darth Real-life is the only Sith by whom I can be defeated. I will leave notes.—Tommy 9281 14:08, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
  4. More drinking. - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 14:02, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Fan complaints

  • I'm hoping that everything that needed to be done for Zuckuss and 4-LOM has been done. Their Appearances lists have been fleshed out and finished off, I can go through with yet another copy-edit for the new year tonight, tweak wording to hell and back, make double sure that every section is where it should be, hunt down any POV that might be hiding... Let them pass this meeting, I dunno what else would need to be done. I checked my latest Insider, nothing mentioned of them. I checked the Insider interview special, no interviews with their actors. The third volume of "A Long Time Ago...." omnibus isn't out yet (else I would've bought it tonight and had it ready to go for any checking), I can double-check stuff from Yavin Vassilika and SotE yet again if need be... They should (hopefully) be good to pass. If not... I'll tackle anything else that needs to be done after I bang my head against the desk. Trak Nar Ramble on 04:46, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
    • Just finished tackling some stuff Tope pointed out to me for Zuckuss, and finished off the proper SotE references for 4-LOM, sourced four(!) unsourced paragraphs in his article a few days ago, and tackled niggly bits of formatting for both. Oh, I hope they make the cut... Trak Nar Ramble on 22:24, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Holonet Broadcast (Minutes)

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The clone
  • Kill: Gotal (I'll leave it to those at the meeting to give the final say on this, but that load of redlinks still needs to be killed), Evir Derricote (someone still needs to clean up those succession boxes), Flint
  • Keep: Zuckuss, 4-LOM, Battle of Christophsis, Wat Tambor (Menkooroo fixed it), Wes Janson, Motti
  • Abstain: I'm abstaining on Morseerian and Saelt-Marae and leaving it up to those at the meeting, as I can't figure out whether the issues have been resolved; it'll probably be better to discuss both.
  • Probe: Xamuel Lennox, Yoxgit, 501st, Darth Nihl, Tian Chyler, Glurrg, Amanoa, Arbra, Second Battle of Borleias (Yuuzhan Vong War), Jaina Solo (per Jon's reasoning below)
  • Spare: CC-5052 (see above), Darth Stryfe, Darth Caedus, Shu Mai, Battle of the Rishi moon, Zam Wesell, Darth Bane, Arca Jeth
  • CC7567 (talk) 09:21, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
  1. Jujiggum
    • Kill: Gotal (there are POV issues, lopsided paragraph/section sizes, intro is way too short, and there are a ton of redlinks), Flint
    • Keep: Zuckuss, 4-LOM, Battle of Christophsis, Wat Tambor, Evir Derricote (This appears to have been fixed, although I could be overlooking something), Wes Janson, Saelt-Marae (judging by the comments on the review page, the issue no longer applies), Morseerian (sounds to me like there's nothing really wrong), Conan Antonio Motti
    • Probe: Xamuel Lennox, Yoxgit, 501st, Tian Chyler, Jaina Solo (some factual mistakes and incorrect chronology in the Vortex update), Arbra, Second Battle of Borleias (Yuuzhan Vong War)
    • Spare: CC-5052, Darth Stryfe, Darth Caedus, Darth Nihl, Shu Mai, Zam Wessel, Darth Bane, Battle of the Rishi moon, Glurrg (Ataru got it), Arca Jeth, Amanoa, Form V: Shien / Djem So (semi-reluctantly; I'd rather just have someone more familiar with the article check the changes and revert them if need be, or give them the OK)
    • Post-game press conference: I vote to kill the triage. It doesn't tell us anything really useful that we can't already glean from a single look at the FAN page. At this point, the only thing it tells us that the FAN doesn't is page size in KB. Does that really warrant its usage? Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 21:52, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
    • Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 16:58, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Twin:
    • Kill: Gotal, Flint
    • Keep: Zuckuss, 4-LOM, Evir, Battle of Christophsis, Wat Tambor, Wes Janson, Saelt-Marae, Morseerian & Motti
    • Probe: Xamuel Lennox, Yoxgit, 501st, Tian Chyler, Arbra, Second Battle of Borleias
    • Spare: CC-5052, Darth Stryfe, Darth Caedus, Darth Nihl, Jaina, Shu Mai, Zam Wessel, Darth Bane, Battle of the Rishi moon, Glurrg, Arca Jeth—because I am working on it, Amanoa.
    • I guess we can do away with the triage for now. Things seem to be currently under wraps.—Tommy 9281 22:55, January 14, 2011 (UTC)
  1. Gruns:
    • Keep: Zuckuss, 4-LOM, Evir Derricote, Battle of Christophsis, Wat Tambor, Wes Janson, Saelt-Marae, Morseerian, Conan Antonio Motti
    • Kill: Gotal, Flint
    • Probe: Jaina Solo (per Jon's reasoning), Xamuel Lennox, Yoxgit, 501st, Tian Chyler, Arbra, Second Battle of Borleias
    • Spare: CC-5052, Darth Stryfe, Darth Caedus, Darth Nihl, Shu Mai, Zam Wessel, Darth Bane, Battle of the Rishi moon, Glurrg, Arca Jeth, Amanoa
    • Kill the Triage. Grunny (talk) 08:35, January 15, 2011 (UTC)
  1. Cav:
    • Kill: Gotal, Flint
    • Keep: Zuckuss, 4-LOM, Derricote, Battle of Christophsis, Tambor, Janson, Saelt-Marae, Morseerian, Motti
    • Probe: Lennox, Yoxgit, 501st, Chyler, Jaina, Arbra, Second Battle of Borleias, Form V
    • Spare: CC-5052, Stryfe, Caedus, Nihl, Shu Mai, Zam Wessel, Bane, Battle of the Rishi moon, Glurrg, Arca Jeth, Amanoa
    • Kill: Triage - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 14:02, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

*Real* minutes

Attendance

Articles that lost their FA status

Articles that kept their FA status

Articles that were granted extended probation

Articles that were put on probation

Articles that escaped probation

  • Agreed to kill the Triage.
  • Agreed to adjust the FA queue so that there is one FA for every two days on the Main Page, starting April 2.
  • Agreed to create a table on the meeting pages for absentee votes.
  • Xd1358 admitted to the Inquisitorius.
  • Log