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Pyn'gani
- Nominated by: Clone Commander Lee Talk 18:38, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: Never done a species before...
(3 ACs/3 Users/6 Total)
Support
Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 17:30, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
--Eyrezer 00:51, August 14, 2010 (UTC)- Menkooroo 03:59, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
- The most annoying native race in EAW, as proven by my failed vehicle rushes :(. Had to spend ages taking them out from the air. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 04:59, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Redlink! -- 1358 (Talk) 05:34, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
CC7567 (talk) 20:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
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Eyrezer
- Nice to see you undertaking a species.
Could you add a Biology and appearance section? You could model it on Arhan, i.e., the WEG description of what constitutes a Near-Human, and include a description of the skin color of the man in the infobox, etc.- Added.
- In the B&A you should also include the info about their ability to resist the cold. That is a biological characteristic that differentiates them from Humans. By the way, are they identified somewhere as Near-Humans? I see the CSWE just calls them aliens. --Eyrezer 22:15, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Added the first part. The second part is stated in EaW and in the guide.
- In the B&A you should also include the info about their ability to resist the cold. That is a biological characteristic that differentiates them from Humans. By the way, are they identified somewhere as Near-Humans? I see the CSWE just calls them aliens. --Eyrezer 22:15, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Added.
Is there anymore information you an add about Anno Wen-Chii. Again, Arhan might provide a model of the amount of detail to include for a member of the subject species. Wen-Chii could also be mentioned in the intro.- Added all we know about him.
Also, I gather the game depicts Pyn'gani buildings/structures. They might be a more appropriate body image than the current shot of their homeworld, already aptly used for your Polus article --Eyrezer 07:16, July 19, 2010 (UTC)- Added the structure part, but for Polus we only have one other picture. Thanks for your review. Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:13, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have access to the game? Can you get another screenshot? It would also allow for some more detailed description of their structures. --Eyrezer 22:15, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
- I have access but won't be able to get a screenshot (technical problems). And about the structure: we don't know more. Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:39, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have access to the game? Can you get another screenshot? It would also allow for some more detailed description of their structures. --Eyrezer 22:15, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Added the structure part, but for Polus we only have one other picture. Thanks for your review. Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:13, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
Could you add something to the S&C section about their attaire? This can be obtained from the infobox image.- Added.
Is it possible to add any more to the history section from the events of the game? Were their battles/events that occurred there? Did the Zann Consortium have a presence there, etc? For instance, I gather the Zann Consortium could enslvae the species. If it is unclear whether this happened canonically, you could include the information in the History section surrounded by (Gamemechanics) template to indicate its disputed status.- Added. Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:30, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
- This feels very bare bones and scant on detail. Please add more, including context on who the Zann Consotrium is, etc. --Eyrezer 01:38, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
- Expanded it a little bit, we don't know more.
- This feels very bare bones and scant on detail. Please add more, including context on who the Zann Consotrium is, etc. --Eyrezer 01:38, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
- Added. Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:30, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
A previous version of the article also indicates the Pyn'gani use some sort of carbonite firearms. This should also be detailed in the S&C section if it is correct. --Eyrezer 02:05, July 26, 2010 (UTC)- No source states that. Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:14, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
- What about the gameplay itself? --Eyrezer 23:04, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Darth Culator has provided info from FOC's XML. The Pyn'gani weapon is called "Proj_Pyngani_Carbonite_Gun" in PROJECTILES.XML and has Projectile_Stun_On_Detonation=yes and Damage_Type=Damage_Blaster_Hand making it a blaster-style weapon with a stun effect. Can you please detail this information in either the S&C or History section? --Eyrezer 02:20, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
- I'll check this after fixing the objections on Polus today. Clone Commander Lee Talk 08:23, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Added. Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:23, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
- I'll check this after fixing the objections on Polus today. Clone Commander Lee Talk 08:23, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Darth Culator has provided info from FOC's XML. The Pyn'gani weapon is called "Proj_Pyngani_Carbonite_Gun" in PROJECTILES.XML and has Projectile_Stun_On_Detonation=yes and Damage_Type=Damage_Blaster_Hand making it a blaster-style weapon with a stun effect. Can you please detail this information in either the S&C or History section? --Eyrezer 02:20, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
- What about the gameplay itself? --Eyrezer 23:04, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
- No source states that. Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:14, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
Jujiggum
Same objection as here and here.- Fixed.
"Wen-Chii rested on Polus hoping to learn more about how life evolved in the galaxy." Are you sure that "rested" is the right word here? It doesn't seem to make sense. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 23:34, July 20, 2010 (UTC)- Meh, spelling error. Thanks for your review. Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:20, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
Just one more thing: are you sure it's not POV to state that Wen-Chii was famous? Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 17:24, July 21, 2010 (UTC)- Changed to "notable". Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:27, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm, still kinda sounded POVish (i.e. notable by what standards; and in whose opinion?), so I just went ahead and removed it. However, if the source actually does state that he was notable, feel free to put it back in. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 17:30, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Changed to "notable". Clone Commander Lee Talk 17:27, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
Soresu
In English, the correct spelling for "iglu" is igloo. Also, can you prove that that they were made of ice? It looks kinda cosy in that shield. If not, "domed structures" would be a more general term, as Igloo is also OOU.- Fixed.
Does that heat shield double as a deflector shield?- We only know that they used heat generators, not what they are.
- Sorry, I meant the shield generator in the image. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 05:13, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed.
- Sorry, I meant the shield generator in the image. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is the truth) 05:13, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
- We only know that they used heat generators, not what they are.
By the period of the Galactic Empire, the Pyn'gani had played a major role in developing the carbonite freezing process used to store goods for long-term shipment. Mining the valuable metal was a major source of income for them by 0 BBY. Is there a reason why this is placed after the GameCompletion bit, if this occurs "by 0 BBY", while the latter occurs "in 0 BBY"?SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 01:06, August 15, 2010 (UTC)- Fixed. Thanks for your review. Clone Commander Lee Talk 09:45, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
It is a little presumptuous to say that it "stuns" people (At least, I don't recall the term being used in game). Also, I'm pretty sure it can disable vehicles. Maybe something like "able to disable both biological and mechanical targets" would be more appropriate?SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 05:13, August 16, 2010 (UTC)- Fixed. Clone Commander Lee Talk 11:57, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
- If I can interject here, the game files for the weapon has Projectile_Stun_On_Detonation=yes. Therefore, stun is a perfectly appropriate term to use. --Eyrezer 05:15, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed. Clone Commander Lee Talk 11:57, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
Xd'1358
"The Pyn'gani played a major role in creating carbon freezing, and mining produced a large proportion of the income for Polus." How are there two facts related to each other? Please split.- Fixed.
Mention their sentience in the body.- Added.
"The reclusive Master brought his Padawan Nalia Adollu back to Polus that year,[2] where he resided for a time hoping to learn more about how life evolved in the galaxy. Who resided there, the master or Adollu?- Fixed.
"'...raided the planet..." Is there an article on this raid?- No because we know nothing about this raids.
- -- 1358 (Talk) 16:05, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. Clone Commander Lee Talk 19:37, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
Comments
Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 20:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)