Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/New Holgha

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New Holgha

  • Nominated by: OtterSurf (talk) 12:58, March 27, 2020 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments:

(3 ACs/2 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 12:22, April 20, 2020 (UTC)
  2. UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 18:14, April 22, 2020 (UTC)
  3. ACvote 1358 (Talk) 15:05, May 9, 2020 (UTC)
  4. ACvote Tommy-Macaroni 19:45, May 11, 2020 (UTC)
  5. 01miki10 Open comlink 19:46, May 11, 2020 (UTC)

Object

Imp
  • You should know by now what has to be done with the Online Companion reference. Imperators II(Talk) 06:53, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
    • Can you please explain that? OtterSurf (talk) 18:29, April 18, 2020 (UTC)
    • Nevermind, figured it out. OtterSurf (talk) 18:34, April 18, 2020 (UTC)
      • No, you didn't. Please take a look at what was done with the Online Companion reference on your previously nominated article, Pedd Four. Same goes for The Essential Atlas reference. And for the record, that does not mean you should have switched the Atlas under Sources for the Online Companion. Change that back. Imperators II(Talk) 19:41, April 18, 2020 (UTC)
  • Does the Atlas mention New Holgha in text, other than on the maps or in the Appendix? Imperators II(Talk) 06:53, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
  • Single list items in infoboxes don't get bullet points. Imperators II(Talk) 06:53, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
  • Please add the fact that New Holgha was a terrestrial planet to the infobox, body, and categories. Imperators II(Talk) 06:53, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
  • The respective image category should added. Imperators II(Talk) 06:53, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
  • Does the ebook explicitly provide the 25 ABY date? Imperators II(Talk) 06:53, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
  • Please split up the History section into several paragraphs. Imperators II(Talk) 06:53, April 17, 2020 (UTC)
  • What you did with the CSWE under Sources was wrong; change that back. Imperators II(Talk) 19:41, April 18, 2020 (UTC)
  • The presence of a garrison implies a New Republic affiliation for the planet. Imperators II(Talk) 11:48, April 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • Our article on New Holghan states they were Human. Is this true? Imperators II(Talk) 11:48, April 19, 2020 (UTC)
    • It's never stated what species the New Holghans are. They're just referred to as "people". OtterSurf (talk) 17:46, April 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • Last sentence of History should be reworked to only describe the Shirb system as New Holgha itself is not mentioned in the Atlas. Imperators II(Talk) 11:48, April 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • Please create Inhabitants and Locations sections. If any additional quotes are available, add them. Imperators II(Talk) 17:54, April 19, 2020 (UTC)
    • Added. OtterSurf (talk) 18:08, April 19, 2020 (UTC)
      • Is there really nothing else to be said about the inhabitants? If not, the info that's there should be integrated into another section. Imperators II(Talk) 18:41, April 19, 2020 (UTC)
        • I think the information about the NR troops has sufficiently beefed it up. OtterSurf (talk) 19:43, April 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • All the info on the planet's cities should be moved from Description to Locations. Imperators II(Talk) 18:41, April 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • The fact that the New Republic maintained a garrison on the planet should be mentioned in Locations or Inhabitants. Imperators II(Talk) 18:41, April 19, 2020 (UTC)
  • Please expand the intro a bit more. Imperators II(Talk) 21:11, April 19, 2020 (UTC)
    • Done. OtterSurf (talk) 08:51, April 20, 2020 (UTC)
      • I'd rather see you cut down a bit on the astrographical details (you've almost copied the entire Description section) and instead describe the planet's history in more detail. Imperators II(Talk) 10:05, April 20, 2020 (UTC)
Toprawa
  • Even though Imperators already asked this, I'd like to know where and in what context this eBook mentions the 25 ABY date specifically. Please quote the exact line here with evidence of how it relates to the attack on New Holgha. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:26, April 23, 2020 (UTC)
    • "Rendezvous point with Udelen's forces, strength and type unspecified, for a briefing at Outer Rim, 25 A.B.Y.", "Birgis: perimeter of spaceport, one standard week after invasion of Helska-4", and "Shirb system, Outer Rim: New Holgha, three standard months into the invasion". The New Essential Chronology makes it clear that the YV invasion begins at the start of 25 ABY, but it should still be pretty clear from context in APM. OtterSurf (talk) 08:59, April 24, 2020 (UTC)
      • Sorry to interject here, but how do Udelen's forces and Birgis relate to the New Holgha invasion? Are there any ABY dates given in the book for events after the New Holgha battle? Imperators II(Talk) 18:11, May 4, 2020 (UTC)
        • Udelen is Nom Anor, Yuuzhan Vong executor, while Fett and Beviin discuss the then upcoming attack at New Holgha on Birgis. And no to the ABY question, just Fett meeting with Kubariet two weeks later. OtterSurf (talk) 19:15, May 4, 2020 (UTC)
        • Never mind, just forget it. I've used The Essential Reader's Companion as the source. OtterSurf (talk) 19:25, May 4, 2020 (UTC)
          • Objection(s) overridden by AgriCorps 19:09, May 9, 2020 (UTC)
Tommy
  • Is it worth explicitly noting the world was held by the New Republic at the start of the History?
    • Like I said, I think this would be better at the start of the history. Tommy-Macaroni 15:48, May 11, 2020 (UTC)
  • "and passed on intelligence to a more reliable source, the Jedi Knight Kubariet" - Is this intelligence to do with New Holgha? If not, I think it'd be better to say future intelligence or something. Also probably best to say "intelligence on the Vong" or something.
  • Can you specify that the Vong lost the war in 29 ABY? Tommy-Macaroni 19:27, May 9, 2020 (UTC)

Comments

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 19:47, May 11, 2020 (UTC)