Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/Gorph/Legends

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Gorph/Legends

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CC-8
  • Everything that is linked in the intro needs to be restated and linked in the body
  • Duplicate linking of 3 ABY, though the practice I've seen recently is to pipelink the letters ABY on their second mention with Galactic Standard Calendar
  • Tongue colour and the fact that they had teeth could be added
    • Done. AmazinglyCool CIS roundel (talk) 17:18, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Good, just remember when you're adding a new element in you may need to keep track of your links to make sure they're done at the earliest reference, which happened with Color/Legends in this case. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 08:08, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Can any assumptions about their height in comparison to Ewoks be added?
  • Clothing and weaponry could go in society and culture section.
    • Done. AmazinglyCool CIS roundel (talk) 17:22, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
      • From Slugga's article she appears to have unique clothing indicating her status, which I think is relevant. Are there any other Gorph's that wear different things than the standard gear? Commander Code-8 Hello There! 08:08, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Done. AmazinglyCool CIS roundel (talk) 03:22, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I'm sure there'll be some applicable quotes. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 16:31, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Found and added some. AmazinglyCool CIS roundel (talk) 11:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
      • I think the History quote could be moved to the top of the article and be replaced with something else. You can be loose with them, just be clear about their relevance in the attribution. Also per the opening quote section of our Layout guide links should not be used within quotes unless they cannot be used in the body. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 16:43, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Done. AmazinglyCool CIS roundel (talk) 18:16, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Skin colour is infobox exclusive.
  • The first sentence in Society and culture can't all be sourced to the timeline reference. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 08:08, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Gorphs' grotto is a conjectural title, so that should be pipelinked with the word grotto and rewritten to avoid presenting it as the official name. Same goes for the other tribe princesses.
  • Should include the author of Supernatural Encounters
  • In regards to the hopping there's a prominent sound effect there, I think that can be mentioned but I am having trouble thinking of a word to describe it.
  • This page is in Category:Aquatic sentient species but there's no portrayal of the Gorphs interacting with water.
  • The Encyclopedia uses frog-like to describe them, so that could be mentioned in the description
  • The dark green dots on their chins and their large chins themselves should be noted in the description.
  • A lot of your sentences in the first two sections are too short and disrupt the flow of the article, mainly ones that start with "they." Please go through and try combining some, you could look at other status species articles for guidance.
  • Should have at least another sentence in the intro. I also don't think you need to use any of the paragraph breaks you currently have given their length. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 16:43, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I think another image could go in the body, from the clip I looked up there's a shot with a lot of Gorphs in the hall that I think would be appropriate.
  • In the Bts, who were the Gorphs defending Endor from? Commander Code-8 Hello There! 04:47, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Since "known for their long tongues" comes from the encyclopedia it should be in the description as well. I think you should remove it from the intro and use that sentence to summarize the features they actually have.
  • The definition of grotto is that it's a type of cave, so calling it cave-like is redundant. I think it was underground in the episode so you could use that as an adjective.
  • I think that sentence about Slugga being queen in the society section only needs to be said in history.
  • The part about spears should say that it was the gorphs outside of the family who wielded them, unless either Slugga or Vork are portrayed with them too.
  • Should specify that it was two Gorphs that found Latara
  • Needs a more context about the Ewoks encounter with the gorphs, such as Latara having been faking her royal status and that the other characters were her friends.
  • Reviewing note: Be careful when inserting new references into paragraphs so that only the relevant information is sourced, I've taken care of the one in the description.
  • Some earlier objections that are unadressed and getting hard to see now:
  • I've just watched the episode again and you can be a lot more specific about it. I'd mention that the queen wanted to unite the tribes so she could rule them, and add at least a couple of sentences detailing the Ewoks escape. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 23:43, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Per the Wookieepedia:Manual of Style#Ranks and Titles, titles such as "Queen" should only be capitalized when they immediately precede a characters name.
  • Should mentioned that their suits had gloves
  • When you first mention Kneesaa you should establish she was the real princess, to give context to Wicket throwing her crown later.
  • Should clarify exactly how many gorphs were driven into the pit.
  • "sending the Gorphs and Slugga into a hole, driving the Gorphs in to their own pit." I can't remember, was there another whole first or did they get sent tumbling straight into the pit? Commander Code-8 Hello There! 08:11, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Missed that bit earlier about Slugga wanting to rule both tribes.
  • There's an earlier mention where color can be linked
  • Vork is in the group of gorphs that get thrown into the pit.
  • There's a quote from Wicket about their warty noses, that can be used in the description section and used in the body.
  • Had another look at the episode and there's stuff I think can go in here with a reasonable level of gaming, since it won't really be covered in other articles. The gorphs spy on the Ewoks before nabbing Latara. The queen threatens Latara by holding her over the pit with her tongue. Two gorphs hear the Ewoks moving in the grotto but realize its nothing, and inadvertently lead them to the wedding. The Ewoks also get found by a couple of guards before the wedding but escape. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 07:01, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
  • "who believe that Latara is a princess and will please Queen Slugga" is in the wrong tense.
  • Should specify how many other gorphs got knocked into the pit. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 06:40, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
  • I think its weird to single out Vork as not having a spear when Slugga doesn't have one either. You could just say the members of the royal family didn't use them.
  • Vork linked twice in the body.
  • Latara isn't linked on her first mention, you need to watch out for your linking when adding new information.
  • Wicket finds gorph tracks leading to the grotto when they find Latara's hood piece, that can be mentioned.
  • Should write that the Ewoks were overlooking the wedding and planning the rescue before being caught by the gorphs.
  • You can specify how the Ewoks escaped there, that Wicket tackled one gorph while Kneesa stomped on the foot of the gorph holding her.
  • Need to mention that the queen and her guards where chasing the Ewoks after Latara was rescued, and that they were bearing down on the Ewoks when Wicket threw the crown. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 00:43, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Do the captions for the episode use the quotation marks around The Pit?
  • "Two Gorphs then found a group of Ewoks, who believed that Latara was a princess and would please Queen Slugga." this makes it sound like the Ewoks believed Latara was princess.
  • Just noticed that CSWE writes "gorphs" lower case, which is normally done for non-sentient species. So I believe that means sentience cannot be sourced to CSWE, and that contradiction should be written out in the Bts.
    • Added. AmazinglyCool CIS roundel (talk) 13:57, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
      • Good start but there's some more to be done: You should source the decapitalization of gorphs to that specific entry.
      • I think you need a source for the characteristics of sentience, something like Essential Guide to Alien Species might be suitable.
      • The paragraph break is unnecessary. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 10:57, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Still got two incorrect capitalizations of queen. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 03:05, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • The capitalization of "pit" is inconsistent, which one do the captions use?
  • Aside from the Bts the word "this" should be avoided.
  • The second intro sentence should be expanded with more info. I think with the size the history section you could have two full sentences summarizing it in the intro too. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 10:57, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Imp
  • Since we don't know to what extent Bongiorno has modified his novella from the original manuscript, there's no way of telling what in the current novel is information from a canceled source and what is by now essentially Bongiorno's fan fiction. Therefore, I'm going to ask you to remove all the information relating to Supernatural Encounters from this article. Imperators II(Talk) 11:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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  • "they made a squishy noise" - Could you perhaps use a more encyclopedic description of the noise, like "squelching"? OtterSurf (talk) 07:54, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Comments

Vote to remove nomination (AC only)

  1. ACvote Unanswered objections for 11 days. 1358 (Talk) 19:52, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
  2. ACvote UberSoldat93 ClanMudhornSignet-Redemption (talk) 19:53, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
  3. ACvote Imperators II(Talk) 19:53, 24 June 2021 (UTC)