Wookieepedia:Good article nominations/B1 grapple droid

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B1 grapple droid

Cevan (talk) 01:18, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
--Lewisr (talk) 13:05, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
Ayrehead02 (talk) 11:19, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
I switched up the order of BTS since in this case it's more important to lead off with the more relevant Galactic Defense rather than previous Legends appearances. Imperators II^(Talk) 14:09, December 20, 2016 (UTC)
Nice job. :) Sol Pacificus^Firestorm 07:52, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
Terribly sorry for the delay. Good work. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:03, August 10, 2017 (UTC)
1358 ^(Talk) 20:34, August 10, 2017 (UTC)

Couldn't the B1 grapple droid's name be sourced to Galactic Defense as opposed to the launch trailer? Both the game and trailer were released on the same day, and I would imagine the actual game should take precedence. Cevan (talk) 00:56, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
- The droids weren't actually named in the game, so the trailer's all we have. - Cwedin^(talk) 01:06, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
  - Interesting. So they weren't named in the game's enemy database? Cevan (talk) 01:10, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
    - Nope. That's why I initially misinterpreted them as plasma battle droids. - Cwedin^(talk) 01:17, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
      - Got it—thanks Cwedin! Cevan (talk) 01:18, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Referencing issues: If a subject doesn't appear in a given source, that source should never be used as an outright reference for specific information pertaining to the subject. For example, the majority of this article is referenced to the Character Encyclopedia, but the B1 grapple droid is never even mentioned in that book! Let's take the first infobox field, for example. The reference used to cite the droid's creator suggests that I could literally open up the Character Encyclopedia and find a passage that says, to paraphrase, "The Geonosians manufactured the B1 grapple droid," when this is simply not the case. You're extrapolating this information from some indirect information provided in that source, which is fine, but that rationale needs to be explained in a manual reference note so the reader knows how you're arriving at this information. The same goes for Ultimate Star Wars and any other source being referenced in this manner. It may be necessary to use multiple manual reference notes for each source. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 13:17, April 25, 2017 (UTC)
- Done. - Cwedin^(talk) 23:40, April 25, 2017 (UTC)
  - Good job. I made a minor wording revision to them. Please make sure everything looks accurate. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:03, August 10, 2017 (UTC)

Even in the absence of an official policy, I don't see any reason why articles shouldn't be consistent with introducing in either the subject in the singular or plural form. Maybe it's just because I come from a wiki where this is a frequent issue, but I find this to be particularly glaring for this article. Could you change it to the singular to conform with most other articles (including the immediate B1 grapple droid/Legends, B1-series battle droid, and B2 grapple droid). Sol Pacificus^Firestorm 04:39, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
- The intro is now updated, and I'll keep the singular intro in mind when writing future articles. Consistency is key! - Cwedin^(talk) 05:55, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

In the article for B2 grapple droid, it's indicated that the B2s were a successor to the B1. Now I don't have the source material but if this is true, it's probably worth mentioning in this artice as well. 1358 ^(Talk) 20:25, August 9, 2017 (UTC)
- In the game, the B1 droids could be updated to B2s, but there was no written info about their relationship. I'm not sure how much of that can be taken as IU content vs game mechanics, so I believe it's speculative to say the B2s succeeded the B1s. The BTS section currently mentions the upgrade mechanics, and I think that's enough. - Cwedin^(talk) 03:49, August 10, 2017 (UTC)
  - Fair enough. 1358 ^(Talk) 20:34, August 10, 2017 (UTC)

Approved as a Good article by AgriCorps 20:34, August 10, 2017 (UTC)

Is there any rule that the subject should be introduced in the singular? Sol Pacificus^Firestorm 02:49, April 25, 2017 (UTC)
- I haven't heard of one. - Cwedin^(talk) 03:50, April 25, 2017 (UTC)