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Krdys Mordi
- Nominated by: QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 21:54, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: A sexist Dark Jedi with poor eyesight
(3 Inqs/4 Users/7 Total)
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Support
- UberSoldat93
(talk) 09:21, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
- --TheTrooperGuy (talk) 20:26, July 1, 2020 (UTC)
Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:24, October 9, 2020 (UTC)
Imperators II(Talk) 20:23, October 16, 2020 (UTC)
I do quite enjoy these Dark Side Elite noms. Good stuff. Tommy-Macaroni 18:41, October 17, 2020 (UTC)- VergenceScatter (talk) 18:49, October 17, 2020 (UTC)
- Nice job! Lewisr (talk) 18:56, October 17, 2020 (UTC)
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Toprawa
It appears to be an easy enough editing job to blend out the cropped speech bubbles in the main image. Please send a request to spookly if you aren't able to do so yourself.- Addressed. Credit to spookly for the amazing job. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 06:26, September 24, 2020 (UTC)
- Well done, indeed. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:18, September 24, 2020 (UTC)
- Addressed. Credit to spookly for the amazing job. QuiGonJinn
Is "Battle of Balmorra" a formal title? The article is inconsistent throughout on this point.- Yes, it is. Sources such as Veers' databank entry establish it as such. I have fixed the capitalization issues. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 20:14, September 26, 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, it is. Sources such as Veers' databank entry establish it as such. I have fixed the capitalization issues. QuiGonJinn
Is the Dark Side Elite ever shortened to just "the Elite" in source material? If not, I think it would be best if we don't either.Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 05:33, September 16, 2020 (UTC)- Couldn't find any instances of such usage upon double-checking the sources. Formatting fixed. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 20:14, September 26, 2020 (UTC)
- Couldn't find any instances of such usage upon double-checking the sources. Formatting fixed. QuiGonJinn
The objections below have made me take a closer look at these infobox affiliations, and now you're just being inconsistent with how you've formatted your other articles in this regard. Take a look at how you formatted Xecr Nist, for example. I'm not exactly sure the best way to format all of this, but there's no reason why all of these articles shouldn't be identical.Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:39, September 26, 2020 (UTC)- I think this article's formatting is the way to go, although the Galactic Empire is infobox-exclusive, and I don't think Dark Empire should be listed under it. - - -
OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 22:25, September 26, 2020 (UTC)
- I have incorporated the mention of the Galactic Empire into the first paragraph, while also simplifying the referencing by using The Essential Atlas as a source, as it contains the info cited in those sentences, while also explicitly using the term "Dark Empire." Regarding Toprawa's point: I'm aware that such inconsistency is present between the articles, and I agree that Mordi's current formatting should be used as a template. Before making changes to those other articles, though, I wanted to make sure that everyone is satisfied with the way this article presents those affiliations. If there are no more objections related to this, then I will surely go through the other Dark Side Elite articles and format them consistently. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 08:16, September 28, 2020 (UTC)
- For the affiliations, I really don't see why the infobox needs to list the Galactic Empire and not the Dark Empire. The Galactic Empire is like an afterthought, while the Dark Empire is his predominant affiliation. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:22, September 28, 2020 (UTC)
- The way I see it based on the available sources, primarily The Essential Atlas, the "Galactic Empire" was the overall continuous state that existed between 19 BBY (Proclamation of the New Order) and 12 ABY (Formation of the Imperial Remnant). Terms like Dark Empire and Crimson Empire were semi-unofficial names applied to certain forms of government between 10 ABY and 11 ABY, whose rulers considered their systems to be legitimate continuations of the original state created in 19 BBY. This can be contrasted by various breakaway states like the Pentastar Alignment, who acknowledged that the original Galactic Empire had died at Endor. By this logic, Dark Empire would be a sub-bullet point of the Galactic Empire. But since we have another sub-points like the Dark Side Elite, Dark Empire should be skipped in the infobox. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 14:06, September 30, 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand the relationship of the Dark Empire to the Galactic Empire and all that you're explaining here. What I'm saying is that for practicality and to accommodate our sub-bullet rule, we can just skip "Galactic Empire" and instead list "Dark Empire" as the first bullet. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:57, October 1, 2020 (UTC)
- Ok. I've changed it. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 19:02, October 1, 2020 (UTC)
- As a final note, I will reiterate the need for you to go through your other articles make these affiliations consistent. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:24, October 9, 2020 (UTC)
- Ok. I've changed it. QuiGonJinn
- Yes, I understand the relationship of the Dark Empire to the Galactic Empire and all that you're explaining here. What I'm saying is that for practicality and to accommodate our sub-bullet rule, we can just skip "Galactic Empire" and instead list "Dark Empire" as the first bullet. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:57, October 1, 2020 (UTC)
- The way I see it based on the available sources, primarily The Essential Atlas, the "Galactic Empire" was the overall continuous state that existed between 19 BBY (Proclamation of the New Order) and 12 ABY (Formation of the Imperial Remnant). Terms like Dark Empire and Crimson Empire were semi-unofficial names applied to certain forms of government between 10 ABY and 11 ABY, whose rulers considered their systems to be legitimate continuations of the original state created in 19 BBY. This can be contrasted by various breakaway states like the Pentastar Alignment, who acknowledged that the original Galactic Empire had died at Endor. By this logic, Dark Empire would be a sub-bullet point of the Galactic Empire. But since we have another sub-points like the Dark Side Elite, Dark Empire should be skipped in the infobox. QuiGonJinn
- For the affiliations, I really don't see why the infobox needs to list the Galactic Empire and not the Dark Empire. The Galactic Empire is like an afterthought, while the Dark Empire is his predominant affiliation. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:22, September 28, 2020 (UTC)
- I have incorporated the mention of the Galactic Empire into the first paragraph, while also simplifying the referencing by using The Essential Atlas as a source, as it contains the info cited in those sentences, while also explicitly using the term "Dark Empire." Regarding Toprawa's point: I'm aware that such inconsistency is present between the articles, and I agree that Mordi's current formatting should be used as a template. Before making changes to those other articles, though, I wanted to make sure that everyone is satisfied with the way this article presents those affiliations. If there are no more objections related to this, then I will surely go through the other Dark Side Elite articles and format them consistently. QuiGonJinn
- I think this article's formatting is the way to go, although the Galactic Empire is infobox-exclusive, and I don't think Dark Empire should be listed under it. - - -
OOM
Regarding the infobox's affiliations field, should the Dark Side Elite not be listed directly under the Dark Empire instead of the generic term "Dark Side Adepts"? Also, I see no reason for Dark Side Squadron to be left out.- Adjusted accordingly. Regarding the Dark Side Squadron, I initally thought that it would be a sub-bullet point of the "Dark Side Elite" (so it wouldn't be allowed per MOS). However, there's really not much info on this organization besides a passing mention in the audio drama, so there's no reason why it can't be its own thing. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 20:14, September 26, 2020 (UTC)
- Adjusted accordingly. Regarding the Dark Side Squadron, I initally thought that it would be a sub-bullet point of the "Dark Side Elite" (so it wouldn't be allowed per MOS). However, there's really not much info on this organization besides a passing mention in the audio drama, so there's no reason why it can't be its own thing. QuiGonJinn
"Palpatine then sent the Dark Side Elite there, under the command of the new Executor, Xecr Nist, a replacement for Sedriss,[3] who had recently been killed in battle with Skywalker." It gets a bit confusing here with all the commas.- - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 16:18, September 24, 2020 (UTC)
- Sentence split. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 20:14, September 26, 2020 (UTC)
- Sentence split. QuiGonJinn
Great. Then a category for the Dark Side Squadron could be created and added to the article.- - -OOM 224 ༼༽{talk}༼༽ 20:32, September 26, 2020 (UTC)
- Done. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 08:16, September 28, 2020 (UTC)
- Done. QuiGonJinn
Comments
Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 18:57, October 17, 2020 (UTC)