Wookieepedia:Featured article nominations/Fideltin Rusk (second nomination)

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Fideltin Rusk

• Nominated by: Cade Calrayn 03:54, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
• Nomination comments:
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Support

1. Nice to have you back, Cade. VergenceScatter (talk) 15:42, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
2. Great job. OtterSurf (talk) 11:28, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
3. Return of the compansion FAs. Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 11:02, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
4. Erebus Chronus ^(Talk) 04:38, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
5. MasterFred(talk) 08:59, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
6. Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 05:39, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
7. UberSoldat93 (talk) 16:59, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Object

CC-8

• Current standards favour much shorter subsections due to the death of Monobook, which you can see throughout other current noms or recent FAs.Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 04:16, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Per discussion on Discord the recommendations were that sectioning should follow natural divisions of content, so I guess the ones in the biography section are okay. I was going to suggest subsectioning the Bts but I can't find a break that wouldn't only leave one paragraph behind. Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 09:30, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
• If commander is not given as his actual rank those links should pipelink to Commanding officer/Legends instead.
  • Done.
• Time on Hoth: May be my weary eyes but I can't tell which decade is being referred to in the first sentence
  • Updated the Mindor/end of war stuff in the paragraph above, and the paragraph below, to include dates.
• Neither of his parents are currently linked. Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 09:30, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Done. Cade Calrayn 17:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
• The exact date behind the year isn't necessary per the Layout Guide. Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 11:58, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Fixed Cade Calrayn 20:37, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
• I think describing the info given from the encyclopedia in the Bts is unnecessary.
• I'll have to check some youtube videos later, are there notable differences in how Rusk interacts with the player in Fallen Empire if they're continuing playing as the Jedi Master as opposed to other classes? Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 02:46, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
  • • Nothing too special. Doesn't talk much about the time jump. Cade Calrayn 14:15, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
      • "Stars, it's good to see your face. Sorry about the undignified welcome. They don't make leashes tight enough for this lot."
      • "I'm glad to see you too. It seems like you've climbed the ranks since I've been gone."
      • "There are very few people who would choose this command, but I'm honored to shoulder the burden for the good of the Republic."
        • I think it would be fine to mention that there's specific dialogue if the player is reuniting with Rusk in the BTS.
          • Done. Cade Calrayn 15:29, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
• Watching some videos and it seems that the Commander gets a tip off to find Rusk from Bey'wan Aygo and chews out a soldier named Merghal, which can be added to the bio, and the mission the player can undertake for Rusk should go in the bts too. Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 08:50, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Added mention of the dialogue, but the mission's already mentioned in the BTS, unless you're referring to something else. Cade Calrayn 15:29, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
    • By mission I meant what the player has to do on Nar Shaddaa to recruit Rusk. Commander Code-8 ^{Hello There!} 02:27, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
      • Expanded. Cade Calrayn 03:52, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Vergence

• "None" shouldn't be listed as a hair color.
  • Done.
• The page is currently in the error category Category:TOR dates usages without act argument. VergenceScatter (talk) 04:46, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Fixed. Cade Calrayn 17:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
• I think that Cross of Glory could use a bit of context.
  • Done. Cade Calrayn 14:15, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
• Where was Rusk first identified as Fideltin? The article says that TOR simply calls him "Sergeant Rusk." VergenceScatter (talk) 03:23, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
  • The Holonet, in the Sources. It was his first mention; rewrote BTS accordingly. Cade Calrayn 04:49, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

UberSoldat

• Straight off the bat, I want to see more sectioning employed in the article. I'm also noticing empty space that can use more images (which btw look pretty small to me currently). Since this is a video game subject, I hope images won't be an issue. More to come after this is done. UberSoldat93 (talk) 07:15, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
  • sectioned; working on images and quotes. Cade Calrayn 17:48, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Aaand done. 16:15, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
    • Anything for the BTS? It's currently six completely unsectioned paragraphs. UberSoldat93 (talk) 16:27, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
      • Broke it into two, though they're uneven, but that's the only organic way to split the content. Cade Calrayn 23:23, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
        • Final thing: Is there a suitable image for that last section (e.g. if Rusk in a different outfit)? UberSoldat93 (talk) 08:10, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
          • Added one from the Holonet. May change it later from one on a later playthrough. Cade Calrayn 04:00, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
            • The caption should always be more than just "This is the character." UberSoldat93 (talk) 05:48, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
              • Have you decided on what to use? UberSoldat93 (talk) 08:51, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
                • Tweaked. Cade Calrayn 16:19, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
• Do we really need the parentheses next to infobox affiliations? Generally, the specific affiliation is listed regardless of the duration and circumstances.
• I really think the intro's third paragraph can be split up; it currently takes up half the screen on my end.
• I advise caution againt using such words so as not to conflict with a neutral point of view, even if they may be supported by the cited sources: "However, they fought valiantly against overwhelming odds and escaped successfully with the prisoners".
• Having gone through "Early career," I can see a clean split between the four paragraphs, since the latter half discusses his service and reputation. Another quote can be added if available. UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:56, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
  • All done. Cade Calrayn 18:21, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
• I want to confirm that the context for the locations is supported by those cited sources i.e. planet Hoth. UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:56, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Most were correct but I've verified them all. Cade Calrayn 16:58, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
• Issue with "A new assignment"'s third paragraph: Much of it is not written from Rusk's perspective, when it should be as he is the subject of the article. For example, this has nothing to do with Rusk specifically "Carsen had resisted the Emperor's control thanks to her experience as his servant before, and she was more than ready to escape with her Master." I'm also seeing this issue from that point in the article forward e.g. "the Hero and crew" should ideally be something like "Rusk and his allies."
  • Rewritten that paragraph, and switched up some of the wording elsewhere.
• Tol Braga should be introduced as Kel Dor on his first mention if you intend to refer to him by his species throughout the article.
  • Removed.
• Some of the quote attributions need elaboration, especially when the quote has other people involved e.g. the one under "A new assignment."
  • Done.
• Context for Nar Shaddaa.
  • Done.
• Would like "Personality and traits"'s second paragraph broken up, it takes up more than half the screen for me in the un-expanded view. UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:27, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Done.
• "Skills and abilities" section is definitely warranted, after seeing descriptions such as "a determined and skilled commander with years of experience" and "mindset of statistical efficiency." UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:30, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Done. Cade Calrayn 04:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
• I don't believe it's necessary to document the traits of a species on the pages for every single member of the species, so I think the info cited to Ultimate Alien Anthology needs to go.
• Please remove the reference to the CT, as this is not a practice that is employed anymore; the assumption by the article can stand on its own. There is also unsourced information in that paragraph; the bit regarding Rusk's companion status. UberSoldat93 (talk) 08:48, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Both done. Cade Calrayn 18:26, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
• "Working with the Jedi" and "Personality and traits" have the same quote.
• After going through the quotes again, "Working with the Jedi," "Confronting the Maw," and "Equipment"'s quotes involve other people, so the attributions should make it clear who they are as well. UberSoldat93 (talk) 04:28, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Both done. Cade Calrayn 22:46, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
    • No edits were made. UberSoldat93 (talk) 03:15, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Fred strikes back

• (Review note): I went ahead and increased the image sizes even more. From one old Wook soul to another, it took a while for the large image size trend to grow on me, and I thought it looked gaudy for years, so I'm sure it'll be the same for you. haha
• (Review note): "Among" is preferred over "amongst" in American English.
• For ref 11, are we really assuming as the last sentence states? Seems like we have a lot of reasoning to say it definitely does take place in that timeframe. MasterFred(talk) 00:07, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
  • We have a definitive date for the fall of the Treaty (middle of 3641) but most of the Act II class content takes place before the Treaty collapse, and there are unclear time jumps between Acts 2-3. Not like anyone's ever gonna tell us otherwise, but that's why TORdates is written that way. Cade Calrayn 20:15, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Something seems to be wrong with ref 36. MasterFred(talk) 06:53, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
  • My own templates were working against me; I don't have dating text for that specific of a patch. Fixed. Cade Calrayn 23:23, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
• One last thing: the parentheses in the fourth paragraph of the Bts can be removed and the text worked into the prose. MasterFred(talk) 10:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Done. Cade Calrayn 20:47, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

SE

• "While Rusk was acquitted each time and given a medal" did he get a medal after each acquittal, or just a single medal overall?
  • As far as I remember, it's that he got a medal each time.
• "and she wanted to set a trap for him at the site of the shuttle." What shuttle? I'm presuming the one mentioned earlier in the article? Supreme Emperor ^Holocomm 02:34, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Correct, the Pythar-class shuttle is the subject of the Hoth mission. Cade Calrayn 23:32, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

OOM

• "Their mission completed, the six were awarded the prestigious medal" — this is the only instance where the Hero's number of companions is given, so readers unfamiliar with the game might not know what you're referring to here
• "Although the threat of the Emperor was ended, the galaxy was still consumed in war, so the Hero and crew continued to travel from planet to planet aboard their ship, aiding those in need." A more specific citation should be used for this line OOM 224 19:08, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Both done. Surprised that plain TOR citation's survived this long, I don't remember adding it. Cade Calrayn 16:58, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• Note to self: Continue from "Time on Hoth." UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:57, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
  • "A new assignment" UberSoldat93 (talk) 18:57, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Personality and traits. UberSoldat93 (talk) 17:27, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Approved as a Featured article by Inquisitorius 17:00, 27 March 2022 (UTC)