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Unidentified comm tech
- Nominated by: Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 09:24, February 2, 2019 (UTC)
- Nomination comments: I have time on my hands, needed a new project. This character is probably the obscurest I could nominate. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 09:24, February 2, 2019 (UTC)
(2 ECs/3 Users/5 Total)
Support
- Good job. Fan26 (Talk) 22:59, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 08:55, February 4, 2019 (UTC)
- Nice work! --Lewisr (talk) 12:42, February 5, 2019 (UTC)
QuiGonJinn (Talk) 16:22, February 10, 2019 (UTC)
- Someone needs to talk to Imperators regarding his objections. Winterz (talk) 14:13, April 1, 2019 (UTC)
Object
Fan
The line "magic with a transmitter" seems a little bit...'casual', for lack of a better word. Would you mind changing it?Fan26 (Talk) 16:12, February 2, 2019 (UTC)- Changed. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 16:18, February 2, 2019 (UTC)
"The female individual" Should be 'this'.Fan26 (Talk) 16:24, February 2, 2019 (UTC)- Done. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 08:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
Anil
The word "nights" can be pipelinked to Standard day.- Done. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 08:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
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The planet, however, was bombarded..." Do we know if this is an orbital bombardment?- Just says the "bombardment on Asyrphus" and later gets mentioned as the "massacre at Asyrphus". Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 08:19, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
Please pay attention to how "Battlefront: Twilight Company audiobook" is formatted.- Fixed. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 08:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
There are more than one mention of the comm tech in the novel such as this one. "Namir closed his eyes again and made an obscene gesture in Chalis's direction. He'd learned it from Twilight's dead comm tech long ago, and he wasn't sure how commonplace it was. From Chalis's laughter, however, she seemed to get the point." They should be reflected in the article as well.- Ah I didn't notice that. That's the third mention she has in the book then. Added. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 08:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, she is mentioned five times, in Chapters 2, 4, 12, 23, and 28. Please check the others for possible new info.
Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 08:54, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- It's just Namir recounting her. I've added that detail. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 18:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, she is mentioned five times, in Chapters 2, 4, 12, 23, and 28. Please check the others for possible new info.
- Ah I didn't notice that. That's the third mention she has in the book then. Added. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 08:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
Please note the capitalization of the "massacre at Asyrphus" in the reference note.- That's what it is referred to in the book so I assumed that would be it's real name. Changed it now. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 08:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
As discussed in your Cait nomination, please avoid using second person pronouns in references.Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 18:06, February 2, 2019 (UTC)
- Changed. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 08:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- (Not an objection) Please remember that eveything in the reference note must be sourced. Also, since the note is not written in in-universe, you don't need to write it in past tense. And eveything must be linked just like the article body.
Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 09:34, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
You need to expand your dating note. An event that occurs two months before another one doesn't necessarily have to be in the same year. But since the novel also says that it takes place "Nineteen Years After the Clone Wars," it can be assumed that way. Also, as far as I can find, the novel has no mention of the Battle of the Tower being two months before Yavin. However, it says that for the battle on Vir Aphshire, which occurs concurrently with the Battle of Yavin. The reference note should contain every detail for how you extrapolate that information.Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 09:34, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- In the two months since Namir joined Twilight Company…. That is mentioned near the beginning of the chapter and insinuates that it has been two months since the Battle of the Tower. I have expanded the note now. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 18:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- We're almost there. But just like the year zero in real life, 0 BBY might not span over an entire year, meaning 0 BBY and 0 ABY could share the same year, the year zero. So, 2 months before Yavin could be 1 BBY instead of 0, but we can extrapolate that it is 0 BBY from the time frame given at the beginning of the Battle of the Tower chapter, "Nineteen Years After the Clone Wars."
Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 19:45, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- Changed it accordingly. It should look fine now, unless you see any more work to do on it. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 19:59, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- The bit about Vir Aphshire should have stayed in the note to prove that the Battle of the Tower takes place before Yavin, thus 0 BBY. But I've readded that for you. Now, I'd also like to see a date interval for comm tech's death, something like "between 0 BBY and 2 ABY," for example. I'd suggest that you look into all five mentions of her, and go with the earliest.
Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 20:24, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- Done. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 20:34, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- "...which takes place 19 years after the Clone Wars in the novel, dated as 3 ABY in Star Wars: Galactic Atlas." Something is wrong here. And how exactly the novel places Haidoral Prime to three years after Yavin? Also, you should write the numbers in letters.
Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 21:00, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- My bad, that was meant to be 22. Sorted. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 22:36, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- "...which takes place 19 years after the Clone Wars in the novel, dated as 3 ABY in Star Wars: Galactic Atlas." Something is wrong here. And how exactly the novel places Haidoral Prime to three years after Yavin? Also, you should write the numbers in letters.
- Done. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 20:34, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- The bit about Vir Aphshire should have stayed in the note to prove that the Battle of the Tower takes place before Yavin, thus 0 BBY. But I've readded that for you. Now, I'd also like to see a date interval for comm tech's death, something like "between 0 BBY and 2 ABY," for example. I'd suggest that you look into all five mentions of her, and go with the earliest.
- Changed it accordingly. It should look fine now, unless you see any more work to do on it. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 19:59, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- We're almost there. But just like the year zero in real life, 0 BBY might not span over an entire year, meaning 0 BBY and 0 ABY could share the same year, the year zero. So, 2 months before Yavin could be 1 BBY instead of 0, but we can extrapolate that it is 0 BBY from the time frame given at the beginning of the Battle of the Tower chapter, "Nineteen Years After the Clone Wars."
- In the two months since Namir joined Twilight Company…. That is mentioned near the beginning of the chapter and insinuates that it has been two months since the Battle of the Tower. I have expanded the note now. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 18:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
Lewisr
Your reference note doesn't really establish how the Battle of the Tower took place in 0 BBY--Lewisr (talk) 18:17, February 2, 2019 (UTC)- Referenced it to Star Wars: Galactic Atlas in the note. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 08:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
Imp
"he recounted her a number of times" — "recount" is probably not the best choice of word here. (Same goes for the ref note.) And in any case, this implies there are quotes to be had for the article.Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, February 15, 2019 (UTC)- Objection(s) overridden by EduCorps 12:12, April 4, 2019 (UTC)
- Changed. There are no quotes to do with her. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 17:28, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
- This is still inpartially addressed. Imperators II(Talk) 11:24, March 8, 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, forgot about the ref note. Done. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 16:09, March 8, 2019 (UTC)
- Why hasn't this been slashed? Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 12:41, March 17, 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, forgot about the ref note. Done. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 16:09, March 8, 2019 (UTC)
- This is still inpartially addressed. Imperators II(Talk) 11:24, March 8, 2019 (UTC)
Please tell more about the tech's droid.Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, February 15, 2019 (UTC)- She and her idiot droid had died in the bombardment on Asyrphus. That it the only mention of it. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 17:28, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
I feel like characterizing people as "drunk" can only be done regarding specific occasions, not as a general personality trait. Please reword.Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, February 15, 2019 (UTC)- Done. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 17:28, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
Date of death needed in infobox.Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, February 15, 2019 (UTC)- Made it an interval, if that is ok? Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 17:28, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
I'd like to see "technician" and, if possible, "comm" worked into the article.Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, February 15, 2019 (UTC)- Done. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 17:28, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
"Namir also adopted a trait she had where she closed her eyes and made an obscene gesture towards something." — please rewrite this from the technician's perspective. And please specify "something."Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, February 15, 2019 (UTC)- It is hard to say what she was gesturing towards when she did it. But Namir did it towards Chalis, so it must have been an individual. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 17:28, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
- To clarify, I have rewritten it. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 22:03, February 21, 2019 (UTC)
- It is hard to say what she was gesturing towards when she did it. But Namir did it towards Chalis, so it must have been an individual. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 17:28, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
"two months before the battle on Vir Aphshire" — what exactly is this needed for in the ref note?Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, February 15, 2019 (UTC)- Objection(s) overridden by EduCorps 12:12, April 4, 2019 (UTC)
- I thought it would be good to justify that the battle on Vir Aphshire took place in the year before the Battle of Yavin, 0 BBY, by saying it happened two months prior. Give the word and I will change it. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 17:28, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
- I have removed the two months part, but clarifying that the Comm Tech died between 0 BBY and 3 ABY requires the fact Namir joined prior to the Battle of Yavin. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 16:09, March 8, 2019 (UTC)
- A response is advised.Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 18:27, March 24, 2019 (UTC)
- I have removed the two months part, but clarifying that the Comm Tech died between 0 BBY and 3 ABY requires the fact Namir joined prior to the Battle of Yavin. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 16:09, March 8, 2019 (UTC)
"Although the rest of the Sixty-First managed to escape, the comm tech was never replaced" — these two don't seem to be contrasting facts, so I don't think linking them with "although" is justified.Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, February 15, 2019 (UTC)- Fixed. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 17:28, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
"Namir swore to forget her name" — this seems odd, given the level of bonding between the two implied in the rest of the article. Is any reason for this given by the novel?Imperators II(Talk) 10:44, February 15, 2019 (UTC)- and the comm tech who'd died on Asyrphus—the woman whose name Namir had pledged to forget. No explanation is given for this. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 17:28, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
- It has been five days, am I missing something on these objections? Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 20:38, February 20, 2019 (UTC)
- and the comm tech who'd died on Asyrphus—the woman whose name Namir had pledged to forget. No explanation is given for this. Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 17:28, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
Comments
- It says “Asyrphus, however, was bombarded…” in the second sentence of the second paragraph. Is this meant to pipelink to orbital bombardment?--Afilmfanforlife (talk) 23:28, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
- With Imperators' last two objections not being slashed after several weeks, will this nomination end up failing or is there a fail-safe rule? Braha'tok enthusiast (talk) 20:57, April 3, 2019 (UTC)
- An EduCorps consensus was reached to strike Imperators' objections via IRC.
Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 12:12, April 4, 2019 (UTC)