Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Kiffu/Canon

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Kiffu/Canon

  • Nominated by: ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:58, May 19, 2015 (UTC)
  • Nomination comments: Pretty much the definition of a simple comprehensive article based on a single source that can't be expanded any further I think. No quote, no image, just a mention in Ultimate Star Wars that it was Vos's homeworld in a list of facts. If I'm not mistaken, no infobox is needed either, since there wouldn't be anything to put in it, other than the name. Everything is sourced. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:58, May 19, 2015 (UTC)

(2 ECs/3 Users/5 Total)

Support

  1. Manoof (talk) 08:53, May 20, 2015 (UTC)
  2. ECvote 501st dogma(talk) 01:47, May 21, 2015 (UTC)
  3. ECvote Although you still need to find a date for the 32 pre-Yavin for TPM. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 01:34, May 23, 2015 (UTC)
  4. Squishy Vic | message 19:36, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
  5. Imperators II(Talk) 08:13, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Object

501st
  • As a heads up, sources go after BTS. :P 501st dogma(talk) 20:25, May 19, 2015 (UTC)
  • It would probably be good to give a timeframe that Vos lived in, just so that we know when Kiffu was capable of supporting life (in this case, a Clone Wars time period will do). 501st dogma(talk) 20:42, May 19, 2015 (UTC)
    • Not a bad idea. I've done it. And since you brought that up, I've also put in an infobox indicating an atmosphere breathable to humans, and I also put in the Human/Kiffar species. ProfessorTofty (talk) 23:38, May 19, 2015 (UTC)
      • To build on that, you should say in the body that Voss was a Human/Kifar. Also, I don't think we can say for a fact that Kiffu's atmosphere was breathable by humans, as it is technically possibly that Voss was born/lived in an enclosed structure with an artificial atmosphere. 501st dogma(talk) 16:55, May 20, 2015 (UTC)
        • Yeah, that's good thinking - in a galaxy of fantastical possibilities like what we see in Star Wars, something like that is always possible. I removed it and added the bit about Vos being Human / Kiffar to the body. ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:18, May 21, 2015 (UTC)
Exiled Jedi
  • Does the source say that Human/Kiffar are a native species to the planet, or does it just mention Vos?--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 02:51, May 23, 2015 (UTC)
    • It specifically calls it his "homeworld," but nothing else. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:52, May 23, 2015 (UTC)
      • Well, that is not enough to say that Humans/Kiffar are native to the planet.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 15:09, May 30, 2015 (UTC)
        • Alright, I killed it. ProfessorTofty (talk) 17:03, May 31, 2015 (UTC)
          • Restored based on the latest update to the Databank, which clearly states that it is one of two home planets of the Kiffar species. ProfessorTofty (talk) 22:55, June 9, 2015 (UTC)
  • The information about it being one of the two Kiffar homeworlds should be mentioned before Vos.
    • Moved it so that it's mentioned before Vos is. ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:16, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
  • As the databank entry added new information in a sparse subject, I believe that it is important enough to be mentioned briefly in the BTS.
  • Per this decision, "human" should not be capitalized in Canon articles.
  • I just want to make sure about this: Does Ultimate Star Wars call Vos a human/Kiffar. From the Kiffar databank entry it sounds like Kiffar are not human.
    • Here's the weird thing - not only does Ultimate Star Wars specifically list his species as "human," the only place that the term "Kiffars" appears is in the book's index for the page that Vos's entry is to be found on, but the word "Kiffar" or "Kiffars" actually does not appear on that page. Or, to put it another way, the entry for him actually specifically describes him as "human," while the idea of him being Kiffar is implied by the index, but not directly stated. ProfessorTofty (talk) 01:16, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
      • Does anything specifically call him a Kiffar?--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 14:00, July 3, 2015 (UTC)
        • Yes, the Star Wars Databank. I've now sourced the info about him being human to Ultimate Star Wars and Kiffar part to the Databank. ProfessorTofty (talk) 21:55, July 5, 2015 (UTC)
  • From just the databank entry, I do not believe that you can say that humans were a native species.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 17:16, June 13, 2015 (UTC)
  • The Phantom Menace does not state that the character is Vos. You need another source to back that up.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 14:00, July 3, 2015 (UTC)
    • Added reference clarifying that the character was identified as Vos. ProfessorTofty (talk) 21:58, July 5, 2015 (UTC)

Comments

  • Regarding the date thing, I added the standard date tweet that we've been using regarding the timeline of the films. ProfessorTofty (talk) 02:20, May 23, 2015 (UTC)
  • Something to note: it's entirely possible we may be getting more information on this subject in Dark Disciple, due to Vos being one of the two primary characters in the novel. This article may end up exceeding the CA word count by July. I'm leaving this as a comment rather than an objection since this is just a wild guess, but it's something to keep in mind. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 02:56, May 23, 2015 (UTC)
  • Article updated with new information from the Databank. ProfessorTofty (talk) 22:55, June 9, 2015 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the note Tofty, still looks good! Manoof (talk) 04:41, June 10, 2015 (UTC)