Wookieepedia:AC/Meeting 108

Welcome, one and all, to the 108th Wookieepedia Tea and Cake Club, where we'll all enjoy the finest refreshments and nibbles from around the galaxy. Everyone grab a Wookiee Cookie and a Hoth chocolate and we'll get right to it.

The proceedings will cover the hot gossip from last months club meetup as well as presentations of the most recent drama, and will take place on the Agricorps' official IRC channel on September 22 at 4 PM ET.

Agenda

Stale pastries

• 4D6-J-A7 (diff • review)
  • Taken care of prior to probe. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:41, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
• BB-23 heavy blaster cannon (diff • review)
• Seismic activity team (diff • review)
• Vob Bitas (diff • review)

Cold tea

Expand as needed. See also: Maintenance bin

• Xor
  • Verify the last sentence in the behind the scenes, which an anon had added and it went overlooked for more than 2 years at this point.
  • Behind the scenes already not fully cited.
  • See if anything more reliable than IMDB says Neil Kaplan voiced Xor. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 13:42, September 10, 2018 (UTC)
• Langoonan
  • The 1 BBY date needs a proper reference.
  • I'm guessing this is probably poor extrapolation, since the story likely only says that Durga considered the masks a treasure, not that "certain Hutts" did. Am I wrong? "Langoonan deathmasks had become valuable pieces of art, at least for certain Hutts..." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:12, September 10, 2018 (UTC)
• Rotar Lopani — The HNN articles cannot be used to properly source the 22 BBY date, as they only use GrS. The conversion from GrS to BBY needs to be explained in a reference note. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:34, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Mak Luunim
  • Redlink
  • Please verify whether Rebel Force can be used as source for the 0 ABY date
  • Unsourced BTS
  • BTS "canon" wording needs to be updated to reflect Legends terminology Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 16:37, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Skirmish at the ancient shrine
  • Certainly an image can be found for the Aftermath section?
  • BTS is improperly referenced. The game's start date can't be sourced to Star Wars: The Old Republic—Jedi Knight Mission: "Enemy Force" on Tython Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:51, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
• Kep-She/Legends — Behind the scenes not cited. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:51, September 12, 2018 (UTC)
• Kebla Yurt
  • Infobox exclusive info.
  • 1st behind the scenes paragraph has no citation tags.
  • Verify if The Taris Holofeed: Invasion Edition is a valid source for the 3963 BBY citation. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 14:51, September 12, 2018 (UTC)
• Battle of Kirrek
  • Fix redirects
  • BTS unsourced
  • SW.com Databank backup link not working
  • 5000 BBY needs proper referencing
  • "The battle" section would benefit from four smaller paragraphs instead of two, which will allow for another image. Subsectioning from there may also be ideal, which will allow for another quote. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:58, September 12, 2018 (UTC)
• Sith cave — Looks like a Redux candidate. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 15:37, September 15, 2018 (UTC)
• Adana (Human) — Infobox-exclusive information. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 15:24, September 16, 2018 (UTC)
• Lucia (soldier)
  • Redlink
  • BTS unsourced
  • Infobox-exclusive information
  • This portion of the P/T really belongs in a Skills and abilities section and/or Equipment section: Although Lucia was one of the youngest members of the Gloom Walkers, she was recognized as one of the best shots in the unit, and she carried a TC-17 sniper rifle into battle.
  • The BTS should note the source and artist for the character's first illustration
  • Personal note: If anyone is serious about fixing this article, you might as well just take it to FAN, as it's well over 1000 words but was nominated before the GAN began prohibiting 1000-word nominations. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 15:11, September 17, 2018 (UTC)
• Star Wars Rebels. The following Star Wars Rebels articles utilize unsatisfactory methods of date-referencing their respective events:
  • Nightsister crystal ball — Reference 16. This is not self-sourcing. Steps Into Shadow taking place in 2 BBY needs to be sourced to something: "The events of the Star Wars Rebels episode 'Visions and Voices,' which includes Maul's possession of the Nightsister crystal ball, take place after Star Wars Rebels: Steps Into Shadow, the first-known episode to take place in the second year before the Battle of Yavin." Additionally, there is no reason to ever link to a Senate Hall thread in a reference. If there's something in that SH that's being used to source this information, then that needs to be explained in this reference note.
  • Attack on Imperial interrogator droids — Reference 2. All of the "unknown" phrasing is particularly poor wording for a reference note. "...the animated television series Star Wars Rebels begins five years before the Battle of Yavin" is not self-sourcing and requires a reference. Additionally, formal writing should never use first- or second-person, such as I, you, or we. "We" aren't doing anything. The article is.
  • PM-1203. References 11 and 12. "...Star Wars Rebels: Spark of Rebellion, which takes place in the fifth year before the Battle of Yavin; and "Empire Day," which marks the beginning of the fourth year before the Battle of Yavin." and ""Empire Day," which marks the beginning of the fourth year before the Battle of Yavin; and "A Princess on Lothal," which is the first known episode to take place in the third year before the Battle of Yavin." are not self-sourcing statements. Additionally, there is no reason to ever link to a Senate Hall thread in a reference. If there's something in that SH that's being used to source this information, then that needs to be explained in this reference note." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 20:51, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Cake recipes to share

Expand as needed.

• Paperwork discussion. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:48, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
• Redux matters. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:21, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

Attendance

Keen for cake

1. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:41, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
2. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 21:48, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
3. Exiled Jedi (talk) 21:50, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
4. I'll probably make it. Imperators II^(Talk) 03:09, September 10, 2018 (UTC)
5. I should have enough time. MasterFred^(Whatever) 16:58, September 16, 2018 (UTC)

No time for tea

1. Something very unexpected came up. Imperators has my vote if I don't make it. 1358 ^(Talk) 14:33, September 22, 2018 (UTC)

Hot Gossip

Ayrehead

• Just in case.
  • Spare 4D6-J-A7, kill the others. Probe Xor. Ayrehead02 (talk) 21:41, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

Imp

• Spare 4D6-J-A7, kill BB-23 heavy blaster cannon, Seismic activity tea, Vob Bitas. Redux Sith cave, probe the rest. Tope gets my vote for anything else, if needed. Imperators II^(Talk) 19:28, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Minutes

Attendance

• Ayrehead02
• Exiledjedi
• Imperators II
• Master Fredcerique
• Toprawa and Ralltiir

Articles stripped of GA status

• BB-23 heavy blaster cannon
• Seismic activity team

Articles that maintained GA status

• 4D6-J-A7

Articles placed on probation

• Adana (Human)
• Attack on Imperial interrogator droids
• Battle of Kirrek (Unification Wars)
• Coruscant Underworld Police
• Kebla Yurt
• Kep-She/Legends
• Langoonan
• Lucia (soldier)
• Mak Luunim
• Nightsister crystal ball
• PM-1203
• Rotar Lopani
• Skirmish at the ancient shrine
• Xor

Articles sent to redux

• Sith cave

Discussion

• Motion to enact a paperwork deadline of one week was passed 5-0
• Motion to enact a requirement of 3 votes to remove an article from the Redux passed 5-0

Notes

• Log
• Fred schedules Meeting 109
• Fred does paperwork