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Per Forum:CT:Clarifying use of quote templates, the template was correct the first time. Please consider familiarizing yourself with this and other site policies before making edits to nominated articles. Thank you. —Axinal Convocation Chamber 20:54, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

  • Hey TK, your apology is accepted. Yes, typically, one or two speakers get the {{Quote}} template (no matter how long the quote is), and three or more get the {{Dialogue}} template. Hope this helps!
    • Great, best of luck with that! Please don't hesitate to ask for help if you encounter a problem. Cheers!—Axinal Convocation Chamber 13:06, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Signature

Please note that your current signature is in violation of Wookieepedia's signature policy, according to which you are allowed to have one link in addition to a user page link. You currently have two additional links. In addition, you are allowed to use two colors in the signature, not three, like yours. Cheers, 1358 (Talk) 11:39, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

RE: 97 BBY

No problem, year articles are a kind of passion for me. Imperators II 19:16, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

  • Sorry, but could you please specify where exactly in The Truce At Bakura does it mention that the droid uprising took place in 97 BBY? Imperators II 19:33, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Battle of Malastare

Hey TK-999, I've given Battle of Malastare a small review and made a few changes. If you're looking to nominate this as a good or featured article, you're well on your way, but here's a few things you should know:

  • Link EVERYTHING possible once in the intro, once in the infobox, and once in the main article.
  • Source EVERYTHING (including every bullet point in the infobox) except information in the introduction and, unless necessary, the behind the scenes section. Basically, if all information in a particular paragraph can be referenced to the same source, you can just source it once at the end of the paragraph. Otherwise, you will need to source more specifically, i.e., after a phrase or sentence (include the source after any surrounding punctuation, like commas or periods).
  • Generally, battle articles require an intro (which you have), a "Prelude" section (detailing why the battle took place and the events leading up to the battle), a "The battle" section (which you have), and an "Aftermath" section (detailing the events following the battle, and possibly explaining why future battles, like the one with the Zillo Beast on Coruscant, may have occurred because of the battle you're writing about).
  • Generally, redirects are frowned upon but not outright illegal. You didn't have many, but it's good to remember that something like stun tank should be linked as [[RX-200 Falchion-class assault tank/Legends|stun tank]].
  • Also, give context whenever you introduce a new object or individual. For example, a "treaty with the Dugs" is mentioned, but a brief phrase or sentence explaining what the treaty was all about would be helpful to new readers.
  • Other than that, the article looks pretty good, and could definitely make good- or featured article status with some hard work and dedication. If you're having trouble sourcing everything or getting all necessary information because you don't have all the sources, like Star Wars: The Clone Wars Character Encyclopedia or what-not, feel free to look around at other users' profiles. Many users list their book/DVD collections in their profiles, and most would be happy to look something up for you. Also, it's good to look at other good or featured articles and compare your article to theirs. Again, let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 19:54, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Battle of Malastare (II)

Well, basically it's what Axinal said. You have to link & source EVERYTHING. Every bulleted item. Also, have you tried asking JangFett (the one who put "Cleanup" tag up in the first place) for some advice on what else should be done?

I'm not too competent in GAs/FAs, but here's a few things I noticed in a quick overview:

  • "[..] one of the longest and fiercest engagements of the Clone Wars [..]" should be mentioned in the body of the article and sourced.
  • Are you sure "Malastarian" is the correct demonym?
  • I noticed the word "doge" written with a lowercase "d". Be consistent.
  • As Axinal mentioned, "stun tank" should be linked correctly (for example, in the caption below the picture of the tank).
  • There must be a reference at the end of EVERY paragraph (and after punctuation).
  • Don't forget to introduce the name of the Zillo Beast properly as such in the body of the article.
  • A "Behind the scenes" section should be written, too, where each appearance of the battle is at least mentioned.
  • Also, mind that no piece of information can be infobox-exclusive (that includes links).

I hope it helps... Imperators II 15:24, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

  • Not to butt in, but I noticed I added a few redirected links in the article when I gave it my brief copy-edit. B2 battle droid and walkers were both added by me. They should be [[B2 super battle droid/Legends|B2 super battle droid]] and [[Walker/Legends|walker]]s, respectively. TK, if you create a page called Special:MyPage/monobook.css or Special:MyPage/wikia.css (depending on whether you use Monobook or the default Wikia skin) and copy and paste "a.mw-redirect {color:darkorange}" into it, that will show redirected links in a different color, so they will be easy to spot and fix. Nice trick I learned from Master Fredcerique and Xd1358. Regarding the cleanup tag, I honestly think it's safe to remove. The article's not quite ready for a nomination, but most of the formatting fits within the Manual of Style and Layout Guide as far as I can see. You've made some great improvements, TK.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 15:41, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
    • No problem, TK. Follow the link provided for the .css page (whichever one fits the Wiki skin you use...which would be the /wiki.css one unless you manually changed the skin to use Monobook), create the page, and paste "a.mw-redirect {color:darkorange}" into it. That will allow you to spot redirects quickly.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 15:46, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
    • BTS section looks good. I'm going to be offline for a while, but here's a few things you can do:
      • Fix three remaining redirects on the page (Dug in the infobox, B2 battle droid and walkers in the main article).
      • Make sure to put the episode titles like "The Zillo Beast" in quotes.
      • Source the remaining information in the infobox, such as the conflict, place, outcome, etc.
      • A few paragraphs are referenced in multiple places, but to the same source. If the whole paragraph all comes from the same source, you only need to source it once, at the end.
      • You mention a treaty in the main body, but don't give it any context. Since the idea for the treaty was conceived before the battle (if I recall correctly), you can add something about it in the prelude section, at least describing what we know of it, like what it said and why it was being considered.
      • First names like "Anakin" and "Mace" should be used only when the characters are first introduced in the introduction and the main body (where they should be introduced as "Anakin Skywalker" and "Mace Windu". After that, it's best to use only last names, like Windu, or rank/title+last names, like Master Windu or General Windu.
      • A few other minor things, but I'm out of time for now. I'll check the article again later. Good work so far!—Axinal Convocation Chamber 16:04, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

TK, would it be all right with you if I gave the article another copy-edit? I see a few more things that could be fixed, but it would take longer to write it out on your talk page than to fix it myself.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 18:56, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Fanon

Please be a bit more careful. Reverting a link to the Star Forge is not removing fanon. Imperators II 18:21, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

  • No problem. By the way, thanks for sourcing the year articles. Imperators II 18:39, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

apology accepted --Darth owski 18:45, March 20, 2011 (UTC)Darth owski

Electrocution

I stand corrected. Feel free to revert it; you don't need permission. Korsa3 19:15, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Shigar Konshi

Please be more careful when "reverting fanon". Konshi was indeed sent to Nal Hutta, not Tatooine. Imperators II 15:26, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Help

I can't be much help in the TCW area (better ask someone like CC7567, the leader of WookieeProject The Clone Wars), but you could check whether the droid is destroyed by watching the episode on starwars.com. :) Also, if you're not sure of a given fact's canonicity, why do you reference it? ;D Imperators II 17:30, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Copy-edit

Hey TK, I gave Battle of Malastare a copy-edit. I improved some grammar and changed some links around. There's a few more things I think should be done:

  • The opening quote seems to refer more to the Zillo Beast incident than to the Battle of Malastare. Do you think you could find a better one?
  • Add Zillo Beast incident to the "next" part of the infobox and source it.
  • In the article, you say, "The two Jedi quarreled with Urus on the matter." Add some detail there. Why, exactly, were they quarreling?
  • Add some context when you introduce Doctor Sionver Boll. Also, you give context on Doge Nakha Urus the second time he is mentioned; try to move that context to the first introduction.
  • Something in the aftermath about Palpatine's permission to clone the creature might be a good addition.

Other than that, the article looks pretty good. If you want to nominate it for Good or Featured status, I have one more piece of advice: Dedicate yourself to the article, and don't give up. The AgriCorps and the Inquisitorius are going to tear the article apart line by line, and probably ask that you rewrite several sentences, paragraphs, or maybe even entire sections. Most of them will probably give it their own copy edit and maybe add some redlinks and ask that you create the respective pages. The nomination process typically takes at least a week, and in the case of a longer article like this, probably several weeks or maybe months, and I can say from experience that their seemingly-endless demands are going to be very discouraging. But, if you keep at it, be sure to address all their concerns properly, and thank them each for their help and their review, this article could definitely be Good or Featured. You've done an impressive job so far; just keep up the good work and you'll be rewarded. If there's anything else you need, let me know. Cheers!—Axinal Convocation Chamber 18:34, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Wookeepedian

Wait, it says two guys are being nominated. One is me. The other, well I forget his username, but are you sure it's a magic word? It says something about hating one of the nominees, which is the one with my username. --AnyGuy 16:57, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Battle of Malastare

Hey TK, I'm just wondering out of curiosity if you're planning on nominating Battle of Malastare. I think it definitely has potential. Cheers!—Axinal Convocation Chamber 20:18, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

  • Great! I'll certainly take the time to give a thorough review in the near future.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 18:42, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Zillo Beast incident

Hey TK, that's an excellent question. The Republic side would be pretty easy to fill in in a battle infobox; for the other side, you could probably just have Zillo Beast for the side, commanders, forces, and casualties. I couldn't really say whether or not this would be better than a generic "event" infobox, but I honestly don't think it would be any worse. My suggestion is you make the necessary edits and use the "preview" button before saving it. If you like how it looks, go ahead and save it; I don't think anyone will have a problem with it. You've made some excellent edits so far in your short time here. If there's anything else I can do, let me know. Cheers!—Axinal Convocation Chamber 19:41, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Suggestion

Hey thanks so much for the tip! I love the way it looks-- so organized and professional! Thanks again! -Cc-7567 lover

FYI

Please don't edit the content of others' user pages or talk pages, like you did here. They are allowed to not use proper templates and you shouldn't modify them without asking first. Cheers, 1358 (Talk) 11:56, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I've seen you've been active on the antivandalism front; that's great! I've also seen you warn vandals "manually"—no need for that, we have a bunch of premade templates that you can use. :) Cheers. 1358 (Talk) 17:03, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Battle of Malastare

Hey TK-999. Regarding the Battle of Malastare: in the future, please try to check the WP:TCW page for reserved projects, as members of the WookieeProject tend to reserve articles that they plan to work on in the future. I myself had reserved Malastare a while back, and while I don't bear any ill will (as these things do tend to happen), I would just like to make sure that you are fully prepared to take this article to GA status—I'm not trying to dissuade you from promoting the article, but I just want to make sure that you're prepared to. I'm not sure if all of the source material is covered in the article, as I simply haven't checked, and I'm not sure either if the Sources list is complete. There's the potential that issues from the Star Wars: The Clone Wars Comic UK may reference the battle, at the very least, so those need to be checked for info, which I didn't have the chance to do before the article got nominated.

Secondly, this is not technically speaking an official rule, but if a user nominates an article for a GAN or FAN, it is simply assumed that the entire article—in other words, every single word, formatting piece, and otherwise—represents the user's work and that the user stands by all of it. It's perfectly fine if you chose to base the article's intro off what was already there, but the only reason I mention this is because nominators tend to write their articles from scratch so that they completely reflect their own work. The article also needs to follow the GAN Rules and all policies on Wookieepedia, though I haven't scrutinized the article for this either. I would recommend going through the article and confirming that the article meets the requirements of a GAN, and that you are willing to address the areas where it may be more lacking.

I hope this advice is helpful; I just want to make sure that whoever is promoting the article is equipped to do so given the article's plethora of source material. Please don't hesitate to contact me with any questions. Thanks, and again, no harm done. :) CC7567 (talk) 06:03, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

  • It wouldn't be proper for me to become a co-nominator for the article because I simply haven't worked on it at all. As for the intro, again, it's entirely up to you how you handle it, but the article should reflect the proper amount of detail of even a Featured Article, just because the battle has received so much source coverage. I would encourage you to browse through some of the Battle FAs —particularly some TCW battles—to see what level of detail is expected from these kinds of articles. The intro itself should be written from a chronological point of view and not just a general POV that only mentions certain parts of the battle. CC7567 (talk) 05:13, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Thanks

No problem, TK; as for Ramy, the article still has some informalities like parentheses, but overall it follows the Manual of Style and Layout Guide pretty well, so I think it's safe to remove that.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 16:28, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Missing sources

Well, no sources are missing from what I can see; I only have access to the two episodes and their respective episode guides, and the article covers them thoroughly as far as I'm concerned. CC7567 believes that the battle may be mentioned in one or more issues of Star Wars: The Clone Wars Comic UK, however. If this is accurate, those sources will need to be added to the "Appearances". You may have to do some research, possibly by finding another user who has access to those comics.—Axinal Convocation Chamber 17:50, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Possible sockpuppet

Good catch. I don't have CheckUser powers, but I was able to confirm that their IP addresses are the same. I've left warnings on both accounts' talk pages; if you catch both of them editing at some point, let me know and I'll take care of them. Grand Moff Tranner 20px (Comlink) 14:51, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

picture

i tried to change my pic (the thing next to my name) and it only let me pick between 5 things, i couldnt find a place to upload my own pic. was wondering how or where i would go to upload a pic?

Re:Vandal

Nice work, TK. :)—Axinal Convocation Chamber 17:01, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Vandolay

Hello TK-999, I hope this does not come off as begging, because it is not intended to be, but since you edited an article (Vandolay) that is currently a GA nom, can you also edit the nomination page, either supporting or writing an objection of some sort? Hanzo Hasashi 15:13, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Verify

Hi, just so you know, you can save time when notifying people about a {{Verify}} tagging by putting {{Vw|name of article|~~~~}} on their page. Unless you prefer to leave your own messages, both are fine really ;) NAYAYEN 17:39, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

  • Ah, no worries, I guess using big red boxes is more popular nowadays :P NAYAYEN 17:45, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Star Wars Cheats Wiki Spamming

Hi TK-999 Thanks for your post on my talk page about the spamming thing. I don't contribute to that wiki any more.

Regards

Sam2011 20px @ Wookieepedia (Talk) 11:26, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

Unfortunately, I do not have access to the Check User extension. Grunny does, so any check user requests should be directed to him. However, I will warn the two accounts and keep an eye on them. Thanks for the heads-up :) - Cavalier One20px(Squadron channel) 12:57, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thankyou but can you think of a time when a jedi or a sith used the force to increase their strength, remove fatigue toxins and lift heavy stuff like we normal people due under the influence of adreneline only greater?Darth Grieve 19:19, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re: No prob

I need something to do before dinner anyway. Trak Nar Ramble on 22:10, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Undoing

Hey there TK, please remember to warn the user whose edit you undid. This helps to catch repeat offenders. Thanks. :) 1358 (Talk) 14:35, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

  • No worries. Good to see you being an active editor. :) 1358 (Talk) 14:47, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

User page format

Replying to your question to Axinal: I don't think that there is a need for such a measure, as there are a lot of non-English Star Wars wikis. Secondly, you are free to use my user page format, but please remove those userboxes that do not pertain to you and text I have written. Copying text from my user page without requesting my permission and/or attributing me is a form of copyright violation, since all text on Wookieepedia is released under CC-BY-SA. Thank you for your cooperation.—TK-999 (Rise of the Empire) 13:15, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

I am not using your text, I am still editing my page, sorry if appeares so, but i am cleaning up the mess, I know that that is a standard template, so i used it, i am still cleaning up, so it will take some time. AddyCWebs|Please leave a message after the BEEP! 13:19, May 6, 2011 (UTC)