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Clone Wars Screenshots

Do you know what articles could use pictures, clone wars stuff specifically. I have season 1,2 and 3 on DVD and can capture pictures from them. Just need to know what could use some. Matt Seay (talk) 23:48, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

I can think of a few, but they need info and pics from Season 4 though. Pretty sure season 1-3 has already been covered, best I can say is look through what appears in the seasons and see if they are missing anything. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 23:51, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

  • Is this image of good enough quality to go in an article. I am not saying I will jump on it and it to to Dooku's article but I wanna know if I finally got the qualty right. Matt Seay (talk) 05:19, August 15, 2012 (UTC) thumb|Does this look like a good quality image?
    • If you just focusing on Dooku yes it's good quality but when looking at a whole, you can't see the people in the background though. You can tell they are there, but not really what species they are, their gender, or what they are wearing. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 05:23, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • In the movie this shot has that depth of field in it. The shot in the movie was just Dooku anyway. Matt Seay (talk) 05:26, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Infoboxes

Hey Revan,

Thanks for creating so many articles lately. You're doing a great job.

A tip about infoboxes: Infoboxes are separated into sections, and if a section is empty, you can actually hide it. So, in 301st Infantry, you can hide the empty "Historical information" section by adding a "1" after the "hideh" parameter (like so!). Empty infobox sections should always be hidden. Play around with it next time you create an article; it'll be a great way to get used to doing it.

Thanks again, and good luck! Menkooroo (talk) 05:46, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Czerka Blasters

I need help finding info and sources for Czerka 300, Czerka 530 and Czerka 640. I created articles for them but I can not find anymore info or any sources, they are listed on the Czerka Arms article so they must be cannon but if I can not get any thing on these they will have to be removed, can you help me with this? Matt Seay (talk) 09:29, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

  • If they can not be found anywhere I think they should not even be on the Czerka Arms article then. Just hope we can find something on them. Matt Seay (talk) 02:18, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
    • Well I guess what I should have said is in the reference books I own they haven't been mentioned, but they may have been mentioned or a pic of them in some reference book I don't have. I'll double check the weapons one I got and see if their mentioned. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 02:28, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • Then I guess they are not cannon. Well, so much for that. Matt Seay (talk) 03:28, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • The articles will be deleted in a week if no sources can be found for the. Matt Seay (talk) 03:43, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
    • Best I can say is look through the site and see if it's in the appearances of the books, games, movies, reference books and so on. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 03:48, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
    • Just a heads up for both of you: there is absolutely no reason you should create articles if you don't know what sources they appear in or if you don't have any info on the subject. The articles will just be deleted. Don't create articles just to fill in redlinks. Just because you don't know what sources they appear in doesn't mean other users don't, and therefore please leave the article creation to those users who have the sources. Cade Calrayn 20px 03:51, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • I started doing that, i will continue to do so. Thanks for the help anyway. Matt Seay (talk) 03:52, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • I'd say the articles meet the standards here. Had in isue with copying text and not changing it but fixed that. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 03:59, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • This is the only time I have made articles without sources, well, that I did not know the source for. Other times I have had the sources. Matt Seay (talk) 04:03, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • They don't meet the standards here because all articles must have an appearance or a source listed. Just let these be deleted an, if you find a source for them, create them again later. No worries. Just remember that Wookieepedia is not a source and, however hrad we try, not everything on it is canon. Things that aren't referenced are to be taken with a heaping serving of salt. NaruHina Talk 14px 06:33, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • Yeah, it's no big deal really, I am sure info on these will turn up some time. But, until then, no need in keeping them. I am sorry I created the article sin the first place. But, no big deal, delete them. Matt Seay (talk) 06:36, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

userbooxes

Might I suggest using a scroll box for your user boxes. It helps kepp thing nice and tidy. And the huge gap on your article, it might help that.... just a suggestion. Matt Seay (talk) 06:32, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

  • Hadn't really thought of it before, but it would make it nice and tidy. Do believe I will do that, thanks for the idea. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 06:34, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • You can check out my profile and see how I have mine set up and tell me what ya think. Matt Seay (talk) 06:43, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
    • Yours is set up pretty nice. Did notice your favorites and I tend to agree. Do have a question for ya. Saw that you set up you favorite eras, and left out the Legacy era. Is there something you don't like about that era, or just didn't add it? DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 06:48, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • Just the comics. I know more about the other eras. Its still pretty cool. How they go that far in the future with it though. Matt Seay (talk) 06:59, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
    • Ic the first series in the era was good, the Jaden Korr duology ruled, Millenium Falcon ruled, and fate of the jedi was good, had issues with it though, find it hard to picture what Abeloth can do. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 07:04, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • I am trying to get my collection growing again. It's been kinda hard recently but nevertheless I will get more Star Wars stuff. Matt Seay (talk) 07:07, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
    • If you order online you can get them for a fair price on Amazon, and new releases are half price the day they are released, better to pay $15 for a new hardcover and wait anywhere from 3 days to 2 weeks to arrive than $30 and get it that day, or at least that's my opinion. Plan on hitting Barnes and Noble when they get here to help finish my collection, getting there what I can't get online. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 07:11, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • I may do that. Matt Seay (talk) 07:13, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
    • Be sure to get Death Troopers and Red Harvest. They're Star Wars's attempt to mix with horror, and the Author Joe Schreiber did a great job with them. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 07:19, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
  • Yeah, death troopers is about zombies, i like zombie.....Matt Seay (talk) 07:23, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yorr

Looks like I need sources and info from Behind the Magic and the Rebellion Era source book. Can you help me with some of this? Matt Seay (talk) 00:46, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I added more info from the Rebellion era sourcebook. Check it out, tell me how I am doing. Matt Seay (talk) 02:49, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

It has actually passed into enough words to be a GAN, but I need to work on it more before I go a head and move it up to GAN. Matt Seay (talk) 02:55, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

It still needs work, but I am working on what everyone says needs fixing. I added Behind the Magic back as a source because he is mentioned in the script which is on the program. Matt Seay (talk) 22:01, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

  • Good be sure to mention in Behind the Scenes how he was mentioned it what source, and what he first appeared in and so on. If you need help, holler and I'll do what I can. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 00:43, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
  • You own the novelization of ROTJ, there is a deleted scene that features Yorr in there. Can you take a look at the novel and add that info, I do not own this novel to know the info myself. Matt Seay (talk) 00:52, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • The version I own is when they put all three movies novels in one. I'll check to see if it includes the scene and add the info. Do you know around what part of the movie the scene was deleted from? DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 00:57, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

The Website I got some info from said that it is an extended version of the scene that of the one he shows up in within Jedi. Matt Seay (talk) 01:00, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

  • That is what I meant, the site did an interview with the actor who played Yorr and he said his scene was longer and he had a hard time remembering all of his dialog. I was told I that the parts that were cut out of the movie are in the novel and that it needed to be added. Matt Seay (talk) 01:11, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • Odd he only has 7 lines at most in the novel counting each sentence as a line. Well I'll add it if you still want me to, also you want me to add a quote to the page from one on his lines? DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 01:17, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
  • I added the lines he says in the movie. If you found anything he says in the book that he does not say in the movie please fell free to add it. Matt Seay (talk) 01:19, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
  • Okay thanks, this is info that needs to be on there but I do not have the source to add it myself. Thanks. Matt Seay (talk) 01:26, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • This is what I'm thinking of adding want to see what you think before I hit save. "Upon arriving at the station Your requested clearance to land and transmitted the transmission code. The port controller said that the shield would be deactivated when the code was comfirmed. Yorr told him to hurry saying that their passenger was in no mood to wait." DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 01:45, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
  • Sounds good to me. As long as it is sourced to the novel and placed in the right section. It should be fine. Matt Seay (talk) 01:48, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
          • Sourced to the novel and added behind where it says he piloted the shuttle carring Vader to the Death Star II. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 01:50, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • Okay, thanks, this is coming a long nicley I think. Matt Seay (talk) 01:53, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
  • Is there any more info from the Novel that can be added to either Bio or Personality and Traits? Also can you fix the Citation for the website I used, with cutweb, I do not now how, I keep doing it wrong. Matt Seay (talk) 02:03, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • Not really. The whole thing that he is included in the novel is "In the cockpit the shuttle captain and his copilot made final readings, monitored descent functions. It was a sequence they'd each performed a thousand times, yet there was an unusual tension in the air now. The captain flipped the transmitter switch, and spoke into his mouthpiece. “Command Station, this is ST31. Code Clearance Blue. We're starting our approach. Deactivate the security shield.” Static filled over the reciever; then the voice of the port controller: “The security deflector shield will be deactivated when we have confirmation of you code transmission. Stand by...” Once more silence filled the cockpit. The shuttle captain bit the inside of his cheek, smiled nervously at his copilot, and muttered, “Quick as you can, please–this better not take long. He's in no mood to wait...” They refrained from glancing back into the passenger section of the shuttle, now under lights-out for landing. The unmistakable sound of the mechanical breathing coming from the chamber's shadow filled the cabin with a terrible impatience." That is the only section he is in that I can find. If you can give me a page number or what exactly is needed then I'll add what I left out. I can try on the citation, but may not be very helpful never used it myself either. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 02:11, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • I guess something could be mentioned about how he was afraid to look back at Vader while they were waiting. Beyond a brief mention of how he was feeling as they were approaching the Death Star is about it. And thanks if you can. Matt Seay (talk) 02:16, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • Allright fixed the cite and will do that. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 02:19, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
      • Hows this for either bio or personality and traits. "Yorr was worried about how Vader might react while having to wait to land, and was afraid to look at the Dark Lord himself during the flight." DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 02:28, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • Well, I tried, it has failed the nomination. Well, this whole thing did help get this article some attention and get info added to it. But nevertheless, it did not be come a good article. And yeah add that it sounds good. Matt Seay (talk) 02:28, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
      • We can always nominate it again. But before we do we must take care of every single objective from the last nomination. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 02:32, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
        • I'm going to creat a sub-page off my userpage to keep the objectives there and we can strike them off as we take care of them since it will be a live page. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 02:34, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
  • Yeah, its okay, I was just trying to see if I could take on this much work on article. Hey, I almost got blocked until I told someone I had actually read the Rebellion era source book and told them what page Yorr's picture is on. That is how dedicated I was to this project. Now imagine if I were working on a major character the dedication I would put in. Matt Seay (talk) 02:36, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • Saw that. You were extemely dedicated to the project. The site can definately use someone like you. Well I'm gonna create the sub-page and get the article taken care of so it can be nominated again. If you want to help feel free to join in. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 02:41, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
  • Yeah sure thing, whatever I can do to help. One thing I need to stay away from is the phrase "Doing my best" and "I'm trying". Those phrases have kinda gone stale with the admins by now. Matt Seay (talk) 02:44, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Duel nom

Sure, I'll look at it later today.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 07:21, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

  • Cool thanks. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 07:28, August 16, 2012 (UTC)
    • I'm going to do some work on it, please observe my edits and such to see what I did, so you can learn from it. I will also leave things for you to do, so that you can learn, and give you some tips.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 14:29, August 16, 2012 (UTC)
  • Allright good deal. Cade wanted me to re-write the whole thing when I first nominated it so I just re-wrote most of it hope it helped. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 18:36, August 16, 2012 (UTC)
    • I apologize for not getting to it today, it was a horrible day for me… I promise I'll do more work on it tomorrow.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 03:42, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Ref tags

Hey Revan, per WP:S, please avoid adding in {{Ref}} tags outside the infoboxes. You are fine with just <ref name>. Please take a look at the policy. Thanks, JangFett (Talk) 02:34, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

  • My bad. Will change that and follow that from now on. Just went with adding that since before I went with how you said and other users changed it to the template. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 02:37, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

ROTJ Junior Novel & Anointed Screenplays

Need info from these sources. How can I get it, who should I ask? Matt Seay (talk) 04:49, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

  • Well ROTJ junior can stay, but we should have solid info on the Anointed Screenplay. I have already posted a forum in the Knowledge Bank on that and just have to wait for someone to answer. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 04:54, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Alright then, I am sure that the Junior novel says about the same as the other novelization anyway. Matt Seay (talk) 04:57, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

  • More or less. I use to own all the junior novelizations they are basically the same, except it has some new stuff, mostly just updating with recent canon and is written for kids. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 04:59, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
  • Yeah the Jedi Apprentice novel are junior novels, but I like them, so what if they are "supposed" to be for kids. Matt Seay (talk) 05:03, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • I don't mean anything against them, I also like the Jedi Apprentice novels, was just stating that it was primarily meant for kids. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 05:07, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
  • Oh, I know. I was just saying that you don't to be a kid to like certain novels like that. Matt Seay (talk) 05:11, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • True, hell I was reading the "Adult" novels when I was 12. Funny part was I understood more about it than most the people older than me. First one I read was Vector Prime. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 05:14, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
  • Any response on the Knowledge Bank yet? Matt Seay (talk) 05:17, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Uploading

Hey Rev, can you make me a check list of things that I must do before uploading images, so I do not run the risk of getting blocked. Thanks if you can. Matt Seay (talk) 07:21, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

I guess the steps I need to go through so I can remember each time I want to upload something. Matt Seay (talk) 07:35, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah pretty much, I was told if I could get a check list to help me know what I needs to do it could help me. I guess, just what I need to do and how I need to do it. Matt Seay (talk) 07:41, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

  • I made a generic one. If there is something I didn't cover that you think you should know ask one of the admins. More than likely left it out since never used it and don't know anything about it.
  1. Always include a source if its a clone wars episode use {{TCW}} followed by the episode intise it. The liscense is television screenshot. If its something else use [[]] around it.
  2. Generic fair use is say something you get from google that you know the actual source it was in.
  3. Always provide an accurate and appropriate description.
  4. Make sure it's under 10mb. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 07:54, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, sometimes I forget to put my clone wars screenshots under TV episodes and just use fair use. Matt Seay (talk) 07:57, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Merge

Good catch! Confer with an admin to merge the page, so that they can redirect the article. You might want to upload an image of the email, make sure it's readable, with your name blotted out, and you should be good to go. BTS, yes… Upload the image first, show it to an admin or an Inq or CA, say, Menkooroo or CC7567, and place the relevant info to Skirmish on Korriban, so that the old article may be deleted.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 07:52, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Merge

All you need to do to merge the articles is move all of the relevant info over from one article to the other, so that it's consolidated as one. You can then redirect the old article into the consolidated article. Let me know if you have any specific questions. CC7567 (talk) 19:33, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

  • The merge template is only for discussion about merging, not taking care of the merge itself, which you seem to have done already. All you need to do is redirect the defunct page into the consolidated one to complete the merge. CC7567 (talk) 22:05, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
    • Yes, that is what you do for redirects. CC7567 (talk) 22:10, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

"Revival" image

Unreleased episodes such as "Revival" cannot be used as sources for images. Please specify exactly where File:MaulRevival.jpg is from; otherwise it will be deleted as an improperly sourced image. Thank you. CC7567 (talk) 00:33, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Edit Page issues

I am having issues with the "edit page". The Standard preloads and Custom preload options are in the middle of the page, right beside the options on the left. What could be the deal? Matt Seay (talk) 21:56, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Conflicts form Jedi Apprentice books

I am trying to get all the conflicts, wars etc from the Jedi Apprentice books sorted out. The wars with their battles together and so forth. It is quite a task. Matt Seay (talk) 03:35, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

If you don't mind. The hard part is having the missions/battles link to the conflicts they belong to. Matt Seay (talk) 03:38, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

  • You'll have to help me out on what goes where, since I haven't read the series since grade school and not sure what goes before what, and what is in what crisis and so on. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 03:41, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

All that needs to be sorted is the Melida/Daan Civil War. Battle of Bin needs to be sorted between Twenty-first and twenty second battle of Zehava, Matt Seay (talk) 03:47, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

They need to be sorted with Mission to Gala. They are part of the same conflict. And as long Mission to Melida/Daan is the last on the Melida/Daan civil war. Matt Seay (talk) 03:52, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, cool. Matt Seay (talk) 03:55, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, cool. I will fix the small things later, unless someone gets to them before I do. I will have to make an article for Gala crisis. Matt Seay (talk) 04:01, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Talk pages

Please stop creating talk pages for random articles. They are not necessary, and it clogs the Recent Changes feed. Talk pages are only necessary if there is a discussion on the article. Thank you. Cade Calrayn 20px 03:13, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

  • The admins don't seem to have a problem with it. Until one says something, then I shall assume they don't care if I create them or not. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 03:17, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
    • The talk pages aren't necessary, so why create them? It's considered edit-count spamming, to be frank, and it's generally looked down upon by other users. What do believe you are accomplishing by creating them? Cade Calrayn 20px 03:22, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
    • While it's not prohibited, I hope you realize that you're accomplishing nothing, and it looks rather silly. If you're trying to inflate your overall editcount, then bravo, but we don't actually care about the overall editcount here, we only care about edits that matter. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 03:24, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
      • While I am trying to make my edit count higher it's not by creating talk pages. Every page has one doesn't hurt to create them, and there's no rule against them, less than 1/8 of my edits come from creating talk pages so I personnally don't count them in my edits. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 03:30, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
        • But when they interfere with other users' ability to patrol the Wook by clogging the Recent Changes feed, there's really no point to create them—creating them is actually detrimental. Cade Calrayn 20px 03:33, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
          • I haven't created that many of them, and the one's I create don't interfere any more then the one's by SFH or other users. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 03:35, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
          • Marking topics as part of projects is not the same thing as just creating a page for {{Talkheader}}. It's actually encouraged, though it should not be a major part of what someone does. I don't rally feel one way or the other about it, but you can filter talk page edits temporarily, Cade. Few of them get answered anyway. NaruHina Talk 14px 03:40, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
            • Creating user talk pages is a community role that SFH (as an admin) performs quite regularly along with other users, and please don't try to drag other users into this. As long as you refrain from making further talk pages except when necessary, it'll be fine. Cade Calrayn 20px 03:41, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
            • Wasn't dragging him into it just mentioning it, and as Naru pointed out it is encouraged to do so with marking it as part of a project. My mainspace edits far outnumber my talk page edits. I make sure that editing mainspace pages my top priority. While you may not see it as necessary some other might. Also as Naru said you can always filter out talk page edit's temporarily. If you feel this strongly about feel free to take it to an Admin. I won't be the one to stop you. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 03:47, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
              • You do realize that Darth Culator is an admin, right? And he was politely asking you to stop? I'm not concerned about your edit-count—I could care less—but it's interfering with the ability of other users to use the RC, as the filter function is broken for many users. Please, just be more sparing in your creation of talk pages. Not every article needs one. Cade Calrayn 20px 03:53, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
                • Yes I know he is in admin, and he really didn't tell me to stop he said it's no prohibited, that I have "accomplished nothing" which he and I differ on, that overall edit count they don't care for, and that they care only about mainspace edits. No where in there does it scream stop. If he wants me to stop, I'm sure he'd flat out say it. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 03:58, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
  • I would like to ask all involve parties to forgo the antagonistic tone here. There is no need to make a dispute over this issue. Furthermore, there is no rule against creating mainspace talk pages, so discouraging users from doing so is not helpful—there are ways to filter the Recent Changes, as has already been pointed out. Unless there is a productive aspect to continuing this discussion, and unless it can continue in a more civil tone, everyone (and I mean everyone) needs to cool down and move on. CC7567 (talk) 07:15, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Update

Ive noticed that some articles arent up to date and Im not sure if you guys know so Im just going to tell you. The Clone Wars Project is back, and It is progressing so I think some of you guys might want to look into that and update some articles on involved characters, planets, and so forth. I just figured Id let you know, the new episodes come on television from 9:30 to 10:00am on saturday on Cartoonnetwork if you dont know.68.39.34.213 02:16, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Lightsaber pages

In general, individual lightsaber articles are strongly discouraged unless they have significant notability, which is usually determined by the community. You are welcome to create lightsaber articles, but be aware that a number of them will be deleted. CC7567 (talk) 07:56, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re: WookieeProject

The listing of current WookieeProjects can be found here. There is no criteria for creating a WookieeProject; however, it is highly recommended that they engage the whole community. The most successful WookieeProjects, like WP:LE, WP:VG, WP:TOR, and WP:TCW, are still in operation because their topic subjects had a large following even prior to the project's creation. CC7567 (talk) 23:02, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the correction. I probably zoned out when I typed the date. ToRsO bOy (talk) 02:25, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Darth Nox

So's you know the Sith Inquistor's name isn't Darth Nox. That's relative to the game ending only. Title is not canonical. So could you please stop changing it? It's irritating. Cause I'll just keep putting it to what it SHOULD be. Or I could use the other 2 titles of Darth Imperius or Darth Occulus. Title isn't canon, nor was it deemed canon. The Blitzkrieg talk 07:41, August 23, 2012‎ (UTC)

  • First sign your posts. Second the article follows the dark side story where he is named darth nox it was chosen by the community on here. Keep changing it back and you will be blocked by an admin. DarthRevan1173 (Long live Lord Revan) 07:43, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Timeline of books

If you have an issue with the article, you should be posting something on the talk page, not coming to me. The community is whom you should be talking to, not an administrator. CC7567 (talk) 03:06, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

  • If it's completely necessary, then a thread in the Senate Hall should be made. CC7567 (talk) 03:26, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

Shadow Games

DarthRevan, what's your source as to when the novel Shadow Games takes place? I admit that I have not read the book (have you?), so I'm trying to decipher it's placement in the timeline. Here's what I've learned so far:

The Star Wars Books facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150120719598713&set=a.475619223712.256257.67519418712&type=3&theater), says it's 2 years BBY, but if you look at where they've placed it in their slideshow, it's placed after "Death Star" which is 1-0 years BBY. Additionally, the Shadow Games labels itself as being in the Rebellion Era and after (or during) the same time as the novel Death Star.

Finally, the folks over at starwarsfanworks.com have put in a lot of effort of creating a timeline that includes nearly every bit of Star Wars lore. They place Shadow Games during the period 1-0 years BBY as well. You can find their placement of Shadow Games on page 773 of SWTG50V1.pdf --Muju (talk) 04:37, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

  • I don't own the book myself, but I got a buddy that does and from him I've learned it takes place in 2 BBY, where the Rebellion era starts in 0 BBY so it can't be in rebellion era when it isn't even that time yet. It takes place before Death Star not after, and the other sites go off the Del Rey timeline which isn't always right. Fan works isn't an offical source, and the facebook timeline follows the Del Rey one. DarthRevan1173 20px (Long live Lord Revan) 04:48, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
  • I understand fan works aren't an official source, but you didn't seem to provide an official source either. Your only source seems to be a friend who told you it was 2 BBY. Do you have an official source that you're using? Because I would very much like to see it.
The fan works source I provided appears to be very thorough, and he specifically addresses the issue of where Shadow Games fits in the timeline is vague. Here is what he has to say with regards to the placement of Shadow Games:
"Placing this story is difficult in light of Rebel Dawn trying to cover most of Han’s activities prior to ANH. The novel’s time frame is kept somewhat vague, but we know that Chewbacca is on Kashyyyk with his new child, Lumpawarrump, so Han is alone. That would seem to indicate either Chewie returning to Kashyyyk late in Rebel Dawn (say in the last chapter or so), or Han leaving Chewie on Kashyyyk after the interlude in Rebel Dawn between Chapters 9 and 10, since we don’t actually see Chewie in Rebel Dawn after that interlude until the middle of Chapter 11. This also leaves some room for Han to go on this mission and might very well leave enough time to pass (months) between Shadow Games and the next time Han runs into Dash in the end of Rebel Dawn. Unfortunately, this solution also has to ignore that Han has already set some kind of Kessel Run record that Dash is trying to beat, and it sounds as though (from one line in Shadow Games) that Han has already dumped Jabba’s spice, which would put it much closer to ANH, perhaps during the last chapter or so of Rebel Dawn. In that case, though, why would Han need money to pay back Jabba if he has a hefty fee from Javul’s mission? It’s a contradictory set of information in Shadow Games, but this is my best guess at a placement that makes logical sense."
Let me know what you think. --Muju (talk) 17:39, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
  • True however you still need an official source to place it in the Rebellion era. With 2 BBY takeing place in Rise of the Empire that automatically places it before Death Star and not in Rebellion era. If you want to place it back in Rebellion era I suggest you contact Del Rey and Shelly Sharpio about the timeline of the book otherwise the edit will be undone by me or other users on here. DarthRevan1173 12px (Long live Lord Revan) 23:23, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
  • But, who is saying that is should be placed at 2 BBY? And why is 2 BBY the default placement for it? --Muju (talk) 02:55, August 28, 2012 (UTC)
    • According to the Shadow Games page it says the Facebook timeline. Which many other users have said was incorrect with it happening after the Death Star novel and same for Del Rey timeline. Best way I can figure on how to finally figure out the placement is send a message to either the authors or to Shelly Shapiro. Wouldn't mind placing it back in Rebellion after Death Star if that where it truly belongs. But before we do that we should have official confirmation from her or the authors that way the edit can't be challenged. DarthRevan1173 12px (Long live Lord Revan) 03:03, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Sig picture

Hey there, Revan. Per WP:SIG, your signature image needs to be smaller. It says 20 pixels in height. The 20 you have right now is in width. It should be small enough that it doesn't press the space between lines. Thanks! NaruHina Talk 14px 05:28, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

3654 BBY olive branch

I notice you edited the 54/53 pages to reflect the Empire offering peace in 3654 BBY. Do you have a reference for that somewhere? (Note that I'm not criticising, I'm curious and would like to know if we can confirm it =) ) — DigiFluid(Whine here) 01:14, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Source

Using {{WebCite}}, yes. CC7567 (talk) 13:26, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Novels

Thanks, but I don't do that much in terms of novels. You're welcome to keep on asking around if you want to. CC7567 (talk) 14:13, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

About the Novel WookieeProject's focus

Hey, Revan. I was just wondering why you've started marking non-book articles like Talk:Darth Scabrous' HK droid or Talk:Darth Karrid with WP:N's talk page template. They aren't novels. One of your project's missions can be the updating of articles for books, but to say that anything that originated from a book is within your scope is to say you don't have a WookieeProject: a group of people who want to work on a specific group of articles. Just given the type of Expanded Universe Star Wars has, amost any article you wanted to write would fall into your project. WP:VG gets away with everything in video games being within their scope because that's still specific, not nearly every article here. NaruHina Talk 14px 19:51, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Ben Skywalker

I noticed that you removed my added statement on the Ben Skywalker page, which said "and that if he had given in to his hate and struck down Caedus, he would have become like Darth Vader, possibly for the rest of his life." It's not "unverified", rather it's from "Fury", page 100. "And if I had killed him that day, I would have turned into Darth Vader." "Maybe. For a while." "Maybe forever." --DarthKenny (talk) 22:01, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

  • I have read that book aand don't remember it, you can add it back and be sure to source it this time. And I won't remove it, unless sense I'm re-reading tempest now when I get to fury if it isn't there in the book it will be removed. DarthRevan1173 12px (Long live Lord Revan) 09:31, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Millennium Falcon

The order of listing in the appearances section is based on the first non-flashback scene in the novel. The first non-flashback scene of Millennium Falcon is in 60 BBY. NaruHina Talk 14px 17:56, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

The Old Republic character articles

Are you actually referencing the game itself when you write all these articles about TOR characters? I ask because you haven't been including hair/eye color in them. -LtNOWIS (talk) 06:47, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

  • I was creating articles for some of the characters in the game, since I don't have a comp that can play the game mose I can do is create them with what I already know of them from this site. Usually look around for a pic of them and update them from that and so on. DarthRevan1173 12px (Long live Lord Revan) 06:52, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
    • Well you don't want to base articles off of what you read here. Unless you're actually making stuff based off the source itself, you can't insure reliability of facts. And a sentence-long article with a mostly empty infobox isn't any better than a redlink. So yeah, please don't write TOR articles unless you're actually basing them off the game or another official source. -LtNOWIS (talk) 06:59, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
      • Ok then. No one else had a problem with them. Won't write another TOR article. DarthRevan1173 12px (Long live Lord Revan) 07:02, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
        • For the record, Revan, it wasn't just NOWIS that had a problem. We—not just the two of us, either—noticed this when I found that screenshot of Haley Organa, showing he was male. You were not only omitting the hair and eye colors, you were determining gender from the name. I don't believe you could have been sure that he was a girl when you wrote the stub, as it wasn't true, and that seems your most likely rationale for that assumtion. A redlink should not be filled when you don't really know anything about the subject other than its name. NaruHina Talk 14px 07:25, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
  • I know, I know. Won't ever happen again. DarthRevan1173 12px (Long live Lord Revan) 07:27, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Sacrifice

Hey, Revan. Would you mind checking to see if the typos were corrected for the paperback version? The "Bothuwai" typo is in Chapter 13, six paragraphs before the scenery switch to the Jedi Council Chamber and the "Tepheron" one is Chapter 22. For the latter, go to Chapter 23, then turn back until you reach the "Hapes Cluster" section. That's the penultimate one. The paragraph with the typo begins with "The Transitory Mists were bandit country…" NaruHina Talk 14px 12:40, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Pantheon's Peace

Sorry, I didn't know where to put it. The article is by no means ready to be considered Comprehensive, but I don't think it explicitly needs "updating or expansion." Thanks! Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 12:19, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Eras template

Please see the Layout Guide. {{Top}} is for subjects that exist in a specific time frame, whereas species do not necessarily have a set one. CC7567 (talk) 14:00, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

  • Looking at Forum:CT:Era tags might be helpful, as it better defines when {{Top}} should be used. In general, species (unless they are extinct, complete) should not use the Eras tag for the reasons listed in the CT. CC7567 (talk) 14:11, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

ROTJ's timeline placement

Hey, DR. It's cool if you want to change articles to say ROTJ starts in 3 ABY, but you need to site a source for that assertion. As far as I know, all sources say ROTJ takes place in 4 ABY, not 3 ABY, but I may be wrong! ~Savagelink=User talk:SavageBob 17:23, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

  • I understand why you're changing the date, Revan, because "The Imperial Senate was dissolved on 35:3:5, and since Alderaan was destroyed between 35:3:5 and 35:5:12, this battle must occur less than 4 years after the Battle of Yavin - the date of which must fall after 35:3:5." However, you need to be leaving that citation in articles you change that date in, and you need to find out where those dates come from, presumably The Essential Atlas. NaruHina Talk 14px 17:24, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
    • I have no clue where the 35:3:5 date comes from. Was changing it to 3 ABY since Cade would change it back from my new edit of 4 ABY on the Battle of the Great Pit of Carkoon to 3 ABY. You'd have to ask him what source places it in 3 ABY. DarthRevan1173 12px (Long live Lord Revan) 17:30, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
      • I'm going to quote Cade here: "The date for the beginning of ROTJ, aka 1 day before Carkoon, is 39:3:3 according to the Atlas. And the Newsnets put the dissolution of the Senate at 35:3:5, two days after the date the Atlas gave the beginning of ANH. But actually, 0 BBY is the month of 35:3 up until the battle of Yavin (which we don't have a date for) so the 0 date for the Galactic Standard Calendar is 35:3:1. Which means Carkoon is actually 4 ABY in GSC terms, if not in strictly logical terms. Because it makes more sense from a government point of view for the NR to simply shift the Great Resynch calendar three months than for them to shift the zero date three months and a few weeks. Basically, the idea that ROTJ is actually in 3 ABY was left over from the beginnings of the timeline project, and is wrong." There you have it: Cade's bad. It takes place in 4 ABY. NaruHina Talk 14px 05:18, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Crosscurrent

Kay, I'm looking at a copy of Crosscurrent and the first page says "The Past: 5,000 Years Before the Battle of Yavin." When it flashes to Jaden, that is designated "The Present." The first scene of the book is a flashback and it needs to be at 41 ABY in Appearance lists. NaruHina Talk 14px 05:14, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

  • Please read the whole book first. The first scene isn't a flashback it sets up Relin Druur the 5,000 year old Jedi who attacks Saes Rrogon's ship. He escapes via escape pod but is caught in the Sith Dreadnaughts hyperspace wake. When the ship jumps to hyperspace it jumps 5,000 years into the future, also bringing the escape pod with it. DarthRevan1173 12px (Long live Lord Revan) 12:53, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
    • I know that it connects to the present in 41 ABY. The difference between Crosscurrent's set up and the one seen in Millennium Falcon is that the events in 5,000 BBY are designated explicitly as the past and 41 ABY as the present whereas Millennium Falcon's 60 BBY events are not. 60 BBY is presented as the present, with no indication that it is a flashback, then it continutes chronologically forward. After the 43 ABY timeframe is settled om, the events in the past are clearly designated as flashbacks by their framing devices, e.g., Cix Trouvee's kids telling a story about their father. In relation to itself, the 5,000 BBY events are the present—like any other flashback ever written—but in relation to the entire novel, they are plainly "the past" with the 41 ABY stuff being "the present." NaruHina Talk 14px 16:28, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
      • But it isn't a flashback though. The author just used past and present to distinguish the difference between the two. In the 5,000 BBY are it is the presting time for Relin, but when he switches to Jaden in 41 ABY it is the past. If it was a flashback it would be told from a different perspective than it is currently told. How can it be a flashback when the Sith Dreadnought hyperspace travels forward 5,000 years and the characters on the ship still think its their time not the new time? Relin still thinks the battle of Kirrek is still being fought. DarthRevan1173 12px (Long live Lord Revan) 16:34, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
        • That the author used the past and present to distinguish them is what makes it a flashback, events shown from the perspective of the past in relation to the novel's framing device. Crosscurrent's framing device has the two timelines meet because of relativistic phlebotinum, but that doesn't change that he designated one as the past and one as the present. The way you're thinking would work if he had called the 5,000 BBY events "the past" and the 41 BBY events "the future:" that would have left us without a defined "present" timeline, and we would default to 5,000 BBY. If he had called 5,000 BBY "the present" and 43 BBY "the future", then it wouldn't be a flashback. He didn't do either of those: he called 41 ABY "the present" while defining "the past" and that's what they are. NaruHina Talk 14px 16:53, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
          • Allright but why do the characters from 5,000 BBY think their still in that time period if it's supposed to be a flashback. DarthRevan1173 12px (Long live Lord Revan) 17:08, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
            • Because they time traveled to the present from the past, relative to the book's frame. They'd still think they were in their former present, the time period covered by the flashbacks, until told otherwise. It's the same thing as if Crosscurrent were just the 41 ABY stuff and the 5,000 BBY backstory were sold separately. NaruHina Talk 14px 18:19, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
              • Ic may have to re-read it then. All the times I read it before never came across as a flashback at all. DarthRevan1173 12px (Long live Lord Revan) 18:24, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
                • It wasn't supposed to feel like you were reading a flashback, I'm sure. However, flashbacks are often written as though they are present and that doesn't mean it was not one. For example, simply reading the introduction to Millennium Falcon for the words, it would just be Han seeing the Falcon for the first time. However, the author indicated it was a flashforward by italicizing it. The 5,000 BBY stuff from Crosscurrent was written as though it was present, but the author indicated it was a flashback by designating it "the past." NaruHina Talk 14px 19:02, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re: The Essential Reader's Companion

It's fine to remove the citations, as the appearances are self-sourcing now that the book has been released. Ideally, though, you should only be doing this for items that you know are mentioned. CC7567 (talk) 00:35, October 4, 2012 (UTC)