Talk: Tutaminis

Petition for Dismissal

The sited examples of this power in no way supports the defination as described by this article. In all three scenes listed, the Jedi are seen deflecting or absorbing Force Lightning; there is absolutely no evidence, nor is it even subtly implied, that the energy is converted into a usable Force charge for the Jedi.

On that topic, outside of video games, nowhere is it stated that the energy used to perform Force-related powers is limited. This statement is a direct contradiction of the defination of Force: an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds the galaxy together. The Force is by defination infinite, and thus the powers and energy granted by the Force are unlimited. Only the Jedi's physical ability to use and connection to the Force limits the potential of usage.

Additionally, the three examples sited also only describe Force Lightning attacks. If this power can covert all kinds of Dark Side attacks, as the article claims, specific, accurate, and relative examples should be provided.

It is apparent that this article states improperly supported and false information. I suggest that this entire article be dismissed from Star Wars Wiki website. -- Plagueis the Wise 03:13, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

• The article can be rewritten you know. If you are so passionate about this, why not add the correct information and sources. -- Riffsyphon1024 02:37, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)
• It is my opinion that the article just shouldn't exist at all. A Jedi does not convert the energy of Dark Side attacks of any kind. Force Lightning deflection by palm or by lightsaber, in my opinion, doesn't necessarily need to be classified as a specific Force power. This is more of a defensive technique than a power. -- Plagueis the Wise 03:20, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)
• Ok, think of it this way. If you weren't a Jedi, you'd fry. Jedi can manipulate the energy which sounds like something to me. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:37, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)
• I'm afraid I might be a bit misunderstood: of course I believe this defense (the deflection/absorbtion, not conversion) to be Force related, I just don't believe it should be listed as a specific power. Force Defend or Force Protection, both of which are purely game related (having no existence in the movies or EU novels) but none the less, should be the articles sufficient enough to include this defensive technique. Thereby allowing us to delete this article, Force Absorb, which has been improperly created. -- Plagueis the Wise 06:16, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)
  • The name Force Absorb is documented in games, so it is a specific power. The problem is whether this name applies to the abilities demonstrated in the movies. 62.74.4.192 08:10, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)
• I removed all references to the movies and took the liberty of removing the "dispute-thing" KEJ 19:31, 24 Nov 2005 (UTC)
• I say that the movie references be put back in. If this isn't what Yoda used, then what was it? Kuralyov 19:34, 24 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • If you wanna put them back, put them back. If there's any source specifically saying that Yoda's using the same technique as the one called force absorb in JKII and JKIII, then I'll buy it too. KEJ 23:39, 24 Nov 2005 (UTC)

• In response to the original post; the key to understanding this is that 'Force points' in games should be considered a measure of a user's connection to the Force rather than 'how much' Force they have (this is explicitly stated in at least one game, Kotor, I think). In the Episode 3 novelisation, Dooku suffers 'Force exhaustion' as he over exerts his connection to the Force. That's why Jedi aren't invincible. Force points are just a way to measure this.

The fact that Force absorb replenishes a connection to the Force makes some sense; presumably Force absorb neutralises or 'filters' dark side energy back into the healthy Force. Since the dark side clouds a Jedi's Force ability, the neutralising of dark energy in the immediate area would replenish their connection to the light side of the Force. Maybe this sounds a little conjectural to be put in the article, but it sounds like a logical chain to me *shrug*. --Fade 00:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Is this the same power that Nejaa Halcyon and Corran Horn specialize in? 68.47.234.131 07:29, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

• I don't think it is. The Halcyon speciality involved absorbing all sorts of energy, including heat, blaster bolts, and lightsaber blades, then rechannelling it for telekinesis. This power is to absorb Force energy specifically. They're presumably related talents, but not quite the same thing. Red XIV 19:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
  • When is Leland Chee going to decide video games belong in the S-category, so we can avoid stuff like this?(DarthMRN 14:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC))
    • If you read above, you'll also see that Dooku suffers "Force exhaustion" in a novelization. It's not that the games raise issues with the other sources, it's that other sources raise issues with other sources. Even the movies raise issues with each other. -BaronGrackle 05:07, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Absorb Energy? I don't think so. Force absorb and energy absorb are 2 different techniques. Force absorb simply means converting the power into pure Living Force and using that to replenish your Force energies by 'absorbing' it.

Energy absorb is more of a physical thing. It can be used on things like Force lightning, energy bolts, etc. to prevent any damage being taken. I think it also can give you some kind of enhancements. Like Corran Horn absorbed... I think it was lava, and it gave him a temporary boost to his telekinesis.

I don't know what clown removed the article, but there used to be another article on energy absorb which explains this.

Anyways -- this article is incorrect as I stated above. Someone should edit it.

Missing piece.

Three articles. (Before the merge)

1. Force Absorb. 2. Dissipate/Absorb Energy. 3. Energy Absorb.

Force Absorb: Allowed the user to Absorb incoming offensive Force Powers. Ie. Lightning.

Dissipate/Absorb Energy: Allowed the user to directly absorb all types of Energy from whatever the user pointed his/her palm at.

Energy Absorb: Allowed the user to absorb energy from batteries, bacta, blasters, etc.

When merging these all together, although a smart idea, it is not a smart idea to exclude certain important factors of each article. This article should include:

"Force Absorb could: absorb incoming offensive force powers, directly absorb (via aiming the palm) Force energy from a sentient (nonharmful) or Force powers (ie. armor/barrier) and absorb batteries, blasters, etc.

From what I can see, this article is missing: Ability to directly absorb Force energy, and the ability to absorb batteries, blasters, etc.

Correct info?

"This technique became a useful one to Jedi that specialized in using Force powers. As they felt their energies running low, they could simply absorb power from others to feed themselves. Force Absorb has also been described as a "non-harmful Force drain". It could also directly absorb energy. Like Blaster bolts. "

Directly absorbing

As demonstrated on Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy, the user could directly absorb Force Powers such as Force Armor. However, the article is incorrect when it says It could also directly absorb energy like blaster bolts. It should say:

It could also directly absorb Force energy, like Force Armor, as well as absorbing physical energy -- like blaster bolts -- upon contact. - Potato Jedi 13:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Just to add to this, the first line of the article states it could be reformed in 'another location' - implying that a user could say, just move energy such as a blaster bolt to another location across a room without absorbing it first. Destination alone is fine, but someone change that if I'm incorrect. ~

Known users of Force absorb

Should this section be rearranged into the internal chronological order, or is there a reason for their current order? ZEM talk to me! 15:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Not Darth Malgus

Just a Sith Warrior. Edited. —Unsigned comment by 70.76.100.104 (talk • contribs)

It is Malgus, check the TOR-Website. Gulomi Jomesh 10:54, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Force Absorb on a lightsaber.

I can see how it can work on a lightsaber but, if you use it on a lightsaber wouldn't you have had to master the power to a very high degree and be a powerful force user yourself? The female jedi in the hope trailer kinda looked like she was straining to do it before the soldier came in to help.

• Force Absorb on lightsaber, in my opinion, just can't work. Since we all know how deadly the lightsaber is, ergo, the hilt keeps emanating continously such an ammount of energy, which would be near impossible to block with just a power. If it were to work, it would for just 1 to 3 seconds, then after that you wouldn't be able to absorb such ammount of energy anymore, and then the saber would just impale your hand. It can work for a temporary defense of course, but c'mon, touching it like that so easily is outside what I can believe. JohnSkywalker93 00:02, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Italicized?

Why is everything italicized (by everything, I mean the name tutaminis)? I was getting ready to edit it all out, but I wanted to make sure there wasn't a good reason. --Xepeyon You Speak, I've Spoken 00:36, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Please observe morichro, same thing is done there. I am under the impression that it is policy to do so. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 03:15, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Well that's nice, but it still doesn't answer why.--Xepeyon You Speak, I've Spoken 23:06, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

We generally go with how the source presents the name. So if The Jedi Path italicizes tutaminis, we should italicize it. (I don't have the book with me to check) Grunny (talk) 08:57, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

As Grunny pointed out, we italicize it because the source itself presents it that way. By extension, the reason why sources italicize names such as tutaminis, curato salva, and morichro is because it is the grammatical convention in English to italicize foreign words. See: Wikipedia's article on "Italic type" as well as here, and I suppose here as well. Since Galactic Standard Basic is essentially English, it generally follows the same grammatical rules, such as, capitalizing the first word of each sentence, italicizing the names of (star)ships, etc., and the aforementioned three names of Force techniques are apparently not Galactic Standard Basic. Sol Pacificus (talk) 06:45, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Riptide appearance

I think Marr Idi-Shael uses this power in his fight against the Iteration by grabbing his opponents blade with his hand and only sustaining mild burns.--174.62.183.126 01:39, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Force barrier vs. Tutaminis

I've noticed on this article that "Force aura," "Force armor," and "Force protection" has since been equated with tutaminis at least according to the infobox. My question is whether a source has specifically confirmed this association since from what I recall from various sources, the former three Force techniques are more closely akin if not identical to Force barrier instead. From what I know, the names "Force aura" and "Force armor" stem from Knights of the Old Republic and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II where they are the first and last levels of a series of related Force powers that provides "defense bonuses" (in gameplay terms), with the intermediate level being "Force shield," which in contrast, this wiki appears to have decided is an application of "Force barrier" instead. The in-game description for these three powers (Force aura, Force shield, Force armor) is "the Jedi is temporarily granted a +2/+4/+6 bonus to Defense and all saving throws."[1] If we were to translate this into non-gameplay terms, we can simply say this: the Jedi uses the Force to generate a defensive shield or barrier of some kind. The description thus matches more closely with Force barrier than tutaminis, as the shield is not limited to the absorption of energy but is also effective against physical attacks as well.
"Force protection," in turn, is present in Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy where it has essentially the same effects as Force aura/Force armor from KotOR (II): it conjures a Force shield around the user that can defend against both physical and energy attacks and anything else in general. Notably, in the game, it is distinct from another power called "Force absorb which allows the user to absorb energy attacks and Force powers (as so described in this article).
My point is thus: why is Force aura, Force armor, and Force protection redirected here when the powers, according to the sources where the names appear, are more akin if not identical to Force barrier? There is even the odd contradiction that "Force shield" is redirected to "Force barrier" when the source for that power identifies it as the same technique as "Force aura" and "Force armor." Sol Pacificus (talk) 06:30, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

darth maul

how did he stop nightsisters lightning ? http://u1311.hizliresim.com/1h/v/uxnls.jpg did he used tutaminis or another power ?--Marco 1907 (talk) 11:41, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

• Just my opinion, but that doesn't look like any power at all. That looks like Maul is simply using his Sith training to ignore the pain caused by the lightning. 64.39.162.70 19:14, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

Vader v Han

Is it actually stated that Darth Vader uses this against Han on Cloud City? I always thought it was just Vader's gloves, which are nearly indestructable 64.39.162.70 19:14, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

When was it stated? Source link?

How can Vader use Tutaminis ?

Taken from RotS Novel ;

And not just with his mechanical limbs. The Force—dark side as well as light—was generated by living beings, and it took living flesh to manipulate it. Darth Vader would never be able to cast blue Force lightning; that required living hands, not metal ones. And with so much of his body replaced by machinery, he would never come close to the potential he'd had.

so in my knowledge Tutaminis requires a living hands as well, so I believe that Vader blocked Han Solo's blaster by special produced gloves and his mech hands. --Marco 1907 (talk) 22:18, September 14, 2014 (UTC)

• More to the point, tutaminis is specifically an absorption power. Vader does not absorb Han's bolts; he deflects them. I'll remove references to this scene in The Empire Strikes Back. Asithol (talk) 20:15, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

Make a Canon page

This force power has been used in Canon, yet there is only the Legends page for it.

Ahsoka and Ezra

Should they be listed as examples? They seem to use it in Worlds Within Worlds when they block Sidious' Force Flames. Tycio (talk) 09:39, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

1. Just to clarify, this is for the power used in Legends, and Rebels is not a part of that. But if the canon Force Deflection page is lacking them as examples, feel free to add it over there! Hope this helps.SaintSirNicholas (talk) 12:58, 7 August 2025 (UTC)