Talk: Stormtrooper

E-11 blaster rifle

Isn't the stormtrooper's E-11 blaster rifle canon, If it is shouldn't be added to the stormtrooper page. I mean any source like the star wars visual guide of the Original trilogy named the weapon e-11 blaster rifle. (99.197.246.165 20:08, June 25, 2014 (UTC))

• The blaster itself is canon, owing to its appearances in the movies, but the designation "E-11" appears to be purely Legends now. As such, we can only state that stormtroopers used blaster rifles in general. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 20:18, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

yeah but at least we should add an canon article on the dc-15 blaster rifle because boba fett called the rifle by it's name in star wars the clone wars season two season finale. (99.197.246.165 03:23, June 26, 2014 (UTC))

Clones?

Are they clones still because we've seen some posters for Rebels promoting people to become Stormtroopers.Gopher dude 11 (talk)

• While giving a sneak peak of Star Wars Rebels at New York Comic Con 2013, Pablo Hidalgo revealed that the stormtroopers are NOT clones. He said that Empire found the clones to be too individualistic, since they all strived to show that they were individuals and not property, so they stopped using clones in favor of volunteer recruits. The Empire believed that volunteers would be easier to control, since they don't have to prove that they are people instead of property. Pablo said that this explanation came from George Lucas himself. But even though clones aren't used, Pablo said it's possible we could see older clones serving as trainers for stormtroopers. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 18:57, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

According to star wars rebels the visual guide the blaster rifle is in fact called the e-11. (172.243.179.84 17:35, July 25, 2014 (UTC))

Rebels Visual guide Info

okay, since I dont want to get in trouble by editing the article itself... I am going to lay down all the Visual Guide info here. Orange shoulder pauldron is a commander pauldron, the black band on their forehead is a broadband communications antenna, and they are "mostly" naturally born men and women (yup, it says women...) The information can be found on pages 58, 59, 60, 61... and various other pages, but those are the main pages. ralok (talk) 13:46, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

• Be bold and edit the page. :) - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 14:54, July 29, 2014 (UTC)
  • I have been yelled at for just about every edit I have ever made on this wiki... so no, I wont be bold... I will be a sniveling coward because that is what you and all the other admins here have made me. ralok (talk) 19:29, July 29, 2014 (UTC)
    • I'm not an admin, but fair enough. - Brandon Rhea^(talk) 19:40, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

New Stormtrooper

Anyone think we should add a screenshot from the "Force Awakens" trailer of the new stormtrooper designed? Or maybe that might be a little premature? Just throwing it out there, anyone have any thoughts?--JuiceStain Tell me what you really think. 19:37, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

No specific reason not to. I'll snag one and find a good spot to put it on the page. ProfessorTofty (talk) 19:42, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I, for one, think it is a little premature to start adding things everywhere based on a one-minute teaser. We know nothing beside what can be briefly glimpsed. --Lelal Mekha ^{(Audience Room)} 19:53, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I don't see any reason not to add at least basics. I can understand the Rebel Alliance thing being removed, but these are stormtroopers. Can't see why it shouldn't be there. ProfessorTofty (talk) 19:57, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

Who said they were Stormtroopers? Unless one of the official outlets, like the Star Wars Twitter/Facebook/site or some sort of press releases says so, they're just Armoured Soldiers that happen to look like Stormies. They may have a different name. I mean Clone Troopers look like Stormtroopers, but they're not called Stormtroopers --Tuskin (talk) 20:24, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I can agree with both sides which is why I presented it here before doing anything on my own. Interesting thought, as Cevan pointed out on the talk page for the Rebel Alliance for the time being perhaps its safe to assume they are stormtroopers? As he pointed out with the Alliance symbol, the specific armor design has always been associated with Stormtroopers? Also, the page for "Force Awakens" uses the trailer as a reference for including stormtroopers in the appearances section. --JuiceStain Tell me what you really think. 20:50, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

1.3 HTML tidying

The Wayback Machine's link for Notes and Reference #5 is broken. Here is the corrected link: https://web.archive.org/web/20141009055622/http://www.starwars.com/news/sdcc-2014-star-wars-a-new-dawn-panel-liveblog

I would fix it myself but I am not that familiar with Wikia and the editing system is throwing me for a loop.

96.38.177.77 04:33, November 30, 2014 (UTC) Chuck

new republic storm troopers

I think there are storm troopers serveing the new republic because there first order tie fighters attacking people who are storm troopers serveing the new republic. It's in the trailer.

• In some ways, I hope it's like that in the end because the Stormtroopers are just so freaking awesome, but I highly doubt it'll happen. (By now you surely know that they are First Order Stormtroopers). Reddyredcp (talk) 00:07, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

motives and why alot ex imperal units where in resistance/new republic millitry

Exhibit A Why would storm troopers be fireing on a tie fighter and why would tie fighter fire on them second trailer Exibit b I also know for a fact Finn and his probably new republic comrades wears a different storm trooper helmet than the first order storm troopers and there also different from flame troopers helmets sense don,t have the yellow strip Conclusion Finn and his storm trooper comrades they where serving the resistance/ new republic and not the first order. Her is what alot of grand moffs goveners and even higher ranking officers who where still belevers in the old republic unfortunately they might of been significant minority came conclusion that shev palpatine was the sith was darth sideious a sith the jedi and they where looking for by time they found out it was to late shev palpatine was in control and showed fake loyalty to them Beacuse they where probably frighten by there own mortality and after a few atrocitys expecaly the distraction of the planet alderan and dissolousion of imperal senate they came conclusion they where serveing tyrants and monsters. When the became dead palpatine and vader and most officers and moffs loyal them dead during the civil war they brook free of shackles. purge any people that might of been loyal old empire way of doing things those who could not be bribed off they probably purge them brutaly commiting war crimes in the process but some of them escaped and formed the first order in process they where somehow lead by the remaining inquisitors still loyal shev palpatine idels of terror tyreny. Than offerd the resistance/ new republic and offer they could not refuse they offerd there assistance in extange for no prosecution of there war crimes and high ranking positions positions whith in there resistance/new republic goverment and millitry the resistance/ new republic could not refuse beacuse they held the keys to a most of of the galaxy including core worlds and coreacant and the forces can be used to suppress and conquer imperal hold outs which still control alot of galaxy. they gave they gave they wanted senatorships govenerships and high ranking millitry positions whith in the resistance goverment which the first order calls it and resistance calles it the new republic the former imperials forces also used resistance/ new republic equipment new rifles and new x wings but for ex imperal forces this was reserved oracesand top guns The rest of the equipment modernized modified to new republic standerds there tie fighters where given sheilds hyper drives and there star destroyers that they had had been made more automated. —Unsigned comment by Tmntmaster889 (talk • contribs) ^[source?]

Helmet issue...

Can this whole, limited vision thing with the helmets thing be like...removed? It's from Luke Skywalker, who by a ANH was just a farm boy, he wouldn't know how to work a Stormtrooper helmet. So taking his quote as a means of saying the helmet impaired vision is just...well dumb.

Plus more to that, it apparently doesn't impair vision because otherwise why is it right within the next scene of Luke saying that, he is able to blast Imperials? Why is it on Endor, a Scout Trooper was able to tag a fast moving speeder bike one handed while driving his own? Why is it then their marksmenship is above Sand People who were tagging Podracers in Ep 1?

Why is it a Stormtrooper was able to blast R2 apart and wound Leia?...This whole impaired vision thing with the helmets, make literally zero sense and should be removed.Wolfscar45 (talk) 21:16, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

• It's probably due to Luke's lack of proficiency with the armor. I modified the statement.--Richterbelmont10 ^{(come in R2!)} 02:28, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, that's always something that has annoyed me because it makes zero sense otherwise they wouldn't be able to make the shots they do nor perform nearly as well as they do within the books/comics and it's coming from a farmboy Luke who has no experience in working the armor.Wolfscar45 (talk) 16:26, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

Well, it looks like Star Wars Rebels, with its obsession with acknowledging the Stormtrooper Effect every five minutes, has just made this fully canon...

Yeah I realize that, but this talk was more about the previous Canon. Disney just seems to be throwing Stormtroopers in the pile of stupidity, a shame that. So I guess the whole impaired vision thing is Disney Canon...great.

Could have swore I put this on the Legends page...unless it was moved.Wolfscar1 (talk) 17:15, June 12, 2019 (UTC)

First Order Stormtroopers

Do you all think we should make separate pages for First Order Stormtroopers, Snowtroopers, et cetera? We could use the current pages to reference to the Imperial ones. Reddyredcp (talk) 00:09, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

Move to Imperial Stormtrooper?

Since it seems that the First Galactic Empire and First Order and separate political entities and the First Order Stormtroopers have a separate page, would it make sense to move this page to Imperial Stormtrooper? - AV-6R7^{Crew Pit} 02:36, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

• I don' think that is necessary. - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 02:38, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

New Picture

I don't mean to sound negative, but does anyone know of a better picture for the infobox? Currently, it looks like someone wearing a bad Halloween costume. - Comm. Boots (talk) 17:28, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

• I changed the picture before (view edit history) but it was reversed. What do you think of following a similar style to the variants' pages (e.g. Shadow Trooper, Cold weather assault Stormtrooper), using a picture from the Star Wars Battlefront interactive planet explorer? Reddyredcp (talk) 17:34, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Rename The Article?

Given the existence of the new First Order Stormtroopers, in my opinion it would be appropriate to rename the article "Imperial Stormtrooper(s)". This would add an appropriate degree of specificity to the article's title, and avoid any potential confusion. MmmmNapalm (talk) 21:36, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

Is there an canon explanation on why Stormtroopers looked a bit different in all the movies and canon differences —Unsigned comment by 335491650a (talk • contribs)

Specialized variants section

I was considering making this section look more like the specialized stormtroopers section on the Stormtrooper/Legends. What do you guys think? We already have most of the variants with their descriptions but are all in a paragraph.--Vitus Infinitus (talk) 00:34, December 6, 2017 (UTC)

Episode III?

There weren't stormtroopers in Episode III, were there? —Unsigned comment by 67.6.33.25 (talk • contribs)

• When the Republic transformed into the Empire, the clone troopers became stormtroopers. UberSoldat93 (talk) 12:21, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Clarification between Imperial Stormtrooper and First Order Stormtrooper

Hello, I am a but new to the talk pages but I would still like to put in my input. I have proposed that the page: Stormtrooper should be moved or renamed as Stormtrooper (Galactic Empire) as with the introduction of Stormtroopers (First Order) in the sequel trilogy, the title “Stormtrooper” has become synonymous as a synonym for the infantry units of major galactic authoritarian militaries instead of the name of the Galactic Empire’s infantry units. I will admit that I tried doing this before and, of course, my actions were undone but it was suggested that I might want to bring up such a proposal to the article’s talk page. As you can see, I have taken up the offer. Also, I would like to thank all of the wiki editors, Admins, staff, ect. for their hard work creating and maintaining a rich source of knowledge about the Star Wars saga. I hope to return once more and become another member of the Wookieepedia community. —Aaron526 (talk)

• Thanks for taking the option up! But personally I believe that keeping the pages at their current titles is the best option here, and falls under 2 points of the naming policy. The first point I'll raise is 'Precedence shall be granted to subjects that can be considered original namesakes for other subjects with competing titles'. Clearly the stormtroopers of the Galactic Empire are the original namesakes. And to a lesser degree I'll point to 'Major subjects shall be granted precedence over lesser-known subjects' Lewisr (talk) 23:24, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

TK Trooper split

TKs have a different name, different armor, seemingly different training. They evolve into stormtroopers, yes, but in the same fashion that clone troopers have a separate article, they seem unique enough to warrant their own page. RattsT (talk) 08:48, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

• They don't just evolve into stormtroopers, we have at least two sources that says they are stormtroopers, one that says just stormtrooper, and another which calls them TK stormtroopers. Aren't they also credited as stormtrooper in the episode credits? Having different armor and different training wouldn't really justify having a separate page since we have the TK armor page, and it can be noted on the stormtrooper page that early training was seemingly different Lewisr (talk) 02:57, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
  • No reason they can't be covered on this page, but they're still a unique version of the stormtrooper though. Looking at this page as is, the "Specialized stormtroopers" section lists a host of variants that all have their own pages. Why treat TK stormtroopers differently than say sandtroopers, Heavy Weapons Stormtroopers, or TBB's other new addition, the Elite Squad Trooper. All essentially just stormtroopers, but different names. RattsT (talk) 04:21, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
    • Okay yes I can agree with that, I just didn't agree with the idea they were different from stormtroopers Lewisr (talk) 04:34, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
      • To jump in here, in the original season one animatics, they are called stormtroopers. They made the conscious decision to give them their own name to make them a specific variant in the final cut Editoronthewiki (talk) 04:52, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
        • I get why they might have done it, but as long as we're treating them as a variant then no issues with them having an individual page as with other variant types Lewisr (talk) 04:13, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
          • Ah, I meant that as proof they are a variant, since they decided to change it :P Editoronthewiki (talk) 02:51, 3 February 2023 (UTC)