This page is an archive of the discussion of an article. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's current talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
Contents
- 1 Main Image
- 2 Princess Leia's theme
- 3 Why Is This Article An Improvement Drive?
- 4 Princess of a place that no longer exsists?
- 5 Name
- 6 Is the Luke ~ Leia "Love Triangle" necessary?
- 7 Romance
- 8 Duel on Mimban
- 9 Tape??
- 10 Clothes
- 11 Birth name
- 12 Main Image Vote
- 13 Sourcing quotes
- 14 muscles???
- 15 Leia remembering her mother?
- 16 Princess of Alderaan?
- 17 Bounty
- 18 Leia's lightsaber
- 19 Leia Political Affiliation
- 20 Death Star Plans
- 21 Princess leia in other slave outfits
- 22 Flawed information
- 23 Signature
- 24 Main image
- 25 New main image vote
- 26 GA-Confederation War
- 27 Princess?
- 28 spoiler
- 29 Dancer
- 30 Metalorn
- 31 Cinnamon buns
- 32 Queen of the Alderaanii
- 33 Death
- 34 Millenium Falcon?
- 35 a Rebel General
- 36 Lightsaber
- 37 fighting style
- 38 This seems right
- 39 Captured
- 40 Birthplace
- 41 Image
Main Image
that's the second one i've seen changed without premission or disguession on the talk page. Valin "Tnu" "Shido" Suul 21:25, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Here's the image File:Leiapromo.jpg
Let's have a vote if you want this image or the old one to become the main image.
New Image
- This image isn't as big as th other one fits well in the infobox. Jaina SoloGoddess Stuff
01:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC) - Cutch 01:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- Same here. Anakin SoloJedi (Hero to the Enemy)20px 01:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- [Redacted by administration] Adamwankenobi 01:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Old Image
- The current one is fine Jedi Dude 22:22, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- Leia, Luke and Hans appearance never change so it's fine to use images that reflect the most recognizable appearance of the character. Though I still think we should try an image where the height doesn't overpower the width. --RedemptionTalk 15px 22:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- Luke has a mole on his face in ROTJ. You can see it clearly when he confronts Jabba. Leia, well, never mind. Just wayching the firs 30 minutes and you know whats changed. Though I like the current one. the entire body. I don't like how the one up top here leans to the left. --Jabbathehuttgartogg 20px 20px 01:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Comments
- To be honest all the main images, Luke, Leia keep getting changed, there fine and there only be reverted back Jedi Dude 22:22, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- [Redacted by administration] --Jabbathehuttgartogg 20px 20px 01:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- [Redacted by administration] Adamwankenobi 01:35, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- (*sighs*) This is not a discussion about Carrie Fisher Jabba and AdamwanKenobi. We are voting for the main image. By the way that's 4:3, voting will end tomorrow so which ever pic has the most votes will be the main image. By the way Mark Hamill got into a car accident which resulted in his changed appearance and that Luke rotj promo was a good, who cares if it showed too much of his head. Jaina SoloGoddess Stuff
- On the contrary our discussion on Carrie is my explanation for my vote. :) Adamwankenobi 01:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- (*sighs*) This is not a discussion about Carrie Fisher Jabba and AdamwanKenobi. We are voting for the main image. By the way that's 4:3, voting will end tomorrow so which ever pic has the most votes will be the main image. By the way Mark Hamill got into a car accident which resulted in his changed appearance and that Luke rotj promo was a good, who cares if it showed too much of his head. Jaina SoloGoddess Stuff
well she does look ready to kick imp butt so mabye that's why? she looks more dangerous than she did in the bikini
72.230.40.84 01:37, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- That's exactly why I like the pic so much. [Redacted by administration] Adamwankenobi 01:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- Still it's very wrong. Though I find it very amussing. [Redacted by administration] -- Jabbathehuttgartogg 20px 20px 02:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- Blasphemy! [Redacted by administration] Adamwankenobi 02:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yer, dear god jabba padme is roasting. anyway back onto topic... :P Jedi Dude 17:56, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- Blasphemy! [Redacted by administration] Adamwankenobi 02:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- Still it's very wrong. Though I find it very amussing. [Redacted by administration] -- Jabbathehuttgartogg 20px 20px 02:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- You really did not wait long enough. Four out of six voters really isn't enough to change a major (and I mean major) characters main image. I suggest switching it until a policy can be made up in the Senate Hall. --RedemptionTalk 15px 23:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- Alright I'll wait at least a week more and then we'll decide or take this discussion to Senate Hall. Jaina SoloGoddess Stuff

- Alright I'll wait at least a week more and then we'll decide or take this discussion to Senate Hall. Jaina SoloGoddess Stuff
- If the length is the only problem with the current main image, it could always be cropped, right? That has been done before, with Bail Organa at least. --Tinwe 14:36, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- Not cropped, resized. Jedi Dude 14:56, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- I do mean cropped, as in "cropped with an image processing program" (see Talk:Bail Organa). Leia's lower body isn't really "needed" in the infobox picture, so why not just cut it out? --Tinwe 15:09, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunatly, just "cutting out" the bottom isn't going to help. The image is just too narrow as it is. --RedemptionTalk 15px 23:38, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- The high res version of the image is 362 px in width. Default infobox width is 250 px, and even if we wanted the infobox image to be 300 px in width like in some articles, the current image would still be wide enough. I don't see the problem, or am I missing something? --Tinwe 10:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- Oops. Did a test and it doesn't look bad at all.--RedemptionTalk 15px 19:02, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- The high res version of the image is 362 px in width. Default infobox width is 250 px, and even if we wanted the infobox image to be 300 px in width like in some articles, the current image would still be wide enough. I don't see the problem, or am I missing something? --Tinwe 10:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunatly, just "cutting out" the bottom isn't going to help. The image is just too narrow as it is. --RedemptionTalk 15px 23:38, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- I do mean cropped, as in "cropped with an image processing program" (see Talk:Bail Organa). Leia's lower body isn't really "needed" in the infobox picture, so why not just cut it out? --Tinwe 15:09, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- Not cropped, resized. Jedi Dude 14:56, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
File:Leiachop.jpg
- It would be very tempting to say "I told you so"... but I won't ;) --Tinwe 10:09, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Princess Leia's theme
Shouldn't there be a section for Princess Leia's theme. Jaina SoloGoddess StuffFile:JainaPurple.jpg |30px 01:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Leia's theme, as in her theme song? -Finlayson 02:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yes. Jaina SoloGoddess StuffFile:JainaPurple.jpg |30px 11:20, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I see that one was added, but the grammar and construction was terrible. Leia's Theme has it's own page for some reason...
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Princess_Leia%27s_Theme
...so I just copied what was written there onto Leia's page. --Promus Kaa 17:55, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Why Is This Article An Improvement Drive?
- Why is this article an improvement drive? it seems great to me, nothing seemed wrong with it, it has massive amoutns of information, and some unessesary such as the outfit catagory, but what is wrong with this article? —Unsigned comment by 152.163.100.202 (talk • contribs)
- It wasn't as good when it was nominated. Since it's nomination, it's grown from 31 kilobytes to 68 kilobytes. But it stays on the nomination page until it stops getting votes. If nobody else votes for this page, it'll stop being a nominee be October 14.-LtNOWIS 02:48, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- I dont care, its a good page, regardless if people like it, votes do NOT matter, people think the Kit Fisto article is good, and it sucks, it's like at most two pages long if I were to print it, thats not a good article, people just vote on the most popular, not on facts, and the fact is Kit Fisto is nothing, just pointless. —Unsigned comment by 147.31.4.47 (talk • contribs)
- Sign your comments please. -Fnlayson 17:58, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- I guess when it's improved then it would be taken care off. Jaina Solo(Goddess Stuff) File:Jaina_sig.jpg|25px 18:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- I just read the whole thing, and it's desperately in need of improvement. .... 08:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well add missing items to the I-drive/Expand List above or specify what is lacking. -Fnlayson 14:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- I've also turned my significant writing energies to Leia after Jaina Solo pointed out that she needed some work. I've done all I can for her brother, and I've just about done all I can with Leia- massive text expansions galore! Atarumaster88 20px (Audience Chamber) 20:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- I think the article is good. But I'll do what I can on it too. -Fnlayson 20:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well add missing items to the I-drive/Expand List above or specify what is lacking. -Fnlayson 14:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- I just read the whole thing, and it's desperately in need of improvement. .... 08:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Princess of a place that no longer exsists?
Can you still be a Princess of a place that no longer exsists? I mean, I could say I'm the owner of this sandwich, but if this sandwich is obliterated, I no longer own it. Thoughts? .... 12:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- This is covered in The Black Fleet Crisis, I believe, only about being senator of Alderaan. In that it says that, since some Alderaanians survived they still needed representation so Leia could serve as senator. Presumably the same applies to her role as a princess. Green Tentacle (Talk) 12:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Indeed you can still be the Princess of a place that no longer exists. There are several real world examples, but a good GFFA example is Prince Xizor, who retained his title and rights despite the obliteration of his father's kingdom. --SparqMan 08:13, 17 October 2006 (PDT)
Name
The article uses a few different name schemes for the subject, including given name, surname, royal name, married name and a combination of those. Given Leia's royal status, I recommend we default to the style preference of calling her "Princess Leia" in every instance after the first to avoid any confusion. --SparqMan 15:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that right now there are too many name schemes, so I like your proposal. Or how about just "Leia"? For example, The New Essential Guide to Characters and The New Essential Chronology (the "Profiles in History" part at least) use more commonly first names instead of a surname or a first name/surname combination, and I don't see a problem with that, even though the latter would be a more encyclopedic way of doing things. I couldn't force myself to refer to Leia as "Organa" or "Organa Solo" when I wrote the early life part. It just seemed... wrong, somehow. So I used "Leia" or "the Princess" instead. IIRC, there was a thread in the Senate Hall about the proper style of referring to individuals in the articles, but I don't remember a consensus being reached. --Tinwe 10:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
- No matter how "wrong" it feels, there are only two proper styles after the first full naming: "Organa Solo" or "Princess Leia". --SparqMan 17:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- I do see your point, and if Wookieepedia was a real-world encyclopedia, I'd agree. However, what I failed to emphazise in my last comment was that both NEGTC and NEC are written from an in-universe perspective — and they use first names when referring to individuals, beside the more formal first name/surname combinations and surnames. Maybe that's the GFFA way of doing things then ;) And if it is, maybe we should consider it too, given that our character articles are IU. Unencyclopedic in the conventional sense, maybe, but looking at our other articles, people seem to prefer using first name to surname. I'm not saying the people are necessarily right, I just thought I'd bring the issue up. Thoughts? --Tinwe 21:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
- Organa or Organa-Solo. QuentinGeorge 21:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Is the Luke ~ Leia "Love Triangle" necessary?
Do we really need references concerning a sexual attraction between Luke and Leia? Can we 86 the image of the two of them about to kiss? —Unsigned comment by 68.218.57.178 (talk • contribs)
- Yeah, if we chose to deny that such an attraction was there, which Splinter of the Mind's Eye proves there was. Adamwankenobi 01:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Everyone knows that was a desperate attempt to retcon the fact that they weren't brother and sister when Empire Strikes Back came out. Lucas admitted the "love triangle" plot was abandoned for Reurn of the Jedi... that she was meant for Han. Come on, man. It's creepy. —Unsigned comment by 68.218.57.178 (talk • contribs)
- But it is nevertheless a part of canon and cannot be ignored. Adamwankenobi 01:46, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- And please...sign your comments with four tildes. .... 01:48, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- ONLY THE MOVIES ARE CANON. And yes, I'm one of those fans. When Return of the Jedi came out, we were meant to view Luke and Leia's kiss in Empire Strikes Back as Leia's attempt to make Han jealous, not sexual tension. Those are Lucas's thoughts on the subject, my friend... argue the relevence of the kiss with him. I mean, do we really need to explore that moot point from the movie with a scientific explanation for incest. I know it happened, but we can ignore it easily. Just axe the article. What's the big deal?68.219.86.69 02:24, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- If you are a movie purist, then maybe Wookiepedia is not the place for you. Splinter of the Mind's Eye is, and always was canon. Lucas has acknowledged that the EU is a part of the story, I don't see why the fans should hold onto a childish sentiment that it's not. .... 02:27, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Look, it's canon until Lucas decides to ignore it altoghter and do whatever the hell he wants to with his story. I KNOW the EU is "canon", I'm not arguing that point. [Redacted by administration] It wasn't supposed to happen. Lucas wants us to ignore it. Lucas retconned it himself in the next movie. By including it you're going against the actual flow of the story. It's like "Haloween III"... just forget it. It was a mistake. Lucas decides what's etched in stone as far as Star Wars goes, not us.68.219.100.200 02:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- ONLY THE MOVIES ARE CANON. Doesn't sound like you think that the EU is canon. Anyway, Lucas "ignored" Jar Jar Binks in Episode IV...does that mean he doesn't exsist? Just because Lucas doesn't continue something through to the next film, doesn't mean it never exsisted. Plus, Han picks up on the whole love triangle thing in ROTJ, when he suspects that Leia still loves Luke. .... 02:47, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Look, it's canon until Lucas decides to ignore it altoghter and do whatever the hell he wants to with his story. I KNOW the EU is "canon", I'm not arguing that point. [Redacted by administration] It wasn't supposed to happen. Lucas wants us to ignore it. Lucas retconned it himself in the next movie. By including it you're going against the actual flow of the story. It's like "Haloween III"... just forget it. It was a mistake. Lucas decides what's etched in stone as far as Star Wars goes, not us.68.219.100.200 02:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- If you are a movie purist, then maybe Wookiepedia is not the place for you. Splinter of the Mind's Eye is, and always was canon. Lucas has acknowledged that the EU is a part of the story, I don't see why the fans should hold onto a childish sentiment that it's not. .... 02:27, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- ONLY THE MOVIES ARE CANON. And yes, I'm one of those fans. When Return of the Jedi came out, we were meant to view Luke and Leia's kiss in Empire Strikes Back as Leia's attempt to make Han jealous, not sexual tension. Those are Lucas's thoughts on the subject, my friend... argue the relevence of the kiss with him. I mean, do we really need to explore that moot point from the movie with a scientific explanation for incest. I know it happened, but we can ignore it easily. Just axe the article. What's the big deal?68.219.86.69 02:24, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- And please...sign your comments with four tildes. .... 01:48, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- But it is nevertheless a part of canon and cannot be ignored. Adamwankenobi 01:46, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Everyone knows that was a desperate attempt to retcon the fact that they weren't brother and sister when Empire Strikes Back came out. Lucas admitted the "love triangle" plot was abandoned for Reurn of the Jedi... that she was meant for Han. Come on, man. It's creepy. —Unsigned comment by 68.218.57.178 (talk • contribs)
- REALITY. I'M TALKING ABOUT REALITY. The TRUTH of the matter is Lucas hadn't decided to make them brother and sister at that point. Do you get it? You know that right? [Redacted by administration] Get it? LUCAS CHANGED HIS MIND. You're including as Star Wars "canon" that it was almost a possibility that it happened? LUCAS DISAGREES WITH YOU! That's the ONLY reason why it was included in "Splinter", because fanatics couldn't comprehend the notion that he changed his mind!68.211.166.67 03:20, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Splinter has yet to be retconned. The Empire Strikes Back has yet to be retconned. Therefore, they are both parts of the continuity. Therefore, they are both parts of the canon. Lucas presented them with love intrest in IV and V, and to my knowledge, those films still exsist. That cannot be ignored. .... 03:23, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm through arguing this disgusting topic. Keep it, then. [Redacted by administration] —Unsigned comment by 68.211.166.67 (talk • contribs)
- [Redacted by administration] .... 03:42, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- LOL! Sad but true. Adamwankenobi 03:43, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Romance
- Can we get a "Romance" section like in Luke Skywalker's article? [Redacted by administration] QuentinGeorge 11:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Duel on Mimban
Do you think we should have an image from the Duel on Mimban? I think that it's a very significant event - a lightsabre duel with her father! .... 02:01, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Tape??
It says in the behind the scenes part that tape was used because of the no underwear in space thing. I don't get how the tape was used? Quinlanfan 20:46, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- Probably on the skin acting something like a bra. -Fnlayson 21:59, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- One word. Ow. ~~ Commander Jorrel Fraajic File:Insignia.jpg|20px Communications Relay ~~ 22:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Clothes
- Is it just me or does the clothes that Leia wears in the begining of ANH look like a night gown?
67.72.98.117 18:15, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Birth name
Where does the information about her birth name being Leia Amidala Skywalker come from? If that's correct, why isn't Luke's birth name "Luke Amidala Skywalker" then? --Tinwe 09:50, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- I believe it's from the ROTS VD. And I have no clue about Luke's naming. At least we know they have the decency to name their children using both parents' last names. Adamwankenobi 09:56, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- It IS from the ROTS VD. However, it doesn't say Luke's name though. But this doesn't mean that ALL characters name their kids using both the father and mother's last names. Cause most the characters are always referred with their father's last name, just like most people here in the Real-life world. After all, the Star Wars universe is written by humans from Earth. So they tend to follow many of the traditions earthly humans have. But there are a few cases of people taking their mother's last name such as Ryoo and Pooja Naberrie as well as Tenel Ka. Since the ROTS VD officially states that Leia's birth name is Leia Amidala Skywalker, we should leave it the way it is. - Divinity 10:29, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Luke's not "Luke Amidala Skywalker" because...Amidala is likely Leia's MIDDLE name, not a hyphenated surname. (since Amidala is NOT Padme's surname). In that case, Luke can't have the name Amidala because he's male. So the kids weren't given both surnames, since Padme didn't use her surname at that stage. QuentinGeorge 10:59, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- I have to agree with QuentinGeorge. Besides, Amidala is actually a female name, and is not Padme's REAL surname as it is actually her name of state. Which is why Luke is not named that way. - Divinity 11:14, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- "Amidala" is the last name Padme took when she was elected Queen. Once again, since it was written by earthly humans, this seems to reflect the customs of royalty on earth. Adamwankenobi 11:29, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- No, it's NOT a last name. It's a regal name - like how "Prince Albert" became "George VI". It's definately not a surname, and is never used as such in any source. And FYI - Royalty on Earth don't have surnames. For example Prince Charles is NOT Charles Windsor or Charles Mountbatten-Windsor. QuentinGeorge 05:49, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- "Amidala" is the last name Padme took when she was elected Queen. Once again, since it was written by earthly humans, this seems to reflect the customs of royalty on earth. Adamwankenobi 11:29, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- So are you trying to say that Luke's full name should be "Luke Amidala Skywalker" then? Whether or not it is officially stated anywhere in whatever Star Wars reference books. It is not officially stated whether parents name their children using both last names or not in the Star Wars universe. - Divinity 11:37, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
I'm not trying to say anything like that. Until an official source gives his original name, his birth name is only "Luke," and his later name is "Luke Skywalker." Actually, to me, if they are going to use that naming format, they should have named Luke "Luke Naberrie Skywalker" and Leia "Leia Naberrie Skywalker." Adamwankenobi 11:42, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Alright, fine! I get what you mean. But at this moment let's just keep it the way it is officially stated, ok? - Divinity 11:48, 13 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Which is why plainly "Amidala" in Leia's name ISN'T a double-barrelled surname. It's a middle name Padme gave her daughter to honour the name Padme assumed as Queen. If she wanted to honour her own family, Padme would have passed on the *actual* surname - Naberrie - like her sister Sola did. QuentinGeorge 05:49, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Heh, it seems I managed to kindle some discussion here :) Thanks for all the replys, I always thought (incorrectly, it seems) Amidala was Padmé's last name, since as a senator she was known as Padmé Amidala. But if Amidala was Leia's middle name, when did Padmé give it? She seemed to die pretty quickly after Leia was born, and we never heard her give her daughter any other name than Leia. But it's fine by me if the name is left as it is, since it comes from an official source. --Tinwe 15:20, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)
We should change it to "Leia Amidala Skywalker Organa Solo" 71.112.105.82 00:38, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- Already discussed. See above. That's wrong. —Unsigned comment by Finlayson (talk • contribs)
- In the society, and indeed the politics, of Naboo, there seems to be a strong matriarchal underpinning. It would follow suit that Leia would carry the royal honorific once held by her late mother, and not Luke. Certain aspects of, say, the Jewish tradition follow such a standard. If only one parent is Jewish and that person is the mother, then the children are also considered Jewish. If the father is Jewish and the mother a non-Jew, then the subsequent children are not considered Jewish at all. In this sense, Luke would hold no actual royal title, though officially of royal birth.--Snartyblartfast 05:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Main Image Vote
Again...I can imagine I'm driving people up the wall with the votes. As usual, have another image then put it below the votes.--RedemptionTalk 15px 15:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- Added 4th image, a cropped version of image 3. -Fnlayson 00:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Ooookay. Can we get a tie-breaker here? <few weeks later> And another tie breaker? <more weeks later> Okay. Maybe I'll get some votes this way. If there aren't anymore votes then I will assume that the image I voted for is just as good, if not better, then the current one and will replace it. --RedemptionTalk 15px 03:38, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- There are a few problems with that image, though. First, it's a mirror image. See that little mole beside Carrie's/Leia's nose? That should be on the right side, not left. Second, the background color has been changed from red to gray. If you look closely, you'll see the original color between the dress and the background. I thought our policy doesn't allow (or at least doesn't encourage) using modified images? --Tinwe 14:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- Geez. I wasn't expecting someone to actually look at it with a magnifying glass. Anyway, I don't think the policy extends as far as making a background less distracting and I didn't even notice the little moll next to her nose in the first place. --RedemptionTalk 15px 21:18, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- Uh, I didn't mean the mole was the problem. It's part of her facial features and shouldn't be removed. The problem is that the image is mirrored — Carrie has the mole on the right side of her nose, not on the left as it is in that picture (see this screenshot for example); hence=mirror image. But I guess it's easy to unmirror it. And mind you, I didn't need a magnifying glass, I just happen to have very sharp eyes and an excellent memory — so far I've seen the image with a red background only ;). --Tinwe 09:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- I prefer to mirror images when the subject is facing right since the infobox is on the right and so she'd up facing the scrollbar and it'd look awkward, so as a result, I removed anything that would only be present on the other side of the nose. --RedemptionTalk 15px 19:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm, I see the logic, even though in my opinion mirroring images pushes the boundaries of the "no altered images" policy. I'm not really happy with this, but I guess I can live with it if no one else is against. --Tinwe 13:30, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
File:Princessleiaheadwithgun.jpg|1 File:Leiapromo.jpg|2 File:ArmedAndSexyLeia-OfficialPix.jpg|3
Image 1
- RedemptionTalk 15px 15:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- Best quality…Cutch 16:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- Atarumaster88 20px (Audience Chamber) 18:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- .... 01:45, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Imp 19:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- Jaina Leia MaraJedi Knight
Image 2
- Jaina Solo(Goddess Stuff) File:Jaina_sig.jpg |25px 16:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- Valin "Tnu" "Shido" Suul
- jSarek 23:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- Adamwankenobi 01:46, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think I feel somewhat compelled to vote on this one - lalala_la
- Evir Daal 09:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Olsonman (Talk) 14:22, 11 Octiber 2007 (UTC)
- Janeway 13:38, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- Cheeseman 15:51, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Image 3
Image 4 [deleted]
- For. Fnlayson 00:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- Red Head Rider 20:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
I vote for none of them, put slave leia on and see what happens —Unsigned comment by 71.239.121.191 (talk • contribs)
- I vote for photo number one. It's a traditional depiction of Leia as she was first known when the character became a household name in 1977. Again, I don't mind the double-buns at all, since they are derived from a style worn by female Mexican revolutionaries so long ago. Since Leia, and her generation, were the ones to finally rise up and defeat the Empire, Lucas felt she ought to reflect that sort of heritage. What I never liked were the flat-soled go-go boots... so unbecoming a young woman of royal blood. lol --Snartyblartfast 05:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Sourcing quotes
There are now only five unsourced quotes left in the article, so if you know the source of any of these, don't hesitate to add it. Thanks! --Tinwe 20:32, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
- "They're up to something, Han — I can feel it. Something big; something dangerous. But I can't for the life of me figure out what it could be."
- ―Leia to Han Solo[src]
- "Mom and Dad never act that weird unless they're worried about us three little darlings."
"That's for sure. They sure do worry."
"Come on, Jacen. If you were our parents, wouldn't you worry?" - ―Jaina and Jacen Solo talking about their parents[src]
- "You will be our leader, Leia."
- ―Mon Mothma[src]
- "The New Republic? Are you blind? There is no New Republic! It died before the Yuuzhan Vong came."
- ―Leia Organa Solo[src]
- "When did a nice girl like you learn to do things like that?"
- ―Han on Leia[src]
- Only four more. I sourced the last one. —Xwing328(Talk) 04:01, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- Three more to go. Someone sourced the Mon Mothma one. --Tinwe 08:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Only one left! Anyone? --Tinwe 14:46, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- I THINK it's from Heir to the Empire, but I'll have to double check. StarNeptuneTalk to me! 14:57, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- I did a check and it indeed is from HttE (only the "for the life of me" part was missing). All quotes are sourced now, yay! :) --Tinwe 16:37, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- I THINK it's from Heir to the Empire, but I'll have to double check. StarNeptuneTalk to me! 14:57, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Only one left! Anyone? --Tinwe 14:46, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Three more to go. Someone sourced the Mon Mothma one. --Tinwe 08:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
muscles???
In star wars rebelion: abroken alliance, a fatal choice, leia is in a bacta tank at the end. Her stomach and her legs are very muscular, but in ROTJ she is skinny and has no muscles. What is up with that? How did the muscles dissapear? Quinlanfan 01:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- In what? --The Wolfe22 20:20, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
[Redacted by administration]
Leia remembering her mother?
how come in episode VI leia tells luke she knew her mother, while in episode III her mother (Padme) dies at childbirth? although you can just say everything is "the force" why doesn't luke remember his mom. —Unsigned comment by 75.41.212.9 (talk • contribs)
- See what the Behind the scenes section says on this.. -Fnlayson 23:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- Because people with good enough memories can remember events that occured after 50 years. Meaning she remembered her mother's heartbeat. Luke just can't remember.--Animasage 17:10, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- I think it says that Leia actually took a glance at her mother, and, as we all know, Leia is Force-Sensitive. 71.247.74.219 14:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- It happens all the time that a surrogate or adoptive mother dies and the father remarries without ever telling the child of their previous adoption. Breha is in the hole that Lucas has not yet filled with the live-action series, and there are already indications that she died while Leia "was still very young". Occam's razor: Leia thinks she remembers Breha as her real mother, and Luke specifies 'real' to differentiate from a subsequent wife of Bail. This is speculation, of course, but so is trying to fixate on Leia remembering Padme, which is far more complicated to explain. Add this to the fact that the Breha page alludes to Leia remembering Breha as her 'mother'. Gethralkin 13:30, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- I think it says that Leia actually took a glance at her mother, and, as we all know, Leia is Force-Sensitive. 71.247.74.219 14:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Because people with good enough memories can remember events that occured after 50 years. Meaning she remembered her mother's heartbeat. Luke just can't remember.--Animasage 17:10, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- I had rather chalked up the whole thing to A) Leia being Force sensitive and B) the fact that she may well have known she was adopted. Padme had been a prominent senator and, it would seem, a close ally who was empathetic with the Organa opposition to: The formation of the military; the granting Chancellor Palpatine "emergency powers," and the ultimate death of democracy in the galaxy. It is quite possible the Organa Royal Family had various holos or other images of Leia's real mother. It's often common, once an adopted child comes of age and begins to figure things out, for them to begin asking a lot of questions. Perhaps, as Padme was so fervent and upright a politician and woman, the Organas deliberately informed Leia of her true origins, so that she might likewise emulate the good woman who was her mother. If this is true, and Leia did glimpse various images or holos of Padme, she may well have sensed the sadness that consumed her mother, toward the end of her life. User: Snartyblartfast May 3, 2009
Princess of Alderaan?
Currently the successor of the title of Princess of Alderaan is vacant since Leia is still alive, but, with the title being hereditary, wouldn't it be logical to name Jaina as the successor of the title? —Unsigned comment by Darth Exile (talk • contribs)
- It wasn't obligatory. Perhaps Leia, adopted daughter of Breha and Bail Organa and heir to Alderaan, just didn't officially clamed the title of Queen, after the Destruction of Alderaan in 0 BBY. If Leia never became a Queen and New Alderaan wasn't ruled by a Monarch, the Organa Dinasty was finished. Leia's title of Princess became only a honorific title. Delmarnori 22:30, 5 October 2007
Isn't it a moot point, since Alderaan was effectively converted into an artificial asteroid field? -Snartyblartfast
Bounty
Did Zorba the Hutt still hava a bounty on her head in the later stories? Or did he take it off??? Quinlanfan 18:55, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- They were still hunted by the Hutts in Dark Empire, but we don't know if that was Zorba's doing. In Darksaber, Durga the Hutt removed all remaining Hutt bounties on Han and Leia. Evir Daal 09:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Leia's lightsaber
Leia's blue lightsaber that Saba Sebatyne took after the Swarm War (37 ABY) was some 20 years old. Luke gave Leia a red ligthsaber before the Black Fleet crisis in 16 ABY and I think she had the blue one during the Caamas Document Crisis in 19 ABY. Does a novel in there describe her building the blue one? Or is that never directly described? Thanks. -Fnlayson 20:38, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Leia Political Affiliation
Could someone have an idea of Leia political leaning and affiliation? Right or Left, Republican or Democrat... I know that those are not in the Star Wars Universe but just to have an idea.207.134.243.138 02:04, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- Republican or Democrat, LOL!. Doesn't matter. But you can read books where she has a major role and decide for yourself.. -Fnlayson 03:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- Republican and Democrat are American political parties, not "affiliations". Left and Right are political terms that originated on earth, specifically during the French Revolution. Neither are relevant to an entirely different galaxy. QuentinGeorge 09:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- If you think the Democrats are Left, you should see European politics... As for your question, I'd say you can't define Star Wars politics too closely from an OOU point of view. For one thing, they don't say that much about the politics or parties in the novels, and less in the films, except for the Empire, Vong etc being dictatorial and the Rebels, New Republic etc representing democracy. Best advice I can give you is to form your own opinion from the sources available. Evir Daal 09:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Republican and Democrat are American political parties, not "affiliations". Left and Right are political terms that originated on earth, specifically during the French Revolution. Neither are relevant to an entirely different galaxy. QuentinGeorge 09:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you to have take the time to respond but as I said it was only to make myself an idea and an idea of what other were thinking of it. Again thank you gentlemen.207.134.243.138 12:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- What ever Leia's actual political leanings (though, I wager they were quite along the lines of liberalism) she was an idealist who believed in the rights of the common galactic citizen. She, like her mother before her, fought to preserve democracy in a governmental system that had grown corrupt and rotted from within. History on this planet, anyway, shows that even the most democratic of republics can easily become totalitarian dictatorships, if only the right circumstances are in play. Leia's main political thrust has always been to keep the galaxy's citizens free and protected of their civil rights. Snartyblartfast: May 2, 20009
Death Star Plans
Someone should add more on the mission to Toprawa to get the Death Star plans, it seems a little out of place to mention it with the Ralltiir mission. 67.189.147.201 14:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, you're right. I think the correct order of events is: Ralltiir, Kattada, Toprawa, Tatooine (beginning of Epi-IV).
- Someone needs to add the Toprawan events. But I don't think she went to Toprawa directly after Kattada, unless the date (3 weeks BBY) in the Empire #6 article is wrong. —Unsigned comment by 84.158.206.22 (talk • contribs)
Princess leia in other slave outfits
[Redacted by administration] —Unsigned comment by 71.239.121.191 (talk • contribs)
- According to novels she wore other costumes but then wore a 2-piece at the end.--Animasage 20:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
What novels? —Unsigned comment by 71.239.121.191 (talk • contribs)
I don't get it, what's the meaning of the braclets on Princess Leia when she was a slave? —Unsigned comment by 71.239.121.191 (talk • contribs)
- As in shackles and chains for prisoners. Do you know what those are? -Fnlayson 03:52, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
- I don't understand the questions, which may be my own failing. [Redacted by administration] I guess I just don't understand the relevance of the question. As for the bracelets, they seemed to be the type of ornate decoration Jabba preferred on his harem girls... giving a sort of belly dancer appeal to the women pressed into his servitude.
I do know, from an interview I once heard on NPR, that Carrie Fisher hated the slave girl outfit. If nothing more, it didn't cover adequately and, she joked about the scenes Bobba Fett stood behind her next to Jabba, "he could see all the way to Florida."
Flawed information
Leia does NOT duel Darth Vader in a saber battle! That is just stupid! She never had a chance to battle Vader because HE WAS DEAD! She only saw him on Tauntive IV and the first Death Star. She only used guns, not sabers! After Vader is dead, then you can mess with the story. She never had love interests with anyone other than Han and Luke during the original trilogy. DUH! --66.218.18.38 03:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Expanded Universe. -- Ozzel 03:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Specifically, Leia battles Vader in Splinter of the Mind's Eye, the first Expanded Universe product ever. She also saw Vader multiple, multiple, multiple times throughout different Marvel comics and other EU sources. As for the love interests, once again we turn back to Marvel. Welcome to the EU. Jorrel 20px Fraajic 03:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
It's still stupid. Unless she could go back in time, or this was an alternate universe. --66.218.18.38 03:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- If it's the duel you refer to, that happens 2 years after A New Hope, 1 year before The Empire Strikes Back. No time travel required. -- Ozzel 04:05, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- And Vader does not die until 2 years after the duel in Splinter. -Fnlayson 05:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- It's my understanding thatSplinter isn't considered a part of the official S.W. cannon, anyway... though it was an interesting read, when I was a kid. I can understand why this novel isn't truly a part of the official story, because: The Force isn't derived from a physical crystal with mystic powers, but is "created by all living things," as Obi-Wan explained to Luke in IV; because the novel doesn't fit into the S.W. time line.
Lucas' "Force" is derived from the the concept of a Life Force believed by many to exist in all things. In this mind set, even rocks, the earth, the stars, the foliage, the animals and, yes, humans are all connected because they are all "alive" with life energy(this is corroborated by Yoda's description to an unbelieving Luke why raising the X-Wing from the swamp was not impossible). This, then, is why various Pagan and mainstream religions, either modern or from antiquity, considered all elements around us sacred, for they all contain life. "Luminous beings are we," Yoda once told Luke. "Not just crude matter."
Second, as pertaining to Splinter: The whole time line thing previously brought up about when and how Leia next comes in contact with Vader. The only thing I liked about the story, in hind sight, was the fact that you have this adventure being had with the unknown-to-them twins fighting together. That bit is pretty cool, though at the time of the story's writing, we don't yet know that Luke and Leia are siblings. --Snartyblartfast 16:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC) Snartyblartfast
Signature
What is this signature nonsense? It's in latin alphabet, not in aurabesh. How could it be Leia's? I think it should be removed.Gorthuar 10:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- See Alternate Basic alphabet. -LtNOWIS 00:29, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Main image
According to WP:MOS the main image should be the most current (live action if possible) one of the character. As such, I thought I would propose the following two images as alternates promotional shots from Episode VI to replace the Episode IV promo shot. Thoughts? Anybody think either of these would make a better main image? Personally, I lean towards the second one. - JMAS 13:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC) File:Leia endorpromo01.jpg File:Leia endorpromo02.jpg
- I prefer them both to the existing picture. I think I slightly lean more toward the first one, though. jSarek 15:11, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- Stick with the current one. --Redemption25px(Talk) 15:26, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that rule's actually in the MOS, and no CTs on the matter ever officially passed. -- Ozzel 21:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- Consensus was passed that basically looked at all infobox on a case by case basis. Whatever looks best. --Redemption25px(Talk) 03:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- And both of these pics are better than Bunhead Leia, so no reason not to vote. jSarek 06:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- "A misconception not supported by fact." You may say that it's better but instead of ramming your opinion down everyones throats, put it to vote. Don't be so quick to think that your word is holy. --Redemption25px(Talk) 16:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- Of course it's an opinion, based solely on my own aesthetic preferences. I've done no ramming, and made the suggestion myself to put it to a vote, so I don't get why you're accusing me of thinking my word is holy. jSarek 22:22, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- Because you came off arrogant and self-centered. If you have any problems with that, I suggest you word your sentences better. --Redemption25px(Talk) 03:32, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Of course it's an opinion, based solely on my own aesthetic preferences. I've done no ramming, and made the suggestion myself to put it to a vote, so I don't get why you're accusing me of thinking my word is holy. jSarek 22:22, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- "A misconception not supported by fact." You may say that it's better but instead of ramming your opinion down everyones throats, put it to vote. Don't be so quick to think that your word is holy. --Redemption25px(Talk) 16:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- And both of these pics are better than Bunhead Leia, so no reason not to vote. jSarek 06:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- Consensus was passed that basically looked at all infobox on a case by case basis. Whatever looks best. --Redemption25px(Talk) 03:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that rule's actually in the MOS, and no CTs on the matter ever officially passed. -- Ozzel 21:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
New main image vote
File:Princessleiaheadwithgun.jpg|Option 1 (Current image) File:Leia endorpromo01.jpg|Option 2 File:Leia endorpromo02.jpg|Option 3 File:Leia endoroffpix.jpg|Option 4
Option 1
Redemption25px(Talk) 03:32, 7 October 2007 (UTC)Ozzel 04:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)- Tinwe 07:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Jaina Leia Mara 15:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- --Snartyblartfast 05:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Option 2
- jSarek 22:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
- Lord Hydronium 04:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delmarnori 08:10, 7 October 2007
- Olsonman (Talk) 14:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- First one won't win so go with second best. Redemption25px(Talk) 21:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- -- AdmirableAckbar [Talk] 21:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately, per Red. -- Ozzel 18:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Option 3
JMAS 17:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)- Yes, yes, yes. Thefourdotelipsis 04:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- I hate hairbuns. Firebird Phoenix Rising 20px 09:21, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yay! Petiflo 02:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- If we must have one of these, I prefer this one. Captain Daal 20px 09:21, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Have you something else in mind? jSarek 09:37, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I just favored other alternatives from the earlier vote, but since they were defeated, I'll stick with this one. Captain Daal 20px 09:44, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Have you something else in mind? jSarek 09:37, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Least shit. Havac 05:56, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- QuentinGeorge 05:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Option 4
- JMAS 02:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Better than op. 2. Fnlayson 04:08, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ozzel 06:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
- Cheeseman 15:52, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Comments
- I too like Option 2, but I just don't think the shadow across her face, cast by the pistol, makes for a good infobox image. - JMAS 17:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- A agree about the shadow, but I'll still gladly (well, not gladly, but I will) change my vote from 1 to 2 if it will mean 2 beating 3. -- Ozzel 21:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Gotta ask, what is it you dislike about 3? - JMAS 21:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Personally, it's the fact that it's her in her "Ewok" getup, eyes are humungous, she doesn't look like the leader of the rebels, and the way it's cropped (it's a square...) is pretty poor. Even with headshots, the height needs to be longer then the width. --Redemption25px(Talk) 01:26, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- For me, it's just that... well, we all know Carrie had some problems in the past. She just doesn't look at her best there. -- Ozzel 04:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- Personally, it's the fact that it's her in her "Ewok" getup, eyes are humungous, she doesn't look like the leader of the rebels, and the way it's cropped (it's a square...) is pretty poor. Even with headshots, the height needs to be longer then the width. --Redemption25px(Talk) 01:26, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- Gotta ask, what is it you dislike about 3? - JMAS 21:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- A agree about the shadow, but I'll still gladly (well, not gladly, but I will) change my vote from 1 to 2 if it will mean 2 beating 3. -- Ozzel 21:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I added another option as an alternate to Image 3. I actually prefer this one. - JMAS 02:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Not bad, but I think I'll stick with my existing vote. jSarek 04:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Shouldn't we use the most recent picture i.e. from Exile. Or does this not apply to characters in the movies?Darth Balls 22:28, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah I think we should use the most recent picture Jaina Leia MaraJedi Knight
- Photo shots take precedence over art. Firebird Phoenix Rising 20px 13:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
This vote has long since petered out, with options 2 and 3 tied for votes. Since the existing image was clearly outvoted, it seemed only appropriate to replace it, but with no clear front-runner, I had to pick one. I decided the least controversial course of action would be to put up the one that I *don't* prefer. Should the community wish to revisit this decision with a new vote, they should do so. jSarek 11:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
GA-Confederation War
I move that the "Allegiance with Corellia" section be ended and a new section begun. First, because that title is no longer an accurate description of Leia's status in this war, and secondly, because that section has grown far longer than most other sections. Additionally, I don't think Leia's bio has been updated since...maybe...Sacrifice? —Unsigned comment by 72.179.50.88 (talk • contribs)
Princess?
Why is she called princess after Alderaan was destroyed?Darth Oompa Loompa 22:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Check the archives and see if that's enough or not. -Fnlayson 20:12, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
spoiler
how is it possible Leia recalls seeing her mother die/her own birth? I know short-term memory is a jedi power but is long-term memory? Should her recollection be included in Dark Force Rising page or Leia's page or neither? Izquierdista 19:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- First of all, sign your comments, even if you're not registered. As to your question, I believe we already know that since Leia stated similarly in RotJ. And Jedi powers vary... Nanook 07:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- However, in Dark Force Rising she recalls seeing Bail at her birth as well.
- Hmm... he was nearby. Nanook 21:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- nearby or not, who remembers the physical surroundings of their birth? is this a jedi power? should this be on the Leia Organa Solo page Izquierdista 22:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- IMHO it's part Force-assisted, part real memory. Experts says that we don;t usually have any memories beyond when we're two years old, yet I have a memory of when I was about a year old that was later told to me in dreams. How likely is it that Leia had some sort of dream, asked Bail and then he sat her down and told her part of the story? Yeah, I can see that happening, unfortunately it's not canon or even an official retcon. Katana Geldar 13:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- nearby or not, who remembers the physical surroundings of their birth? is this a jedi power? should this be on the Leia Organa Solo page Izquierdista 22:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm... he was nearby. Nanook 21:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- However, in Dark Force Rising she recalls seeing Bail at her birth as well.
- Thats a good idea. I wonder what if Bail would have told her anything. He seems concerned with keeping everything under wraps but also seems likely to tell her enough that she would maybe have some memory or think she had some memory like through schema. Izquierdista 05:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think Bail would have told her something, even if only confirming that the woman that Leia has these "images" and "feelings" is her REAL mother. Leia would probably not have known that this woman she had memories of (perhaps even dreamed about) was her mother until she had either asked someone else or seen some other reference somewhere (which is unlikely, as that may have also revealled her name which Leia probably did not know at all).
- FTR, GL has ALWAYS said that Leia remembers her real mother, which is Padme, so there is no dispute on that fact. Katana Geldar 08:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Because someone asked me I will say this here as they didn't sign my user page, FTR stands for For The Record and GL is (of course George Lucas. Katana Geldar 10:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Dancer
Ive seen on several pages that Leia was a "Slave Dancer" in Jabbas Palace. How do we know she was a dancer? is their any proof of that?JediBob 21:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well she was wearing a dancing girl costume, but is there anywhere in the EU that she actually does any dancing? Katana Geldar 00:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- In the novels i've read, there has been to reference to Leia dancing but http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=DH13771 refers to Leia as a slave "dancer". In Return of the Jedi, she isn't dancing, but Jabba is well known for his interest in female human accompaniment and "entetainment". Izquierdista 03:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
In this article http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Slave_Leia, it says she did. User:TripleJedi/TripleJedi 20:11, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- You mean that fanwank. -- I need a name (Complain here) 13:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
that link brings us to a poorly written article w/o sourcing. then again my link brings us to a action figure website Izquierdista 05:36, 27 June 2008 (UTC) sorry
- Well, Leia had definitely been inducted into Jabba's harem of beautiful women, anyway. Though a number of humanoid races were evident, Jabba did seem to have a particular fancy for Twi'lek women (there are some evident in the harem, including the one who is killed for resisting the Hutt's advances), but Leia was a special "catch," since she was an ally to Solo, etc. I think it was implied she was also expected to dance, though she was kept on a relatively short leash / chain where Jabba could keep her close. --Snartyblartfast 06:06, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Metalorn
Leia did NOT go to Metalorn in 1 ABY as this article erroneously states. The Rebels evacuated Yavin base 6 months after the Battle of Yavin. In Marvel #30 "A Princess Alone" she departs Yavin base to go to Metalorn. Thus, the story is set early in the first few months after the Battle of Yavin before they evacuate. 72.80.168.123 17:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Cinnamon buns
I think the "doughnut hairstyle" section should be renamed to the "cinnamon buns hairstyle." The section mentions cinnamon buns, but I think it should be reworded in order to make cinnamon buns the primary reference, not a secondary reference. I've always heard the style referred to as cinnamon buns and never really heard it called a doughnut style. What do you all think? -- Colinmcev 02:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Since the page is locked, I can add this directly. But perhaps somebody with the right powers can. There is a reference in the section about women from Valencia, Spain having a similar hairstyle. In fact, the hair style is quite ancient as can be seen in the famous 4 century BC Iberian statue known as the Lady of Elx ("La Dama de Elche" in Spanish), "Dama d'Elx" in Valencian). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_of_Elx
- I don't understand the confusion about Leia's double-bun hair do. Variations of this hair style were common as late as the 19th and early 20th Centuries, as well as long, long before. I had seen an interview with Mr. Lucas who stated the inspiration for the double-bun was the style worn popularly by early 19th Century female Mexican revolutionaries. Since Leia herself is a young revolutionary, he thought it would be a fitting look. Indeed, most of Leia's elaborate hair-do's are derived from styles worn by women pre 1940's. My grandmother, herself, used to wear the "halo" braid Leia wears on the moon of Endor. I also have a photo of my great grandmother actually wearing a similar style. The looks Leia's character is given are classic do's... very smart, I think, so that the movies / stories never look "dated" or easily-identifiable by decade. User: Snartyblartfast May 3, 2009
Queen of the Alderaanii
As heir of Alderaan, would not Leia be Queen of New Alderaan? And her children thereafter? Or did they abandon the Alderaan people? Drachenfyre 12:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- In theory, she could have become an Alderaanian Queen. I recall her complaining once about people calling her Princess, asking when it would stop, and Han replied "when you become Queen." But maybe she made the decision that when Alderaan was destroyed, its monarchy went with it. Either way, she didn't take the title, when it was rightfully hers. And since no other Queen was ever mentioned, it's safe to assume that no one else took the role.Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith 16:40, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, I have always been under the impression that Leia only wore the honorific "Princess" because it had been required of her, while Alderaan existed. She may have uncomfortably allowed others to still refer to her as "Princess Leia," post destruction of said planet, mostly out of diplomacy and in memory of her fallen home. The woman, herself, detested the fuss, pomp and circumstance that went along with the royal title and station... if her reactions to Han referring to her as "Your Worshipfulness," etc are to be taken at face value. Both Leia and her mother, even just going by the movie cannon, were women somewhat ill at ease with the frills of high office and rank, but who used their lofty positions as tools for protecting the rights of their own people... and that of the galactic citizens.
This may have become even more important to do, by the time Leia was old enough to take office, because of the ever-decreasing validity given to female politicians, in the Galactic Empire. The stifling of the feminine voice, politically, may have made even Leia's rank as Senator nearly moot. Only her royal position coupled with diplomatic immunity as a senator gave her enough carte blanche to do what she must for the rebellion. I don't think Leia would have, ultimately, accepted the roll and title of Queen of Alderaan, however, unless doing so would have given her enough political clout to help others and bring peace to the people. --Snartyblartfast 21:56, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Death
In the comic Tilotny Throws a Shape Leia dies but is later revived by one of the spirits. Shouldn't we mention this in the infobox?QuiGonJinn(Comlink)20px 18:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Millenium Falcon?
Millenium Falcon (novel) information? JediNTT307 02:23, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
a Rebel General
Leia WAS a general at the Battle of Endor. She wears a General's insignia, and POTJ refers to this costume as the "General Leia Organa" action figureJustinGann 19:12, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I didn't know that, but you placed her in that category as Carlist Rieekan anyway. QuiGonJinnThe ability to speak does not make you intelligent.20px 19:21, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Lightsaber
Can someone tell me what colors are the lightsabers of leia--Darth Judicar 1998 10:18, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Her first lightsaber—which she constructed herself, if I recall correctly—was blue (though for some reason she's wielding a yellow one on the cover of Planet of Twilight), and the one Luke gave her just before the First Corellian Insurrection had a crimson blade. The new lightsaber she built after the Dark Nest Crisis was also blue. --Tinwe 17:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Also, she has a double bladed yellow saber in Masters of Teras Kasi. QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 19:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that in Planet of Twilight she was using the lightsaber of Taselda (which was presumably yellow/orange) to duel Beldorion, and that it wasn't her own. That explains the cover of PoT. Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith 14:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- That must be the reason. It's been a long time since I read the book. :P --Tinwe 07:13, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that in Planet of Twilight she was using the lightsaber of Taselda (which was presumably yellow/orange) to duel Beldorion, and that it wasn't her own. That explains the cover of PoT. Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith 14:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- Also, she has a double bladed yellow saber in Masters of Teras Kasi. QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 19:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
fighting style
WHat is the fighting style of leia? —Unsigned comment by Darth Judicar 1998 (talk • contribs)
- What do you mean, "fighting style"? Star Wars are not Jackie Chan's films...QuiGonJinnBe mindful of the Living Force...16px 13:50, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- I believe what "Darth Judicar 1998" (who needs to sign his posts, btw) is asking, is what discipline of lightsaber combat does Leia practice most. Gethralkin 19:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, I see now. As for the question, well, she doesn't use her lightsaber a lot, so it is really hard to decide which style does she use. QuiGonJinnBe mindful of the Living Force...16px 19:31, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- I believe what "Darth Judicar 1998" (who needs to sign his posts, btw) is asking, is what discipline of lightsaber combat does Leia practice most. Gethralkin 19:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Darth is actually quite right. At least in the novel "The Force Unleashed," several different styles are mentioned. Several of the same are commonly mentioned in "The Clone Wars" animated series references... especially the video game of the same name. Every Jedi, and conversely every Sith, had a fighting style (or combination there of) that was their signature in a duel. It stands to reason, in any case, since all formal types of dueling or hand-to-hand combat have names for specific moves or styles, etc. I am unaware, however, of what style Leia preferred. --Snartyblartfast 22:10, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
This seems right
Shouldn't she be Leia Amidalla Skywalker Organa Solo? That sounds normal, but weird. First name, middle name, maiden name, adopted surname, (married) surname.--Troublesome Truck fan 12:17, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- "Leia Organa Solo" is what she calls herself and is known as after her marriage, and is her actual name. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 19:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Captured
In the Force Unleashed video game Leia Organa is held prisioner on Kassakye. she is rescued by Galen Marek though. In her biography here, there is no mention of this event.
- Umm, "The rebel Senator" section, first paragraph? QuiGonJinnThere's always a bigger fish. 16:22, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it was mentioned, actually. Still, as always, though sometimes used by the Empire to set an example (of what happens to traitors), Leia was a girl who could hold her own... like her mother.
Leia: "Is there still an Imperial transport on the landing platform?"
Galen: "Y-yes, but I think the pilot may be dead."
Leia: "And what makes you think I need a pilot?" --Snartyblartfast 06:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Birthplace
"Leia was born on the asteroid colony of Polis Massa in 19 BBY, shortly after the start of the Great Jedi Purge and the foundation of the Galactic Empire." I think it's pretty clear that she was not born on Polis Massa... any reason that is there? —Unsigned comment by 209.91.141.58 (talk • contribs)
- Watch Revenge of the Sith again. -- I need a name (Complain here) 17:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Image
Found this image here on wookieepedia. Its an image of Padmé Amidala bearing the same hairstyle and clothing as Leia did during A New Hope. This image takes place, I believe, during the Clone Wars. Is it possible to use this image in any way in this article? Dark Ridley 18:00, 3 May 2009 (UTC)