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This page is an archive of the Trash compactor discussion about the future of Wookieepedia's coverage of the topic(s) listed below, including whether or not to delete or redirect the relevant page(s). This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the relevant talk pages or in the Senate Hall forum rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Keep, rename to Claimsies, redirect "Unclaimsies" to new title. —spookywillowwtalk 04:37, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

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This is well written and referenced, yeah, but this boils down to a child's name for the concept "takeback/no takeback". I think this is a universal concept that doesn't need an article. Also, even by the dialogue of the show, "unclaimsies" isn't an actual thing. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 14:58, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Redirect to List of phrases and slang

  1. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 14:57, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  2. Xd1358 (Talk) 15:01, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  3. It definitely needs to be covered, but List of phrases and slang would suffice. Same with "Claimsies." Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 15:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  4. 01miki10 Open comlink 15:28, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  5. I agree with Rsand that it's plot significant, but I don't think it's notable enough as a standalone concept to justify having its own page. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 16:16, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  6. Claimsies/Unclaimsies are both just childish versions of the word claim. There's nothing particularly unique about them that needs its own page since they'll be covered on List of phrases and slang. CometSmudge (talk) 17:38, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
    • Disagreed, there's more to it than just "claim", both technically (from a grammatical viewpoint, you call claimsies but never "call claim") and practically (it involves a whole procedure). @Mustafar29「talk」(he/him/his/hisself) 21:16, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep

I think it could be merged/moved to Claimsies. It's been used twice now in the show and actually holds value as silly as it may be, SM-33 considered it a valid claim that overpowers the pirate code lol Mor9347 ForPipadaLogo-UserImage (Talk) 15:00, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
I call keepsies. - Xanderen 15:02, 11 January 2025 (UTC) (Vote struck, reason: Per policy: Users must contribute 50 edits within the last 6 months under their registered Wookieepedia account to become voting-eligible. Edits to userpages and talk pages and any reverted and deleted edits do not count toward this total. -- Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 15:07, 11 January 2025 (UTC))
Per above, idk about a page for "unclaimsies" by itself, but "claimsies" is actually notable to the plot of Skeleton Crew, plus it has specific rules the kids use (like claiming the outside of the ship versus the interior, etc) I think claimsies is worth a page. Rsand 30 (talk) 15:08, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
I understand your concerns, mostly because I had them myself before writing the article. The doubts I had, I dispelled, though, and so let me try to dispel yours 😁
1. If we assume unclaimsies is a real-world concept, it doesn't qualify it to be deleted per se. There's much more earthly stuff going around the wiki, including linen or caf.
2. Unclaimsies isn't so down-to-earth as it appears. First and foremost, it is a Star-Wars-sized version, given that the very word unclaimsies is not an existing lexeme. As unclaimsies is Star-Wars-sized un-dibs, so are caf and turbolifts Star-Wars-sized coffee and elevators, respectively, the only difference being that unclaimsies isn't a physical object. But here at Wookiee, we don't limit ourselves to physical objects only, cf. Democracy.
3. The notion that unclaimsies isn't an actual thing is gravely incorrect in light of the last episode! Afterall, it was enough of a real thing for SM-33 to switch his allegiances, which—as the previous had shown—he doesn't do unless his programming permits. Rather than a non-existent thing, it's at worst a controversial thing from an in-universe viewpoint, just like many in-universe controversial viewpoints, including Beaumont Kin's historiography, where he often resorts to non-definitive statements. Overall, I call keepsies and second Mor9347 that SM-33 considered it a valid claim that overpowers the pirate code. @Mustafar29「talk」(he/him/his/hisself) 15:21, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
The multiple appearances and the power to overrule the Pirate's Code convinced me. But Claimsies and unclaimsies should definitely be together. NBDani TeamFireballLogo-Collider(they/them)Yeager's Repairs 17:15, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  • See, I disagree with the idea that it "overruled" the Pirate's Code; to me it came across as SM-33 just deciding to side with the kids. He even says as much, that it doesn't actually overrule the Code, but that it's "good enough" for him to pick a side. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 17:19, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
    • SM-33 is a droid programmed to follow the Pirate's Code so closely he couldn't fathom being on the Onyx Cinder without a captain. I genuinely believe SM-33 liked the kids and used the claimsies rules as an excuse, but the fact it was enough for SM-33 to "override" his protocol I think is important. NBDani TeamFireballLogo-Collider(they/them)Yeager's Repairs 17:29, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
    • Exactly! It's good enough for him to treat it as a loophole to override the Pirate's Code. @Mustafar29「talk」(he/him/his/hisself) 12:48, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep, rename to Claimsies, redirect "Unclaimsies" to new title

  1. —spookywillowwtalk 17:37, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  2. Per what I said above. NBDani TeamFireballLogo-Collider(they/them)Yeager's Repairs 17:40, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  3. Per my points previously stated in Keep Mor9347 ForPipadaLogo-UserImage (Talk) 17:48, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  4. Darth Soda CIS roundel (Talk) 17:51, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  5. Per my initial vote. Rsand 30 (talk) 18:05, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  6. I don't see the harm. It's a cultural item with signifiance to the plot. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 18:17, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  7. "Movies". Per my page-turning argumentation from Keep. @Mustafar29「talk」(he/him/his/hisself) 18:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  8. Keepsies OOM 224 (he/him/they) 18:33, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  9. Lewisr (talk) 19:05, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
  10. ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 21:20, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
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  12. Drour1234 (talk) 08:53, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
  13. StarWarsFan327 (talk) 17:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
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  17. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 14:28, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
  18. Fan26 (Talk) 18:03, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

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