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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Delete Unidentified clone trooper 3 (Citadel), keep Unidentified clone naval officer (Citadel), no consensus for the rest. Imperators II(Talk) 10:24, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Non-notable unidentifieds, round 3

This is the third round of unidentified characters that from my perspective don't have any significance or plot contribution to the storylines of the media that they appear in.

Jaster Fett (talk) 23:49, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Unidentified LEP servant droid 5 (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

Said droid is only seen dropping what it was holding, with Threepio calling it a droid with "malfunctioning digits" but this does not show a significant plot role in any way. Jaster Fett (talk) 17:14, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Lewisr (talk) 17:32, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. Bts info doesn't make this specific droid notable. Rsand 30 (talk) 18:20, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  3. Jaster Fett (talk) 22:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  4. Per Rsand, this can easily just be covered in the BTS of the droid model. Imperators II(Talk) 10:08, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
  5. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:10, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
  6. OOM 224 16:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
  7. Loqiical (talk) 00:45, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
  8. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 21:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
  9. Per Rsand. Asithol (talk) 09:44, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Keep

  1. This is actually a special case since we have some BTS information, per the featurette Editoronthewiki (talk) 17:34, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
    It would be beneficial if you either added the info to the page so users can see, or detail it here Lewisr (talk) 18:32, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
    Added Editoronthewiki (talk) 03:53, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. ^^^ - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 17:38, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  3. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 22:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
  4. Fan26 (Talk) 14:59, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
  5. VergenceScatter (talk) 20:19, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  6. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 23:21, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  7. Manoof (he/him/his) RainbowRebellion2 01:05, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
  8. ThrawnChiss7 ThrawnHS Alliances Assembly Cupola 19:00, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
  9. —spookywillowwtalk 20:50, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
  10. Immi Thrax RainbowRebellion2 (she/her) 11:20, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
  11. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:07, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
    Fan26 (Talk) 19:24, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
  • Did i just...vote twice? Fan26 (Talk) 19:25, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Comments

  • I'm personally abstaining but whether or not having BTS information makes a subject notable has been very frequently flip-flopped on in TCs, with many TCs voting in favor of delete with the majority stating BTS doesn't render it notable, while others with no decision or keep have dictated otherwise. I genuinely have no clue if there even is a precedent on this matter because decisions have contradicted one another here. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 22:41, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
    • As an aside, I do vividly remember watching the TCs in question take place. I have searched for them since then in an attempt to discern a precedent to make a vote on this article, but I cannot find them, hence my abstain (aside from the fact these TCs have also been contradicted by other TCs). - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 22:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Unidentified LEP servant droid 6 (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This character is only seen setting up the cake, its dialogue consists of counting the fruit, don't see any worthy plot contribution here.Jaster Fett (talk) 17:14, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Lewisr (talk) 17:32, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. Rsand 30 (talk) 18:20, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  3. Jaster Fett (talk) 22:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  4. Imperators II(Talk) 10:08, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
  5. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:10, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
  6. OOM 224 16:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
  7. Personality and traits: the droid can count Loqiical (talk) 00:45, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
  8. Why would counting be notable. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 22:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
  9. —spookywillowwtalk 20:50, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
  10. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 21:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
  11. Asithol (talk) 09:44, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Neither exclamation nor affirmation. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 22:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. VergenceScatter (talk) 20:19, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  3. More than a simple exclamation, imho. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 23:21, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  4. Manoof (he/him/his) RainbowRebellion2 01:05, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
  5. Fan26 (Talk) 17:57, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
  6. ThrawnChiss7 ThrawnHS Alliances Assembly Cupola 19:00, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
  7. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 23:39, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:07, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified clone trooper 3 (Citadel) (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

No dialogue. This trooper is only seen as part of the rescue team throughout the entire Citadel arc, falling to his death towards the end.Jaster Fett (talk) 17:14, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Lewisr (talk) 17:32, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. Rsand 30 (talk) 18:20, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  3. Jaster Fett (talk) 22:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  4. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 22:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
  5. Imperators II(Talk) 10:08, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
  6. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:10, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
  7. OOM 224 16:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
  8. Fan26 (Talk) 15:00, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
  9. VergenceScatter (talk) 20:19, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  10. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 23:21, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  11. I was leaning towards keep given the selection for this elite mission but there's 3 unnamed troopers with this armor plus Longshot (who dies early), so it's impossible to determine who does what from scene to scene. He's the last one to survive but other than that I don't think there's anything significant any of these particularly dressed clones do that is notable. Manoof (he/him/his) RainbowRebellion2 01:05, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
  12. Loqiical (talk) 00:46, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
  13. ThrawnChiss7 ThrawnHS Alliances Assembly Cupola 19:00, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
  14. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 22:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
  15. —spookywillowwtalk 20:50, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
  16. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 21:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
  17. Asithol (talk) 09:44, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
  18. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:07, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Keep

Comments

Unidentified Ewok sentry (talk - history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This Ewok is only seen listening to Threepio's tale, which doesn't show any worthy contribution to the plot but I have no idea if the sources listed help enhance its notability. Jaster Fett (talk) 17:14, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Lewisr (talk) 17:32, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. Not notable. Rsand 30 (talk) 18:20, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  3. Jaster Fett (talk) 22:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  4. Imperators II(Talk) 10:08, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
  5. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:10, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
  6. OOM 224 16:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
  7. The card refers to Ewok senties in general, not a particular one. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 23:21, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  8. Loqiical (talk) 00:46, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
  9. Stormtrooper is an occupation and we thus know every stormtrooper's occupation. Doesn't make them notable. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 22:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
  10. —spookywillowwtalk 20:50, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
  11. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 21:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
  12. Per Supreme Emperor. Asithol (talk) 09:44, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Keep

  1. May not be named. But they are identified in a source. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 17:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 22:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
  3. VergenceScatter (talk) 20:19, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  4. The card ID's this character as a sentry, so this should definitely be kept Manoof (he/him/his) RainbowRebellion2 01:05, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
  5. ThrawnChiss7 ThrawnHS Alliances Assembly Cupola 19:00, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
  6. Immi Thrax RainbowRebellion2 (she/her) 11:20, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
  7. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:07, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
  8. Fan26 (Talk) 19:24, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified Weequay guard (talk - history - links - logs - delete - protect)

I don't know if the sources listed make this guy notable in any way but in the movie he is only seen for a few seconds when he opens up a window on the sail barge only to be grabbed by Luke and thrown into the sarlacc. Jaster Fett (talk) 17:14, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. The apparent other mention adds nothing that makes the character notable Lewisr (talk) 17:32, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. Per Lew. Rsand 30 (talk) 18:20, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  3. Jaster Fett (talk) 22:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  4. Imperators II(Talk) 10:08, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
  5. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:10, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
  6. OOM 224 16:16, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
  7. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 23:21, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  8. Loqiical (talk) 00:48, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
  9. Stormtrooper is an occupation and we thus know every stormtrooper's occupation. Doesn't make them notable. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 22:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
  10. —spookywillowwtalk 20:50, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
  11. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 21:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
  12. Asithol (talk) 09:44, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Keep

  1. May not be named. But they are identified in a source. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 17:29, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 22:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
  3. Not the most important, but prominently featured on two cards, with a brief memorable moment in the movie. JMM (talk) 16:12, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
  4. VergenceScatter (talk) 20:19, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  5. The card confirms their occupation so this should be kept Manoof (he/him/his) RainbowRebellion2 01:05, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
  6. ThrawnChiss7 ThrawnHS Alliances Assembly Cupola 19:00, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
  7. Immi Thrax RainbowRebellion2 (she/her) 11:20, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:07, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Comments

Unidentified clone naval officer (Citadel) (history - links - logs - delete - protect)

This clone officer is only seen accompanying the rescue team after being rescued and dies towards the end. I don't see any significant plot role/dialogue here.Jaster Fett (talk) 17:14, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Delete

  1. Lewisr (talk) 17:32, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. Asithol (talk) 09:44, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Keep

  1. The article says "When a STAP began to fire down at Tarkin, the naval officer pushed Tarkin out of the way and took the shots himself, killing him." OOM 224 17:36, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  2. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 17:39, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  3. Notable actions. Rsand 30 (talk) 18:20, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  4. I now have second thoughts.Jaster Fett (talk) 22:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
  5. SorcererSupreme21 (talk) 22:49, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
  6. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 20:10, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
  7. VergenceScatter (talk) 20:19, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  8. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 23:21, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
  9. Plot significance as above Manoof (he/him/his) RainbowRebellion2 01:05, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
  10. Loqiical (talk) 00:49, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
  11. ThrawnChiss7 ThrawnHS Alliances Assembly Cupola 19:00, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
  12. - Thannus (DFaceG) (he/him) (talk) 22:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
  13. —spookywillowwtalk 20:50, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
  14. NanoLuukeCloning Facility 21:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
  15. Ayrehead02 (talk) 08:07, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
  16. Fan26 (Talk) 19:25, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Comments