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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debates were Keep for Defeat the Dark Side, Drunk Driving PSA, Smoking PSA, and Star Wars Immunization PSA; and no consensus, default to Keep for Energizer Bunny, Star Wars Burger Chef Commercial, Supervolt, and The Force (Volkswagen). jSarek (talk) 00:26, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Non-canon commercials and PSAs

This trash compactor discussion contains various commercials and public service announcements that do not contain any new canon material. Just because a commercial or PSA contains Star Wars actors reprising their roles or contains Star Wars-related characters does not mean that we need to have an article for them. There are countless more commercials that have used Star Wars elements in them, and I do not believe that we should open the door to having an article for every commercial that uses something from Star Wars. (NOTE: Vector Prime television commercial and Tone poems are examples of commercials that include new canon elements.)--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 04:46, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Defeat the Dark Side (talk - history - links - logs)

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  1. As nominator.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 04:46, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 04:51, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:58, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. These should all be obvious deletes, but the hyperinclusionists will probably get their way no matter what. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 07:17, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. This is a useless article. It benefits NO ONE here. JangFett (Talk) 22:49, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Winterz (talk) 03:15, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

Keep

  1. There are lots of things on Wookieepedia that don't add new canon material, including everything in Category:Infinities and the vast majority of things in Category:Star Wars culture. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be here. These things were all officially sanctioned by Lucasfilm, are important bits of Star Wars history, and belong here. jSarek (talk) 05:00, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. As above. —Silly Dan (talk) 05:14, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Menkooroo (talk) 06:06, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. Agree with jSarek, I do. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 06:10, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. Either you have NONE or ALL, as long as it's officially sanctioned Manoof (talk) 07:18, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 10:36, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  7. We really should keep it. Yes, it may not be canon nor add new canon material, but guess what? So does the Robot Chicken Star Wars specials and the Family Guy's Laugh it off Fuzzball specials, and last I checked, those were official LucasFilm productions (not to mention actually part of the wiki), and most likely those commercials were also official LucasFilm productions as well (otherwise, US Government PSA or not, they would not have gotten the rights to use them). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:50, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  8. It's important to keep this stuff so we can find it with a "What links here" and mention it in BTS sections of appropriate articles. ~SavageBOB sig 13:26, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  9. Definitely. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 17:28, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  10. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:41, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
  11. Thunderforge (talk) 04:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  12. Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 05:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  13. Adamwankenobi (talk) 14:24, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
  14. Cumulonimbus Cloud (ℳeeting ℛoom) 19:32, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
  15. Bo Shuda (talk) 10:46, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Drunk Driving PSA (talk - history - links - logs)

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  1. As nominator.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 04:46, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 04:51, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:58, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 07:17, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. This is a useless article. It benefits NO ONE here. JangFett (Talk) 22:49, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Per my argument for Defeat the Dark Side, above. jSarek (talk) 05:00, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. As above. —Silly Dan (talk) 05:14, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Menkooroo (talk) 06:06, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. Agree with jSarek, I do. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 06:10, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. As above Manoof (talk) 07:18, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 10:36, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  7. We really should keep it. Yes, it may not be canon nor add new canon material, but guess what? So does the Robot Chicken Star Wars specials and the Family Guy's Laugh it off Fuzzball specials, and last I checked, those were official LucasFilm productions (not to mention actually part of the wiki), and most likely those commercials were also official LucasFilm productions as well (otherwise, US Government PSA or not, they would not have gotten the rights to use them). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:50, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  8. It's important to keep this stuff so we can find it with a "What links here" and mention it in BTS sections of appropriate articles. ~SavageBOB sig 13:26, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  9. Definitely. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 17:28, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  10. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:45, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
  11. Thunderforge (talk) 04:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  12. Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 05:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  13. Adamwankenobi (talk) 14:24, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
  14. Cumulonimbus Cloud (ℳeeting ℛoom) 19:32, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
  15. Bo Shuda (talk) 10:47, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Energizer Bunny (talk - history - links - logs)

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  1. As nominator.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 04:46, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 04:51, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:58, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 07:17, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. This is a useless article. It benefits NO ONE here. JangFett (Talk) 22:49, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Per my argument for Defeat the Dark Side, above. jSarek (talk) 05:00, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. As above. —Silly Dan (talk) 05:14, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Menkooroo (talk) 06:06, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 06:11, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. As above Manoof (talk) 07:18, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 10:36, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  7. We really should keep it. Yes, it may not be canon nor add new canon material, but guess what? So does the Robot Chicken Star Wars specials and the Family Guy's Laugh it off Fuzzball specials, and last I checked, those were official LucasFilm productions (not to mention actually part of the wiki), and most likely those commercials were also official LucasFilm productions as well (otherwise, US Government PSA or not, they would not have gotten the rights to use them). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:50, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
    It's important to keep this stuff so we can find it with a "What links here" and mention it in BTS sections of appropriate articles. ~SavageBOB sig 13:26, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  8. Thunderforge (talk) 04:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  9. Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 05:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  10. Adamwankenobi (talk) 14:24, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
  11. Cumulonimbus Cloud (ℳeeting ℛoom) 19:34, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
  12. Bo Shuda (talk) 10:47, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

  • Actually, I think this should be merged into "Defeat the Dark Side". The commercial is notable; the elements within it are not. ~SavageBOB sig 18:37, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
    • A good point. I'd vote for that were it established. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 22:40, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
      • Except that the Defeat the Dark Side advertising campaign had nothing to do with the Energizer one. I agree on the general sentiment, though, which is why I suggested merging Supervolt with the Energizer Bunny down below. jSarek (talk) 22:59, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
        • Yes, right... I'm not as up to snuff on my commercial knowledge as I once was it seems. Do we not have an article for the Energizer ad? That would be a better home for it all. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 23:39, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
        • Ah, I see. In that case, I think it should be moved to "Energizer Bunny commercial" or something. ~SavageBOB sig 13:01, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
        • I would also agree with moving it to a new "Energizer Bunny commercial", although I'm voting Keep until such an article is created. -Thunderforge (talk) 05:37, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
    • Merging sounds like the best option to me. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:46, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
  • So guys, are we going to go ahead and add merge to the voting bloc? Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 14:41, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Smoking PSA (talk - history - links - logs)

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  1. As nominator.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 04:46, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 04:51, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:58, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 07:17, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. This is a useless article. It benefits NO ONE here. JangFett (Talk) 22:49, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Per my argument for Defeat the Dark Side, above. jSarek (talk) 05:00, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. As above. —Silly Dan (talk) 05:14, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Menkooroo (talk) 06:06, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 06:11, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. As above Manoof (talk) 07:18, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 10:36, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  7. We really should keep it. Yes, it may not be canon nor add new canon material, but guess what? So does the Robot Chicken Star Wars specials and the Family Guy's Laugh it off Fuzzball specials, and last I checked, those were official LucasFilm productions (not to mention actually part of the wiki), and most likely those commercials were also official LucasFilm productions as well (otherwise, US Government PSA or not, they would not have gotten the rights to use them). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:50, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  8. Per above and above. ~SavageBOB sig 13:28, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  9. Definitely. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 17:28, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  10. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:47, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
  11. Thunderforge (talk) 04:27, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  12. Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 05:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  13. Adamwankenobi (talk) 14:24, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
  14. Cumulonimbus Cloud (ℳeeting ℛoom) 19:35, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
  15. Bo Shuda (talk) 10:48, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Star Wars Burger Chef Commercial (talk - history - links - logs)

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  1. As nominator.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 04:46, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 04:51, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:58, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 07:17, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. Going to have to agree on this one. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 17:28, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  6. This is a useless article. It benefits NO ONE here. JangFett (Talk) 22:49, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Per my argument for Defeat the Dark Side, above. jSarek (talk) 05:00, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. As above. —Silly Dan (talk) 05:14, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Menkooroo (talk) 06:06, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 06:13, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. As above Manoof (talk) 07:18, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 10:36, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  7. We really should keep it. Yes, it may not be canon nor add new canon material, but guess what? So does the Robot Chicken Star Wars specials and the Family Guy's Laugh it off Fuzzball specials, and last I checked, those were official LucasFilm productions (not to mention actually part of the wiki), and most likely those commercials were also official LucasFilm productions as well (otherwise, US Government PSA or not, they would not have gotten the rights to use them). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:50, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  8. Per above and above and above. ~SavageBOB sig 13:28, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  9. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:47, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
  10. Thunderforge (talk) 04:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  11. Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 05:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  12. Adamwankenobi (talk) 14:24, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
  13. Cumulonimbus Cloud (ℳeeting ℛoom) 19:35, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
  14. Bo Shuda (talk) 10:49, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Star Wars Immunization PSA (talk - history - links - logs)

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  1. As nominator.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 04:46, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 04:51, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:58, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 07:17, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. This is a useless article. It benefits NO ONE here. JangFett (Talk) 22:49, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Per my argument for Defeat the Dark Side, above. jSarek (talk) 05:00, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. As above. —Silly Dan (talk) 05:14, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Menkooroo (talk) 06:06, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 06:13, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. As above Manoof (talk) 07:18, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 10:36, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  7. We really should keep it. Yes, it may not be canon nor add new canon material, but guess what? So does the Robot Chicken Star Wars specials and the Family Guy's Laugh it off Fuzzball specials, and last I checked, those were official LucasFilm productions (not to mention actually part of the wiki), and most likely those commercials were also official LucasFilm productions as well (otherwise, US Government PSA or not, they would not have gotten the rights to use them). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:50, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  8. Cue broken record. ~SavageBOB sig 13:29, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  9. Definitely. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 17:28, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  10. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:50, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
  11. Thunderforge (talk) 04:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  12. Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 05:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  13. Adamwankenobi (talk) 14:24, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
  14. Cumulonimbus Cloud (ℳeeting ℛoom) 19:36, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
  15. Bo Shuda (talk) 10:49, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Supervolt (talk - history - links - logs)

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  1. As nominator.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 04:46, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 04:51, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:58, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 07:17, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. This is a useless article. It benefits NO ONE here. JangFett (Talk) 22:49, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Winterz (talk) 03:14, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

Keep

  1. More iffy on this one, but it's not hurting anything to keep it. - JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 06:13, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
    As above. —Silly Dan (talk) 05:14, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. A bit more debatable, but if its officially recognized by LFL, there's no reason to delete it. At best, merge with the Energizer Bunny commercial if we really can't keep it as is. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:50, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
    Y'know, I would push for individual articles on Harland Sanders, the Chihuahua and Pizza Hut Girl, so why not this one? Menkooroo (talk) 05:11, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  3. This is no different than a page like Unidentified Gran Jedi or any of the non-canon Manga characters or items or vehicles in my opinion. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 05:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  4. Adamwankenobi (talk) 14:24, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
  5. Darth Pickle 2 (talk) 00:56, November 26, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Bo Shuda (talk) 10:50, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

The Force (Volkswagen) (talk - history - links - logs)

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  1. As nominator.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 04:46, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 04:51, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 04:58, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers 07:17, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. Now I'd say this doesn't even qualify as a fan film. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 17:28, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  6. This is a useless article. It benefits NO ONE here. JangFett (Talk) 22:49, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Per my argument for Defeat the Dark Side, above. jSarek (talk) 05:00, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  2. As above. And same goes for the "C-3PO's" cereal commercial if we have an article on that. —Silly Dan (talk) 05:14, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  3. Menkooroo (talk) 06:06, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  4. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 06:13, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  5. As above Manoof (talk) 07:18, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  6. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 10:36, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  7. We really should keep it. Yes, it may not be canon nor add new canon material, but guess what? So does the Robot Chicken Star Wars specials and the Family Guy's Laugh it off Fuzzball specials, and last I checked, those were official LucasFilm productions (not to mention actually part of the wiki), and most likely those commercials were also official LucasFilm productions as well (otherwise, US Government PSA or not, they would not have gotten the rights to use them). Heck, in this particular case, it was even shown on the Star Wars website (at least prior to the redo of the website), so that makes it even more clear that this was considered Official Star Wars/LucasFilm material. I thought the argument against these kinds of things was for whether it was official materials, not canonicity (heck, if we go by canonicity alone, a LOT of things would be deleted just because they aren't canon, like the Infinities brand or The Star Wars comics). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:50, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  8. Keep per all the above. ~SavageBOB sig 13:30, November 7, 2013 (UTC)
  9. Ayrehead02 (talk) 14:48, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
  10. Thunderforge (talk) 04:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  11. Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 05:31, November 12, 2013 (UTC)
  12. Adamwankenobi (talk) 14:24, November 17, 2013 (UTC)
  13. Cumulonimbus Cloud (ℳeeting ℛoom) 19:39, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
  14. Bo Shuda (talk) 10:51, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion