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Duplicate images
Bane 15.jpg: If a picture is already on the site then there is no need to upload it again. Just use the one that's already uploaded. If you're unsure how, please read the guide to image use. Thanks. - JMAS Hey, it's me! 20:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- JMAS answered on my talk page, so it would seem that he agrees with me. Photoshopping have been discussed before, and I think it was decided that only blanking out text bubbles/boxes and removing overlapping comic panels should be allowed. This because it is so hard to rule where the line goes between "improved" images and fan-art. Charlii 13:18, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Emperor and Nihilus
Please do not add unverified and speculatory info to articles, especially Featured Article nominations. You even stated yourself that no connection has been made between the two, so it's trivia and speculation to even write about a connection. Also, please source your contributions. Cade Calrayn 
03:14, November 10, 2012 (UTC)
Unilateral changes
Please stop. If you continue to unilaterally move pages without following the correct procedure, an administrator will block you from editing Wookieepedia. Making sweeping changes on a matter that has not yet reached consensus is not allowed. —GethralkinHyperwave 00:08, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
- It has come to my attention that the editing you conducted that was reverted—and which I labelled as "vandalism"—may have been in good faith and that you were unaware of the consensus process. Therefore, I apologize and will give you the benefit of the doubt from this point forward concerning this issue. Please note that any sweeping or unilateral changes to articles need to have a community consensus before being implemented. Any suggestions you may have concerning such changes may be discussed in the Talk Page of the article (in this case, the Template) in question. Thank you! —GethralkinHyperwave 00:29, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
Template
Hey, just thought i'd let you know, Geth started a CT thread regarding changes to the template here. Happy editing, Supreme Emperor (talk) 19:05, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for posting that! -Thunderforge (talk) 19:31, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, sorry about that. I was surprised to see the changes made after you initiated a proposal to split them and then posted stands for doing so. I misunderstood your proposal as a call for consensus—as most of such posts are—and so was expecting a debate about it that would continue for a couple of weeks before securing a voted decision. Anyhow, your discussions on the talk page are good counterpoints. I just came back surprised when things started getting done sooner than I expected. Sorry for the misunderstanding. —GethralkinHyperwave 01:07, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
- Please wait for the CT discussion to be closed before making changes. —GethralkinHyperwave 15:29, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
- I mean, regarding the FFGStarWars template. I have made three new ones that we can link the game articles to: FFGSWEotE, FFGSWTCG, FFGSWXW. —GethralkinHyperwave 15:32, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Please wait for the CT discussion to be closed before making changes. —GethralkinHyperwave 15:29, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, sorry about that. I was surprised to see the changes made after you initiated a proposal to split them and then posted stands for doing so. I misunderstood your proposal as a call for consensus—as most of such posts are—and so was expecting a debate about it that would continue for a couple of weeks before securing a voted decision. Anyhow, your discussions on the talk page are good counterpoints. I just came back surprised when things started getting done sooner than I expected. Sorry for the misunderstanding. —GethralkinHyperwave 01:07, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
Inuse template—"Hopefully the repair droids can fix it...."'
Just so you know for future reference, the {{Inuse}} template that displays the green box at the top of an article announcing, "Hopefully the repair droids can fix it. This article is actively undergoing a major edit," means that someone is editing that article and it is discourteous to conduct edits to the one who inserted the template while the template is in place. Use article History to find out who placed the template and then contact that person on their Talk Page to inquire if they are finished with editing. Otherwise, leave the edits to the person who placed the template. Thanks. —GethralkinHyperwave 16:14, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
Moving the GG template
Before renaming or moving an article, please use the article's Talk page to discuss whether or not the Wookieepedia community agrees with the move; otherwise this may trigger edit wars, break article links, or cause other problems. Please keep in mind that Wookieepedia has guidelines to help identify how an article should be named. Thanks! —GethralkinHyperwave 01:46, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Also, just so you understand: a consensus is most definitely needed for moving a template, and (in many cases) an article—especially certain high-profile articles. If you feel the itch to move things around, start a consensus track so you can get the proper permission to do so. "Being bold" is not license enough to do so in most cases. "Being bold" mostly refers to editing articles, not suddenly moving them (or templates) around. —GethralkinHyperwave 04:01, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- You are talking about restructuring the templates and moving them, not about creating your own, which you gave that impression to MJ and Esjs. However, I do not believe that the community will indeed agree with you going in and changing all of the templates without any of them having a say in the matter. It is not up to just me to keep you from editing, and I see now why you suggested that I not bring it up for a consensus. No, this matter will be made public and the community will have a say. As to the matter of the split nav boxes, you will recalll that I also was in agreement even before the CT was made. However, I wanted to be sure it is what the community wanted and not just my own decision. You, however, from your actions and comments, it appears as though you are not interested in what the community wants. It seems that way because you discourage CT discussion and you move templates without announcing your intention to do so to the community. That is why the {{Mp1}} "moving" template (posted above) exists: to let users know that this is not allowed. —GethralkinHyperwave 06:53, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- As I posted on the discussion, I stated that it "seemed" that you were doing this. I suggested that these might be your intentions. I also showed evidence that made me think this way, because your actions up to this point suggested it. There was no communication from you prior to your action, so what am I to think? It certainly looked they way it did. Especially after you wrote to me that I should let you keep editing templates. Am I reading something different here? As to personal attacks, I have made no personal attacks to you. You referenced the policy, but without specifics. The policy actually states that what I am doing, disagreeing with you and stating that you are wrong, is not a personal attack. If anything, I have made "statement regarding the actions of the user, not a statement about the user." —GethralkinHyperwave 08:01, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- By the way, I am not above stating that I am wrong, either. I really wanted to make a combined template work, but there were plenty more reasons why it needed to be split. I also misunderstood some of your previous edits, as well. I think there is simply a lack of communication going on, and that is usually what generates the misunderstandings that begin such disagreements. In this case, the missing element in my understand was your use of IRC. While there is certainly great advice to be gained from our fellow editors that frequent there, those discussions are not available for this community to see. Therefore, CT votes are done on the Forum and not on IRC. Taking action without apparent discussion on the matter really doesn't let anyone here know what you are doing. Then, we only are able to go on what is visible from this end. I appreciate you seeking counsel on the GG template matter, but it would have been smoother if you involved the wiki community in a decision that would affect the wiki community. —GethralkinHyperwave 08:24, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I was drawing conclusions that were based on material that was not complete, and for that, I apologize. However, that is why I have pointed out in answer to you elsewhere that IRC is not the place consensuses are done, because of this very circumstance. Editors that weren't on IRC when you asked and got your answer have no way to track that information as can be done through Talk page history. My intent was to disagree because I see a dangerous precedent that could be set with moving templates without CT and then having to go through CT for a reversion process (YODA: "To a dark place this line of reasoning goes"). So, it is not just moving a template that is the issue, here. In any case, "made public" meant nothing more than making sure Wookieepedia editors are able to have a say, not that this is going to be some sort of expose. I am sorry if I was giving that impression, and I see now that my poor choice of words did. —GethralkinHyperwave 09:06, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe personal attacks was a little extreme, but that's probably how Thunderforge feels. He (or she, don't want to embarrass myself and assume) has said that maybe you should wait and see what the community thinks about this template stuff, so how bout you let it lie for a bit, and let the community decide, which is what you feel thunderforge failed to do (even though they did ask here, and didn't just say "I'm gonna do what I want!"), and which they are clearly trying to do now. All of this was done to improve Wookieepedia, don't take it so personally. Because as it stands right now, it seems like you are harassing them. Actually, seems isn't the right word... Trip391 (talk) 08:21, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Trip, I am pretty sure that I don't need your help. —GethralkinHyperwave 08:26, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Trip is right in that it is how I feel. I did believe that I was properly letting the community decide in order to improve Wikipedia. I believe that Trip was trying to help mediate this situation, and if I were in their shoes, I would feel that your terse reply was uncivil (I hope that wasn't your intention). I believe that we ought to do as Trip and I suggested and take a break from this for several days. -Thunderforge (talk) 08:41, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- With all due respect to Trip, I still don't need his help. Especially when he turns an accusing tone to a participant in a conflict resolution, which is the worst way to attempt mediation. Your suggestion on my talk page about taking a few days on the matter however, is well received, and this (and the response above to your statement) is all I will write on this topic section. —GethralkinHyperwave 09:06, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Trip is right in that it is how I feel. I did believe that I was properly letting the community decide in order to improve Wikipedia. I believe that Trip was trying to help mediate this situation, and if I were in their shoes, I would feel that your terse reply was uncivil (I hope that wasn't your intention). I believe that we ought to do as Trip and I suggested and take a break from this for several days. -Thunderforge (talk) 08:41, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Trip, I am pretty sure that I don't need your help. —GethralkinHyperwave 08:26, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- By the way, I am not above stating that I am wrong, either. I really wanted to make a combined template work, but there were plenty more reasons why it needed to be split. I also misunderstood some of your previous edits, as well. I think there is simply a lack of communication going on, and that is usually what generates the misunderstandings that begin such disagreements. In this case, the missing element in my understand was your use of IRC. While there is certainly great advice to be gained from our fellow editors that frequent there, those discussions are not available for this community to see. Therefore, CT votes are done on the Forum and not on IRC. Taking action without apparent discussion on the matter really doesn't let anyone here know what you are doing. Then, we only are able to go on what is visible from this end. I appreciate you seeking counsel on the GG template matter, but it would have been smoother if you involved the wiki community in a decision that would affect the wiki community. —GethralkinHyperwave 08:24, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- As I posted on the discussion, I stated that it "seemed" that you were doing this. I suggested that these might be your intentions. I also showed evidence that made me think this way, because your actions up to this point suggested it. There was no communication from you prior to your action, so what am I to think? It certainly looked they way it did. Especially after you wrote to me that I should let you keep editing templates. Am I reading something different here? As to personal attacks, I have made no personal attacks to you. You referenced the policy, but without specifics. The policy actually states that what I am doing, disagreeing with you and stating that you are wrong, is not a personal attack. If anything, I have made "statement regarding the actions of the user, not a statement about the user." —GethralkinHyperwave 08:01, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
- You are talking about restructuring the templates and moving them, not about creating your own, which you gave that impression to MJ and Esjs. However, I do not believe that the community will indeed agree with you going in and changing all of the templates without any of them having a say in the matter. It is not up to just me to keep you from editing, and I see now why you suggested that I not bring it up for a consensus. No, this matter will be made public and the community will have a say. As to the matter of the split nav boxes, you will recalll that I also was in agreement even before the CT was made. However, I wanted to be sure it is what the community wanted and not just my own decision. You, however, from your actions and comments, it appears as though you are not interested in what the community wants. It seems that way because you discourage CT discussion and you move templates without announcing your intention to do so to the community. That is why the {{Mp1}} "moving" template (posted above) exists: to let users know that this is not allowed. —GethralkinHyperwave 06:53, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
Questions for clarity
I need to approach you and ask this outright, so pardon my being blunt:
- "I've done my research and asked others on IRC before making changes… Like I said, I went on IRC before changing the name of the Galaxy Guides template in order to ensure that I did have the will of the community."
- ―Your statement that IRC consensus was made to move template
- "The only thing that was "decided" on IRC was whether or not to use a bot to take care of the 19 redirects still set to "GG" after the moving of the page (which is a small number, and most definitely not a "major change"), so Thunderforge fixed them himself. That is all. No "decisions about big major changes", simply what to do with 19 redirects."
- ―Trip391 stating IRC consensus was not made to move template
So, which is true? And who is lying here? Did you or did you not use IRC before changing the name of the template "to ensure that [you] had the will of the community," or is Trip's version of events the truth and you moved the article first, then asked for a bot on IRC and "No 'decisions about big major changes', simply what to do with 19 redirects?" I am interested in what your answer is. —GethralkinHyperwave 08:57, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
IRC
Hey, if you have a chance later tonight, would you mind popping into the IRC briefly? Thanks, Supreme Emperor (talk) 22:03, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
Welcome back
Hey Thunderforge, just wanted to say a quick welcome to project novels, and good to have you back here. Supreme Emperor (talk) 05:48, September 13, 2013 (UTC)
Smoking PSA
I've archived Smoking PSA, so feel free to renom on GAN page. I'll support there. 501st dogma(talk) 01:01, November 19, 2013 (UTC)