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The result of the debate was delete. (remaining redlinks still accessible from this page) —Silly Dan (talk) 00:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
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List of starships (talk - history - links - logs)
In keeping with the purging of lists in favor of categories, let's look at the List of starships. Same comments as other lists, really, but this list in particular seems to be badly out of date as far as class names for types of ships etc. DolukTalk 20:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Delete
- Per above. DolukTalk 20:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed. We already have categories for most, if not all, of these, and if we don't, we can create them. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:14, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Keeping it around for the redlinks is a good idea, true, but they're probably linked elsewhere as well. List purge is therefore of higher priority.--Goodwood
(Alliance Intelligence) 22:52, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 00:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- How many lists about the same stuff do we even need? Zero, in my opinion. VT-16 17:13, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- Check those redlinks again. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 17:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- --Darth tom
(Imperial Intelligence) 17:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 17:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- This page has always bothered me simply because it has a status. The Millennium Falcon is operational under Han Solo as of WHEN? Haven't seen it in Legacy, and he's probably dead by then, and all pages are supposed to be in past tense. Not that I need to try to sway any voters with my logic at this point. But I feel like this is just one more valuable justification for deletion for this particular page that outweighs the (unsourced) redlinks. Wildyoda 21:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- Wildyoda has swayed me, whether he intended to or not. ;-) The only reason I was hesitant was that the list has a bit more information than a category, but as he points out, that information is essentially useless. jSarek 23:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- I can be very persuasive. Waves hand "This is the voting option you're looking for." Wildyoda 04:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
- Great job, Culator! Mauser 04:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
- Cavalier One
(Squadron channel) 09:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
- Wipe this atrocity off the wiki. Atarumaster88
(Talk page) 22:44, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- JMAS Hey, it's me! 04:31, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Green Tentacle (Talk) 14:11, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Keep
At least for as long as the redlinks are being checked. Mauser 22:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)- You're certainly entitled to vote how you please, but I think we kind of decided here that unsourced redlinks are not a good enough reason to keep a list page. I encourage you to create a list of redlinks in the Comments section below per that TC, so at least the redlinks can be maintained someplace. Other than that, I think the list page should go as the other did. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:06, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Okay, here's the redlinks:
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Darkstar (Empire, status unknown)
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Dominance (Empire, destroyed)
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Harpox (Empire, status unknown)
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Havoc (Imperial-class) (Empire, destroyed) (Deleted as fanon. Twice)
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Impending Doom (Empire, status unknown)
Imperial-class Star Destroyer Invincible I (Empire, destroyed)Imperial-class Star Destroyer Invincible II (Empire, status unknown)Imperial-class Star Destroyer Invincible III (Empire, destroyed)Imperial-class Star Destroyer Kreiger (Empire, status unknown)Imperial-class Star Destroyer Legacy (Star Destroyer) (Empire, status unknown)- Legacy (Imperial-class)
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Malignant (Empire, status unknown)
Imperial-class Star Destroyer Prentioch (Star Destroyer) (Empire, heavily damaged, status unknown)- Prentioch (ship)
Imperial-class Star Destroyer Redoubtable I (Empire, destroyed)Imperial-class Star Destroyer Redoubtable II (Empire, taken over by Yevetha, destroyed)- Redoubtable, both most likely the same ship. All these Roman numeraled entries are crap.
Imperial-class Star Destroyer Relentless I (Empire, status unknown)Imperial-class Star Destroyer Relentless II (Empire, conscripted into Galactic Alliance, operational)Imperial-class Star Destroyer Reyna (Star Destroyer) (Empire, status unknown)Imperial-class Star Destroyer Riesa (Star Destroyer) (Empire, status unknown)Imperial-class Star Destroyer Stalker I (Empire, status unknown)Imperial-class Star Destroyer Stalker II (Empire, destroyed)Imperial-class Star Destroyer Striker (Star Destroyer) (Empire, status unknown)- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Ultima (Empire, status unknown)
Imperial-class Star Destroyer Vaccilator (Empire, status unknown)- Fanon. See here. The listed source is a fanfic, and this is the only reference I can find to this ship.
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Valor (Empire, status unknown)
Imperial-class Star Destroyer Vengeance I (Empire, destroyed)Imperial-class Star Destroyer Vengeance III (Empire, status unknown)- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Victrix (Empire, status unknown)
- Venator-class Star Destroyer Monitor (Venator-class) (Old Republic, status unknown) (A number of pages links to it, apparently it was the Venator, which was seen on the surface of Kashyyyk in ROTS, but it was deleted 3 times as unverified)
Victory-class Star Destroyer Hunter (Victory-class Star Destroyer) (Empire, status unknown)- Victory-class Star Destroyer Rampant (Empire, status unknown) (A generic ship name from EAW)
Victory-class Star Destroyer Tempest (Victory-class Star Destroyer) (Empire, status unknown)- Victory-class Star Destroyer Wachtor (Empire, status unknown) (A generic ship name from EAW)
Victory-class Star Destroyer Warlord (Victory-class Star Destroyer) (Empire, status unknown)Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser Mas Remedar (Old Republic, heavily damaged, status unknown)Acclamator-class assault ship Acclamator (Acclamator-class cruiser) (Old Republic, Empire, status unknown)- Fanon assumption.
Strike-class medium cruiser Indomitable (Empire, status unknown) (The link in the list is broken)- Indomitable (Strike cruiser)
Strike-class medium cruiser Strike (Empire, status unknown)- Fanon assumption.
Carrack-class light cruiser Carrack (Carrack cruiser) (Empire, status unknown)- Fanon assumption.
Carrack-class light cruiser Indomitable (Galactic Republic, heavily damaged, status unknown) (The link in the list is broken)Tartan-class patrol cruiser Tartan (Tartan-class cruiser) (Empire, status unknown)- Fanon assumption.
Defender-class Star Destroyer Defender (Defender Star Destroyer) (New Republic, status unknown)- Fanon assumption.
Nebula-class Star Destroyer Nebula (Nebula Star Destroyer) (New Republic, status unknown)- Fanon assumption.
Republic-class Star Destroyer Republic (Republic Star Destroyer) (New Republic, status unknown)- Fanon assumption.
- Mon Calamari Star Cruiser Crucible (MC80 Star Cruiser) (New Republic, status unknown)
Mon Calamari Star Cruiser Ludtze (Rebellion, status unknown)Mon Calamari Star Cruiser Stemsenj'kat (Rebellion, status unknown)MC40a light cruiser Odessyuss (Rebellion, destroyed)- Nebulon-B Frigate Chancellor (frigate) (New Republic, status unknown)
- Nebulon-B Frigate Haser I (Empire, status unknown)
- Nebulon-B Frigate Haser II (Empire, status unknown)
Nebulon-B Frigate Interceptor (frigate) (Empire, status unknown)Nebulon-B Frigate Lightning (frigate) (New Republic, status unknown)Nebulon-B Frigate Merciless (frigate) (Empire, status unknown)Nebulon-B Frigate Rapier (frigate) (Empire, status unknown)- Rapier (Frigate)
Corellian Corvette Freedom’s Messenger (New Republic, status unknown)- FarStar (there's a redirect without the Microsoft Apostrophe™)
Corellian Corvette Rancor’s Tooth (New Republic, status unknown)- Rancor's Tooth (again with the Microsoft Punctuation™)
Corellian Corvette Raze (Corvette) (New Republic, status unknown)- Raze (corvette) (superfluous caps)
Corellian Corvette Swift (Corvette) (New Republic, status unknown)- Swift (corvette) (ditto)
- Corellian Gunship Orion (Gunship) (New Republic, status unknown)
- Corellian Gunship Thher (Gunship) (New Republic, status unknown)
Princess Diadem (Independent: Talon Karrde, status unknown)- Empress's Diadem, undoubtedly.
- A little too many, don't you think? Mauser 23:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Not necessarily. If they were sourced, I'd be inclined to give them a little more credence. Like I said in the previous TC, keeping something because it might be canon is not so good. Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- It's nice to keep the redlinked ones and search for their sources, but some of those names sound like fanon that got put onto the list. Even more reason to drop the page, imo. VT-16 17:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
- So... yeah. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 17:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Remaining potentially legitimate redlinks
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Darkstar (Empire, status unknown)
- X-wing. [1]
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Dominance (Empire, destroyed)
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Harpox (Empire, status unknown)
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Havoc (Imperial-class) (Empire, destroyed) (Deleted as fanon. Twice)
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Impending Doom (Empire, status unknown)
- The Abduction [8]
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Malignant (Empire, status unknown)
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Ultima (Empire, status unknown)
- Graveyard of Alderaan [11]
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Valor (Empire, status unknown)
- Imperial-class Star Destroyer Victrix (Empire, status unknown)
- Nebulon-B Frigate Haser I/Haser II (Empire, status unknown)
- Fails Google and CUSWE checks
- Venator-class Star Destroyer Monitor (Venator-class) (Old Republic, status unknown)
- A number of pages links to it, apparently it was the Venator, which was seen on the surface of Kashyyyk in ROTS, but it was deleted 3 times as unverified
Victory-class Star Destroyer Rampant (Empire, status unknown)- A generic ship name from EAW
Victory-class Star Destroyer Wachtor (Empire, status unknown)- A generic ship name from EAW
- Mon Calamari Star Cruiser Crucible (MC80 Star Cruiser) (New Republic, status unknown)
- X-wing Vs. TIE Fighter. [16]
- Linked elsewhere as Crucible (MC80 Liberty type Star Cruiser), so create here for consistency.
Nebulon-B Frigate Chancellor (frigate) (New Republic, status unknown)Fails Google and CUSWE checks- Generic name from EAW; brief reference in Galaxy Guide 3: The Empire Strikes Back (2nd edition, page 27)
- Corellian Gunship Orion (Gunship) (New Republic, status unknown)
Fails Google and CUSWE checks- Generic name from EAW. Should be lowercase class when created (Orion (gunship))
- Corellian Gunship Thher (Gunship) (New Republic, status unknown)
Fails Google and CUSWE checks- Possible typo of Thrasher (gunship), a generic name from EAW.