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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or, if the page was deleted, in the Senate Hall rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Delete. Imperators II(Talk) 08:56, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Lilith (talk - history - links - logs - delete - protect)

I don't see anything notable about this character other than it being an unlicensed Lucasfilm character.Elijah Palmer(talk) 21:52, 2 November 2023 (EST)

Delete

Keep

  1. Elijah, I'm going to say from an administrator perspective, please stop creating TCs until you better understand our policies. A named character is inherently notable. Whether or not we should document the unlicensed sources is something to be discussed on a larger scale, but we will not be deleting individual articles from an unlicensed source. Please do not create any further spurious TCs. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 02:01, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  2. Lewisr (talk) 02:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  3. Eh, we have hundreds of articles from unlicensed sources. While a discussion could be made on unlicensed properties as a whole, per current precedent I don't see why we should delete a named character. Rsand 30 (talk) 02:03, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  4. TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders Anıl Şerifoğlu (talk) 02:04, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  5. Bonzane10 Sabine Starbird (holonet) 02:06, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  6. A named character is absolutely notable, per our own policies. Please familiarize yourself with our notability policies before making more TC's like this. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 02:30, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  7. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 03:00, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  8. JMAS Jolly Trooper Hey, it's me! 03:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  9. Master FredceriqueCommerce Guild(talk) (he/him) 04:57, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  10. Fan26 (Talk) 07:41, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  11. It would indeed be beneficial to first check with the community, either on-site or on the Discord server, as to the validity of a case like this where maybe you're not 100% sure what's accepted practice and what isn't. As for the source of the subject being unlicensed, per what Rsand said. Imperators II(Talk) 08:46, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  12. I think we should document unlicensed articles, some canon articles originate in unlicensed Legends sources ie M-300 hunting blaster. Also, per Imp and Cade on holding off on the TCs.ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 11:58, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  13. Per Imperators OOM 224 (he/him) 12:26, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  14. Chipchip88 (talk) 14:11, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  15. —spookywillowwtalk 17:05, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
  16. Jarhead002 (talk) (he/him) 22:07, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
  17. If you want to make the case that the character is non-notable because she comes from unlicensed material, that's a much bigger discussion, as others have said. But she is clearly notable within the unlicensed story in which she appears. Asithol (talk) 18:22, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Comments

  • Just want to note for the record that our Notability policy doesn't actually cover general characters and doesn't say anything about named characters being inherently notable. What that bit is is instead a long-established case of article precedent. Imperators II(Talk) 08:46, 3 November 2023 (UTC)