Forum:CT:Updating WP:Sourcing Exceptions

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The result of the debate was Support Votes 1-3. —spookywillowwtalk 15:43, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Following up on Forum:SH:Credits sourcing, we've got several additions to the Wookieepedia:Sourcing policy's Exceptions list in the when-to-use-references section.

Vote 1: Uncredited

Amending the Appearances/Credits bullet point to the following:

  • Appearances: The content of the {{App}} template used in articles on Star Wars media does not need to be referenced after the release of said media.
  • Credits: With the exception of the the uncreditedcast and uncreditedcrew fields, the content of the {{Credits}} template used in articles on Star Wars media does not need to be referenced after the release of said media. The uncredited cast and crew must be sourced, as their information cannot be sourced directly to the original work.

Support

  1. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 03:48, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  2. For this one esp, not much can do about the hard-ref limit as defined by MW. Which we hit on most film pages if we reference them, so...—spookywillowwtalk 03:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  3. CometSmudge (talk) 03:53, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  4. Rsand 30 (talk) 04:05, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  5. Lewisr (talk) 04:11, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  6. Yasen Nestorov (talk) 05:26, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  7. OOM 224 09:07, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:55, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  9. 01miki10 Open comlink 10:09, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  10. Bonzane10 Bonzane10-Sig 13:51, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  11. Imperators II(Talk) 15:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  12. ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 19:34, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  13. Darth Soda CIS roundel (Talk) 04:44, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
  14. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 14:52, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
  15. ThePedantry (talk) 19:04, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose

Vote 2: Auto-generated fields

Adding the following bullet after the ISBN point:

  • Auto-generated infobox fields: Infobox fields that are automatically generated by the infobox, such as the next and prev fields for magazines and comics, do not need to be manually added in the article unless the actual value differs from the calculated value, and thus do not need to be referenced. However, this does not apply to infobox values that do not have corresponding fields, such as the chronological eras and dating system values in {{Year}}.

Support

  1. As creators of these fields; thanks to Soda for suggesting them. Left it open-ended to allow for any future fields that we may decide to add. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 03:48, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  2. —spookywillowwtalk 03:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  3. CometSmudge (talk) 03:53, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  4. Rsand 30 (talk) 04:05, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  5. Lewisr (talk) 04:11, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  6. Yasen Nestorov (talk) 05:26, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  7. OOM 224 09:07, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:55, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  9. 01miki10 Open comlink 10:09, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  10. Imperators II(Talk) 15:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  11. ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 19:34, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  12. Darth Soda CIS roundel (Talk) 04:44, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
  13. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 14:52, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
  14. ThePedantry (talk) 19:04, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose

Vote 3: Contents sections

Adding the following bullet after the Excerpts point:

  • Contents section on media collection articles: As established by the Layout Guide, the Contents section on articles on media that collects other Star Wars material, such as magazines and comic collections, should list the collected works, and does not need to be referenced.

Support

  1. Little wordy, but necessary, as these kind of things are self-sourcing just like the Appearances and Credits sections. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 03:48, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  2. —spookywillowwtalk 03:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  3. CometSmudge (talk) 03:53, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  4. Rsand 30 (talk) 04:05, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  5. Lewisr (talk) 04:11, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  6. Yasen Nestorov (talk) 05:26, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  7. OOM 224 09:07, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  8. Ayrehead02 (talk) 09:55, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  9. 01miki10 Open comlink 10:09, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  10. Imperators II(Talk) 15:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  11. ThrawnChiss7 Mitth symbol Assembly Cupola 19:34, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
  12. Darth Soda CIS roundel (Talk) 04:44, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
  13. Tommy-Macaroni (he/they) 14:52, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
  14. ThePedantry (talk) 19:04, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Oppose

Discuss