Forum:CT:Repeal outdated WP:EQUAL

Forums > Consensus track archive > CT:Repeal outdated WP:EQUAL
This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made in the Senate Hall or new Consensus Track pages rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record.
The result of the debate was support proposal. Tommy-Macaroni 18:28, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

This proposal is to repeal Wookieepedia:Equality in its entirety. The text of that policy is:

While Wookieepedia recognizes and accepts the special needs of certain individuals, those individuals cannot be considered exempt from the standards of conduct that all Wookieepedians must abide by.
No physical or mental condition shall be considered cause to suspend the enforcement of any Wookieepedia policy or guideline, including the blocking policy.
See also

The misleadingly-named "Equality" policy uses outdated terminology and presumes people with disabilities are likely to violate Wookieepedia policies and claim an exemption from them. We don't have a policy for any other characteristic to say it does not create an exemption from standards of conduct. WP:EQUAL gives the impression that people with disabilities are regarded as potential problems instead of welcomed as contributors; as such, it discourages joining Wookieepedia.

WP:EQUAL was introduced in 2007 by someone who is now permanently blocked Fandom-wide and had a history of using slurs pertaining to learning and intellectual disabilities. The policy received a total of 10 support votes (the proposer plus 9 others), with none opposed.

Support

  1. Immi Thrax RainbowRebellion2 (talk) 04:34, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  2. Not really sure what the point of that was. Stake black msg 04:37, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  3. As someone with a developmental disability, I'm definitely going to be supporting this. Erebus Chronus (Talk) 04:41, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  4. Supreme Emperor Holocomm 04:42, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  5. Jedi Sarith LeKit (talk) 04:42, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  6. The “othering” in play is bad and should be repealed. Beyond that, I don’t understand why there would be a policy that says “X group is not exempt from policy” to begin with. — YakovChaimTzvi ChissAscendancyCanonSymbol (talk) 04:43, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  7. SilverSunbird (talk) 04:44, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  8. JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 04:44, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  9. LucaRoR CIS roundel (Talk) 04:53, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  10. Per Yakov. No reason to assume that we would ever need to argue with someone that policy applies equally to everyone, when it clearly does. VergenceScatter (talk) 04:54, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  11. Cade GalacticRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 04:59, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  12. Wow, what in the world. Although it's called WP:EQUAL it certainly lays its foundations in ableism. --Vitus InfinitusTalk 05:06, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  13. This was definitely created as an emotional reaction to either a perceived danger or a specific situation, and emotional reactions don't make good policy. Obviously everyone will be treated equally under policy, and users with disabilities are no more likely to breach policy than anyone else. This simply does not fit with our new culture and needs to go. MasterFredCommerce Guild(talk) 05:07, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  14. Jade Moonstroller (talk) 05:36, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  15. Manoof (he/him/his) (talk) 06:40, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  16. Had this on my list of things to sort out for a while, glad to see it going! Ayrehead02 (talk) 07:17, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  17. DarthRuiz30 (talk) 07:18, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  18. What a weird little redundant thing. Imperators II(Talk) 07:51, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  19. Our site culture is, thankfully, changing for the better. Getting rid of relics like this is another step in that change. Zed42 (talk) 08:25, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  20. RattsT (talk) 09:02, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  21. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 09:46, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  22. DFaceG (talk) 10:04, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  23. Tommy-Macaroni 10:11, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  24. Ramsay Sanders (talk) 10:18, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  25. NBDani (talk) 10:54, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  26. Loqiical (talk) 11:06, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  27. Per Fred and Imp. No one is exempt from policy no matter there personal circumstances, but singling out particular groups as not exempt is a shitty thing to do and creates the appearance of discrimination enshrined in policy. Fan26 (Talk) 12:50, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  28. Lewisr (talk) 13:17, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  29. IFYLOFD (Talk) 13:22, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  30. 01miki10 Open comlink 13:46, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  31. Braha'tok enthusiast Hello there 15:02, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  32. Per Fred OOM 224 16:50, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  33. Jedi Order ImpacticForce (Talk) 16:52, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  34. yep, lets just remove this, nothing more to add Editoronthewiki (talk) 17:06, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  35. Wok142 (talk) 17:14, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  36. Jedimca0(Do or Do Not, There is No Try) 17:30, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  37. 1358 (Talk) 18:12, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
  38. Commander Code-8 Hello There! 05:21, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Oppose

Discussion