Wookieepedia:Requests for user rights/RFB archive/Jaymach

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The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a request for bureaucratship that was unsuccessful. Please do not modify it.

Jaymach (8 users + 8 admins + 1 bureaucrat/1 user + 3 admins + 2 bureaucrat/3 users)

Two week deadline from first request, voting ends 12/23/2006 00:47 UTC.

Support

  1. It has been discussed on the Mofference that we'll be recruiting a total of 5 bureaucrats for now, and I'd like to propose two IRC regulars, who have demonstrated organizatorial skills in the past and have been a pleasure to work with. Sikon 00:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  2.  G.He(Talk!) 00:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  3. ...just so I can get Culator's vote...POWAAAHHH!!! UN-LIM-I-TED POWWWWAAAHHH!!!...but really? Thanks. :) Not honestly too sure what I'd do with the status, but at least then I could feel all official when I pay for skins to be made for this site (eventually, sorry it's taking so long). —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 00:47, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
    Is this counted as a legitimate vote, Jay? -- Riffsyphon1024 00:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
    No idea...I just did it to make sure everyone know I accepted...feel free not to count it in the tally. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 00:54, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
    I've always considered the candidate's acceptance to count as one vote in their favor. -- Darth Culator (Talk)(Kills) 01:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  4. Yoshi626 00:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  5. Darth Culator (Talk)(Kills) 00:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  6. Havac 01:22, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  7. Only if I can choose when to be his translating slave/servant —Xwing328(Talk) 03:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  8. For. Fnlayson 21:05, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  9. Definitely. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) Imperial Emblem 21:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  10. —Silly Dan (talk) 21:38, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  11. - breathesgelatinTalk 21:43, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  12. Yeah KEJ 21:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  13. Kuralyov 21:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
    Imp 22:05, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  14. SFH 00:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  15. Cull Tremayne 00:13, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  16. Chack Jadson 21:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  17. --Eyrezer 10:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Per Aziz down below. --Imp 23:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
  2. For the same reasons I stated for Darth Culator below. Sorry. --Azizlight 00:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  3. Nothing personal. I just don't think that we currently need more bureaucrats.–SentryTalk 00:03, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  4. Agree with Sentry. Jasca Ducato Sith Council Sith Campaign 21:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  5. Doh...late. I thought I'd already voted when I voted on DC. I'm not sure we need more bureaucrats. WhiteBoy 18:23, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
  6. Agreeing with Chad. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:01, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  7. Per above. Chack Jadson 13:39, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Neutral

  1. Lord OblivionSith holocronSith Emblem 23:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  2. For now. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Audience Chamber) 04:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  3. For the moment. If we're only having two more then I don't think we should all just vote for the first two admins to be nominated. Green Tentacle (Talk) 16:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Optional candidate Q&A

  • S1 How do you see the difference between an admin and a bureaucrat?

It's more of a figurehead position, as well as being given somewhat more responsiblity at the moment. Although the admins are usually seen as the face of the site (though we shouldn't be as, due to the Wiki's nature, all of our users truly are), the bureaucrats are generally seen as the owners. Now, while this is not necessarily the case, I can certainly see why outsiders and even some users might think so. Due to this, it makes it even more necessary to show a professional face and to try not to let personal feelings/matters affect a bureaucrat's responsibilities. As for an issue of power, I feel there's truly very little difference...bureaucrat's only gain the power to promote other admins/bureaucrats, and don't even have the power to take that status away. As per below, however, bureaucrat's may later gain more actual power.

  • S2 What will you use your new status for if your nomination succeeds?

Not too much, to be quite frank...if I feel it's needed, I'll veto votes...it will also help me both feel and seem more official when I try to pay for skinners to design new skins for the Wookieepedia. Obviously, if/when new admins have been voted in, I'll upgrade them from regular peon...err...Wookieepedian :) status. As per above/below, I may also start using the status to try to make myself look more professional, as I'm sure there are certain times where that is not the case at the moment, though I can't think of any at the moment.

  • S3 How many admins do you think we need?

Hmm...a tough question really...I don't particularly want to put any specific number cap on it...I also don't feel, however, that all users should be upgraded to admin status when they've been on the site for so long or done so many good edits...sometimes people can be great editors, but terrible in terms of people skills, and so they would not be elligable. Really, the number varies as we grow and as the vandalism comes...if we had more vandalism, we may need more admins...also, if admins disappeared slowly due to real life constraints, then we may need to promote new admins to act in their stead. If I was going to put any solid number on it at the moment, I'd say 24...but I really don't want to do that, as it's entirely possible that we may need more or other people may prove themselves to be fitting for the role.

  • S4 How many bureaucrats do you think we need?

Hmm...tough question, really...at the current time, I don't feel we need too many...at the moment all they can really do is veto votes (which is both a good and a bad thing), and promote other admins. At a later time, when/if Wikia decides to implement them being able to turn on/off certain features, it may be handy to have a few more...at the current time, I'm tempted to agree with the number suggested in the IRC room of 5, maybe 6.

  • S5 How often do you think bureaucrats should use their veto power on RFA?

Honestly? Whenever it's needed...I'm not saying we should be told to use them as soon as we reach XX amount of admins...but if people raise particularly good points about why a Wookieepedian is not elligable for adminship, then I believe it should be used. <joke> Also, if the cabal decides it, of course :) </joke> Certainly it shouldn't be used when it's simply a personal matter, and if I get the position then I'll have to be more vigilant to ensure that I don't veto votes purely because I have a personal bias against any Wookieepedian. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 01:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

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