Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting 47

Happy New Year, etc, now back to business: Inqmoot 47 is scheduled for midnight UTC on 29 January. I am keeping the same time as last meeting.

Agenda

Probed articles

• Oss Wilum - diff
• Sate Pestage - diff
• Military Creation Act - diff
• Rango Tel - diff
• Destruction of Taris - diff
  • This should be all set. Let me know if it needs something else. — Fiolli; 02:13, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
    • Good to see you editing again, Fiolli. Since I would say this article safely qualifies as a battle article, the sectioning should be updated to match the LG's battle style; i.e., not putting everything under one "History" section and updating section titles. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:39, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
      • I was bored, so I took care of this. The LG does say that the "battle" section can be renamed if warranted, so I've left it as "Orbital bombardment", since from a IU perspective that's probably far more notable than Revan's actions, and there wasn't a full-scale battle. —MJ— (Holocomm) Monday, January 23, 2012, 22:14 UTC
• Form IV: Ataru - diff
• Darth Caedus - diff
• Oppo Rancisis - diff
• Darth Bane - diff
• Ibtisam - diff
• Jaina Solo - diff

Articles that had their probation extended until next meeting

• CC-1119
• CC-1138

New articles

Add to as needed.

• Garik Loran. It's on the RFAN page right now, but we can vote to remove it at the meeting. Here are my beefs:
  • 2007-level of detail in the Yuuzhan Vong War section. A single sentence covering The Unifying Force isn't enough. A lot of missing context in this section and throughout the entire article to boot.
  • Article alternates between "Face" and "Loran," should probably pick one. A lot of first names are used for other characters throughout.
  • CSWE hasn't been checked for info or added to the sources section.
  • Needs a copy-edit and quite a bit of expansion. Intro and P&T could use a lot of beefing. Menkooroo 04:21, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, as a result of some new info courtesy of Leland Chee, some featured articles need to be updated. See Forum:SH:More Mos Eisley Madness. I believe the FA's in question are just Solomahal and Mosep Binneed. Additionally, now that Mosep is confirmed to be in Return of the Jedi, he could potentially appear in adaptations too. Hanzo Hasashi 18:21, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
• Shoaneb Culu - latest edit requires sourcing plus probably cleanup. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:13, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
• Bevel Lemelisk - Recent edit requires heavy cleanup at the very least. I wouldn't be opposed to outright reversion based on absolutist interpretation and assertion of material. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:09, January 19, 2012 (UTC)
  • I've undone the edit. There was never really an inconsistency to be cleared up regarding Lemelisk --- canon still credits him as the designer of the Death Star's final product, and the contributions of Dooku and Sienar don't change that. There was some Death Star-related retconning done by the novel Death Star, but none of it concerned Lemelisk, as his canon was still OK. Menkooroo 03:42, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

• Orrimaarko- this slipped my mind. Needs an update from The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook. He isn't mentioned specifically AFAIK, but there is some relevant info that I think pertains to all the strike team, and others shared my views. The Rebellion Era Sourcebook also has relevant info. If needed, I can give the info to somebody. Hanzo Hasashi 05:15, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
• Adas - This edit shows that an update is required. I'm not sure how much of an update or what the whole thing would be with that, but I think it's worth checking into at the very least.—Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 21:36, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
  • I removed the update tag, as Book of Sith isn't scheduled to be released until February 10th. Menkooroo 02:34, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion stuff

1. An important note to all Inquisitors: When archiving a successful FAN and adding it to the FA queue, remember to add {{FAlink}} below {{Rm}} on the article's queue entry. FAs aren't on the main page daily anymore, so {{FAlink}} is a recent addition to the FA Queue Checklist --- it's very important that we all get into the habit of adding it every time. Several recent entries on the FA queue did not include {{FAlink}}, which means that there were some FAs which were only featured on the main page for a half week instead of an entire week. We need to make sure this doesn't happen again. Menkooroo 01:47, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
2. Though this might be a sofixit, quite frankly I was just bothered by the amount of pre-2008 featured articles I've seen with articles linked in the intro, then not again in the body. I discussed this on the talk page, and mentioned Sate Pestage and BoShek as two atrocious cases I fixed myself. I think it would be good if all of those underlinking problems were fixed. Hanzo Hasashi 05:28, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Attendance

Yes

1. Tentatively. CC7567 ^(talk) 22:42, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

   Looks good as of right now. As always, I'll leave notes if that changes. Jonjedigrandmaster ^(Talk) 22:49, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

2. Good work! A nice-looking article. Keep 'em coming. Menkooroo 01:49, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
3. Toprawa and Ralltiir 02:08, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
4. 1358 ^(Talk) 10:38, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

   Looks good for now. IFYLOFD ^{(Floyd's crib)} 01:59, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

No

1. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 02:15, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
2. Gonna be in the greatest town in the world, Cooperstown, New York. IFYLOFD ^{(Floyd's crib)} 01:18, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
3. Saturday night, alcohol, etc. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 17:17, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
4. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 17:24, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
5. Sorry, something came up last minute. Jonjedigrandmaster ^(Talk) 22:48, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Inabsentia votes and notes

Floyd:

• Keep: Destruction of Taris, Ataru, Darth Caedus, Oppo Rancisis, Ibtisam, Jaina Solo, CC-1119, CC-1138
• Probe: Garik Loran, Solomahal, Mosep Binneed, Shoaneb Culu, Bevel Lemelisk
• Kill: Oss Wilum, Sate Pestage, Military Creation Act, Rango Tel, Darth Bane
• IFYLOFD ^{(Floyd's crib)} 01:18, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Green Tentacle

• Keep: Rango Tel, Destruction of Taris, Darth Caedus, Ibtisam, Jaina Solo, CC-1119, CC-1138
• Extend: Form IV: Ataru (Update has been done, but the RFAN objections haven't been fixed yet. Wasn't actually marked as on probation so it wasn't clear anything else was needed.)
• Kill: Oss Wilum, Sate Pestage, Military Creation Act, Darth Bane
• Probe: Garik Loran, Solomahal, Mosep Binneed, Shoaneb Culu (infobox sourcing), Orrimaarko
• Spare: Bevel Lemelisk, Adas
• Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 17:17, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Grunny

• Kill: Oss Wilum, Sate Pestage, Military Creation Act
• Can a TCW person look at what needs updating in Darth Bane? It seems a waste to kill it based on what I'd guess would be very minor
• Extend: Form IV: Ataru
• Keep: Destruction of Taris, Darth Caedus, Oppo Rancisis, Ibtisam, Jaina Solo, CC-1119, CC-1138, Rango Tel
• Probe: Garik Loran, Solomahal, Mosep Binneed, Shoaneb Culu, Orrimaarko
• Spare: Bevel Lemelisk, Adas
• grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 17:24, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Jujiggum

• Kill: Oss Wilum, Sate Pestage, Military Creation Act
• Keep: Rango Tel, Destruction of Taris, Darth Caedus, Oppo Rancisis, Ibtisam, Jaina Solo, CC-1138
• Extend: Form IV: Ataru
• Darth Bane: Per Grunny: I'd hate to see an article lose it's status over something that's probably very minor
• Redux: CC-1119 (lots of new added material, and it more than meets the 5,000 byte threshold for additions for articles to be sent to redux)
• Probe: Garik Loran (vote to remove from RFAN & probe), Solomahal, Mosep Binneed, Shoaneb Culu, Orrimaarko
• Spare: Bevel Lemelisk, Adas
• Jonjedigrandmaster ^(Talk) 22:48, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Minutes

• Log

Attendance

• Cavalier One
• CC7567
• Darth Culator
• Eyrezer
• Menkooroo
• Toprawa and Ralltiir
• Xd1358

Old articles

Probed articles that maintained their FA status

• Rango Tel
• Destruction of Taris
• Darth Caedus
• Oppo Rancisis
• Ibtisam
• Jaina Solo
• CC-1119
• CC-1138

Probed articles that lost their FA status

• Oss Wilum
• Sate Pestage

Articles that had their probation extended until next meeting

• Military Creation Act
• Form IV: Ataru
• Darth Bane

New articles

Probed

• Garik Loran
• Solomahal
• Mosep Binneed
• Orrimaarko
• Armand Isard

Spared

• Shoaneb Culu
• Bevel Lemelisk
• Adas
• Daultay Dofine
• Raid on the Sith Embassy

Other stuff

• Size difference for articles sent to redux increased from 5,000 bytes to 10,000 bytes.
• Green Tentacle is on paperwork. CC7567 will schedule the next meeting.