Wookieepedia:Inq/Meeting 105

The 105th meeting of the Dark Lords of the Inquisitorius is taking place on Saturday July 20, at 2 PM ET / 6 PM UTC. Please leave notes if you cannot attend.

Agenda

Old things

• Kam Nale (diff • review)
• Duel in the Korriban Academy (diff • review)
• Niai Fieso (diff • review)
• Sirak (diff • review)
• Dannl Faytonni/Legends (diff • review)
• Janus Greejatus/Legends (diff • review)
• Faro Argyus (diff • review)
• Decimator (war machine) (diff • review)
• BesGas Three (diff • review)
• Aarrba (diff • review)

New things

• Odile Vaiken
  • I really don't understand the rationale for the dating in references 2 and 8, specifically how BTC translates to BBY/ABY. What is this "simple math"? And let's replace "simple math" with more formal writing, please.
  • All of the Timelines in the Appearances and referencing should utilize the TOR citation template.
  • Infobox-exclusive information.
  • Certainly could use an Equipment section.
  • I'd like to see the first section of the Biography actually be given a subsection title.
  • The third Bio image should be re-formatted to fit better within that subsection. Currently it's placed right in the middle of the "Legacy" title, causing it and the quote to be awkwardly indented. Probably a relic of Monobook.
  • Going along with the previous objection, breaking up the first "Legacy" paragraph into two will help that image fit better.
  • Redlinks and redirects.
  • BTS is unsourced.
  • Authors and publication dates would be nice in the BTS, if available.
  • I feel like the BTS would probably benefit from a brief explanation of what his mention is in Galaxy of Heroes, considering that thing kind of straddles the Canon-Legends fence.
  • Missing archive links. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:00, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
• Battle of Kessel (0 ABY)
  • Reference 2 doesn't comprehensively explain how this battle can be pinpointed to 0.5 ABY, as it doesn't give any indication for how far after the Yavin evacuation this battle takes place. Just because it happens after the evacuation doesn't automatically place it in the 0.5–1 ABY range, for example. How do we know this battle doesn't take place in early 1 ABY?
  • Bio image doesn't need to be placed that high in that section. It would look better more towards the middle, and that section's first paragraph may look better broken up into two. This is probably all a relic of Monobook.
  • BTS is unsourced. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:00, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
• Braha'tok-class gunship/Legends
  • Article should be checked thoroughly for underlinking or incomplete linking. For example, the article links to "concussion missile launcher," when we have an article for concussion missile launcher.
  • The History would certainly benefit from being divided up into two or more subsections.
  • None of the ABY dates are referenced correctly
  • StarWars.com Databank entry needs to be formatted correctly
  • In the Appearances and Sources, the ROTJ PhotoComic needs to be formatted correctly, and the Starships & Vehicles issue needs to specify an entry, same as we do for Fact Files
  • I think reference 2 infringes unnecessary far into original research. The DB says the vessel is 90 meters long. Just present what we know. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:00, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
• First Duel in the Iron Citadel
  • For starters, the intro is humongous. I'm sure it probably looked better in Monobook, but the article needs to take the narrower margins of Oasis into consideration when writing the intro and how it looks with respect to the infobox. I'd estimate the intro should be cut by about 40-50%.
  • The intro needs to be rewritten to avoid referring to this duel by a proper noun, since its name is conjectural.
  • Digitize all comic images.
  • None of the BBY dates are referenced correctly.
  • General underlinking throughout
  • No need to use bullet points on single items in the infobox
  • BTS is unsourced. Additional things like publication dates and artist information would be nice.
  • Format StarWars.com Databank entry correctly
  • Format reference 5 correctly. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:00, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
• Raid on the Iziz Royal Palace
  • Intro should be rewritten to avoid referring to the battle by its conjectural name. For example, "A raid took place on the Iziz Royal Palace...etc."
  • BBY dates are not referenced correctly
  • Infobox bullet point usage needs to be cleaned up
  • The intro is just way too massive. It probably doesn't need to be larger than two paragraphs.
  • Digitize all comic images
  • Infobox should avoid use of "Unidentified," which is OOU nomenclature
  • Paragraph breaks would be nice in "The raid" and "Aftermath"
  • BTS is unsourced. Additional things like publication dates and artist information would be nice.
  • Articles need to be referenced by individual comic issue, not story arc. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:00, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
• Second Duel in the Iron Citadel
  • The intro needs to be rewritten to avoid referring to this duel by a proper noun, since its name is conjectural.
  • The BTS explains that the depiction of this duel from the TOR video incorrectly shows it taking place outside the citadel. If that's the case, I don't understand the rationale for using the video as the infobox image.
  • Not all of the BBY dates are referenced correctly
  • Redirects
  • Missing archive links
  • BTS unsourced. Publication date for first comic issue appearance would be nice.
  • Articles need to be sourced completely by individual comic issue, not story arc
  • Reference 9 needs to use TOR citation template. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:40, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
• Shoaneb Culu
  • Digitize all comic images
  • BBY dates are not referenced correctly
  • Redirects
  • The first body image isn't placed well, probably a relic of Monobook. Avoid indenting the next subsection header.
  • Just a lot of general underlinking
  • It would be appropriate to populate an Equipment section to detail her starfighter and any personal weaponry
  • BTS is unsourced. Additional things like comic illustrator and date for first comic issue appearance would be nice.
  • Appearances and referencing need to list and reference by individual comic issues, not story arcs.
  • Remove "Possible indirect mention" item from Sources list. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 23:40, July 19, 2019 (UTC)
• A-3DO
  • Digitize all comic images
  • No BBY dates in the article. Certainly some could be introduced?
  • General underlinking throughout
  • Infobox-exclusive information
  • Hard to believe another image couldn't be found for the first subsection
  • This like author, illustrator credit and publication dates in the BTS would be nice.
  • A little better description would be nice for the "Ambria" subsection title and the two image thumbnail captions. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:05, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
• Battle of Koros Major
  • Digitize comic image.
  • Infobox-exclusive information. Most significantly the BBY date.
  • General underlinking throughout
  • Single-item bullet points unnecessary in infobox
  • Article layout needs to match Layout Guide battle format
  • "The battle" section looks like it could be split up into at least two subsections, which would allow for additional quotes and/or images if available
  • BTS not fully sourced. Publication date for first comic appearance would be nice.
  • Format StarWars.com Databank entry correctly. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:05, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
• Thannor Keth
  • Light and Shadow doesn't mention any BBY dates. The referencing for that item will need something more.
  • BBY date exclusive to infobox
  • Redlink
  • General underlinking throughout
  • BTS not fully sourced and should be revised to specify Legends with regard to canon mention
  • Refs 2 and 3 need Citeweb or some kind of citation template. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:05, July 20, 2019 (UTC)

The Sith Empire has returned

• Meeting responsibilities. Tommy Macaroni 17:08, July 14, 2019 (UTC)
• Membership discussion. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 00:05, July 20, 2019 (UTC)

Attendance

Conquerors

1. Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:20, July 14, 2019 (UTC)
2. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:46, July 16, 2019 (UTC)
3. Should be good. 1358 ^(Talk) 09:59, July 19, 2019 (UTC)

Conquered

1. Working weekends. Notes are below. Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:23, July 14, 2019 (UTC)
2. Almost certainly will be unable to attend. Notes incoming. Imperators II^(Talk) 08:51, July 14, 2019 (UTC)
3. Honestly not sure. I'm at a gathering (note: not a party :P) so I may be able to attend on my phone. In case not though, notes below. Tommy Macaroni 21:35, July 19, 2019 (UTC)

Final resting place of the Dark Lords

SE

• Kill the old stuff, probe all the new. For anything else, Tope has my vote. Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:23, July 14, 2019 (UTC)

Imp

• Kill the old articles, probe anything new. Support Tommy's proposal and give him my vote on anything else. If he's not present, my vote goes to Mr. Tope. Imperators II^(Talk) 14:33, July 15, 2019 (UTC)

Tommy

• Kill: All old
• Probe: All new
• Support Tope's meeting responsibilities proposal.
• Anything else ecks has my vote. Tommy Macaroni 21:35, July 19, 2019 (UTC)

Minutes

Attendance

• Exiledjedi
• Tommy-Macaroni
• Toprawa and Ralltiir
• Xd1358

Articles stripped of FA status

• Kam Nale
• Duel in the Korriban Academy
• Niai Fieso
• Sirak
• Dannl Faytonni/Legends
• Janus Greejatus/Legends
• Faro Argyus
• Decimator (war machine)
• BesGas Three
• Aarrba

Articles placed on probation

• Odile Vaiken
• Battle of Kessel (0 ABY)
• Braha'tok-class gunship/Legends
• First Duel in the Iron Citadel
• Raid on the Iziz Royal Palace
• Second Duel in the Iron Citadel
• Shoaneb Culu
• A-3DO
• Battle of Koros Major
• Thannor Keth

Notes

• The following rule was ratified for post-meeting paperwork and meeting-scheduling duties: Per Inqmoot 105, paperwork and meeting scheduling are assigned to one Inquisitorius member at the conclusion of each meeting. Both duties must be completed within one week after the last meeting. Failure to complete the meeting duties will result in a strike against the offending Inquisitorius member. After accumulating two strikes, the member will be placed on membership probation, with potential removal from the Inquisitorius upon a third strike. Each individual strike will expire three years after it was given.
• Supreme Emperor does paperwork
• Log